Progress thread Tommy Gun's Journey

[Tommy Gun]

I measured today and my updated stats are,
BPFL: 20.5 CM
BPEL: 18.5 CM
EG: 14.5 CM
My starting stats were,
BPFL: 19 CM
BPEL: 17.1 CM
EG: 13.3 CM

 

[Tommy Gun]

What I'm noticing is I'm making gains in flaccid length much faster than erect.
A few theories and a few fixes.
For starters, I started taking finasteride a few months back. And it wrecked my sex drive.
I encourage all brothers to never touch that shit if you can help it. I'm in my mid 20s so I wasn't ready to lose my hair. But it fucked with my erection quality for over a month and I'm finally feeling back to normal.
With that being said. I still did length routines almost daily. Maybe 2-3 days off a month (not intentionally).
But my EQ was so poor I could barely do girth work.

So how do I fix this?
First, stop taking finasteride. Id rather be bald with a big dick that works than have a head of hair but can't use my dick cause the drug screws with my libido so much.
Second, since my EQ is back to normal now I'll do DLD hard-core bathmate stretches in the mityvac 3-5 times a week.
I need to close the gap on my BPFL and BPEL and I think this is the best way to do it.
I think EQ is king when it comes to making gains and keeping them.
Comes back to the old saying if you don't use it you lose it!
Wish me luck!

 

[DLD]

What I'm noticing is I'm making gains in flaccid length much faster than erect.
A few theories and a few fixes.
For starters, I started taking finasteride a few months back. And it wrecked my sex drive.
I encourage all brothers to never touch that shit if you can help it. I'm in my mid 20s so I wasn't ready to lose my hair. But it fucked with my erection quality for over a month and I'm finally feeling back to normal.
With that being said. I still did length routines almost daily. Maybe 2-3 days off a month (not intentionally).
But my EQ was so poor I could barely do girth work.

So how do I fix this?
First, stop taking finasteride. Id rather be bald with a big dick that works than have a head of hair but can't use my dick cause the drug screws with my libido so much.
Second, since my EQ is back to normal now I'll do DLD hard-core bathmate stretches in the mityvac 3-5 times a week.
I need to close the gap on my BPFL and BPEL and I think this is the best way to do it.
I think EQ is king when it comes to making gains and keeping them.
Comes back to the old saying if you don't use it you lose it!
Wish me luck!

Today generic viagra is so cheap and THE BEST supplement for pe and sex. There is no tolerance issues and the price can be so cheap you can take it daily. The side effects are really nothing at all. I took it for years and it truly benefitted me.

Don't sweat hair loss bald is the new sexy. A big dick and a bald head will get you all the women you want. Be you with confidence!

 

[DLD]

Mr DLD, that’s bad advice to tell someone to take Viagra (Sildenafil) daily without knowing his medical history. There are Mild to Severe side effects to Viagra. Some guys, don’t have an issue with it such as you claimed for yourself. Others experience, headaches, dizziness, blurry vision, nausea.

It can cause severe problems if you have heart disease or taken with certain medications.

If he never taken it daily he needs to note any physical negative side effects.

He will have to be prescribed by a doctor

 

[DLD]

It's advisible, but you can purchase Viagra off the internet like you're ordering a bag of candy

You should not purchase any medication without a doctors orders

 

[Tommy Gun]

Today generic viagra is so cheap and THE BEST supplement for pe and sex. There is no tolerance issues and the price can be so cheap you can take it daily. The side effects are really nothing at all. I took it for years and it truly benefitted me.

Don't sweat hair loss bald is the new sexy. A big dick and a bald head will get you all the women you want. Be you with confidence!

Thanks man! I appreciate the support.
I started taking cialis 5mg daily first thing in the morning. I think good things will be coming in the future for me with PE

 

[Tommy Gun]

It's advisible, but you can purchase Viagra off the internet like you're ordering a bag of candy

I agree its not safe to take any medication without running it by your doctor first.
I got bloodwork done and he gave me the green light to start taking what I am now

 

[DLD]

That is what some guys say after the fact...

Glad I'm not some guys

 

[DLD]

Thanks man! I appreciate the support.
I started taking cialis 5mg daily first thing in the morning. I think good things will be coming in the future for me with PE

You are so welcome! If you need anything more let us know

 

[Tommy Gun]

I finished my length routine earlier today and I just wanted to stress the importance of having a heat source during your sessions.
It makes a world of a difference.
I measured my BPFL before my session and after...
20 minutes later I was almost 1.5cm longer!
Strapped on my SS to try to retain as much of it as possible.
I don't use anything crazy. I use an infrared heat pad for a 10 minute warmup.
Then during my LM session I have a space heater in front of me the whole time.
I keep it at medium heat which is enough to give me a sweat while I'm working out and is obviously helping me get even more elongated.
Any brother that isn't using a heat source is missing out because I feel like this combined with the LM it feels like cheating how easy length comes.

 

[DLD]

When Lightning created the MOSRED it was a dream come true. i always used heat from day one. the MOSRED makes it so easy

https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/mos-red-light-for-healing-and-erection-quality

 

[VoorheesXIII]

I'm pretty much doing exactly the same, 10 to 15 minutes in front of the Red/NiR to get everything pliable & a little fan heater to keep my bathroom warm (it's winter in Australia) while I do my stretching with the LengthMaster, only way to go if you can.

 

[DLD]

I'm pretty much doing exactly the same, 10 to 15 minutes in front of the Red/NiR to get everything pliable & a little fan heater to keep my bathroom warm (it's winter in Australia) while I do my stretching with the LengthMaster, only way to go if you can.

This is why I suggest the MOSRED to everyone

https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/mos-red-light-for-healing-and-erection-quality

 

[VoorheesXIII]

Sorry to side track your thread Tommy.

Hey DLD, have you considered doing affiliate work with a therapy light distributor? I know the light box is already a part of the shop but there are so many variations out there now, masks, gloves, bendable/wrappable pads, even stuff for pets! Would make sense to stock items of varying price points for people. An example of what I'm talking about ⬇⬇⬇
And again, sorry for hijacking the thread, I'll post some more stuff in the appropriate threads.

 

[DLD]

Sorry to side track your thread Tommy.

Hey DLD, have you considered doing affiliate work with a therapy light distributor? I know the light box is already a part of the shop but there are so many variations out there now, masks, gloves, bendable/wrappable pads, even stuff for pets! Would make sense to stock items of varying price points for people. An example of what I'm talking about ⬇⬇⬇
And again, sorry for hijacking the thread, I'll post some more stuff in the appropriate threads.

I am not allowed to offer products nor the community without permission from mos but if you have some good ideas pass them on to the staff at sales@mattersofsize.com

I have a few I am interested in also but waiting to hear back from them. They are strict due to spam and I can understand that after all the brotherhood has gone through with spam and hacks

I think there is a forum where products we use can be posted. Check the forum list.

 

[VoorheesXIII]

Shall do, I blacked out the branding in the pic as I wasn't too sure where that falls in line with forum rules.

 

[DLD]

Shall do, I blacked out the branding in the pic as I wasn't too sure where that falls in line with forum rules.

Be sure to send your ideas to mos

 

[Tommy Gun]

I'm going to update with the routines that I've done so far and what I'm currently doing.
I started out with the newbie routine with the LM.
Doing behind the cheeks, straight down, straight out, etc.
Doing all directions for 3 sets of 30 seconds.
I did that for my first 3 months.
Then I felt like my gains were starting to plateau.
I gained and cemented 1/2 inch in erect length so I was happy with that gain.
But to see if I had truly maxed out this routine I started measuring stretched flaccid length before and after the routine.
I confirmed that I had in fact maxed out gains. No increase in stretched flaccid length afterwards. Even tho I was pulling with all my might.
Now that doesn't mean it doesn't work. Like I just said I gained a full 1/2 inch in a short time.
But my body adapted so I needed something more.

 

[Tommy Gun]

My current routine is simple yet effective.
@huge-girth recommended bundled downward stretches with the LM.
3 sets of 20 minutes.
I think we can all agree thats alot of volume!
So just like working out you want to start slow and build up.
Right now I only do one 20 minute session of downward bundles.
And so far I'm gaining with just that!
No need to add more stretching until gains are exhausted with just the 20 minute session.
I imagine that will happen within the next month or 2 and I will then add 1 more set so 40 minutes total of active stretching.
I then put on the SS and wear anywhere from 4-8 hours at a medium intensity.
I also sleep with it on at the lowest tension possible.
When I sleep I'm more so trying to make sure I don't turtle.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Now for girth.
I currently do mityvac hard-core stretches Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
I get this is also a length routine but when you're pulling on the pump its going to get to a high pressure.
I see it as a double edged sword because you will get length and girth out of this exercise.
You're getting so much from it.
Length, girth, and erect expressive stretching.
The fastest way to cement your gains.
If I'm really feelin' froggy I also do the 5×5×3 routine later in the evening.
So either way I'm in the pump for some kind of exercise 7 days a week.
I might take a day off if my EQ isn't there but for the most part it is.
I'll be doing this routine probably for the rest of the year because I love seeing the potential of what my dick will look like.
Its like getting a pump at the gym. You're seeing how big you could be.
Has anyone else done the hard-core stretches?
If so, how were your results?

 

[Tommy Gun]

So, you're getting your dick sucked 7 days a week while during PE - L O L

That's one way of putting it

 

[DLD]

That's one way of putting it

Nice

 

[the boss!]

What I'm noticing is I'm making gains in flaccid length much faster than erect.
A few theories and a few fixes.
For starters, I started taking finasteride a few months back. And it wrecked my sex drive.
I encourage all brothers to never touch that shit if you can help it. I'm in my mid 20s so I wasn't ready to lose my hair. But it fucked with my erection quality for over a month and I'm finally feeling back to normal.
With that being said. I still did length routines almost daily. Maybe 2-3 days off a month (not intentionally).
But my EQ was so poor I could barely do girth work.

So how do I fix this?
First, stop taking finasteride. Id rather be bald with a big dick that works than have a head of hair but can't use my dick cause the drug screws with my libido so much.
Second, since my EQ is back to normal now I'll do DLD hard-core bathmate stretches in the mityvac 3-5 times a week.
I need to close the gap on my BPFL and BPEL and I think this is the best way to do it.
I think EQ is king when it comes to making gains and keeping them.
Comes back to the old saying if you don't use it you lose it!
Wish me luck!

My brother I’m in your same position my BPFL is 19 cm and my NBPFL is like 16cm, and NBPEL is like 14cm.

Hopefully this year we’ll close that freaking gap!

Also by the way congrats on your gains, way to go!

And also is that you who made the length master wrapping video, cause if it is you that shit is awesome! Although I’ve tried never seems to work for me

@DLD ANY SUGGESTIONS ?

https://imgur.com/a/WLJYg0O

Since I have quite the experience with manual stretching, only once I was able to get a decent wrapping and grip with the LM and feel something I haven’t felt with hands or my penimaster which I tiff and it feels good.

I’m talking I felt my inner dick being stretch like never before, it was kinda painful but it felt good, I had stop though cause the pressure of the thug was being placed in my glans, to the point that it was hurting so much more than the stretch itself.

 

[the boss!]

That's one way of putting it

Am I the only missing those comments? Haha of the blowjob part ? Haha

 

[Tommy Gun]

My brother I’m in your same position my BPFL is 19 cm and my NBPFL is like 16cm, and NBPEL is like 14cm.

Hopefully this year we’ll close that freaking gap!

Also by the way congrats on your gains, way to go!

And also is that you who made the length master wrapping video, cause if it is you that shit is awesome! Although I’ve tried never seems to work for me

@DLD ANY SUGGESTIONS ?

https://imgur.com/a/WLJYg0O

Since I have quite the experience with manual stretching, only once I was able to get a decent wrapping and grip with the LM and feel something I haven’t felt with hands or my penimaster which I tiff and it feels good.

I’m talking I felt my inner dick being stretch like never before, it was kinda painful but it felt good, I had stop though cause the pressure of the thug was being placed in my glans, to the point that it was hurting so much more than the stretch itself.

Thanks man!
It wasn't me who made the wrapping technique video but I do utilize wrapping techniques made from other members.
What works for me is putting some baby powder on my dick. Then wrapping the thera band around mid shaft. Then wrapping the athletic tape (beige color) 8 times around.
Thats all I do then tighten it as much as I can. Wait about 10 seconds once I think I'm all the way tight. Relax, then tighten again.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Am I the only missing those comments? Haha of the blowjob part ? Haha

We were talking about how I use a pump everyday.
But yea I get plenty of blowjobs from the ladies throughout the week too haha

 

[the boss!]

Thanks man!
It wasn't me who made the wrapping technique video but I do utilize wrapping techniques made from other members.
What works for me is putting some baby powder on my dick. Then wrapping the thera band around mid shaft. Then wrapping the athletic tape (beige color) 8 times around.
Thats all I do then tighten it as much as I can. Wait about 10 seconds once I think I'm all the way tight. Relax, then tighten again.

Ohhh ok I like that technique I’ll try that. HOPEFULLY it will work for me

 

[DLD]

Flaccid stretch comes Bellmore erect length. That gap is normal abd a map to your next realized size. Erect Stretching is the best way to close the gap

 

[the boss!]

Flaccid stretch comes Bellmore erect length. That gap is normal abd a map to your next realized size. Erect Stretching is the best way to close the gap

Little tip next time your on your extender (suction extender) get erected and stretch there haha.


also you can put a ring at the bottom, you get also like the mini effect of squash jelqs.

I have penimaster so I get a huge fucking compresión with a super tight ring and the glans suction, my middle portion looks huge.

@DLD hope those maps become a reality soon! At least of quarter of an inch in erect size and I’ll be super excited cause I never gained from that department before

 

[Tommy Gun]

My brother I’m in your same position my BPFL is 19 cm and my NBPFL is like 16cm, and NBPEL is like 14cm.

Hopefully this year we’ll close that freaking gap!

Also by the way congrats on your gains, way to go!

And also is that you who made the length master wrapping video, cause if it is you that shit is awesome! Although I’ve tried never seems to work for me

@DLD ANY SUGGESTIONS ?

https://imgur.com/a/WLJYg0O

Since I have quite the experience with manual stretching, only once I was able to get a decent wrapping and grip with the LM and feel something I haven’t felt with hands or my penimaster which I tiff and it feels good.

I’m talking I felt my inner dick being stretch like never before, it was kinda painful but it felt good, I had stop though cause the pressure of the thug was being placed in my glans, to the point that it was hurting so much more than the stretch itself.

Have you tried bundled stretches in the LM?
I feel like that would prevent alot of the excess skin from going forward.
Wrap lower to the base, twist 360⁰ and see if that fixes it

 

[Tommy Gun]

Quick update.
I measured ONLY BPEL and I am officially at 7.5 inches
I'm in the process of moving apartments so my schedule has been inconsistent with routines.
The one thing I made sure I did over the past month was at least wear my ADS for 6-8 hours.
Especially if I wasn't able to do any manual work.
I feel like that at least maintained my BPSFL.
As far as my routine going forward I'm upping the volume.
I'll now do 2×20 minute sessions of downward bundled stretches in the LM.
The plan is to do 1×20 then put my ADS on for 2-3 hours.
Then another 1×20, put ADS on for 2-3 hours.

 

[VoorheesXIII]

That's awesome Tommy Gun! Super stoked for you . Nothing like stoking the fires of motivation with some forward progress! Ride that high, you deserve it.

 

[DLD]

That's awesome Tommy Gun! Super stoked for you . Nothing like stoking the fires of motivation with some forward progress! Ride that high, you deserve it.

Ride that inspiration into future growth

 

[Tommy Gun]

That's awesome Tommy Gun! Super stoked for you . Nothing like stoking the fires of motivation with some forward progress! Ride that high, you deserve it.

Thanks man!
Next goal for me is to hit the fabled 8 inches
I'm not putting a time frame on it but I think I can get it done by the new year hopefully

 

[DLD]

Thanks man!
Next goal for me is to hit the fabled 8 inches
I'm not putting a time frame on it but I think I can get it done by the new year hopefully

8 is the best number to shoot for. 3 inches above average!

 

[Tommy Gun]

Hitting the thread to still show activity.
I know dld talks about how length and girth compliment eachother.
If you gain length you'll gain some girth and vice versa.
I've noticed when I do my bundled stretches in the LM my flaccid girth (and length obviously) is noticeably bigger than before starting.
I didnt notice this the first few months but now I do.
Maybe its because its the summer so its warmer, the fact that my tunica is getting the shit beat out of it on a daily basis, etc.
Just a cool thing I noticed of how everything is tying together and makes more sense to me the more sessions I get under my belt.

 

[DLD]

Hitting the thread to still show activity.
I know dld talks about how length and girth compliment eachother.
If you gain length you'll gain some girth and vice versa.
I've noticed when I do my bundled stretches in the LM my flaccid girth (and length obviously) is noticeably bigger than before starting.
I didnt notice this the first few months but now I do.
Maybe its because its the summer so its warmer, the fact that my tunica is getting the shit beat out of it on a daily basis, etc.
Just a cool thing I noticed of how everything is tying together and makes more sense to me the more sessions I get under my belt.

Glad to see you updating.

 

[Tommy Gun]

So the space heater that I had is no longer with me.
Would you guys recommend to get another space heater for sessions or red light / NIR therapy instead?
Whats your take @Di Ablo ?

 

[DLD]

So the space heater that I had is no longer with me.
Would you guys recommend to get another space heater for sessions or red light / NIR therapy instead?
Whats your take @Di Ablo ?

Grab an MosRed. Lifetime warranty with awesome results

 

[Tommy Gun]

Grab an MosRed. Lifetime warranty with awesome results

The MoSRed is out of stock unfortunately

 

[DLD]

The MoSRed is out of stock unfortunately

Really? That stinks

 

[DLD]

Really? That stinks

Just got an email, they will be back in stock any day

 

[Tommy Gun]

Its been awhile but here's my update.
Finally moved apartments so I went roughly 3-4 weeks without any PE.
So bad news is that I didn't make any new gains (obviously).
Good news is, I retained 100% of the gains I have made!
BPSFL, BPEL, EG, etc. They are all cemented

Going forward.
My routine will be,
10 minutes under RED/NIR light.
20 minutes downward bundled stretches (L/R/C)
10 minutes under RED/NIR light.
Wear ADS medium tension for 2-3 hours.
10 minute warmup in infrared heat pad.
20 minutes downward bundled stretches (L/R/C)
10 minute cooldown in infrared heat pad.
Wear ADS medium tension for another 2-3 hours.

I'm going to do this for the entire month of October, no days off, and report back at the start of November.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Ok so being consistent is paying off.
Currently chilling in my SS after my first session this morning and my ligs are so fatigued.
Which is good! Like @DLD says the only negative you'll get to intense stretching routine is lower EQ.
Which is ok right now for me. I get it will take time for my body to realize this is what's happening and to adjust so for the time being I'm enjoying stretching the ligs and actually feeling it happen.
Gives much more incentive to keep going when you can actually feel what you're doing is working.

 

[DLD]

Ok so being consistent is paying off.
Currently chilling in my SS after my first session this morning and my ligs are so fatigued.
Which is good! Like @DLD says the only negative you'll get to intense stretching routine is lower EQ.
Which is ok right now for me. I get it will take time for my body to realize this is what's happening and to adjust so for the time being I'm enjoying stretching the ligs and actually feeling it happen.
Gives much more incentive to keep going when you can actually feel what you're doing is working.

Fatigue is worth the eq issues as they are temporary while gains are permanent

 

[Tommy Gun]

Ok so I need some advice.
On days where I'm limited to PE does it make more sense to do my 1×20 minute downward bundled stretches then ADS for 3-4 hours?
Or do 1×20, ADS for an hour, then another 1×20 then ADS for 1-2 hours?
Basically what the best approach if I only have 3-4 hours max to do my sessions?
@huge-girth what do you think? You have alot of experience with the LM

 

[huge-girth]

My major concern is why you are limiting your ADS use to 3 to 4 hours. You should wrap your penis all day from morning till bed time. The only time you should remove the sleeve or ace bandage is when you want to pee or sleep.

20mins session is good on such busy days. You can as well do two 20mins session if you have the time. But make sure ADS is from morning till bed time.

Healing in an elongated state is as important as your session itself.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Updated wrapping for the LM.
I now put on a sleeve first. I think its a duro sleeve. It is a little tighter on me and thats what I'm going for.
The reason for the sleeve first is it reduces your chance of wrinkles in your wrapping technique to 0%
Next I get athletic bandage and wrap around mid shaft about 8 times.
This also prevents any abrasion from the LM that could possibly damage your sleeve.
I've been doing this for about a week and I'll say its working quite well for me.
I feel like my grip is tighter and more secure so going forward I'm going to stick to this.

 

[Alhuwaidi]

beautiful and coordinated

 

[DLD]

Consistently wins always