I agree with your advice.jvf1,
I understand that you want to rush things because you feel like you're old. Personally, I don't think 58 is that old.
Anyway, my whole point about everything I wrote, is that PE is not something you can rush. It will happen when it happens, but in the meantime, the most important thing is to be consistent with a solid routine, and have some patience. That is the best thing you can do.
That is my advice, take it or leave it. I am sure a lot of brothers would tell you the same.
I think I agree with this. I gained BPEL: 0.4" in 16 days (from 5“ to 5,4") doing only the Newbie routine stretches with help from a broomstick. But increasing the intensity as I progressed, and later only doing bundled stretches. I keep going with this routine.jvf1,
Your main problem is that you are trying to do too much at once. You are doing manuals, you are stretching with the lengthmaster, you are hanging with the lengthmaster, you are using the sizedoctor, you are pumping, you are jelqing, you are... you are probably doing more things. For some reason, in your mind, you seem to think that the more devices you use, the faster your gains will come. In a war, you can bring all the best weapons, the best tanks, the best heavy artillery... if you do not have the right plan, it does not matter how good your weapons are, you are going to get fucked!
When it comes to PE, you do not have a well thought-out plan. Your strategy is attack, attack, attack! And then attack some more! You attack so fucking much, that you end up hurting yourself, causing injuries, blisters, pain, etc... and then you come on the forum and write about all of the issues you are having expecting people to help you, when guys on here have REPEATEDLY told you that your routine is too complicated and that it would be a wise idea to tone it down a bit and follow a STRUCTURED routine.
If I tried to do the shit that you are doing, there is no way my unit would be able to handle all of that stress from multiple devices all at once. When I was hanging, do you know how long it took me to work my way up to 4 hours per day? It took 3 months for my tissues to adapt to the stress. Three fucking months! If I had tried to take SHORTCUTS and do all of that from the first day, there is a 100% GUARANTEE that I would have serious problems. So imagine the shit that YOU are doing. And you are wondering WHY you are having issues? Are you serious dude? That is what I mean by shortcuts. You do not have patience, you want everything to happen NOW, NOW, NOW... PE does not work that way, and if you have that mindset going forward you are doomed to fail. I PROMISE YOU THAT. You need to simplify your life and come up with a structured routine that you can do every single day, that you will not deviate from. You have to have the discipline to stick to it. There are plenty of brothers here that can help you with that. Ask for help. My concern is that you are just going to ignore everyone's advice and do all the wrong things again, and if that is the case, then nobody can help you. In the end, it is your decision, but do not complain about future issues if you refuse to listen.
I suggest you do some manuals for length, and spend 4+ hours in an ADS per day (work up to this slowly). I do not like doing length and girth at the same time because it creates too many problems such as excess fatigue, pain, discomfort, etc. But if you insist on doing girth as well, do the 5x5x3. DO NOT ADD ANYTHING ELSE!
If you do not like my advice, you can ask around. There are plenty of guys here, I am sure, who would be happy to help you.
I hope you see the error in your ways and make some changes.
All the best.
SIM,I think I agree with this. I gained BPEL: 0.4" in 16 days (from 5“ to 5,4") doing only the Newbie routine stretches with help from a broomstick. But increasing the intensity as I progressed, and later only doing bundled stretches. I keep going with this routine.
I think the more simple your routine is, the more consistent and more discipline, you are going to be about doing PE. And that will create results.
Remember @jvf1 we are here to help.
Really intesting to read.SIM,
Right on the money. I believe that when a guy gets this, he is already more than halfway there. Having the right mindset is the most important thing, because when you understand and accept how this works beyond newbie gains, you will not be as discouraged when gains slow down. If you stick to it, no matter what, you will continue to gain, and reach your goals eventually.
I have been using an ADS since the new year and have gained 1/8 inch in BPFSL. I will do an official BPEL measurement at the end of March. Since getting back into PE at the beginning of the new year, I have been consistently gaining 1/16th every month, extending 4 hours per day. Now, granted, that does not sound like much (laughable compared to my quick newbie gains), but those "quick gains" are long gone, and I accepted that a long time ago.
Some guys will have this attitude of "the hell with it, it is not worth it," and just give up. The way I see it, gains are slow, okay, sure... but 1/16th per month is ONE FULL INCH in 16 months. THAT is my motivation. One full inch is a huge difference.
It is all about attitude, and having the right knowledge.
I never heard of anyone using a broomstick before. Sounds creative. What are you doing with it? A-stretch? DLD Blasters? Hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. As long as it is working.
In the beginning I was questioning if it was worth it (so much time...and so on), but @hugh-girth helped me to stick with it. He was always there to answer my questions...and they where plenty. Without him, I don't think I would have been seeing the results I see today.Some guys will have this attitude of "the hell with it, it is not worth it," and just give up. The way I see it, gains are slow, okay, sure... but 1/16th per month is ONE FULL INCH in 16 months.
It is never a bad thing to have a mentor, especially in the beginning, when you are inexperienced. The brotherhood can help boost your confidence and give you motivation to keep you on the right track. But at the end of the day, you are responsible for your own success. Only YOU can make it happen. As you gain more experience, and know what to expect, you will find that you won't need much support, if any. True success will depend on how much effort and consistency you put in. At some point, you will become your own guru, if you keep at it long enough.In the beginning I was questioning if it was worth it (so much time...and so on), but @hugh-girth helped me to stick with it. He was always there to answer my questions...and they where plenty. Without him, I don't think I would have been seeing the results I see today.
He have been a good mentor (Definition: an experienced and trusted adviser) to me.
You need motivation, discipline and you need the brotherhood to be successful in PE.
Ask specific questions when you are new, is a good way to get started in PE.
This is at least my experience.
Absolutely.But at the end of the day, you are responsible for your own success.
Me tooI agree with your advice.
So, your routine is nothing like what these others are doing. That is inconsistent with the advice given.. You hang weights and no-one else has even recommended that. So, tell me how to hang weights from beginner to whatever. I can hang 7lbs for 10 minutes before it gets ti be to much. I have noticed small flaccid gain from weights.FWIW I’m in my 50s and am on the higher end of the gains range. You’d be wise to heed the recommendations I’ve seen offered on this thread. I started just under two years ago. The biggest recommendation I can make from my own experience is to be consistent. Monitor your progress and make changes when necessary. If you’re feeling fatigue (not pain!) regularly, you’re doing it right. My current routine is very simple. Hang, stretch, clamp, wear a sleeve as long as possible during the day. I spend between 1 and 2 hours doing that consistently every day and take a rest every 5 days or so.
You have on ly been here siIn the beginning I was questioning if it was worth it (so much time...and so on), but @hugh-girth helped me to stick with it. He was always there to answer my questions...and they where plenty. Without him, I don't think I would have been seeing the results I see today.
He have been a good mentor (Definition: an experienced and trusted adviser) to me.
You need motivation, discipline and you need the brotherhood to be successful in PE.
Ask specific questions when you are new, is a good way to get started in PE.
This is at least my experience.