+ 2"L + 1"G (1 year progress thread)

[oldandlively]

You've reached your sweetspot, brother.

 

[DLD]

You've reached your sweetspot, brother.

Yes, he has hitting 9 inches. Was probably my most favorite gain. I ever made after that. It was kind of just a habit where I got to 11 inches, but it all started when I hit 9, because I thought it was impossible to hit 9 inches as I was stuck at 8 and a 1/2 inches for so long. Congratulations on this wonderful issue. I'm so glad you have reach this point.And it must give you a whole lot of confidence

 

[MickeyDeese]

Yes, he has hitting 9 inches. Was probably my most favorite gain. I ever made after that. It was kind of just a habit where I got to 11 inches, but it all started when I hit 9, because I thought it was impossible to hit 9 inches as I was stuck at 8 and a 1/2 inches for so long. Congratulations on this wonderful issue. I'm so glad you have reach this point.And it must give you a whole lot of confidence

Its awesome. I've been at 9" flaccid stretch for about 2 weeks now. Because the one week decon I just did I probably won't see another gain for about a week to a week and a half. They typically happen in 2mm increments. My goal is 9" erect. 9 inch flaccid stretch is still cool and a big motivator to keep going. Just 2 1/2 months ago I was at 8 4". Frankly, gains happen so imperceptibly slow that if I wasn't tracking daily and taking monthly pics I would have given up long ago. Also, different rulers give different measurements. I use the metal yellow one because it is unforgiving and doesn't lie. That fucker hurts to press into your fat pad, but I know the measurement i get will be exceptionally accurate. Where as the clear plastic one I have adds about 1/3" which i use for quick confidence boosts lol.

 

[9.5inchpro]

Its awesome. I've been at 9" flaccid stretch for about 2 weeks now. Because the one week decon I just did I probably won't see another gain for about a week to a week and a half. They typically happen in 2mm increments. My goal is 9" erect. Flaccid stretch is still cool and a big motivator to keep going. Just 2 1/2 months ago I was at 8 4". Frankly, gains happen so imperceptibly slow that if I wasn't tracking daily and taking monthly pics I would have given up long ago. Also, different rulers give different measurements. I use the metal yellow one because it is unforgiving and doesn't lie. That fucker hurts to press into your fat pad, but I know the measurement i get will be exceptionally accurate. Where as the clear plastic one I have adds about 1/3" which i use for quick confidence boosts lol.

good job hitting that 9inch mark

 

[MickeyDeese]

good job hitting that 9inch mark

thanks, pro. You're a beast. Hope you break through to that ruler dick. Fairly certain I will plateau hard around 9.4 bpel. That would be my 3" mark. Low weight, low pressure, lots of time, is working for me currently though.

 

[DLD]

Its awesome. I've been at 9" flaccid stretch for about 2 weeks now. Because the one week decon I just did I probably won't see another gain for about a week to a week and a half. They typically happen in 2mm increments. My goal is 9" erect. 9 inch flaccid stretch is still cool and a big motivator to keep going. Just 2 1/2 months ago I was at 8 4". Frankly, gains happen so imperceptibly slow that if I wasn't tracking daily and taking monthly pics I would have given up long ago. Also, different rulers give different measurements. I use the metal yellow one because it is unforgiving and doesn't lie. That fucker hurts to press into your fat pad, but I know the measurement i get will be exceptionally accurate. Where as the clear plastic one I have adds about 1/3" which i use for quick confidence boosts lol.

Being at 9 inches, flaccid stretched means you. Will you can get to that erect? Nine inches within a month maybe two. I also got the same type of ruler. Because other ruler is were inaccurate. Adding almost to quarter inch to your size. I don't want fake measurements.I want accurate measurements. So keep up the good work and it in a couple of months, you will be there.

 

[MickeyDeese]

Hit 23.2cm yesterday. Thats + 0.2 cm per week. Still gaining.

Mentally I'm hitting a wall. The repetition and ridiculous amount of time I'm spending doing this. I'm tired. Why keep at it? Is it worth it?

I need some motivation.

 

[oldandlively]

Here's a thought to motivation for you:

Squirt squirt *moan* squirt squirt *moan* squirt squirt *pass out*

 

[9.5inchpro]

Hit 23.2cm yesterday. Thats + 0.2 cm per week. Still gaining.

Mentally I'm hitting a wall. The repetition and ridiculous amount of time I'm spending doing this. I'm tired. Why keep at it? Is it worth it?

I need some motivation.

How much time are you spending doing pe?

 

[DLD]

Why would you question i'm getting in or getting out when he's just made a very good gain. It doesn't have to be boring. You can listen to music while you're doing it. Or anything else that will help you stay away in the game. Also over time, you will not be so bored with what you were doing once you know that it's working

 

[MickeyDeese]

How much time are you spending doing pe?

Sometimes an hour and a half, sometimes 3 hours... Usually 2 hours length work every single day. With an additional 30 minutes dedicated to girth work every 2nd or 3rd day. It changes depending on my focus at the time.

This isn't counting the passive stuff I do such as wear a loose cock ring or ads for several hours after each exercise, or the various supplements I take every day.

 

[MickeyDeese]

I've consistently been hitting between +4% and +5% from pre workout bpsfl and ppst workout bpsfl. That seems to be my sweet spot. Its typically the difference of about 1 cm. For instance for the last week I've been consistently measuring 22 cm pre workout, post workout I've been hitting either 23 cm (+4.4%) or 23.2 cm (+5.3%). Give it a week or two and I will be at pre 22.2 cm and post 23.4 cm. If I haven't grown after two weeks I know I'm starting a plateau and something needs to change. When this happens I will typically incorporate 15 minutes daily with the length master for a week to push through to a new growth phase. It happens maybe once every 3 months. I still haven't figured out a way to comfortably wrap with foreskin that won't give me edema. Because repeated foreskin edema causes the foreskin to grow (reference Roberto Cabrera) I don't use the lengthmaster as much as I would like.

 

[DLD]

I've consistently been hitting between +4% and +5% from pre workout bpsfl and ppst workout bpsfl. That seems to be my sweet spot. Its typically the difference of about 1 cm. For instance for the last week I've been consistently measuring 22 cm pre workout, post workout I've been hitting either 23 cm (+4.4%) or 23.2 cm (+5.3%). Give it a week or two and I will be at pre 22.2 cm and post 23.4 cm. If I haven't grown after two weeks I know I'm starting a plateau and something needs to change. When this happens I will typically incorporate 15 minutes daily with the length master for a week to push through to a new growth phase. It happens maybe once every 3 months. I still haven't figured out a way to comfortably wrap with foreskin that won't give me edema. Because repeated foreskin edema causes the foreskin to grow (reference Roberto Cabrera) I don't use the lengthmaster as much as I would like.

The lengthmaster is it the fastest way to break through a plateau? So I suggest you use it more often. And make it a permanent part of your routine to continue growing. Why wait for a plateau to use it? I'm very pleased with your growth. It's very rapid, so I hope you get through this plateau. Let's start gaining again

 

[MickeyDeese]

I only use the length master as an as needed boost to maximize stretching. I have never had any issues with hanging, extending, pumping, using sleeves, vacuum cups, or clamps. With the length master though, I have experienced bleeding urethra, a minor frenulum tear, and major foreskin edema. It works, but it makes me pay in blood. Which is why I only use it sparingly.

Supplements are key in gaining imo. I have been using Ai to really dial in my daily supplement cocktail and have been averaging +0.15 cm per week for the last 46 weeks.

I have been taking The daily recommended dose on the label of:
Vitamin D, Magnesium, Boron, vitamin C, Zinc, Omega 3, Collagen type 1 & 3, L-Glutamine, L-Citrulline, BCAA, CoQ10, Kre-Alkalyne, Tribulus Terrestris (1 month on 2 months off), Tongkat Ali, Gotu Kola (Centella Asiatica/Asiaticoside), Ashwagandha, and Maca root... and apply Asiaticocide cream (La Roche Baume B5 has the highest OTC potency) once per week.

Ask Chat GPT or another Ai to explain how each may affect or improve your PE gains.

 

[huge-girth]

I only use the length master as an as needed boost to maximize stretching. I have never had any issues with hanging, extending, pumping, using sleeves, vacuum cups, or clamps. With the length master though, I have experienced bleeding urethra, a minor frenulum tear, and major foreskin edema. It works, but it makes me pay in blood. Which is why I only use it sparingly.

Supplements are key in gaining imo. I have been using Ai to really dial in my daily supplement cocktail and have been averaging +0.15 cm per week for the last 46 weeks.

I have been taking The daily recommended dose on the label of:
Vitamin D, Magnesium, Boron, vitamin C, Zinc, Omega 3, Collagen type 1 & 3, L-Glutamine, L-Citrulline, BCAA, CoQ10, Kre-Alkalyne, Tribulus Terrestris (1 month on 2 months off), Tongkat Ali, Gotu Kola (Centella Asiatica/Asiaticoside), Ashwagandha, and Maca root... and apply Asiaticocide cream (La Roche Baume B5 has the highest OTC potency) once per week.

Ask Chat GPT or another Ai to explain how each may affect or improve your PE gains.

Most times, the reason for bleeding from the Urethra is because, you didn't squeeze out the blood from the glans into the penis shaft. If there is too much blood trapped in the glans while attaching the length master, bleeding might happen.

You want to make sure that, there is no semi erection while attaching the length master. You must be completely flaccid.

As for the foreskin edema, your session is lasting for too long. Try breaking the time spent per session into 2 sessions.

 

[MickeyDeese]

Most times, the reason for bleeding from the Urethra is because, you didn't squeeze out the blood from the glans into the penis shaft. If there is too much blood trapped in the glans while attaching the length master, bleeding might happen.

You want to make sure that, there is no semi erection while attaching the length master. You must be completely flaccid.

As for the foreskin edema, your session is lasting for too long. Try breaking the time spent per session into 2 sessions.

Appreciated but the reason for bleeding is because I exert far too much force. I'm used to power lifting and strength training. If there is blood in my glans it is because of the blood in my foreskin, not that I haven't squeezed my glans or clamped a compression device on while semi erect. The Urethra bleeding has happened about 5 times because of micro tears in the urethra in 2 places which I could feel scabs within days after. One just below the glans, the other lower in the shaft about 1/4 from the base. Neither caused by blood in the glans but from applying far too much stretch, or possibly blood within the foreskin which could not be expelled. I also only do about 15 minutes maximum per session and because of my foreskin won't break it down into segments as it takes a few minutes each time to wrap and re-wrap. When there are far more easier to set up and much safer devices out there I will only be using the length master when absolutely needed. It is not a device built for guys with foreskin.

 

[huge-girth]

Appreciated but the reason for bleeding is because I exert far too much force. I'm used to power lifting and strength training. If there is blood in my glans it is because of the blood in my foreskin, not that I haven't squeezed my glans or clamped a compression device on while semi erect. The Urethra bleeding has happened about 5 times because of micro tears in the urethra in 2 places which I could feel scabs within days after. One just below the glans, the other lower in the shaft about 1/4 from the base. Neither caused by blood in the glans but from applying far too much stretch, or possibly blood within the foreskin which could not be expelled. I also only do about 15 minutes maximum per session and because of my foreskin won't break it down into segments as it takes a few minutes each time to wrap and re-wrap. When there are far more easier to set up and much safer devices out there I will only be using the length master when absolutely needed. It is not a device built for guys with foreskin.

Yes, I just remembered now that, Sim had same problem. He used to bleed whenever he used too much force. I never bled all through the time I used the length master and I believe it is because I didn't use that type of force.

Use that force for the DLD blasters with the length master. That exercise targets the mid shaft and the base of the penis.

 

[huge-girth]

Appreciated but the reason for bleeding is because I exert far too much force. I'm used to power lifting and strength training. If there is blood in my glans it is because of the blood in my foreskin, not that I haven't squeezed my glans or clamped a compression device on while semi erect. The Urethra bleeding has happened about 5 times because of micro tears in the urethra in 2 places which I could feel scabs within days after. One just below the glans, the other lower in the shaft about 1/4 from the base. Neither caused by blood in the glans but from applying far too much stretch, or possibly blood within the foreskin which could not be expelled. I also only do about 15 minutes maximum per session and because of my foreskin won't break it down into segments as it takes a few minutes each time to wrap and re-wrap. When there are far more easier to set up and much safer devices out there I will only be using the length master when absolutely needed. It is not a device built for guys with foreskin.

Just in case you no longer need the length master, please you can give me.

 

[DLD]

Just in case you no longer need the length master, please you can give me.

 

[trustr1]

Sorry to say that and don't want to sound sceptical or negative though
I have not seen yet a single measurement picture proof for neither girth or length.
All length measurement pics are cut and can't see clearly the measurement taken correctly.
Girth I didn't see at all.
You say the progress is slow altough you made tramendously unbelievable fast gains.
I havn't gain 1mm length or girth in the whole last 12months or more.

 

[huge-girth]

Sorry to say that and don't want to sound sceptical or negative though
I have not seen yet a single measurement picture proof for neither girth or length.
All length measurement pics are cut and can't see clearly the measurement taken correctly.
Girth I didn't see at all.
You say the progress is slow altough you made tramendously unbelievable fast gains.
I havn't gain 1mm length or girth in the whole last 12months or more.

What device are you using to train? Are you cut or uncut?

 

[trustr1]

What device are you using to train? Are you cut or uncut?

Cut
To be more accurate
Didn't gain bpel since apr 24, and girth since dec 24.

May - jun 24: LM + sili ads
Jul 24: high traction extender + hand streches.
Jul - Aug 24: LM + HIGH traction extender
Sep - Oct 24: extender only
Nov 24: extender + LM
Dec 24: LM only + phallosan ads
Jan-may 25: Phallosan forte ads (8-11 hours a day) + high traction extender ("best extender") 1 hour daily.
Jun - Jul 25: high traction extender (Phallosan Plus) 5-6 hours a day.

Didn't have bpfsl increase either for last 4-6 month (before I just didn't measure).

For girth since last gain (dec 24):
Jan 25: srt 5x5x3 variations with BM + soft clamping
Feb-april 25: Python clamping (40-60min) alone or combined with BM pumping

Last month air interval pumping 1 hour daily up to 10-11inHG.

In contrast to length, with girth work i do see good post expension.

Took some month decon here and there for length or girth.

 

[huge-girth]

Cut
To be more accurate
Didn't gain bpel since apr 24, and girth since dec 24.

May - jun 24: LM + sili ads
Jul 24: high traction extender + hand streches.
Jul - Aug 24: LM + HIGH traction extender
Sep - Oct 24: extender only
Nov 24: extender + LM
Dec 24: LM only + phallosan ads
Jan-may 25: Phallosan forte ads (8-11 hours a day) + high traction extender ("best extender") 1 hour daily.
Jun - Jul 25: high traction extender (Phallosan Plus) 5-6 hours a day.

Didn't have bpfsl increase either for last 4-6 month (before I just didn't measure).

For girth since last gain (dec 24):
Jan 25: srt 5x5x3 variations with BM + soft clamping
Feb-april 25: Python clamping (40-60min) alone or combined with BM pumping

Last month air interval pumping 1 hour daily up to 10-11inHG.

In contrast to length, with girth work i do see good post expension.

Took some month decon here and there for length or girth.

Can you please apply for my coaching service? Let's work together. I swear to God, you will gain if you use my coaching service. I've sent you a PM please respond to it.

 

[DLD]

Can you please apply for my coaching service? Let's work together. I swear to God, you will gain if you use my coaching service. I've sent you a PM please respond to it.

No better way to make growth. Then the sign up for his coaching program. I know that everyone I worked with 1 on 1 went on to make great growth before they came to me. And now, huge girth has taken that role and is doing an incredible job.

 

[trustr1]

No better way to make growth. Then the sign up for his coaching program. I know that everyone I worked with 1 on 1 went on to make great growth before they came to me. And now, huge girth has taken that role and is doing an incredible job.

Subscribed already. But now I even more optimistic

 

[DLD]

Subscribed already. But now I even more optimistic

I promise you, my brother.You're in good hands. Huge girth is the best coach available

 

[MickeyDeese]

Progress post: no pics today. Not in the mood to fuck with a camera while shoving a ruler into my pelvis and hold my D.

Had an unexpected guest stay with us for a week which resulted in an unplanned 6 day deconditioning. Gains weren't as strong because of the 2 weeks off I've had in the last 5.

Been seeing some unexpected results with erect hanging at 5 to 10 lbs. Difficulty is maintaining an erection for 2 hours straight of hang time lol. Erotic writing > pron. Also progressive loading every 30 minutes followed by a final hour drop set has shown best post results.

Current Bpsfl: ~23.4 cm (probably 23.3 but I only use even numbers)
Current Bpel: easy 21.2 cm without trying

11 months in, 1 month left before my 1st year is complete. I dont think I'm going to hit that 24 cm bpsfl goal, but it will be close enough imo.

 

[MickeyDeese]

I have been getting this question A LOT lately. These are supplements I use daily according to the recommended dose on the label, mostly for gym purposes, but know that they also enhance PE gains at the cellular level. If you plan on doing supplements keep in mind you absolutely must drink a gallon of water daily and that it will take at least 1 to 2 months of taking supplements daily for your body to even begin to respond, but if you maintain a daily supplement intake long term the benefits are vast:

Vitamin B
Vitamin C
Vitamin D
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron
Omega 3
Quercetin
Resveratrol
Collagen 1 & 3
L-Citrulline
L-Glutamine
Maca Root
Ashwagandha (1 month on 2 months off)
Gotu Kola (asiaticocide)
Tribulus Terrestris or Tongkat Ali (1 month on 2 months off cycle)

Optional (I use these for actual gym purposes but they greatly affect cellular health):
BCAA
Kre-Alkalyne

Apply La Roche Baume B5 cream 3 times a week post work out. This cream has the highest concentration of Asiaticoside.

If you have any questions regarding specific supplements ask chatgpt for a break down, "How would taking a daily supplement of Gotu Kola (Asiaticoside) improve my PE gains?"

 

[BlackStealth23]

Side Note: Be cautious with Ashwagandha, as some studies suggest it may cause liver and or kidney damage. If you take it, it's beneficial to cycle it and have blood work done regularly to monitor your liver enzymes & eGFR.

 

[oldandlively]

Side Note: Be cautious with Ashwagandha, as some studies suggest it may cause liver and or kidney damage. If you take it, it's beneficial to cycle it and have blood work done regularly to monitor your liver enzymes & eGFR.

Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. Ashwagandha can be used properly, but it's required to flushed out of the system continuously. Just like everything, be proteins, B12, C, D3, whatever you're taking, too much of something beneficial will accumulate in terms of bioaccumulation. When that happens, your liver and kidneys will not have sufficient capacity to flush out as waste. Too high an accumulation can kill you.

 

[MickeyDeese]

Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. Ashwagandha can be used properly, but it's required to flushed out of the system continuously. Just like everything, be proteins, B12, C, D3, whatever you're taking, too much of something beneficial will accumulate in terms of bioaccumulation. When that happens, your liver and kidneys will not have sufficient capacity to flush out as waste. Too high an accumulation can kill you.

I never exceed the recommended dose of anything I use and drink a minimum of 1 gallon of water every day. Thats two 64oz water jugs. Staying hydrated is a priority when taking supplements.

 

[MickeyDeese]

Currently 4 hours in on a 3x over progressive load low weight marathon hang session, between 2.5 and 5 pounds. Testing how much % increase between base and post work out, if any, increased time may have. I can typically hit +5% (from 22.2 cm to 23.4 cm) after 2 hours progressive loading between 2.5 to 5 lbs. I will be amazed if I can get above 23.4 cm. 2 hours left to go on this session.

 

[barnyowl]

22 hours a day was pretty much my schedule

Hey DLD, you must have been doing your normal routine, combined with using a silistrecher all day long ? is that right ?

 

[MickeyDeese]

Well hole-ee sheet... hit 23.7 cm (9.3 in) bpsfl... now to dial in exactly how much time it takes to hit that measurement. 3 hours? 4 hours? 5? Or the whole 6? Cause... I'm willing to do 4 on the days I wfh. 6 hours today was pushing the limits of boredom.

 

[oldandlively]

Well hole-ee sheet... hit 23.7 cm (9.3 in)... now to dial in exactly how much time it takes to hit that measurement. 3 hours? 4 hours? 5? Or the whole 6? Cause... I'm willing to do 4 on the days I wfh. 6 hours today was pushing the limits of boredom.

Fine tune between 3 to 5 hours. The penile tissues will change based on your body's overall stress loads. Heavy stresses mean you need to crank it back down. If your body is optimized, crank it up. 6 hours may be needed.

 

[barnyowl]

Well hole-ee sheet... hit 23.7 cm (9.3 in)... now to dial in exactly how much time it takes to hit that measurement. 3 hours? 4 hours? 5? Or the whole 6? Cause... I'm willing to do 4 on the days I wfh. 6 hours today was pushing the limits of boredom.

This thread is inspiring me to level up my routine. I been doing 40 minutes a day with lenghtmaster, gains have been very very very slow. I might do 3 hours a day with lenghtmaster to see if anything changes.

Consider yourself lucky to grow that much in this period of time.... but maybe your putting in way more hours than the average PE guy on here.

I've only grown 1.7 inches in less than a year. August would be a complete year for me. Started this journey Aug 2024.

 

[MickeyDeese]

I've only grown 1.7 inches in less than a year. August would be a complete year for me. Started this journey Aug 2024.

Brother, 1.7 in under a year is amazing. From what I've seen, especially on R3ddit, most guys aim for 0.5 to 1 inch in a year and celebrate.

 

[MickeyDeese]

Fine tune between 3 to 5 hours. The penile tissues will change based on your body's overall stress loads. Heavy stresses mean you need to crank it back down. If your body is optimized, crank it up. 6 hours may be needed.

That was the progressive loading. Started at 2.5 lbs for 30, then 3.75 lbs for 45, then 5 lbs for 45. Then start back at 2.5 lbs and repeat two more sets for the 6 hour total.

 

[barnyowl]

That was the progressive loading. Started at 2.5 lbs for 30, then 3.75 lbs for 45, then 5 lbs for 45. Then start back at 2.5 lbs and repeat two more sets for the 6 hour total.

Thx Curious, what's your non bone pressed length? And have you noticed your flacid size increased as well ?


I ask because it seems my erect size has grown, but my flacid size hasn't really much grown.

 

[DLD]

Hey DLD, you must have been doing your normal routine, combined with using a silistrecher all day long ? is that right ?

No I spent my first 6 years messing. Around with creating new exercises in routines. After I hit a plateau at around nine inches, I was not able to gain any longer so I developed a very hardcore routine that turned out to be what most brothers are using today, which I call SRT. I used that for fifteen years with no modification, the only thing I changed was time and Intensity. Over the first ten years, I gained about two inches in length and one and a half inches of girth. In my first six years, I gain two inches in length and another half inch of girth. Then on and off again through the last few years, i've stuck with SRT.

 

[barnyowl]

No I spent my first 6 years messing. Around with creating new exercises in routines. After I hit a plateau at around nine inches, I was not able to gain any longer so I developed a very hardcore routine that turned out to be what most brothers are using today, which I call SRT. I used that for fifteen years with no modification, the only thing I changed was time and Intensity. Over the first ten years, I gained about two inches in length and one and a half inches of girth. In my first six years, I gain two inches in length and another half inch of girth. Then on and off again through the last few years, i've stuck with SRT.

I see, I see. Thanks for sharing

 

[oldandlively]

That was the progressive loading. Started at 2.5 lbs for 30, then 3.75 lbs for 45, then 5 lbs for 45. Then start back at 2.5 lbs and repeat two more sets for the 6 hour total.

So many brothers don't use this method and they go straight to the super heavy weights and fully relaxed. I'm glad to see a brother with a great mind to use the progressive approach, backed up by medical and biological sciences.

 

[barnyowl]

@oldandlively Hope all is well man! Curious — which routine would you recommend for quicker growth?

Three hours of LM3 spread throughout the day ? or one hour of LM3 combined with 2-4 hours of ADS (passive traction device) daily?

 

[oldandlively]

@oldandlively Hope all is well man! Curious — which routine would you recommend for quicker growth?

Three hours of LM3 spread throughout the day ? or one hour of LM3 combined with 2-4 hours of ADS (passive traction device) daily?

Good to see you're active with post again, brother. It's depending on where you are in the journey, knowing how hard to attack the growth. From all the old posts I've recalled from you, I can suggest a form of an attack if you like. Remember, this is just a recommendation and not a full evaluation of all your logs or what you've been doing without reporting. I only have a scatter log of your info.

So, based on your past routines, let's play with the following:

1. Warm up. You already know your tissue needs. Warm up as much as you need, with heat and/or light stretches.
2. Use the LM3 with a 5-min light exercises, switch up to 10 minutes of bundling moderate to high tension load, back to 10-minute of moderate tension load. In between each set, keep the tissues warm, or hot.
3. ADS should be a 4-hour interval. This is me, but I prefer giving the tissues plenty of in-place stretch time. In the entire scheme of thing, 4 hours is not much at all.
4. If you can provide one stretch routine in the morning or noon, and one stretch at night, even better. For night time, Instead of going moderate and high tension pulling, just light to moderate tension pulling. This is just to give the tissues a good stretch before relaxation. This mirrors the 4lbs, 15lbs, 6lbs, 1.5lbs traction loading throughout the day for PE journeymen that already have at least 1 year of PE behind them, assuming they already have precondition period before hand.

I'm currently working with the brothers at the age group between 55 to 65. They already gain at least 0.5in in the past 9 months using similar approach. Instead of the LM3, they are using extenders, weights, and self-made traction devices. If those works, imagine what you can do with LM3.

But do know that ADS must maintain at the 2.5lbs of traction level. Don't let it drops below too far or rise too high. Your tissues can't handle the higher stress loads for too long of a period. This is based on cell structure integrity loading at 1kg.

 

[barnyowl]

Good to see you're active with post again, brother. It's depending on where you are in the journey, knowing how hard to attack the growth. From all the old posts I've recalled from you, I can suggest a form of an attack if you like. Remember, this is just a recommendation and not a full evaluation of all your logs or what you've been doing without reporting. I only have a scatter log of your info.

So, based on your past routines, let's play with the following:

1. Warm up. You already know your tissue needs. Warm up as much as you need, with heat and/or light stretches.
2. Use the LM3 with a 5-min light exercises, switch up to 10 minutes of bundling moderate to high tension load, back to 10-minute of moderate tension load. In between each set, keep the tissues warm, or hot.
3. ADS should be a 4-hour interval. This is me, but I prefer giving the tissues plenty of in-place stretch time. In the entire scheme of thing, 4 hours is not much at all.
4. If you can provide one stretch routine in the morning or noon, and one stretch at night, even better. For night time, Instead of going moderate and high tension pulling, just light to moderate tension pulling. This is just to give the tissues a good stretch before relaxation. This mirrors the 4lbs, 15lbs, 6lbs, 1.5lbs traction loading throughout the day for PE journeymen that already have at least 1 year of PE behind them, assuming they already have precondition period before hand.

I'm currently working with the brothers at the age group between 55 to 65. They already gain at least 0.5in in the past 9 months using similar approach. Instead of the LM3, they are using extenders, weights, and self-made traction devices. If those works, imagine what you can do with LM3.

But do know that ADS must maintain at the 2.5lbs of traction level. Don't let it drops below too far or rise too high. Your tissues can't handle the higher stress loads for too long of a period. This is based on cell structure integrity loading at 1kg.

Thanks for writing this up oldandlively, I appreciate it.

I remember you posted somewhere, that an lm3 can achieve what a traction device can achieve in 20-40 minutes, instead of 4 hours. Something about the ADS taking hours to kick in, the glans being broken down.

I saw that post, and thought to myself..... what would happen if I used the lm3 for 2 hours.

So that's why I thought I asked, thanks again for sharing.

 

[oldandlively]

Thanks for writing this up oldandlively, I appreciate it.

I remember you posted somewhere, that an lm3 can achieve what a traction device can achieve in 20-40 minutes, instead of 4 hours. Something about the ADS taking hours to kick in, the glans being broken down.

That is correct. Rather than somewhere, it's practically everywhere. LM3 traction loading is 5 to 10 times the amount of traction force any ADS and Extender system can provide at max spring tension. I have extender with 11lbs (original, now around 7lbs) spring sets. I still have a new set of those springs that go up to 15lbs. But the extender can only create a dynamic traction loading effectiveness after at least 2 hours under tension.

Using the LM3, you're already putting the same amount of traction loading using your arms. Rather than just placing the traction loading in a linear fashion like an extender or stretcher, you can put contortional stretches to break down the tissues even faster. Contortional stretches is the bundling, where you twist your penis up to break down the tissues surrounding the tunica and the septum, the tough fibrous tissues that cause your penis not to lengthen with just extender usage. 10 minutes on the LM3 is practically 1 hour on the extender at full tension loads. 20 minutes on the LM3 is equivalent to 2 hours. Once you hit the 30 to 40 minutes marks, it's no longer 6 to 8 hours but 10 to 14 hours. It's slightly more than linear and less than exponential tissue fatigue. We can go into bio-mechanical fatigue if you like, but I'll leave it there.

I saw that post, and thought to myself..... what would happen if I used the lm3 for 2 hours.

If you do the LM3 for 2 hours a day, that's placing your fatigue zone into the 16 to 18 hour of fatigue zone. But at the same time, you have to ask yourself, what's the amount of traction loading you're putting your penis through. This is why we always say to "measure your traction force" based on the amount of free/hanging/scale weights to just get into the ball park of measurement. Then create a traction/weight log for every 3 to 4 weeks. This will tell us where yo are in the whole scheme of traction loading and effective growth. Our brother @9.5inchpro is practically at 40lbs dynamic loading using his LM3. How do we know this? He's reach internal tissue tears even after year of extreme pulling with very thick tunica and septum tissue resistance. To tear internal tissues, he has to reach between 35 to 45lbs of pure pulling and twisting (not free weight hanging).

So that's why I thought I asked, thanks again for sharing.

For now, think of this mode for the gain attacks. At the same time, find a way to measure your pulling load. It can be a hanging scale (fish scale or SiliScale), free hanging weights, or just by pure pulling intuition you've developed from lifting weights or hauling weights.

 

[barnyowl]

Using the LM3, you're already putting the same amount of traction loading using your arms. Rather than just placing the traction loading in a linear fashion like an extender or stretcher, you can put contortional stretches to break down the tissues even faster. Contortional stretches is the bundling, where you twist your penis up to break down the tissues surrounding the tunica and the septum, the tough fibrous tissues that cause your penis not to lengthen with just extender usage. 10 minutes on the LM3 is practically 1 hour on the extender at full tension loads. 20 minutes on the LM3 is equivalent to 2 hours. Once you hit the 30 to 40 minutes marks, it's no longer 6 to 8 hours but 10 to 14 hours. It's slightly more than linear and less than exponential tissue fatigue. We can go into bio-mechanical fatigue if you like, but I'll leave it there.

Thanks for breaking it down .

If you do the LM3 for 2 hours a day, that's placing your fatigue zone into the 16 to 18 hour of fatigue zone. But at the same time, you have to ask yourself, what's the amount of traction loading you're putting your penis through. This is why we always say to "measure your traction force" based on the amount of free/hanging/scale weights to just get into the ball park of measurement. Then create a traction/weight log for every 3 to 4 weeks. This will tell us where yo are in the whole scheme of traction loading and effective growth. Our brother @9.5inchpro is practically at 40lbs dynamic loading using his LM3. How do we know this? He's reach internal tissue tears even after year of extreme pulling with very thick tunica and septum tissue resistance. To tear internal tissues, he has to reach between 35 to 45lbs of pure pulling and twisting (not free weight hanging)

When you talk about 35 - 45 lbs, are you assuming that the LM3 is being used with an added weight on it ?

The LM3 comes with a hook that you can attach weight. So when you talk about this scenario, are you assuming the person is doing contortional stretches, and, has added weight attached on the hook ?

I have only been doing contortional stretches since I had the lm3. So adding weight along with doing contortional stretches will add more intensity to the workout right ?

 

[oldandlively]

When you talk about 35 - 45 lbs, are you assuming that the LM3 is being used with an added weight on it ?

No. Think of the 35-45lbs of mechanical offset weight. The best comparison is the BowFlex equivalent bow tension vs free weight hang tension. When you use your arms, you're generating a more gentle mechanical tension compared to the gravity hanging tension (or use in a pulley combination). Your arms can easily create a dynamic range of tension of 0lb to 100lbs on demand, where your free weight is static as is. You are constantly in control of the traction tension you need. No extra weight required to be hung on the LM3, unless you want to use the LM3 strapping plates for hanging purposes. That works too.

The LM3 comes with a hook that you can attach weight. So when you talk about this scenario, are you assuming the person is doing contortional stretches, and, has added weight attached on the hook ?

Correct. The LM3 strapping plates that has the polystrap is meant for hanging purposes. It's a loop to hold onto the weight hook for the plate system. Or, you can use that poly strap to hook onto a pulley system for an overhead hang (penis point upwards,hand-free). KingSnake started this, and a few other brothers, including myself, use pulley system while we're laying on the bed for straight down pulling using free weights.

I have only been doing contortional stretches since I had the lm3. So adding weight along with doing contortional stretches will add more intensity to the workout right ?

If you're doing contortional stretches while using hanging weights, the weight will be constantly static. What does that mean? It means, you're will be subjected to constant weight until you change out your weight. There is no dynamic range of weight unless you pull the weight up to ease up the tension. Is it good? Yes, if it's only for a 3 to 5 minutes period, less than 10lbs. No, if you're planning to hang for too long (more than 5 minutes) more than 10lbs. Your glans is subjected to intense fluid pressure (head pressure) which can cause bloody blisters.

 

[barnyowl]

No. Think of the 35-45lbs of mechanical offset weight. The best comparison is the BowFlex equivalent bow tension vs free weight hang tension. When you use your arms, you're generating a more gentle mechanical tension compared to the gravity hanging tension (or use in a pulley combination). Your arms can easily create a dynamic range of tension of 0lb to 100lbs on demand, where your free weight is static as is. You are constantly in control of the traction tension you need. No extra weight required to be hung on the LM3, unless you want to use the LM3 strapping plates for hanging purposes. That works too.

Ahh I see.

Correct. The LM3 strapping plates that has the polystrap is meant for hanging purposes. It's a loop to hold onto the weight hook for the plate system. Or, you can use that poly strap to hook onto a pulley system for an overhead hang (penis point upwards,hand-free). KingSnake started this, and a few other brothers, including myself, use pulley system while we're laying on the bed for straight down pulling using free weights.

Ahhh I see. That makes sense.

If you're doing contortional stretches while using hanging weights, the weight will be constantly static. What does that mean? It means, you're will be subjected to constant weight until you change out your weight. There is no dynamic range of weight unless you pull the weight up to ease up the tension. Is it good? Yes, if it's only for a 3 to 5 minutes period, less than 10lbs. No, if you're planning to hang for too long (more than 5 minutes) more than 10lbs. Your glans is subjected to intense fluid pressure (head pressure) which can cause bloody blisters.

Hmmmm.... interesting, sounds painful. I saw some post on here about a guy bleeding everytime he uses the lm3. I never had that issue, but that makes me question, maybe im not twisting hard enough lol

 

[barnyowl]

Here's a thought to motivation for you:

Squirt squirt *moan* squirt squirt *moan* squirt squirt *pass out*

Thought this was a adult entertainment thing.... I didn't think size mattered in terms of a woman squirting. I thought it was more about a mental stimulation thing on there end.