New 20k PE device

oldandlively said:
Half inch in the tube is very common. I gain the same in the ADS, and at time, 1 full inch, after half hour of warmup stretching. I thought I went crazy at times, but once your tissues are suffiicient pre-stretched, the tissues will not fight back. It will relax. But for it to work within a few minutes, I can understand why with a massive rental price tag.

I already researched into the shockwave "vibration" therapy a few years ago. This is an old technology being incorporated to modern medical practices. Think about fat cell destruction through vibration/ultrasonic and cold treatment. It's been in practices since the early 1990s. The vibration system was incorporated since the 1960s through interesting gadgets.
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Agree 💯
 
oldandlively said:
Actually, I already calculated at 42 MHz going through the plastic tube wall based on the required LIST info and previous 24 clinical and published medical journals. The problem is micro banding in an effective fan shape, or even in a box shape pattern. This is where the expenses lay due to power adjustment and programming. Time to recruit a hardware and software geek.
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I think you’re onto something about the 42 MHz. I saw someone else say 40.
Wonder what a vibrating cock ring MHz is.

Do you think the tube is specially made so that it has a specific resonance frequency to potentiate vibration?
 
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What is this device you speak of?
I have looked at the website, but the one picture they have are not clear.
- Why do they not want to show the device clearly?

No ligaments pullig while enlargement are happening? Are they overpromizing on the speed of gains?

Okay. Apperently the ligaments also stretch.
But will you gain faster then doing manual stretches with your hands or LengthMaster 3 - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging.
 
DLD said:
What are your thoughts?
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Trying to cheat 😂 (just joking).

But if it works, it works.
It will be very interesting to see the results from this guy. But not many will have access to it.
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But can't imagine that it will work better then LengthMaster - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging 3 for length gains.

But girth gains it may out perform LengthMaster 3.
But what about the thickness? LengthMaster 3 will give you so much penis thickness, especially with doing BTC bundled stretches behind the cheeks with 5 minutes holds and with the attachment at the base.

To soon to know really.
Very interesting device.
 
I think it is a scam and ridiculously expensive
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Can be!
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I have spent 22 years in this business and nothing has ever trumped SRT - Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory. I find that to be impossible. I hate to see brothers waste their money on something so expensive and with amazing claims. I have used everything available for pe and have not found anything that compares to our powerful methods and equipment
 
92tmorgan said:
I think you’re onto something about the 42 MHz. I saw someone else say 40.
Wonder what a vibrating cock ring MHz is.

Do you think the tube is specially made so that it has a specific resonance frequency to potentiate vibration?
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40Hz direct subdermal site application is the normal low intensity frequency uses. Think of ultrasound for scanning fetuses during pregnancy. The 2Mhz extra is to allow sound to penetrate the plastic/glass media, the tube, without the sound behind dispersed. We came up with this calculation long ago for arthritis and scarring tissues application in hospital environment in place of surgeries. It works only 40% of the time. However, the fats and collagens breakdown is indeed solid. Fats and collagens breaks down between 35 MHz and 48MHz. That's the same as standing in front of a 8 feet fall stadium speaker. Yeah..fat loss and hearing loss at the same time.

However, the frequency is one thing. But the truth behind it is the silent banding during usage. You should not be hearing anything, but do feel the vibration. The energy loading should be around 1500 watts with cycles of 5 seconds. I have a feeling of being nuked in the microwave.
 
oldandlively said:
40Hz direct subdermal site application is the normal low intensity frequency uses. Think of ultrasound for scanning fetuses during pregnancy. The 2Mhz extra is to allow sound to penetrate the plastic/glass media, the tube, without the sound behind dispersed. We came up with this calculation long ago for arthritis and scarring tissues application in hospital environment in place of surgeries. It works only 40% of the time. However, the fats and collagens breakdown is indeed solid. Fats and collagens breaks down between 35 MHz and 48MHz. That's the same as standing in front of a 8 feet fall stadium speaker. Yeah..fat loss and hearing loss at the same time.

However, the frequency is one thing. But the truth behind it is the silent banding during usage. You should not be hearing anything, but do feel the vibration. The energy loading should be around 1500 watts with cycles of 5 seconds. I have a feeling of being nuked in the microwave.
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If any one can reverse engineer this on this forum it’s you. Haha
 
DLD said:
I think it is a scam and ridiculously expensive
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Ridiculously expensive. Yes. Scam… we will see. So far not a single client of there’s has asked for their money back on the 1” or more money back guarantee. The guy testing it currently has no affiliation and is doing a daily blog on it. Will be interesting to see.

It’ll be for the rich and lazy. All they have to do is put some lube on, put it on and press start.
 
Actually, there are mini versions of these on AliExpress in terms of air vacuum through intermediate cycling. The max vac pressure is 10inHg. Not enough when it comes to air. It requires 15 to 20 inHg for tugging against all soft tissues.

I found three manufacturers with compact cycling pneumatic vac system, the size of a shoe box. The kicker is the programming requirement for an all controlling interface. Everything else is putting the parts together. I even found a manufacturer that sells the compact LIST power modulator and directional caster. The price tag is $1100. Yeah...3 months at $20K vs 1 year at $600, and you have the equipment for life. Don't know about that heavy price tag.
 
The price is disturbing
 
DLD said:
I have spent 22 years in this business and nothing has ever trumped SRT. I find that to be impossible. I hate to see brothers waste their money on something so expensive and with amazing claims. I have used everything available for pe and have not found anything that compares to our powerful methods and equipment
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SRT is the shit.
Talking about 1" length gains.
That is not much when we know what SRT can do for you.

SRT will for sure get you there faster.
Imagine using this expensive machine, and then compressing your penis in you pants immediately. The gains will be slow.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
SRT is the shit.
Talking about 1" length gains.
That is not much when we know what SRT can do for you.

SRT will for sure get you there faster.
Imagine using this expensive machine, and then compressing your penis in you pants immediately. The gains will be slow.
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No other system can deliver this. I worked on SRT for many years to produce the growth it brings. I am not against new methods just saying make sure it is legit. If someone who has found a wonderful piece of equipment that works as well I will invest in it to bring to our awesome store
 
The device seems pretty convenient but why is it different from extreme pumping with hydro vibrating rings ? Also is there someone alive with huge penis and hard rock etections that came out of this ?
 
kriskros said:
The device seems pretty convenient but why is it different from extreme pumping with hydro vibrating rings ? Also is there someone alive with huge penis and hard rock etections that came out of this ?
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This is why I'm very interested in the results. I already figured out the mechanics behind the devices, as well as the biological influences by the mechanics for the growth. However, no one posted the journey for this device and the post-results after 1 year. What the device does is exactly what the brothers are doing. We're focusing on more manual approaches over the automation side of the devices. The only unique feature of this is the addition of the LIST (low intensity sound therapy) added to the routine. It's a very pricey module.
 
kriskros said:
The device seems pretty convenient but why is it different from extreme pumping with hydro vibrating rings ? Also is there someone alive with huge penis and hard rock etections that came out of this ?
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I was thinking along the same lines
 
Shockwave therapy is being used in andrologist Institutes to help with ED and blood vessel problems.
To me, based on their info, they agree that the methodology of bundled stretches and MOS-RED | NIR INFRARED LIGHT THERAPY FOR ERECTION QUALITY before girth routine is the right approach for max results. At least this is what i understood.
 
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