Shockwave therapy for PE?

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What is known as Gainswave. It's main purpose is for ED but that jackhammering the penis does a lot of micro-tears and stimulate the creation of new tissues.

The therapy is very expensive $500 the pop and requires 6-12 sessions to significantly heal ED in severe cases.

However, I think there is great potential in the technology for PE. Therefore, I bought a KmsLaser SW5S device.

Here is the review of my first session:

Here are the parameters that I have used:
Head diameter: 15 mm convex
Freq: 14Hz
Energy: 90 mJ
1000 impacts x3 (left side and right side and underside where the Corpus spongiosum is)
500 x2 (left and right crus)

I did follow the SW treatment with a 3o minutes pump session at low pressure (5.5 In. Hg)

Impression: It felt like some sort of swedish massage for the penis. I was expecting the experience to be almost painful but it wasn't. I was curious to send waves on my glans but it did turn out to not be such a great idea. Not painful but not pleasant neither. Since I haven't read anywhere that you could get any benefits from hitting the glans, I'll probably remove this option out of the list of experiments that could be done.

It almost made me wonder if that would anything at all and if I shouldn't try to crank up the intensity a little bit. but I'll give some time and only change something if I don't get any improvements. The only thing that I might add is a 1000 hits fourth pass on the top of my shaft.

One question that I have is that being a device owner, what should be the best usage pattern for the device. I guess that if I went see an urologist, I would only got at max one treatment per year with their $500 price but with having a machine at home, sky is the limit but you don't want to overdo neither. I think that I'll do 12 weekly sessions and take a 3 months break and alternate the on/off on a 3 month basis...

After 1 session, this has certainly made my penis girthier while flaccid.

Another thing that I want to try out the device because I have freaking hard septum is to put tension in it with hanging and send shockwaves in it as it is under tension to induce micro-tears in my septum...

It could be interesting experiments. I will keep you updated.
 
This topic has been touched already. There is certainly potential with shockwave therapy. However, by itself I have my doubts.
As I have stated before, I believe if you combine shockwave plus p-shots and stem cell therapy together plus the use of proven chemicals such as PGE-1, there could be significant difference. Shockwave and p-shot you can do them at home. Stem cell is a more sporadic treatment and not easy to do at home.

One advise from me, be careful with experimenting. If you have that machine and dont know about the structures of the penis, type of tissues, how tissues repair, the repair process itself, dont mess with it. Putting shockwave in your glans for example has no practical use for PE neither erectile dysfunction. I have no idea what made you think about that. Shockwave in the glans I could only see it as some sort of fetish which in my opinion would be irresponsible and dangerous.

With that being said, there is another more effective method being used and developed by other more "dark side of the force" group of guys. It is certainly something that I wanna add to my routine and is called Ultrasound therapy. It is a procedure already proven and being used in horses to heal and enlarge their leg tendons. This has enormous potential in the septum.

To really take advantage of your shockwave machine, get familiar with the specifications of the medical treatment itself. Then replicate exactly the same at home. No need to experiment. What they do at the clinic is exactly what is proven to work. The advantage of having it at home is that gives you unlimited sessions.

Perhaps would be a good investment to get just one clinical session to learn exactly the way it is done and then investigate the technical specifications about the treatment.
 
don't forget that I got the p-shot few weeks ago.

I, of course did some research on the topic. I'm not playing with the device willy-nilly without knowing what I do. The used parameters are practically what is used for gainswave.

There is a blog and a forum for DIY shockwaves therapy documenting gainswave parameters to reuse them in a DIY context. I'm not feeling like burning $500 at a urologist clinic for something that I can now do at home in 10 minutes.

Also things that won't never be given and simply just not researched are things that urologists would never do in clinics.

Don't forget that shockwave treatment does stimulate tissue regeneration/increase vascularization in penis. This is why it is beneficial for ED. tissue generation + increase vascularization in the glans might not be beneficial in a ED treatment context but it could be in a PE context. And there is even videos on Youtube of doctors sending shockwaves on the glans.

My rule of thumb is if it is not painful, it is probably ok. Who knows if the SW treatment isn't more potent if received while erect? I have hard time seeing a female urologist stimulating a patient to give him an erection before the treatment. This will never happen in a clinic even if it turns out to be more efficient that way. This is something that the DIY SW group members have tried.

Also, you have to realize that the device is far from being dangerous. It is only a miniature jackhammer. The high price tag in the device must be linked to the precision in the energy and frequency in the given impacts. The best analogy that I can give about the sensation, it is as if you are tapping on your penis with a fingertip. tap-tap-tap-tap and so on...

The only contraindication is to not hit your nuts with it and this isn't something that could have crossed my mind...

It is not the first time that you mention ultrasonic. Do you have reference about that being used for PE?
 
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If you have been researching about the sound wave settings then forget my comment about it as well as doing a clinical session. No point then.

As far as doing shockwave therapy during an erection, yes it is possible to do it in a clinical setting, no need for a nurse making you hard. A doctor can just inject PGE-1 to induce an erection and then after the therapy can use a kill shot to kill the erection. For sure they will have a lot of regulations and safety measures to do something like that. It would be a matter of weighing the benefits with the costs. If there is research an data about shockwave during an erection then it would be good for us to try lol

About ultrasound being used for PE, yes plenty. It has been already dialed down to the specific settings on the machine, and which machine should used since Ultrasound has its risks. If you put the ultrasound in your chest for example and target your heart, you can literally kill yourself instantly. Therefore that power is being used with the right settings to target there septum. I wont post links publicly because they belong to other PE sites in which I am not a member, but it is possible to read the threads as anonymous.
 
DLD said:
You guys are so scientific and I am so basic. LOL
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Yeah because you already achieved a majestic cock!! LOL
You can just sit in the couch now and watch the rest.
We on the other hand are investigating multiple ways to get there (loudlycrying) (loudlycrying)
 
Jackxxx said:
Yeah because you already achieved a majestic cock!! LOL
You can just sit in the couch now and watch the rest.
We on the other hand are investigating multiple ways to get there (loudlycrying) (loudlycrying)
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LOL, I’m just playing I really enjoy the work you guys are doing. But yeah I don’t have to do too much PE any longer LOL the only PEI really do is inventing exercises and creating devices.
 
I got myself a Hms Digisonic-2s. I should receive it next week. My understanding of US is heating the septum while you are hanging. I haven't hang for probably the last 3 weeks. I still let my frenulum heal from the tear it got. I'm about to retrieve the frenulum I had when I was virgin. It should be good for hanging again when I get my US device. It is not that expensive BTW, I got it for about $350...
 
lano1106 said:
I got myself a Hms Digisonic-2s. I should receive it next week. My understanding of US is heating the septum while you are hanging. I haven't hang for probably the last 3 weeks. I still let my frenulum heal from the tear it got. I'm about to retrieve the frenulum I had when I was virgin. It should be good for hanging again when I get my US device. It is not that expensive BTW, I got it for about $350...
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Look forward to your review and hope you make some great progress!
 
I am not sure of these things on shockwave therapy device:
1) How often to use it
2) Should I use blue plastic heads or not?
3) Which head to use?
4) What should be frequency settings?
5) What should be Intensity settings?
6) How many ticks for penis?
7) In which regions of penis should it be applied?
I really have no idea and I can’t seem to find a specific guide also. Any tips?
 
At this point I am really awaiting for feedback and solid results from people using this route of US. I was very interested already gathering information to acquire one of these devices but I stopped.

I stopped because there is no scientific proof that US therapy can actually enlarge tendons, ligaments, connective tissue etc. All the scientific proof is in healing and stretching, BUT that stretch is ONLY to regain its original stretching capabilities after an injury in the case of horses and humans where is being used. So far, I have not seen scientific evidence nor solid experience from anybody on the internet starting with a normal healthy septum and being abler to make it grow in size thanks to US. I am sure it might give a little bit. It might increase some length, but I hardly believe this will be permanent. But that is just my guess. Again, I go in this regard by what is currently scientifically available.

If these group of people trying US can report within this year some solid evidence of septum growth, FUCK YEAH I will buy one IMMEDIATELY.

The Septum has stopped me dead on tracks for PE. I could hang the empire state building from my cock and this shit wont give up an inch. Fucking selfish arrogant septum.
 
Jackxxx said:
At this point I am really awaiting for feedback and solid results from people using this route of US. I was very interested already gathering information to acquire one of these devices but I stopped.

I stopped because there is no scientific proof that US therapy can actually enlarge tendons, ligaments, connective tissue etc. All the scientific proof is in healing and stretching, BUT that stretch is ONLY to regain its original stretching capabilities after an injury in the case of horses and humans where is being used. So far, I have not seen scientific evidence nor solid experience from anybody on the internet starting with a normal healthy septum and being abler to make it grow in size thanks to US. I am sure it might give a little bit. It might increase some length, but I hardly believe this will be permanent. But that is just my guess. Again, I go in this regard by what is currently scientifically available.

If these group of people trying US can report within this year some solid evidence of septum growth, FUCK YEAH I will buy one IMMEDIATELY.

The Septum has stopped me dead on tracks for PE. I could hang the empire state building from my cock and this shit wont give up an inch. Fucking selfish arrogant septum.
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Same here we have been looking at some of these things and trying to get our heads around it. The proof is in the pudding as they say and if it’s something that is profitable to the brotherhood we can expect lightning to make it happen at a fraction of the cost.
 
Well, I might be wrong, but I think the so called Gainswave or shock wave therapy, is completely different from UltraSound. They are both sound waves, but I think they target different tissue for different purposes. In the case of US the sound waves penetrate a certain depth in order to heat the tissue and expand it. In this case, the septum. Just like it is being used in hoses legs to heal their ligaments, and it is being used in medicine too as part of therapy to recover tendons and ligaments.

In the case of Gainswave is a different setting of soundwaves developed specifically to enhance and restore EQ. It is intended to break plaque buildup in the blood vessels and restore blood flow, as well as growing new blood vessels. In this case, all these characteristis of gaisnwave are scientifically proven and FDA cleared. just for that reason I would acquire a device. Although my biggest quest is to find the way to enlarge the septum. That is the theory with the UltraSound, but thats still up for debate and proof.
 
US for cancer raises temp, so it's cooking cancer to 105F fever. US, or a microwave, or satellite laser, or 5G cell app, might have to cook p to weakness to permit gains by subsequent stretching...but how to say when p is cooked enough with the DIY garage US?

I also did a lot of tunica twisting for heavy hanging, no change.

Asian method sounds like rip the septum loose by hanging 150 pounds once in a lifetime by a silk bandanna in a girth hitch. They promise pain. Not for me either. Same guys who plank on a broken bottle, hang hundreds of pounds, but I can't plank on a broken bottle.

So I guess I found my "septum", years ago. I went up by half pound to 47 pounds, hanging for 20 minute sets, got all I could get. Moved on to manual, until p exploded from too much fully erect straight back and sit on it. After a year, went back to hanging weight, heavy with tunica twist, then "whole empire state building" without twist, but haven't seen gains. Now hanging "whole the empire state building", still stuck but escalating sets for a few days by ten times more. Skin is going to be the limiter, but I can probably go to 100x more since I learned how to avoid bruising.
 
Gainswave sounds cutting edge. I'm reading on sunlight, color, frequencies for healing and enhancement, though that could only be a base for stretching. Rife targeted bad things to kill them, now the idea in light-sound-electric frequency methods is to optimize system, kind of like the rest of the world's medicine vs us(old). It's not all FDA-approved, nor MD certified, at the edge. I have declined to put stuff on my head.
 
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pnoewbe said:
US for cancer raises temp, so it's cooking cancer to 105F fever. US, or a microwave, or satellite laser, or 5G cell app, might have to cook p to weakness to permit gains by subsequent stretching...but how to say when p is cooked enough with the DIY garage US?

I also did a lot of tunica twisting for heavy hanging, no change.

Asian method sounds like rip the septum loose by hanging 150 pounds once in a lifetime by a silk bandanna in a girth hitch. They promise pain. Not for me either. Same guys who plank on a broken bottle, hang hundreds of pounds, but I can't plank on a broken bottle.

So I guess I found my "septum", years ago. I went up by half pound to 47 pounds, hanging for 20 minute sets, got all I could get. Moved on to manual, until p exploded from too much fully erect straight back and sit on it. After a year, went back to hanging weight, heavy with tunica twist, then "whole empire state building" without twist, but haven't seen gains. Now hanging "whole the empire state building", still stuck but escalating sets for a few days by ten times more. Skin is going to be the limiter, but I can probably go to 100x more since I learned how to avoid bruising.
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Please use clear words so we all understand. By P you mean Penis? Cock? Dick? In the case of when the dick is "cooked" enough, all that data is scientifically available and it is being applied by those experimenting with US for PE. The machine settings for specific depth, temperature and termometer used is all known already. The only question mark is if this technology will yield to the results theoretically expected. So far no breaking news about it.

Asian method whatever those chinky do doesnt work. At least I am not aware of any study showing Asian guys with 10 inch dicks after applying the "Asian method" nor guys here reporting radical gains applying the chinky shit.
 
Hello I recently received 1...20min session with gainzwave. At $600.00 a pop...just wanted to try for my own edification. The results are great....I've noticed vein growth and there is a significant difference in amout of weight to my cock and balls...and he did do my testicles too....much weightier and skin seems to be thicker...im just impressed by the vein growth along the sides of sides of CC....definitely will get another session and perhaps do some peptides as well as per budget. The doc tried to convince me to get the package deal but its a little out of my budget right now. Im also intrested in the Pripus shot...which I may do in the spring in mean time continuing PEgym One other thing noticed much greater volume and opacity in my ejaculate load as well as greater pleasure.? Keep you posted brothers!??????
 
lano1106 said:
What is known as Gainswave. It's main purpose is for ED but that jackhammering the penis does a lot of micro-tears and stimulate the creation of new tissues.

The therapy is very expensive $500 the pop and requires 6-12 sessions to significantly heal ED in severe cases.

However, I think there is great potential in the technology for PE. Therefore, I bought a KmsLaser SW5S device.

Here is the review of my first session:

Here are the parameters that I have used:
Head diameter: 15 mm convex
Freq: 14Hz
Energy: 90 mJ
1000 impacts x3 (left side and right side and underside where the Corpus spongiosum is)
500 x2 (left and right crus)

I did follow the SW treatment with a 3o minutes pump session at low pressure (5.5 In. Hg)

Impression: It felt like some sort of swedish massage for the penis. I was expecting the experience to be almost painful but it wasn't. I was curious to send waves on my glans but it did turn out to not be such a great idea. Not painful but not pleasant neither. Since I haven't read anywhere that you could get any benefits from hitting the glans, I'll probably remove this option out of the list of experiments that could be done.

It almost made me wonder if that would anything at all and if I shouldn't try to crank up the intensity a little bit. but I'll give some time and only change something if I don't get any improvements. The only thing that I might add is a 1000 hits fourth pass on the top of my shaft.

One question that I have is that being a device owner, what should be the best usage pattern for the device. I guess that if I went see an urologist, I would only got at max one treatment per year with their $500 price but with having a machine at home, sky is the limit but you don't want to overdo neither. I think that I'll do 12 weekly sessions and take a 3 months break and alternate the on/off on a 3 month basis...

After 1 session, this has certainly made my penis girthier while flaccid.

Another thing that I want to try out the device because I have freaking hard septum is to put tension in it with hanging and send shockwaves in it as it is under tension to induce micro-tears in my septum...

It could be interesting experiments. I will keep you updated.
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Unfortunately, we cannot tell if this worked for this member or not because he has been away since 2019. I wonder if this worked for anyone.
 
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