When to stop?

quazimodo_007;751407 said:
Im just natural im over 9" length now I want 10"

This is the problem with PE. As we gain, we desire more. You cannot enjoy balls deep penetration with your current length, can you?
 
My belief is that your mind hasn't been trained at the same rate as your body and doesn't 'see' the 'new you' yet...therefore it just signals 'business as usual' instead 'holy f#@k'
Maybe have a few sexual encounters and gauge the response(s) from your partner(s) and use that as a barometer
 
daironmonk;751405 said:
I am finally 6+ girth but it doesnt seem like enough anymore. Why?

Because you look at it every day would be my guess. The mind is a powerful thing, it can make us believe anything we let it. 6" girth is impressive, I am sure most women would agree
 
Lookn4girth;751418 said:
Because you look at it every day would be my guess. The mind is a powerful thing, it can make us believe anything we let it. 6" girth is impressive, I am sure most women would agree

Six inches in girth would amaze any woman, that is huge! About 1.5" above average! This will fill any woman heart!
 
Big Schwanz Acht;751411 said:
My belief is that your mind hasn't been trained at the same rate as your body and doesn't 'see' the 'new you' yet...therefore it just signals 'business as usual' instead 'holy f#@k'
Maybe have a few sexual encounters and gauge the response(s) from your partner(s) and use that as a barometer

This is exactly what I intend doing by the middle of July.
 
The best measurement is always a compliment from the wife!
 
Never stop. There is no reason to stop. I can guarantee you there are PLENTY of freaks out there that will squat down all the way on a 10-12 inch pole. Just search on one of those adult entertainment sites "riding mandingo" True, those are pornstars, but remember, pornstars were average civilians before and many went in the industry craving those giant phalluses. Thousands of other desire them too but dont have the courage/opportunity to get into adult entertainment.

Therefore, dont stop. It will always be better to have some extra than lacking dick.
 
What is a nice length that is big enough to pound all women balls deep and to hit her cervix? For her multiple orgasms? Is that 8 inches BPEL or NBPEL?

Not sure what is the specific size, but its more than that. I am over 8" BPEL and there are many women I have not been able to pound their cervix. Perhaps there is one size that would cover the whole spectrum? maybe 9-9.5"
most girls LOVE to have their uterus pounded. It just has to be done the right way. If you hurt her during the fist few minutes chances are shell walk away. But if you make her horny the proper way and start fucking her like a God, then she will ask for more and more and more and that pounding will make her explode in ecstasy.
 
You should never stop you should make it a part of your life forever. Not in the sense that you’re doing a full blown work out but in the sense that you’re going to maintain your penile Health. As you get older things start to shrink, we get fatter, or libido starts to lower, and other things, so it is important to maintain our sexual health.
 
Not sure what is the specific size, but its more than that. I am over 8" BPEL and there are many women I have not been able to pound their cervix. Perhaps there is one size that would cover the whole spectrum? maybe 9-9.5"
most girls LOVE to have their uterus pounded. It just has to be done the right way. If you hurt her during the fist few minutes chances are shell walk away. But if you make her horny the proper way and start fucking her like a God, then she will ask for more and more and more and that pounding will make her explode in ecstasy.

Wow you just confirmed what I always thought. It’s really true that lots of women desire that 9 or 10 incher, that’s why i’m going for 10 inch. How long have you been PE’ing? And do you have reference material, as in, fucking with your starting size and now fucking women with 8” BPEL? What are the differences ?

Also what girth would be appropriate? 7 inches? Or 8 inches?

Is there a way to speed up length gains? Like using ipamorelin peptides with MOD GRF 1-29 ? For natural HGH boosting ?
 
I’ll answer one of the questions and I’ll let Jack answer the others. 8 inches of birth is useless. I tell most men go for 6.5 inches and 7 inches at the absolute maximum. But it’s your penis it’s up to you
 
You should never stop you should make it a part of your life forever. Not in the sense that you’re doing a full blown work out but in the sense that you’re going to maintain your penile Health. As you get older things start to shrink, we get fatter, or libido starts to lower, and other things, so it is important to maintain our sexual health.

Believe me, the moment I get my first real job after graduating, i’m going to PE full hours until my goal of 10 inches is reached, maybe I will reach it earlier with the SiliStretcher. I’ve bought Latex gloves to put on the sleeves without sweating hands man. That should fix my slipping problem ?
 
I’ll answer one of the questions and I’ll let Jack answer the others. 8 inches of birth is useless. I tell most men go for 6.5 inches and 7 inches at the absolute maximum. But it’s your penis it’s up to you

Why is 8 inch girth useless ? ? does it cause too much frictional pain for women?
I think 7 inch is the sweetspot indeed, hard as steel with a good kegel program
 
Believe me, the moment I get my first real job after graduating, i’m going to PE full hours until my goal of 10 inches is reached, maybe I will reach it earlier with the SiliStretcher. I’ve bought Latex gloves to put on the sleeves without sweating hands man. That should fix my slipping problem ?

The SiliStretcher is going to become the best ADS on the market, PERIOD! All of her efforts are going into this to make it an all in one system where you will never have to buy another ADS again. Once you get to that 10 inches you’ll definitely want to keep good penile health, especially with your pelvic floor muscles to keep them strong and able to hold the amount of blood in your penis necessary to keep it erect.
 
Wow you just confirmed what I always thought. It’s really true that lots of women desire that 9 or 10 incher, that’s why i’m going for 10 inch. How long have you been PE’ing? And do you have reference material, as in, fucking with your starting size and now fucking women with 8” BPEL? What are the differences ?

Also what girth would be appropriate? 7 inches? Or 8 inches?

Is there a way to speed up length gains? Like using ipamorelin peptides with MOD GRF 1-29 ? For natural HGH boosting ?


First of all DLD is correct, 8" of girth is useless. Simply too much. It will most probably give a girl a very good fuck, but she will be useless next day. If you get into a stable relationship while having 8" of girth, forget about frequent good pounding sex. No pussy can take a highly active sexual life from 8" of girth. My girth is 6.25", my last GF I was pounding her violently every day, after 2-3 days we had to go to a pharmacy to buy products for her pussy. Her soreness from friction and soreness in her cervix was too much. She lived out of town so every time we got together for a couple of weeks was the same process. Many times just out of libido and desire she would override the pain, but then after that she was miserable. So with 8" thats just insanity.

There is no way to speed up gains. Drugs like peptides which by the most part are a scam, wont do anything for penis size. Neither HGH. Once your growth plates are closed is game over.
 
Never stop. There is no reason to stop. I can guarantee you there are PLENTY of freaks out there that will squat down all the way on a 10-12 inch pole. Just search on one of those adult entertainment sites "riding mandingo" True, those are pornstars, but remember, pornstars were average civilians before and many went in the industry craving those giant phalluses. Thousands of other desire them too but dont have the courage/opportunity to get into adult entertainment.

Therefore, dont stop. It will always be better to have some extra than lacking dick.

@Jackxxx I wouldn't think that women get into adult entertainment just to be pounded by huge dicks. But i know you've done adult entertainment. Have you met girls in the business who did get into it (partly) for that?
 
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@Jackxxx I wouldn't think that women get into adult entertainment just to be pounded by huge dicks. But i know you've done adult entertainment. Have you met girls in the business who did get intonit (partly) for that?

Absolutely. Many of them. I personally worked with FREAKS. I remember one girl, out of respect I wont mention her name because this is her private life and as far as I know she is still somewhat in the business. She was married. 2 kids. Stable career, she is a psychologist. But she had a problem. She is a nymphomaniac. She couldnt resist, because of sex her marriage was going very bad, and before she wasted more time, she joined the adult entertainment industry to be fucked and pounded like never before. GORGOEUS girl, I had the great pleasure of doing a couple of scenes with her, I couldnt get enough of her. We literally fucked THE WHOLE day. Off camera we were kissing and playing and fucking to the point that the director was telling us all the time "guys save some for later, dont fuck up the scene" but we knew what we were doing.

And like her there are plenty of others. Perhaps the majority join the adult entertainment industry because they dont have anything else to do in life, but a good portion of them join because they are addicted to dick.
 
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I am finally 6+ girth but it doesn't seem like enough anymore. Why?

Getting back to the OP

Your 6" plus girth, but it doesn't feel enough for you anymore, and why? well, this is a very opinion based responsive thread to your question. Its very personalized, from the posts in this thread.

With that said, you wont have a fully correct or wrong answer here, so take from it all what you will! as I have.

My answer to your question, is that as we grow larger in size, often for whatever reason, we simply want more. It could be due to insecurity, or feelings of inadequate brought upon by watching adult entertainment, or simply you want more size, like myself.

I dont engage in sex anymore due to spiritual reasons, and I have not had sex for 9 years! dont miss it either, and yet I want more size because I see this as a challenge, a hobby, and something to get better at.
It needn't be all about sex, and banging away some pussy.

I never recommend anyone to compare themselves to others, as this brings about all kinds of issues with ones views about how the body looks, obsessing over how the penis is, to having unhealthy sexual attitudes also developing.

Okay, what I suggest for you my man, is carry out the simple yet effective exercise in the following thread


Do several sizes actually, a few you like, or would like to become, and some that are quite frankly ludicrous ... I let you decide. Also, do one of your pre-PE size.

Look at these, and see how you feel now ... dont get disheartened at this stage because they are larger, look at how far you have already managed to travel along this dusty bullshit laden road we're on here! and, do not allow others unhealthy sexualized attitudes create confusion in your own mind, everyone has tastes, and dislikes ... dont believe everything you read about sex, and what woman are supposed to want as said by many men, because some see the world as a sexual playground, and that is certainly not healthy.

Any questions please fire away bud.
 
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Getting back to the OP

Your 6" plus girth, but it doesn't feel enough for you anymore, and why? well, this is a very opinion based responsive thread to your question. Its very personalized, from the posts in this thread.

With that said, you wont have a fully correct or wrong answer here, so take from it all what you will! as I have.

My answer to your question, is that as we grow larger in size, often for whatever reason, we simply want more. It could be due to insecurity, or feelings of inadequate brought upon by watching adult entertainment, or simply you want more size.

I never recommend anyone to compare themselves to others, as this brings about all kinds of issues with ones views about how the body looks, obsessing over how the penis is, to having unhealthy sexual attitudes also.

Okay, what I suggest for you my man, is carry out the simple yet effective exercise in the following thread


Do several sizes actually, a few you like, or would like to become, and some that are quite frankly ludicrous ... I let you decide. Also, do one of your pre-PE size.

Look at these, and see how you feel now ... dont get disheartened at this stage because they are larger, look at how far you have already managed to travel along this dusty bullshit laden road we're on here! and, do not allow others unhealthy sexualized attitudes create confusion in your own mind, everyone has tastes, and dislikes ... dont believe everything you read about sex, and what woman are supposed to want as said by many men, because some see the world as a sexual playground, and that is certainly not healthy.

Any questions please fire away bud.

Excellent post my brother!
 
fuck this guy is fucking proud wish i could sy the same ill be like im 9 in lenght i just want to gain that extra inch. 8-)
You will, stay here and stay focused and you will get there, I promise!
 
Getting back to the OP

Your 6" plus girth, but it doesn't feel enough for you anymore, and why? well, this is a very opinion based responsive thread to your question. Its very personalized, from the posts in this thread.

With that said, you wont have a fully correct or wrong answer here, so take from it all what you will! as I have.

My answer to your question, is that as we grow larger in size, often for whatever reason, we simply want more. It could be due to insecurity, or feelings of inadequate brought upon by watching adult entertainment, or simply you want more size, like myself.

I dont engage in sex anymore due to spiritual reasons, and I have not had sex for 9 years! dont miss it either, and yet I want more size because I see this as a challenge, a hobby, and something to get better at.
It needn't be all about sex, and banging away some pussy.

I never recommend anyone to compare themselves to others, as this brings about all kinds of issues with ones views about how the body looks, obsessing over how the penis is, to having unhealthy sexual attitudes also developing.

Okay, what I suggest for you my man, is carry out the simple yet effective exercise in the following thread


Do several sizes actually, a few you like, or would like to become, and some that are quite frankly ludicrous ... I let you decide. Also, do one of your pre-PE size.

Look at these, and see how you feel now ... dont get disheartened at this stage because they are larger, look at how far you have already managed to travel along this dusty bullshit laden road we're on here! and, do not allow others unhealthy sexualized attitudes create confusion in your own mind, everyone has tastes, and dislikes ... dont believe everything you read about sex, and what woman are supposed to want as said by many men, because some see the world as a sexual playground, and that is certainly not healthy.

Any questions please fire away bud.

Why have you decided to give up sex? What are your motives? I am really curious because maybe I want to walk this path as well... I am 26 years old now, and I only fucked 3 girls in my life on earth, I don’t think there will be more girls even if I gained my size. I might test it out on a few but I am doing this for my self and as a hobby. I’d be perfectly happy to stay celibate for the rest of my life, i’m already 2 months into Nofap, no adult entertainment, no sexual things. Just pure PE and studying. I am preparing myself also for ascension, think in opening chakras, awakening kundalini, astral projection etc.. So I would love to hear your story.

I know you have fucked alot of women of course, so maybe you got tired of it, or maybe you think the juice ain’t worth the squeeze anymore ??
 
First of all DLD is correct, 8" of girth is useless. Simply too much. It will most probably give a girl a very good fuck, but she will be useless next day. If you get into a stable relationship while having 8" of girth, forget about frequent good pounding sex. No pussy can take a highly active sexual life from 8" of girth. My girth is 6.25", my last GF I was pounding her violently every day, after 2-3 days we had to go to a pharmacy to buy products for her pussy. Her soreness from friction and soreness in her cervix was too much. She lived out of town so every time we got together for a couple of weeks was the same process. Many times just out of libido and desire she would override the pain, but then after that she was miserable. So with 8" thats just insanity.

There is no way to speed up gains. Drugs like peptides which by the most part are a scam, wont do anything for penis size. Neither HGH. Once your growth plates are closed is game over.

What about natural DHT boosting and optimization? I’ve read lots of things about micro nutrients, good healthy fats, and having insanely high natural hormone levels in combination with intermittent fasting, it should help a little bit don’t you think?

All little things help, as in creating an anabolic environment, androgen receptor sensitivity, circulating lots of DHT and HGH through your system the natural way. Absolutely no steroids because it harms your natural test production.

And if you do hanging in combination with the things I described, it may help a bit right? I mean it is better than having a poor diet, no vitAmins or micro nutrients, etc

What is your length routine? Are you only focussed on length nowadays? What is your length goal? 10 inches?
 
Why have you decided to give up sex? What are your motives? I am really curious because maybe I want to walk this path as well... I am 26 years old now, and I only fucked 3 girls in my life on earth, I don’t think there will be more girls even if I gained my size. I might test it out on a few but I am doing this for my self and as a hobby. I’d be perfectly happy to stay celibate for the rest of my life, i’m already 2 months into Nofap, no adult entertainment, no sexual things. Just pure PE and studying. I am preparing myself also for ascension, think in opening chakras, awakening kundalini, astral projection etc.. So I would love to hear your story.

I know you have fucked alot of women of course, so maybe you got tired of it, or maybe you think the juice ain’t worth the squeeze anymore ??

Spiritual reasons, and it has helped with my own mental health not being in so many sexual relationships, one night stands, casual sex etc.

I have Asperger's syndrome, so social interactions has always been difficult for me. Not needing to have a romantic relationship, has become a huge weight off my shoulders in all honesty.

I'm not at all lonely, I live with family, and we are all close. I'm dedicated to my spiritual path, but I need allot of improvement, always room for improvement on this path. For example, replacing hatred with love, sounds cheesy, but it is the TRUTH! I need to spend more time meditating on compassion towards others, which I did several years ago, and was allot more kinder inside.

My spiritual path is somewhat mixed to outsiders, but consists of what would be deemed Pagan elements, Mahayana Buddhism, Shamanism, and Spiritualism.

I do have contact with spirits, but dont discuss this out in the open in fear of being attacked by others for my tradition, or being labelled a weirdo. I'm not, trust me.

I'm always wanting to get around to doing more threads in the art of attraction section, but get waylaid with something else. I will get to it soon.

Please be careful where you get info from when going down this path, as about 90% of it is bullshit, and the best material has been from the old sources, the old books you can get.

I want to also add, that no one is controlling us, no world order :) our destiny is already mapped out when we are born to a certain extent, but not permanent ... its a road lets say, from point A when you are born to point Z when you die, but, getting to it, changes depending on how we react to life, decisions, choices we make.

WE are responsible, only WE, for OUR OWN path ... no one else! not accepting this, is a cop out, and not taking on responsibility hence so many conspiracy theories are around, but they are entitled to think as they choose.

Let me tell you now, honestly from the heart ... we, all of us, and the creatures around us, everything, the stars, you name it, are all interconnected .... the only way I can describe this from my own spiritual travels, is, like a hologram, as the entire universe, well life, is, like a hologram in how it works.

I REALLY REALLY want to get something spiritual setup, to combine in with the SRT, as hand on heart, if guys are open minded, and meditate, using visualization, it will greatly benefit the programme.

This is what I did shortly after starting PE, I used to see Ramon from monstersofcock on vids, and pix, so visualized that penis. Of course I was doing a routine, but I had such concrete vision, that once I surpassed his size, I had Shane Diesel ... I reached his stats. It isn't coincidence, and it plays a vital linkup in the mind, planting a seed, manifesting with the already physical work with the routines to acquire new growth.

This is also the secret to all successful occultists, they already know what they desire in ritual will, and has passed, alas it does pass.

So, yeah, I'm sex free :) my sex drive is not low though! guys seem to assume, because I dont have sex for years, my testosterone levels must be low, that is so far from the truth. My levels are above average, and I get desires, have erotic day dreams like anyone else. Just that I can CONTROL myself, I dont need to watch adult entertainment, wank away all day, or engage in sex ... I know, but all that energy is saved for the spiritual work!

If I want a pussy, I'd rather now buy a fleshlight. No fuss, no complications, you get to even choose what you want, and its meant to feel just as good, if not better then the real thing ... did I mention it also doesn't smell, and is clean :)

In the future, I may very well find a lady, fall in love, and engage in sex again. When you love the person, for me, the sex was always better, and meant something. Its different to sex, and fucking.
 
Spiritual reasons, and it has helped with my own mental health not being in so many sexual relationships, one night stands, casual sex etc.

I have Asperger's syndrome, so social interactions has always been difficult for me. Not needing to have a romantic relationship, has become a huge weight off my shoulders in all honesty.

I'm not at all lonely, I live with family, and we are all close. I'm dedicated to my spiritual path, but I need allot of improvement, always room for improvement on this path. For example, replacing hatred with love, sounds cheesy, but it is the TRUTH! I need to spend more time meditating on compassion towards others, which I did several years ago, and was allot more kinder inside.

My spiritual path is somewhat mixed to outsiders, but consists of what would be deemed Pagan elements, Mahayana Buddhism, Shamanism, and Spiritualism.

I do have contact with spirits, but dont discuss this out in the open in fear of being attacked by others for my tradition, or being labelled a weirdo. I'm not, trust me.

I'm always wanting to get around to doing more threads in the art of attraction section, but get waylaid with something else. I will get to it soon.

Please be careful where you get info from when going down this path, as about 90% of it is bullshit, and the best material has been from the old sources, the old books you can get.

I want to also add, that no one is controlling us, no world order :) our destiny is already mapped out when we are born to a certain extent, but not permanent ... its a road lets say, from point A when you are born to point Z when you die, but, getting to it, changes depending on how we react to life, decisions, choices we make.

WE are responsible, only WE, for OUR OWN path ... no one else! not accepting this, is a cop out, and not taking on responsibility hence so many conspiracy theories are around, but they are entitled to think as they choose.

Let me tell you now, honestly from the heart ... we, all of us, and the creatures around us, everything, the stars, you name it, are all interconnected .... the only way I can describe this from my own spiritual travels, is, like a hologram, as the entire universe, well life, is, like a hologram in how it works.

I REALLY REALLY want to get something spiritual setup, to combine in with the SRT, as hand on heart, if guys are open minded, and meditate, using visualization, it will greatly benefit the programme.

This is what I did shortly after starting PE, I used to see Ramon from monstersofcock on vids, and pix, so visualized that penis. Of course I was doing a routine, but I had such concrete vision, that once I surpassed his size, I had Shane Diesel ... I reached his stats. It isn't coincidence, and it plays a vital linkup in the mind, planting a seed, manifesting with the already physical work with the routines to acquire new growth.

This is also the secret to all successful occultists, they already know what they desire in ritual will, and has passed, alas it does pass.

So, yeah, I'm sex free :) my sex drive is not low though! guys seem to assume, because I dont have sex for years, my testosterone levels must be low, that is so far from the truth. My levels are above average, and I get desires, have erotic day dreams like anyone else. Just that I can CONTROL myself, I dont need to watch adult entertainment, wank away all day, or engage in sex ... I know, but all that energy is saved for the spiritual work!

If I want a pussy, I'd rather now buy a fleshlight. No fuss, no complications, you get to even choose what you want, and its meant to feel just as good, if not better then the real thing ... did I mention it also doesn't smell, and is clean :)

In the future, I may very well find a lady, fall in love, and engage in sex again. When you love the person, for me, the sex was always better, and meant something. Its different to sex, and fucking.

Wow that’s wonderful man! You have just describes what I already thought and knew about the universe. The interconnection of all life, our galaxies and everything. It’s no coincidence lol.

Well I am still curious to why there is evil and good on this planet, and why we can’t thrive and live in peace together as one unit. All the world problems, wars, politics, etcetera.... I want to travel to the Akashic Records to have a life review of my past lifes and other stuff, I am a real truth seeker, even if it’s not a nice truth!

I am dead serious about the astral world and spirit traveling. I can also feel energies, I have a little bit of clairsentience, and I have events happening in my room that are unexplainable when I was home alone ? So yea there is definitely something after we die. That’s why I am kind and honest because i’m good hearted by nature. I don’t need to manipulate others, or hurt other people.

So i’m glad to have found someone who also is into spirituality. Do you have more life secrets for me? I’d love to hear all knowledge that you’ve got. You can also PM me if you’re uncomfortable sharing that stuff on a public forum. I know that on this forum not many people are awake, but that doesn’t matter. When we get born on earth, our psychic senses are turned off by default because we as humans have to learn our life lessons here on earth. So we are disconnected with the source. I still got alot of work to do and discover in the spiritual world ?

Thanks for your explanation. It makes totally sense to me. Having sex while in real love is better. But I am also afraid that it can hurt me and break my heart, i’m a HSP (Highly Sensitive Person) and I really have trouble with all the signals/emotions that I pick up during the day. Also on public transportation, people walking around with a dirty aura, bad stuff etc, so I really get tired and affected by that. I have learned to shield myself.
 
I am celibate for pretty much the same reasons. I’m not religious in anyway but I do love Jesus and the Bible and I decided 10 years ago to become a teacher of the word. Celibacy helps me to concentrate on things that are important and what I do in the brotherhood and in my ministries. I’m not gay nor do I lack the temptation to have sex, I am a healthy man who is made this decision to give all of my energy and time to that which is most important to me, teaching. Whether I’m teaching in the brotherhood or I am teaching in my ministries my mind is always focused on the task at hand.

Plus in my mind I have a son and I have two grandsons and the main reason to have a wife, subconsciously, is to create children, preferably boys for the simple reason men want their names to be carried on. They want their species to survive so men men are always thinking of ways to get with the woman. Of course the excitement of sex is awesome but the primary reason is to produce children.I am all set with children and grandchildren so at this point forward it would be purely friendship with a woman.
 
Wow that’s wonderful man! You have just describes what I already thought and knew about the universe. The interconnection of all life, our galaxies and everything. It’s no coincidence LOL.

Well I am still curious to why there is evil and good on this planet, and why we can’t thrive and live in peace together as one unit. All the world problems, wars, politics, etcetera.... I want to travel to the Akashic Records to have a life review of my past lifes and other stuff, I am a real truth seeker, even if it’s not a nice truth!

I am dead serious about the astral world and spirit traveling. I can also feel energies, I have a little bit of clairsentience, and I have events happening in my room that are unexplainable when I was home alone ? So yea there is definitely something after we die. That’s why I am kind and honest because i’m good hearted by nature. I don’t need to manipulate others, or hurt other people.

So i’m glad to have found someone who also is into spirituality. Do you have more life secrets for me? I’d love to hear all knowledge that you’ve got. You can also PM me if you’re uncomfortable sharing that stuff on a public forum. I know that on this forum not many people are awake, but that doesn’t matter. When we get born on earth, our psychic senses are turned off by default because we as humans have to learn our life lessons here on earth. So we are disconnected with the source. I still got alot of work to do and discover in the spiritual world ?

Thanks for your explanation. It makes totally sense to me. Having sex while in real love is better. But I am also afraid that it can hurt me and break my heart, i’m a HSP (Highly Sensitive Person) and I really have trouble with all the signals/emotions that I pick up during the day. Also on public transportation, people walking around with a dirty aura, bad stuff etc, so I really get tired and affected by that. I have learned to shield myself.


In time I will post more, but regarding good & evil .... its relative to each person, we choose our own actions, and humanity has often been consumed with greed, and power.

Us humans have a great responsibility due to what we are capable of doing, literally, able to destroy life on this planet! We are imho the most amazing, and most wicked creature to face the Earth! the only species, that takes pleasure in killing another creature ... you dont get Lions killing for fun.

Anyway, as stated, we all make our own choices.
 
In time I will post more, but regarding good & evil .... its relative to each person, we choose our own actions, and humanity has often been consumed with greed, and power.

Us humans have a great responsibility due to what we are capable of doing, literally, able to destroy life on this planet! We are imho the most amazing, and most wicked creature to face the Earth! the only species, that takes pleasure in killing another creature ... you dont get Lions killing for fun.

Anyway, as stated, we all make our own choices.

Amazing and wicked, That is the truth! This world is a fallen world and we need to be very protective of ourselves. I do not go to certain places as it interrupts my peace. Certain people do the same. I like to surround myself with love and God, family and friends. Sometimes I have to step out of this peacefulness to deal with crap with this world but I’m quick to resolve it and get back to a center position where everything is in the moment.
 
Spiritual reasons, and it has helped with my own mental health not being in so many sexual relationships, one night stands, casual sex etc.

I have Asperger's syndrome, so social interactions has always been difficult for me. Not needing to have a romantic relationship, has become a huge weight off my shoulders in all honesty.

I'm not at all lonely, I live with family, and we are all close. I'm dedicated to my spiritual path, but I need allot of improvement, always room for improvement on this path. For example, replacing hatred with love, sounds cheesy, but it is the TRUTH! I need to spend more time meditating on compassion towards others, which I did several years ago, and was allot more kinder inside.

My spiritual path is somewhat mixed to outsiders, but consists of what would be deemed Pagan elements, Mahayana Buddhism, Shamanism, and Spiritualism.

I do have contact with spirits, but dont discuss this out in the open in fear of being attacked by others for my tradition, or being labelled a weirdo. I'm not, trust me.

I'm always wanting to get around to doing more threads in the art of attraction section, but get waylaid with something else. I will get to it soon.

Please be careful where you get info from when going down this path, as about 90% of it is bullshit, and the best material has been from the old sources, the old books you can get.

I want to also add, that no one is controlling us, no world order :) our destiny is already mapped out when we are born to a certain extent, but not permanent ... its a road lets say, from point A when you are born to point Z when you die, but, getting to it, changes depending on how we react to life, decisions, choices we make.

WE are responsible, only WE, for OUR OWN path ... no one else! not accepting this, is a cop out, and not taking on responsibility hence so many conspiracy theories are around, but they are entitled to think as they choose.

Let me tell you now, honestly from the heart ... we, all of us, and the creatures around us, everything, the stars, you name it, are all interconnected .... the only way I can describe this from my own spiritual travels, is, like a hologram, as the entire universe, well life, is, like a hologram in how it works.

I REALLY REALLY want to get something spiritual setup, to combine in with the SRT, as hand on heart, if guys are open minded, and meditate, using visualization, it will greatly benefit the programme.

This is what I did shortly after starting PE, I used to see Ramon from monstersofcock on vids, and pix, so visualized that penis. Of course I was doing a routine, but I had such concrete vision, that once I surpassed his size, I had Shane Diesel ... I reached his stats. It isn't coincidence, and it plays a vital linkup in the mind, planting a seed, manifesting with the already physical work with the routines to acquire new growth.

This is also the secret to all successful occultists, they already know what they desire in ritual will, and has passed, alas it does pass.

So, yeah, I'm sex free :) my sex drive is not low though! guys seem to assume, because I dont have sex for years, my testosterone levels must be low, that is so far from the truth. My levels are above average, and I get desires, have erotic day dreams like anyone else. Just that I can CONTROL myself, I dont need to watch adult entertainment, wank away all day, or engage in sex ... I know, but all that energy is saved for the spiritual work!

If I want a pussy, I'd rather now buy a fleshlight. No fuss, no complications, you get to even choose what you want, and its meant to feel just as good, if not better then the real thing ... did I mention it also doesn't smell, and is clean :)

In the future, I may very well find a lady, fall in love, and engage in sex again. When you love the person, for me, the sex was always better, and meant something. Its different to sex, and fucking.


Not weirdo AT ALL. In fact, science i closer and closer to prove all these things through quantum physics. I have researched some of this stuff for many years, and although I am by no means as advance as you are in spiritualism, I have applied certain techniques into PE for a long time.... Like for example, since I stopped doing adult entertainment, I have used through periods of time my libido as energy. Energy to focus and visualize a goal, exercising towards that goal.

Anybody who would like to get a scientific explanation to all of this, MUST watch the film called "What the Bleep do we know" It'll blow your mind.
 
Amazing and wicked, That is the truth! This world is a fallen world and we need to be very protective of ourselves. I do not go to certain places as it interrupts my peace. Certain people do the same. I like to surround myself with love and God, family and friends. Sometimes I have to step out of this peacefulness to deal with crap with this world but I’m quick to resolve it and get back to a center position where everything is in the moment.

That is wonderful. This world is indeed wicked and fallen. That was the whole purpose to send Jesus here. To steer the civilization off this wrong path. The mission failed. It was too late. Humans literally brutally assassinated a God with no mercy, and labeled his wife as a prostitute. The mission of Jesus was to turn every human to actually be like you. A world of joy, peace, love. No evil.
 
What about natural DHT boosting and optimization? I’ve read lots of things about micro nutrients, good healthy fats, and having insanely high natural hormone levels in combination with intermittent fasting, it should help a little bit don’t you think?

All little things help, as in creating an anabolic environment, androgen receptor sensitivity, circulating lots of DHT and HGH through your system the natural way. Absolutely no steroids because it harms your natural test production.

And if you do hanging in combination with the things I described, it may help a bit right? I mean it is better than having a poor diet, no vitAmins or micro nutrients, etc

What is your length routine? Are you only focussed on length nowadays? What is your length goal? 10 inches?

Short answer, No. It wont help. Hormones, even at high NATURAL levels, will not create the needed environment for extra growth. It will help you with libido, stamina, energy, etc, but it will not promote any growth because that is determined by the instructions encoded in the software (DNA) However, if a pre puberty teenager boost its natural production of all hormones, he might achieve the maximum expression of his genes.

As adults, having a healthy lifestyle and diet with proper supplementation will only fix what is wrong in our society. Nutrition. Specially Americans, have the worst nutritional habits in the planet. The average American eats poison, drinks poison, breath poison and is exposed to poison 24/4 every day of his/her life. This like erectile dysfunction ARE NOT NORMAL. Just a few generations ago there was no viagra and men in their 60's and 70's were having sex and procreating juts a like a 20 year old. Why today guys cant get hard? NUTRITION. In fact, here have been studies. Cant look for them now, but they have proved that the average natural test production of a healthy adult 100 years ago was DOUBLE of what is considered "normal" today. So doing the things you mention like optimizing your natural DHT and HGH levels will only make you a healthy human, but not a super human. And for gene manipulation we need to be superhuman.

And to answer your question, my length goal is one foot. Yes, I am focused only own length right now, experimenting with a new routine and new exercises because my problem from many years ago has been our old beloved Septum. I am testing a few things right now as far as exercise and if I see any sign of breakthrough, I will create a thread and explain for sure.
 
Short answer, No. It wont help. Hormones, even at high NATURAL levels, will not create the needed environment for extra growth. It will help you with libido, stamina, energy, etc, but it will not promote any growth because that is determined by the instructions encoded in the software (DNA) However, if a pre puberty teenager boost its natural production of all hormones, he might achieve the maximum expression of his genes.

As adults, having a healthy lifestyle and diet with proper supplementation will only fix what is wrong in our society. Nutrition. Specially Americans, have the worst nutritional habits in the planet. The average American eats poison, drinks poison, breath poison and is exposed to poison 24/4 every day of his/her life. This like erectile dysfunction ARE NOT NORMAL. Just a few generations ago there was no viagra and men in their 60's and 70's were having sex and procreating juts a like a 20 year old. Why today guys cant get hard? NUTRITION. In fact, here have been studies. Cant look for them now, but they have proved that the average natural test production of a healthy adult 100 years ago was DOUBLE of what is considered "normal" today. So doing the things you mention like optimizing your natural DHT and HGH levels will only make you a healthy human, but not a super human. And for gene manipulation we need to be superhuman.

And to answer your question, my length goal is one foot. Yes, I am focused only own length right now, experimenting with a new routine and new exercises because my problem from many years ago has been our old beloved Septum. I am testing a few things right now as far as exercise and if I see any sign of breakthrough, I will create a thread and explain for sure.

Okay so it will be best to aim for ultra high DHT and test levels anyway because that’s how we as human males are supposed to be... You are right about our grandfathers and great grandfathers having double or even more than double levels of testosterone back in the 50s-60s-70s etc, their balls were also bigger, more semen volume; it was normal. Nowadays our industrialized civilization is wrecking every male hormone, and people aren’t aware of it.

I am totally into nutrition and optimization of my hormonal profile. And I have found an interesting article: andractim 10% DHT gel cycling.

I copied this from a post on another forum:

freepeguide.com/testosterone-penis/ 7, which the author says you should cycle DHT to prevent down regulation. But perhaps I have already been down regulated. Seems to risky to try.

Possibly the best supplement you can use for penis enlargement is Andractim gel. I used this to literally remake my penis. It gets bigger, harder than ever before when I’m on this stuff. The feeling is incredible!

Andractim is actually topical DHT (dihydrotestosterone) - a metabolite of testosterone. DHT is many times stronger than testosterone and has a high affinity for the androgen receptors in penile tissue. It also does not convert to estrogen like testosterone does. So no worries about estrogen related side effects (such as gynecomastia).

I found one study that had 50 males with DHT and placebo. 8 out of the 50 was given the placebo, the remaining 42 received DHT Gel. After 6 months, the males reported bigger erections, painful erections, larger penis, etc. When they surveyed the 42 male partners, the partners stated they want their males to continue the study. Said the increase in sex drive, penis size, etc was worth them staying on it. The next 6 months of the study, no GEL or special mixture - just placebo. The 42 reported no reduction in penis size but sex drive did drop off.

How to use DHT gel for penis enlargement:

The way to use DHT gel successfully is to apply it in cycles. Your body will compensate after a while to the excess DHT by downregulating the androgen receptors making DHT less effective. So what to do? here’s a good way to go:

Start using the DHT gel. One dose applied to the penis every day. You will notice it’s effects within a couple days. Sign are increased sex drive, harder erections, more morning wood, things like that.

Hit your PE routine hard. As long as you feel the positive effects of the DHT gel continue intense PE workouts (usually a few weeks).

When the effects of the DHT gel seem to be wearing off, stop using it. You should also stop the intense workouts. You can keep up a light routine but during this period your letting your body return to normal. Your penis is also healing.

When you feel ready start another cycle. You should let a few weeks go by before you start again. This gives time for the androgen receptors to upregulate back into the penis tissues.

Each cycle of DHT gel should give you measurable gains, as much as 1/4 to 1/2 inch each cycle. After a few cycles these gains really add up!

The only commercially available topical DHT gel is Andractim. You have to fill out an online form when ordering. Don’t state PE as the reason for use! You can state it’s for hormone replacement therapy (if over 45yrs. old) or you have Gyno (bitch tits).

What do you guys think? Seems legit or is it not possible or too high risk?
 
In fact, here have been studies. Cant look for them now, but they have proved that the average natural test production of a healthy adult 100 years ago was DOUBLE of what is considered "normal" today

Its 100% correct. I recall seeing it years ago mentioned on the local news, that our great grandfathers had much higher testosterone levels, and nowadays, men have pretty low levels in comparison.

To blame was several factors incl but not limited to people flushing meds, and contraceptive pills down the toilet, and down the sink, the crap that is sprayed onto crops, and all the chemicals placed into food to keep it so called long lasting.

Sadly, unless you can literally source all your own food, and drink, we are all poisoned now to a certain extent.

Its like, over 70% of the worlds garlic comes from China, and the Chinese wont eat it! they dont eat the food they export, because they know all the filth they deliberately contaminate it with, will fuck them up.





The good thing, is that when our meat suit does die, the spirit doesn't ... we are placed in a void if you will, a place between lives for many, where we can learn from the life, see what needs to be done next.

Some people comeback again, others move on into other dimensions ... this is just one journey of many, and what needs to be added, is other worlds, allot cannot even be seen by humans ... Science is very ignorant, in that it doesn't like to accept things it cannot measure, and they stupidly assume that E.T would be seen, in fact its not visible to us ... humans are too up their own stinking assess to ever comprehend the sheer immense power, scale, and potential the universe has ... its on a massive scale, into limitless dimensions, and realms filled with life ... so much life.

I genuinely know practitioners on the left hand path that have regularly traveled into other realms via ritual, and they are from years of training, discipline able to get to the vibration needed.
These other civilizations can see us, know we are here ... they do influence the world, for good, and for bad.

Some of the work they do on other realms is downright nasty, really dark .. torture, and murder for fun. Then you have more lighter realms, realms of healing.

At the moment all these natural disasters, are the shift in the planes being bridged into our realm .. it will happen within the next 100 years, and this realm will be traversed freely with the others as it was meant to be from the start.

Humans have been kept under the thumb by religion, saying you cant do this, you cant do that, the old grimoires on magic like Solomon's are tainted bullshit, with deliberate contamination by religious zealots so when a practitioner used them, they would summon said spirit, or demon, and be using a name of god that they HATED, so, in turn they would hell on the practitioner in time through misfortune.

I can only recommend less then a handful of genuine groups that do genuine stuff. The rest go off old bullshit grimoires that are, trust me, please believe me, tainted with poison to lead the magician to self ruin, or, simply just increase the practitioners ego, make them feel better over others.

Let me tell you this; not being racist here, but a white man could never be accepted as a Hodoun in Vodou, due to the fact that your very ancestral lineage dictates in this life, what type of path you follow. The spirits in Vodou do not like to work with those not linked directly to them. Be very VERY cautious if you have a fool say they are a fully fledged ordained Voodoo minister, because they wont be. All must go to Haiti for initiation, and non blacks not allowed ... rightfully so, its also one of the most potent magics in this realm because the black people did not allow it to become polluted, and for wannabe practitioners selling themselves out, making money on it.

:) this thread has taken on a life of its own
 
Okay so it will be best to aim for ultra high DHT and test levels anyway because that’s how we as human males are supposed to be... You are right about our grandfathers and great grandfathers having double or even more than double levels of testosterone back in the 50s-60s-70s etc, their balls were also bigger, more semen volume; it was normal. Nowadays our industrialized civilization is wrecking every male hormone, and people aren’t aware of it.

I am totally into nutrition and optimization of my hormonal profile. And I have found an interesting article: andractim 10% DHT gel cycling.

I copied this from a post on another forum:

freepeguide.com/testosterone-penis/ 7, which the author says you should cycle DHT to prevent down regulation. But perhaps I have already been down regulated. Seems to risky to try.

Possibly the best supplement you can use for penis enlargement is Andractim gel. I used this to literally remake my penis. It gets bigger, harder than ever before when I’m on this stuff. The feeling is incredible!

Andractim is actually topical DHT (dihydrotestosterone) - a metabolite of testosterone. DHT is many times stronger than testosterone and has a high affinity for the androgen receptors in penile tissue. It also does not convert to estrogen like testosterone does. So no worries about estrogen related side effects (such as gynecomastia).

I found one study that had 50 males with DHT and placebo. 8 out of the 50 was given the placebo, the remaining 42 received DHT Gel. After 6 months, the males reported bigger erections, painful erections, larger penis, etc. When they surveyed the 42 male partners, the partners stated they want their males to continue the study. Said the increase in sex drive, penis size, etc was worth them staying on it. The next 6 months of the study, no GEL or special mixture - just placebo. The 42 reported no reduction in penis size but sex drive did drop off.

How to use DHT gel for penis enlargement:

The way to use DHT gel successfully is to apply it in cycles. Your body will compensate after a while to the excess DHT by downregulating the androgen receptors making DHT less effective. So what to do? here’s a good way to go:

Start using the DHT gel. One dose applied to the penis every day. You will notice it’s effects within a couple days. Sign are increased sex drive, harder erections, more morning wood, things like that.

Hit your PE routine hard. As long as you feel the positive effects of the DHT gel continue intense PE workouts (usually a few weeks).

When the effects of the DHT gel seem to be wearing off, stop using it. You should also stop the intense workouts. You can keep up a light routine but during this period your letting your body return to normal. Your penis is also healing.

When you feel ready start another cycle. You should let a few weeks go by before you start again. This gives time for the androgen receptors to upregulate back into the penis tissues.

Each cycle of DHT gel should give you measurable gains, as much as 1/4 to 1/2 inch each cycle. After a few cycles these gains really add up!

The only commercially available topical DHT gel is Andractim. You have to fill out an online form when ordering. Don’t state PE as the reason for use! You can state it’s for hormone replacement therapy (if over 45yrs. old) or you have Gyno (bitch tits).

What do you guys think? Seems legit or is it not possible or too high risk?

Does the author of that article cite the source of that study? I would like to see that source with specific measurements, age, etc. There are too many factors involved.
 
This is a really brilliant free flowing open thread ... thats what it is :) I gave it a moment, if I should split it up into another thread, but then I thought leave it as ... maybe a new title to suggest all the stuff we're harping on about (xd)
 
Does the author of that article cite the source of that study? I would like to see that source with specific measurements, age, etc. There are too many factors involved.

Unfortunately that link is broken, and I cannot find that study. The website was from an andractim seller though. Blog and website are gone. I have to research how those things really work with DHT receptor downregulation etc, but trannies are getting DHT gel prescriptions and they are growing cocks and they’re getting surgey, so there must be some hidden knowledge and secrets.
 
Unfortunately that link is broken, and I cannot find that study. The website was from an andractim seller though. Blog and website are gone. I have to research how those things really work with DHT receptor downregulation etc, but trannies are getting DHT gel prescriptions and they are growing cocks and they’re getting surgey, so there must be some hidden knowledge and secrets.

Ive read thats bullshit though. Trannies are NOT growing cocks. Theyre just enlarging their clits through hormones but that clit will never grow beyond a couple of inches.

Just look at it this way. In adult entertainment you can find EVERYTHING. In fact, today adult entertainment of "straight" guys fucking trannies with dicks is a huge thing. IF IT WAS TRUE, that ex women are growing dicks, I GUARANTEE you that would be a huge new thing in adult entertainment. But is not because it doesn't exist.
 
Ive read thats bullshit though. Trannies are NOT growing cocks. Theyre just enlarging their clits through hormones but that clit will never grow beyond a couple of inches.

Just look at it this way. In adult entertainment you can find EVERYTHING. In fact, today adult entertainment of "straight" guys fucking trannies with dicks is a huge thing. IF IT WAS TRUE, that ex women are growing dicks, I GUARANTEE you that would be a huge new thing in adult entertainment. But is not because it doesn't exist.

I have just read your other topics where you answered questions for that dude who tried adractim gel 12% and failed miserably. His balls shrunk etc, he’s trying to recover. Well you are completely right about the nutrition part. I am eating organic eggs, liver , grasfed butter, and hearts, kidneys, the organ meats contain the animal derived vitamin A, the true natural bodybuilding muscle hormone. And natural carb sources, veggies and all that stuff, a true DHT diet where I watch for 5α-reductase inhibitors etc, so yea it’s really true that one need the right nutrition.

I wanted to try the DHT gel, but it’s better to just stay healthy and not messing with my hormones. I did a steroid cycle of testosterone enanthate back in 2014 and never completely recovered, loss of libido, semen volume decreased, testicular atrophy.

And now i’m trying to get everything back, I want my body to be before I ever did steroids... I had a very high libido and could cum and have sex lots of times, but now after 2 times i’m done. Also having problems with the erection, morning wood, and i’m teying everything natural to just regain my sexual potency. I was 22 years old when I did that cycle and gained nothing. Now i’m 26 years old. I did a standard hcg along with the cycle 2x500 IU per week or something and after coming off I waited two weeks for the hormone test-E which was clearing out of my body. After that I started pct with nolvadex only, but I didn’t eat right, I completely fucked it up.

So the nolvadex was 4-5 weeks or so, 40mg ea per day but after that I didn’t do anything. So you give me hope there isn’t permanent damage in the leydig cells and follicle cells etc.

What baffles my mind is the fact that I ate a standard westernized diet with lots of bread and gluten , pastas, growing up and I still had insane hormone levels and libido going through the roof, even though I ate shit, lots of fat snacks also, sweets, soda, I gained a lot of weight in my puberty and I was 70 pounds overweight. I cut that down to being 55 pounds overweight nowadays...

I also loved and still love meat. I ate pork,
Beef , chicken, lots of it, and veggies fruits, and tons of bread, nothing organic and I still managed to have insane high libido levels, even after puberty that remained until I did my steroid cycle ???? girls commented on my testicle size, they were small as fuck, I was embarrassed ?

So yea it was very stupid to just rely on the advice of my gym buddies who pinned trenbolone and did all kinds of cycles, multiple cycles and recovered 100% completely, no side effects, no libido, ball size loss, or semen volume loss.

The human body is extremely complex, and I am curious to know how high my hormones would be if I ate 100% organically, with all the DHT diet recommendations, and the right kind of supplements/ antioxidants

Maybe my true potential gene expression was reached, I still believe I left gains behind in my puberty years, being overweight, eating bad diet, environmental factors. It depresses me.

I’m now just going the 100% natural route and I was my old sexual performance back.
 
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