All that driving you should be doing lazy ass stretches!
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All that driving you should be doing lazy ass stretches!
The Next Big Thing
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Man this log is something else! I love how you go into detail every session describing your thoughts.
Also congratulations on 8 inches, thats absolutely amazing that you have reached that. Is that like 2 inch gain? What is your current erect length by the way?
In the earlier post I noticed you mentioned that wet jelqs and SSJ gave you fluid buildup but then you incorporated them again in your routine. Why is that?
Also what I really like is that you divide your daily session into 3 small sessions. It looks really good because you dont overwork your penis. In the past when I used to do also girth work I sometimes did too much in one session and my EQ suffered for days.
It makes me think if in PE in general, frequency/volume beats intensity...
Also congratulations on 8 inches, thats absolutely amazing that you have reached that. Is that like 2 inch gain? What is your current erect length by the way?
In the earlier post I noticed you mentioned that wet jelqs and SSJ gave you fluid buildup but then you incorporated them again in your routine. Why is that?
Also what I really like is that you divide your daily session into 3 small sessions. It looks really good because you dont overwork your penis. In the past when I used to do also girth work I sometimes did too much in one session and my EQ suffered for days.
It makes me think if in PE in general, frequency/volume beats intensity...
I completely and absolutely agree. I also know that when people have very organized progress threads I’m able to help them so much easier. When people have a progress thread that is messy and you can’t understand it’s impossible to get good advice.
I started at 6-1/4" BPFSL and have hit 8" BPFSL so ~1-3/4"of Flacid stretch gain. My erect length went from 6-1/8"-7-1/8" over that same time. I was at BPFSL of 7-3/4" with BPEL of 6-1/2" when I discovered Filmfreak progress thread and I started making erect stretches, and getting my erect length closer to my BPFSL, the emphasis of my program. Since then my erect gains came rather quickly.
I started getting a lot of fluid build up when I was doing clamping AND jelqs. I was trying to find out if clamping alone was the real culprit behind the thrombosis/fluid retention issues. I tried out the wet JELQs again because I wanted to see if JELQ by themselves would be an efficient exercise. I like them in theory because you don't have to restimulate to higher EQ all the time which becomes very tiresome and often entails the use of some sort of nude images.
I really like doing the multiple sessions per day. @DLD recommends somewhere on this forum that you should have your go to main program and then a shortened version of your main routine. This was great advice and allows you to greatly increase your training volume Also, the multiple session per day approach allows you to fully hit all the elements of SRT.
Moreover, as you said, it really helps to keep you from overtraining. Sometimes when it comes time for the mid day or afternoon routine you will know you shouldn't do it because it would be too much. If you did just one big long session you might not notice the signs of overtraining and cause yourself a setback. Now that's not to say I don't overtrain. I overtrained a lot and it's a big regret. Dealing with this thrombosis stuff has been a pain in the ass (it flared back up recently after a romp with the wife ?)
I agree with your statement about frequency > intensity. I work in the fitness world and it's true there as well. One of my most used phrases I use with students is, "Consistency over Intensity." Rome wasn't built in a day. It takes small focused/mindful efforts over large time periods to transform the human body.
With that said, I think a big part of any training endeavor whether that's wanting to deadlift 400lbs or grow your penis an inch is the concept of knowing your body and moving your consciousness into your body because many people will take the consistency over intensity mantra and start to go through the motions. Their mind and awareness won't be in their body/workout and they are basically wasting time. You need to be able to be honest with yourself and put in sufficient levels of mindful intensity on a consistent basis to make lifelong physique changes.
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5/23/20 Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/24/20 Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/25/20 Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/26/20 Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/27/20 Bundled Stretch (2x2min), Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/29/20 Maintenance Routine:
-Bundled Stretch 4x2min (straight up x2, Left, Right)
-Erect Stretch 5min total (3:30 straight out, 1:30 down)
-Testicle Massage and Stretch
Notes: I haven't had any privacy in my current travel housing. I'm curious to see what my measurements are when I get back home. I have noticed stronger EQ since I've taken this little break. When I was doing erect stretches today I was able to stay erect for much longer than when I was training more seriously.
5/24/20 Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/25/20 Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/26/20 Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/27/20 Bundled Stretch (2x2min), Testicle Massage and Stretch
5/29/20 Maintenance Routine:
-Bundled Stretch 4x2min (straight up x2, Left, Right)
-Erect Stretch 5min total (3:30 straight out, 1:30 down)
-Testicle Massage and Stretch
Notes: I haven't had any privacy in my current travel housing. I'm curious to see what my measurements are when I get back home. I have noticed stronger EQ since I've taken this little break. When I was doing erect stretches today I was able to stay erect for much longer than when I was training more seriously.
It just dawned on me seeing your thread I wonder how much size somebody could gain just by using the testicle health massage and stretch. In my opinion it’s one of the most intense stretches and I think it would be a formidable length routine if anyone was up to taking that challenge
Penis Growth Story:
My wife and I have been ordering condoms on amazon for several years now and for a while we used these ones called Lelo Hex. Back then, they fit me decently; they definitely weren't snug and I wasn't unrolling the whole thing on my shaft. Since I started the PE thing we had been using a different condom but then recently we ran out of those and I found an old box of the Lelo Hex. We used one last night and the thing was way tighter and I am now unrolling the whole thing onto the shaft. Moreover, with this condom in the past, after we had both finished it would also sometimes come off me and stay in her. Not so this time. This time it was stuck on me and i had to work to peel it off.
I had recently been having some doubts about whether or not I had really grown. I thought Maybe I was measuring poorly when I first started and really nothing had changed. But this experience last night was a great empirical proof of these methods. My dick is bigger.
New Training Block:
I drove back home over the weekend and yesterday had my first day back at work since this whole coronavirus thing started. My wife is also working from home until she gets the results of her covid test back(she had to take a test after our trip before returning to work). Due to the lack of privacy I've just been sneaking in little mini routines when I can.
Yesterday (6/1) I measured myself after the 2 week break to see where I was at and what I had lost over the break.
BPFSL: 8"
EL: 6-7/8"
MSEG: >4-5/8"
So my BPFSL remained unchanged (probably because of the Testicle Stretch I did during the break). EL dropped a quarter of an inch but also my EQ wasn't very high so maybe it only dropped 1/8" or not at all. Girth was the same.
6/1/20 Morning Quick Hitter:
-Bundled BTC stretch 4x2min (2xR, 2xL)
-Erect Stretch 1x1min
Evening Lazy Session:
~30min of Supine Bed BTC stretches
6/2/20 Morning Expressive Session:
-Bundled Stretch 2x2min straight up
-Total Package Stretch 1x3min
-Low Shaft Expressive Stretch 2x2min
-BTC Stretches 2x1min in each direction
-Wrap Up for SRT healing
Notes: My BPFSL jumped to 8-1/8" after this quick session. I'm considering this the start of a new 3 month block of training and the goal is to get the BPFSL to >8-1/2" and EL of 7-1/2". My plan is to start out at low intensity with the newbie routine and erect stretches as the main portion of the length routine and really track BPFSL to see if this intensity will continue to give me gains.
My wife and I have been ordering condoms on amazon for several years now and for a while we used these ones called Lelo Hex. Back then, they fit me decently; they definitely weren't snug and I wasn't unrolling the whole thing on my shaft. Since I started the PE thing we had been using a different condom but then recently we ran out of those and I found an old box of the Lelo Hex. We used one last night and the thing was way tighter and I am now unrolling the whole thing onto the shaft. Moreover, with this condom in the past, after we had both finished it would also sometimes come off me and stay in her. Not so this time. This time it was stuck on me and i had to work to peel it off.
I had recently been having some doubts about whether or not I had really grown. I thought Maybe I was measuring poorly when I first started and really nothing had changed. But this experience last night was a great empirical proof of these methods. My dick is bigger.
New Training Block:
I drove back home over the weekend and yesterday had my first day back at work since this whole coronavirus thing started. My wife is also working from home until she gets the results of her covid test back(she had to take a test after our trip before returning to work). Due to the lack of privacy I've just been sneaking in little mini routines when I can.
Yesterday (6/1) I measured myself after the 2 week break to see where I was at and what I had lost over the break.
BPFSL: 8"
EL: 6-7/8"
MSEG: >4-5/8"
So my BPFSL remained unchanged (probably because of the Testicle Stretch I did during the break). EL dropped a quarter of an inch but also my EQ wasn't very high so maybe it only dropped 1/8" or not at all. Girth was the same.
6/1/20 Morning Quick Hitter:
-Bundled BTC stretch 4x2min (2xR, 2xL)
-Erect Stretch 1x1min
Evening Lazy Session:
~30min of Supine Bed BTC stretches
6/2/20 Morning Expressive Session:
-Bundled Stretch 2x2min straight up
-Total Package Stretch 1x3min
-Low Shaft Expressive Stretch 2x2min
-BTC Stretches 2x1min in each direction
-Wrap Up for SRT healing
Notes: My BPFSL jumped to 8-1/8" after this quick session. I'm considering this the start of a new 3 month block of training and the goal is to get the BPFSL to >8-1/2" and EL of 7-1/2". My plan is to start out at low intensity with the newbie routine and erect stretches as the main portion of the length routine and really track BPFSL to see if this intensity will continue to give me gains.
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A-Spot Spammer
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I’m sure the enforced decon break will allow you to realise some solid gains when you’re back into the swing of things! It’s great that you’re BPFSL was maintained. It’s surely a sign of good things to come in terms of bpel gains!
That’s what I’m thinking. I’m gonna write a routine that is based on this theory. I think I will do the testing myself so I can get a good idea of how intense this may be. If anyone wants to join me, please do as I believe that this will be a very good all around exercise for a very simple routine.
I’ll have to really think about it I may modify the actual exercise a bit to be more conducive to what I want to accomplish which is a single routine for both length and girth.
Yesterday afternoon I was able to get in a couple quick sessions and finish out the rest of the newbie routine. In the evening, after the wife fell asleep I got a 30 minute or so long erect stretch oriented freestyle session in bed. Finished with the testicle massage and stretch. Just getting in what I can, when I can.
6/3/20 Morning Erect Session:
I woke up early this morning with a strong erection. The wife was sleeping in so I just laid in bed and did a bunch of:
-erect stretches
-size blasters
-SSJs
-newbie stretches
Note: No timers or nothing. Just stretched and focused on quality stretches. With the wife laying there it was great motivation for good training and helped me stay more erect without adult entertainment.
Noon Session:
-Bundled Stretch 4x1min upward angles
-Total Package Stretch 3x1min
-Total Package Rotary Stretch 50 cranks
-BTC Stretch 6x1min all 3 positions
-Wrap Up
Notes: Pre-BPFSL 8-1/8" Post BPFSL 8-3/8". I hadn't seen anyone mention total package rotary cranks on here and I'm sure I'm not the first to do them but the total package rotary cranks were very intense. I thought of them in the moment and they were an effective expressive stretch.
6/3/20 Morning Erect Session:
I woke up early this morning with a strong erection. The wife was sleeping in so I just laid in bed and did a bunch of:
-erect stretches
-size blasters
-SSJs
-newbie stretches
Note: No timers or nothing. Just stretched and focused on quality stretches. With the wife laying there it was great motivation for good training and helped me stay more erect without adult entertainment.
Noon Session:
-Bundled Stretch 4x1min upward angles
-Total Package Stretch 3x1min
-Total Package Rotary Stretch 50 cranks
-BTC Stretch 6x1min all 3 positions
-Wrap Up
Notes: Pre-BPFSL 8-1/8" Post BPFSL 8-3/8". I hadn't seen anyone mention total package rotary cranks on here and I'm sure I'm not the first to do them but the total package rotary cranks were very intense. I thought of them in the moment and they were an effective expressive stretch.
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I like that you’re not timing things, I got in the habit of not timing sessions and my routines went so much better when I wasn’t so obsessed with the time. I was able to focus on the actual technique instead of looking at the clock.
I’m a big fan of full package stretching and pumping so I think rotary stretches of the whole package will be very effective in an expressive way and in a normalgaining way.
The Next Big Thing
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I have a really difficult time with full package stretching. I cannot grip my whole package around and when I squeeze too hard it hurts my balls.
It takes some practice. But what I do is get one good grip and pull gently to get everything extended then with the other hand I grab further in toward the base(further from the balls) and stretch from here. It's less pressure on the balls this way. Low Shaft grip expressive stretch works great as well.
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6/3/20 Afternoon Quick Hitter:
-Bundled Stretch 3x90sec upward angles
-Total Package Stretch 1x3min, 1x90sec
-Total Package Cranks 50 reps
-BTC 3x2min all angles
Notes: Got 8-3/8" (+1/4") BPFSL from this quick routine. I'm really getting the feel for the expressive stretches and I think I'm going to be grabbing some gains from them in the near future.
-Bundled Stretch 3x90sec upward angles
-Total Package Stretch 1x3min, 1x90sec
-Total Package Cranks 50 reps
-BTC 3x2min all angles
Notes: Got 8-3/8" (+1/4") BPFSL from this quick routine. I'm really getting the feel for the expressive stretches and I think I'm going to be grabbing some gains from them in the near future.
6/4/20:
The wife had to stay home from work again so today I've just been sneaking stuff in here and there during bathroom breaks. My suspensory ligs are sore from all the BTC stretching I've been doing. I'll try to get testicle health massage and stretch and some other stuff after bedtime.
-Bundled Stretch ~6sets total
-Total Package Stretch and Crank 5min 50 cranks
-Low Shaft Grip Expressive Stretches 6min total
-BTC Stretches 3x1min
-Side Stretches 4sets
Notes: I've been really enjoying the expressive stretches. It feels good to do them and it's exciting to see how much extra length there is to be had. I've been experimenting with pulling in different angles and planes with them and noting the sensations you get with different angles. Today I started using a sort of Mandingo style grip with the low shaft stretch and was getting very good stretches; Including what seemed like a direct stretch of the suspensatory ligs in one straight out angle
@DLD how much expressive stretching is too much? I like the idea of focusing some days(weeks?) heavily on expressive stretching And occasionally making it the main emphasis of the program. It seems like a way you can keep training while letting the tunica or ligs decondition/recover. It also seems like a good spot to grab quick gains. What are your thoughts on higher volume expressive stretching?
The wife had to stay home from work again so today I've just been sneaking stuff in here and there during bathroom breaks. My suspensory ligs are sore from all the BTC stretching I've been doing. I'll try to get testicle health massage and stretch and some other stuff after bedtime.
-Bundled Stretch ~6sets total
-Total Package Stretch and Crank 5min 50 cranks
-Low Shaft Grip Expressive Stretches 6min total
-BTC Stretches 3x1min
-Side Stretches 4sets
Notes: I've been really enjoying the expressive stretches. It feels good to do them and it's exciting to see how much extra length there is to be had. I've been experimenting with pulling in different angles and planes with them and noting the sensations you get with different angles. Today I started using a sort of Mandingo style grip with the low shaft stretch and was getting very good stretches; Including what seemed like a direct stretch of the suspensatory ligs in one straight out angle
@DLD how much expressive stretching is too much? I like the idea of focusing some days(weeks?) heavily on expressive stretching And occasionally making it the main emphasis of the program. It seems like a way you can keep training while letting the tunica or ligs decondition/recover. It also seems like a good spot to grab quick gains. What are your thoughts on higher volume expressive stretching?