New 20k PE device

kriskros said:
Shockwave therapy is being used in andrologist Institutes to help with ED and blood vessel problems.
To me, based on their info, they agree that the methodology of bundled stretches and MOSRED before girth routine is the right approach for max results. At least this is what i understood.
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Correct. Medical fields are studying penile enhancement under mechanical processes are being more relevant and popular. We had a massive laughter with my old retired professors about this, but his old department has a few master and PhD students doing the studies now. I'm not sure when the publication will be released, but I'm stoked. By the way, the shockwave (LIST) is one of the studies. This is why it got me interested a few years ago.
 
oldandlively said:
Correct. Medical fields are studying penile enhancement under mechanical processes are being more relevant and popular. We had a massive laughter with my old retired professors about this, but his old department has a few master and PhD students doing the studies now. I'm not sure when the publication will be released, but I'm stoked. By the way, the shockwave (LIST) is one of the studies. This is why it got me interested a few years ago.
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Don't know if it's similar but I used DLD Plyometric Stretch when I was stretching with LengthMaster 3. The best way to describe the interesy so everyone will understand the level, is that I tried to pull my penis from my body. I do not even are joking.

Some days I had maximum elongation after only 10 minutes, and was forced to end my session.
This means + ~2 cm of flaccid stretched length after session.

It was supposed to be 10 min x 2 times.

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squirt_inducer_man said:
Don't know if it's similar but I used DLD Plyometric Stretch when I was stretching with LengthMaster 3. The best way to describe the interesy so everyone will understand the level, is that I tried to pull my penis from my body. I do not even are joking.

Some days I had maximum elongation after only 10 minutes, and was forced to end my session.
This means + ~2 cm of flaccid stretched length after session.

It was supposed to be 10 min x 2 times.

*Edit: Added a little bit of information.
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Wow I made that exercise over 18 years ago
 
oldandlively said:
This is why I'm very interested in the results. I already figured out the mechanics behind the devices, as well as the biological influences by the mechanics for the growth. However, no one posted the journey for this device and the post-results after 1 year. What the device does is exactly what the brothers are doing. We're focusing on more manual approaches over the automation side of the devices. The only unique feature of this is the addition of the LIST (low intensity sound therapy) added to the routine. It's a very pricey module.
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Maybe something like this

DP-4000 DIGITAL MAXIMIZER

The C.T.C. Digi-Pump with its Digital Maximizer interface is our most advanced penis enlargement system. it will put total control in the users hands and is only limited by your imagination. With it l...
ctc-company.com ctc-company.com

With some type of vibrating cock ring?
 
DLD said:
No other system can deliver this. I worked on SRT for many years to produce the growth it brings. I am not against new methods just saying make sure it is legit. If someone who has found a wonderful piece of equipment that works as well I will invest in it to bring to our awesome store
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DLD said:
Wow I made that exercise over 18 years ago
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And I was growing like weed with it. Thank you for that.
 
92tmorgan said:
Maybe something like this

DP-4000 DIGITAL MAXIMIZER

The C.T.C. Digi-Pump with its Digital Maximizer interface is our most advanced penis enlargement system. it will put total control in the users hands and is only limited by your imagination. With it l...
ctc-company.com ctc-company.com

With some type of vibrating cock ring?
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Something similar. Too many in the market nowadays. Hard to keep track which has proper functionality vs effectiveness.
 
92tmorgan said:
Supposedly this has been around for some years and a couple guys swear by it
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A couple swear by it vs a group is a bit discouraging. It may work for 1 out of doze users. But question is always the "consistent gains" vs "an outlier gain". If there's more than one gain out of every 5, that's a success.
 
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oldandlively said:
A couple swear by it vs a group is a bit discouraging. It may work for 1 out of doze users. But question is always the "consistent gains" vs "an outlier gain". If there's more than one gain out of every 5, that's a success.
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I just meant program the dp 4000 for interval pumping just like the 20k device used.
Coped with some type of vibration device and boom there you have your 20k pump for around 500$
 
92tmorgan said:
I just meant program the dp 4000 for interval pumping just like the 20k device used.
Coped with some type of vibration device and boom there you have your 20k pump for around 500$
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However, the pressure must maintain a consistent cycle of 15 to 20 inHg of vacuum pressure every 10 to 15 seconds, quick release of 3 to 5 seconds, and continue for the next 15 to 20 minutes without overheating. I saw these in the manufacturing plants I seen them operating 8 hours a day, but those things are huge to prevent thermal breakdown. Not sure how long these will last. There are no internal schematics so I can't much about them.
 
oldandlively said:
However, the pressure must maintain a consistent cycle of 15 to 20 inHg of vacuum pressure every 10 to 15 seconds, quick release of 3 to 5 seconds, and continue for the next 15 to 20 minutes without overheating. I saw these in the manufacturing plants I seen them operating 8 hours a day, but those things are huge to prevent thermal breakdown. Not sure how long these will last. There are no internal schematics so I can't much about them.
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The max on the phalbac device is 17Hg. Was watching a video on a guy review of it and he’s been using it daily for 3 years.

 

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oldandlively said:
However, the pressure must maintain a consistent cycle of 15 to 20 inHg of vacuum pressure every 10 to 15 seconds, quick release of 3 to 5 seconds, and continue for the next 15 to 20 minutes without overheating.
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Having your penis in that vaccum pressure are the next level.
 
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squirt_inducer_man said:
Having your penis in that vaccum pressure are the next level.
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I already tried in the 16 inHG for the BM and paid the 1.3 weeks price. I reduced it to 12inHg and achieved it with no issue. I'm creeping up to 13inHg in a week or two from now. I can achieve 13inHg without any issue for 20 seconds, but I can feel the extreme expansion, as if a nuclear bomb is about to blow up internally. The moment I even sense that feeling, pressure is immediately release back down to 10 within 5 seconds. Never allow the pressure to just expel within a second or two. This is too fast of a decompression. Same as releasing at any pressure above 5inHg. Slow it down to a 5 second release interval. This is to stabilize the internal pressure.

92tmorgan said:
The max on the phalbac device is 17Hg. Was watching a video on a guy review of it and he’s been using it daily for 3 years.

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For the 17inHg, it's air so it's not as bad as water. You use water and, oh mother of pain, you will suffer sudden implosion. Air is much more forgiving. The vacuum tugging is actually around 8.3lbs of constant tugging. This mirrors the old method of swinging the weigh in a pendulum theory to yank on the internal tissues. I've done this as well back in 2005. That was not safe as the weights became rockets the moment they slipped. I'm still looking for similar system with good internal pumps. Most pumps I've read the schematic on is based on aquarium 650 gallons/hour type. Not enough. You need pneumatic type pumps designed for high pressure delivery system, something like AC servicing pumps at 2 to 3 cubic feet per minute.
 
oldandlively said:
I already tried in the 16 inHG for the BM and paid the 1.3 weeks price. I reduced it to 12inHg and achieved it with no issue. I'm creeping up to 13inHg in a week or two from now. I can achieve 13inHg without any issue for 20 seconds, but I can feel the extreme expansion, as if a nuclear bomb is about to blow up internally. The moment I even sense that feeling, pressure is immediately release back down to 10 within 5 seconds. Never allow the pressure to just expel within a second or two. This is too fast of a decompression. Same as releasing at any pressure above 5inHg. Slow it down to a 5 second release interval. This is to stabilize the internal pressure.


For the 17inHg, it's air so it's not as bad as water. You use water and, oh mother of pain, you will suffer sudden implosion. Air is much more forgiving. The vacuum tugging is actually around 8.3lbs of constant tugging. This mirrors the old method of swinging the weigh in a pendulum theory to yank on the internal tissues. I've done this as well back in 2005. That was not safe as the weights became rockets the moment they slipped. I'm still looking for similar system with good internal pumps. Most pumps I've read the schematic on is based on aquarium 650 gallons/hour type. Not enough. You need pneumatic type pumps designed for high pressure delivery system, something like AC servicing pumps at 2 to 3 cubic feet per minute.
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Good argument
 
I showed the video with this device to a friend of mine who's scientist and he told me that probably its the Low-intensity shockwave therapy (LI-ESWT) that does the trick. Low-intensity shockwave therapy (LI-ESWT) is a non-invasive treatment for ED that involves delivering acoustic waves to the penis. LI-ESWT has been shown to promote angiogenesis, improve blood flow, and enhance erectile function by stimulating the release of angiogenic factors and activating cellular signaling pathways involved in tissue repair.
So, the trick here is the angiongenesis which I do not know how to force it myself lol
 
Good luck, for the price I pray you make incredible growth
 
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