understood. based on increases in a matter of week periods, what would a reasonable "optimal growth rate" be?
Optimal growth rate can be visually observed, and part of that which cannot be. For visually observable, it's around 0.25in per 4 to 6 months. Cementing of permanent gain accounts for the 8th to 9th month mark. That's optimal. However, there are hidden gains that cannot be observed. It will suddenly pops out of the blue along with what's observable. It can be as little as 0.15in to as much as 1in. This has been documented over and over again. So, you can gain as much as 1.25in within 6 to 8 months out of the blue. You may not see any gain at all for 6 months, and all of a sudden, a gain that baffles your mind.
Taking into a spread of a 100 PE journeymen, the spread average of optimal growth is as little as 0.15in for a 6 months period to as optimal as 1.25in. Yes, that is a massive difference in the spread, but we are not exactly the same in physiological condition going from one brother to the next.
since my typical PE program involves manual stretches, pumping and now light
hanging- any suggestion on the order of exercises. i usually manually stretch first, pump and then hang. Thinking since i primarily want to focus on length gains, first anyways, perhaps
hanging followed by stretching then pumping might yield the most efficient growth. Thoughts?
If you care to share more details about your historical background in terms of genetic, the tallest vs the shortest member of your 5 generations, the health history (healthiest vs the sickest and strongest vs weakest), your current best gains vs your worst gains (which is 0 or even shrinkage), we can do a trend analysis for routine approaches.
For now, based on all the collected discussions going in blind, my suggestion is 10 minutes of manual stretches doing light work to warm the tissues, light
hanging while keeping the tissues warm, follows by 10 to 30 minutes of manual works with moderate intensity without going into the high intensity for observation, follows by pumping for a whole week or at least two cycles with rest.
The following 2 cycles or a whole week, switch up with moderate routine with touches of higher moderate-high intensities.
And then repeat over with the two interswitching method for just 2 months. Observe, note, observe, note. See how your tissues response to different approaches. If this is favorable, keep at it. If not, we can come up with a shorter attack route through light-moderate and then moderate-high within a short burst cycle in a week period. We can break the body adaptive mode.
also one of the big changes i've started is bundled stretches... not the most efficient yet but seems to be critical step for stretching tunica and length gains. end with wrapping for passive stretching ofcourse.
Exactly. As we have discussed, bundled stretches using the contortion stress loading is essential. Twisting one direction to the max and hold it there, even place stress loads during a light pull, will generate phenomenal workout.
By the way, I'm trying something now using generic gardening equipment. I talked to the brothers in PE I'm working with in the field using cheap flexible tape wraps while employing cheap garden variety equipment to mimick the more expensive tools. I have to head home and dust off those materials and I will get back to the brothers. We've been so busy and not able to get to the lab to do structural and material testing for silicone molding and material forming. If it all goes well, we may have good news for the brothers to use as alternatives devices without breaking the banks.
