SUPER BOWL: Your thoughts and predictions

Okay, no explanation needed. We, as men, just have to do this one.

What are your thoughts about the Steelers vs. the Seahawks for Super Bowl XL?
 
As a Pittsburgher and bigtime Steeler fan, I am obviously rooting for the Steelers.

The Steelers seemed to be underestimated by everyone throughout most of the regular seasons this year. When Ben was hurt during a couple times this year, the went into overtime and then lost against both Jacksonville and Baltimore. For whatever reason, Tommy Maddox was so awful in those games that clearly the Steelers would have won them even with a subpar performance from Roethlisberger. The Steelers were basically almost a 13-3 team when you take that into account. Their defense has just terrorized opposing QBs, covered receivers like a blanket, and contained the run in recent weeks.

Unfortunately, I didn't get much chance to watch the Seahawks this year. I saw them almost lose one at San Francisco and just manage to beat a mediocre Cowboys team. Yet, they just bitch-slapped Carolina senseless last night. Granted, Carolina was without any running game and had a banged-up defense, but it was brutal by any account. Clearly, the NFC is a weaker conference this year, all-round. Clearly, the Seahawks were almost given a 6-0 start by playing in what may be the worst division in football. Still, I am a little worried and I hope the Steeler coaching staff doesn't take them lightly.

I'll have to do more analysis for a prediction.
 
The Seahawks weren't really even tested when they played the Panthers. You could tell the Panthers werent as fired up and werent as prepared as the Seahawks. If they played before Chicago/Carolina game, Panthers could of won.

Seattle stopped Panthers only weapon, Steve Smith. Without Smith, of course Seattle will win easily, especially with a defense playing at 75% and a hurt Julius Peppers.

I dont think Seattle will be prepared to handle Steelers high powered offense and smasHydromaxouth run game. Nor will Seattle be able to handle the Pittsburgh Blitz. Seattle got pressure on Delhomme with just the front 4, sometimes 5. Ben Roethlisberger will be much better protected than that.

Steelers are superb at stoppin the run and their secondary has had much improvments. The game and the blitz pressure will be on Matt Hasselbeck and i dont think he can handle it. Not like Ben can. Seattle isnt even very good at the blitz.

I bet Cincinnati, Indianapolis or Denver would tear up the Seahawks, and Pittsburgh dominated all those teams. Any AFC playoff team could beat the #1 NFC team hands down.
 
penguinsfan said:
Okay, no explanation needed. We, as men, just have to do this one.

What are your thoughts about the Steelers vs. the Seahawks for Super Bowl XL?

Well, I've decided it isn't going to be the Penguins! But having said that, I'm definitely going for the Pittsburg Steelers. They're just ornery enough to pull it off.
 
outta curiosity, does anybody have money riding on the game? or going to?

Steelers are favored by 4 points for the game

......and 1.5 points at the half
 
I don't think it's a good bet, in my opinion. I suspect that the Steelers are more likely to blowout the Seahawks than the Seahawks would be to blowout the Steelers. However, as someone that has seen far more AFC matchups this year, I'm just not comfortable assessing the Seahawks against good competition.
 
penguinsfan said:
I don't think it's a good bet, in my opinion. I suspect that the Steelers are more likely to blowout the Seahawks than the Seahawks would be to blowout the Steelers. However, as someone that has seen far more AFC matchups this year, I'm just not comfortable assessing the Seahawks against good competition.


so why wouldnt it be a good bet? if the steelers are likely to blowout the seahawks then it would be a good bet. if the steelers win by 5 points or more, you win.
 
anti-pop said:
The Seahawks weren't really even tested when they played the Panthers. You could tell the Panthers werent as fired up and werent as prepared as the Seahawks. If they played before Chicago/Carolina game, Panthers could of won.

Seattle stopped Panthers only weapon, Steve Smith. Without Smith, of course Seattle will win easily, especially with a defense playing at 75% and a hurt Julius Peppers.

I dont think Seattle will be prepared to handle Steelers high powered offense and smasHydromaxouth run game. Nor will Seattle be able to handle the Pittsburgh Blitz. Seattle got pressure on Delhomme with just the front 4, sometimes 5. Ben Roethlisberger will be much better protected than that.

Steelers are superb at stoppin the run and their secondary has had much improvments. The game and the blitz pressure will be on Matt Hasselbeck and i dont think he can handle it. Not like Ben can. Seattle isnt even very good at the blitz.

I bet Cincinnati, Indianapolis or Denver would tear up the Seahawks, and Pittsburgh dominated all those teams. Any AFC playoff team could beat the #1 NFC team hands down.



Fact- Cinncy beat Pitt on Dec 4, 38 to 31. Mon Nov 28th Pitt got spanked by the Colts 26-7. So don't put Pitt up on a pedestal, there not that good. They seem to go through streakes of greatness, and streaks of being just average. They got lucky that the Colts did not return the fumble by Bettis for a touchdown. The recoverer made an awful decision by not trying to beat Big Ben to the sidelines. Then on top of that Vanderjack missed a FG to tie. Pitt is freaking lucky that they are still in it.


I got two players that will and can stop Pitts run and pass game. Grant Wistrom and Bryce Fisher. These guys have motors that just don't stop. Michael Boulware is young smart and can play SS great for his experience level.

On the other side of the ball, you have Alexander the great, nuff said. Hasselbeck is under-rated IMO. If Engram and Jackson can't get open, look Joe Jurevicius can make big plays at important times. Oh and there O-line is the best in the biz.

Big Ben is a good QB, not as prolific as Matt has been this year. Bettis and Parker will be stoped by the D-Line. That will force Big Ben to hit Ward and Randel-El. That is when Wistrom and Fisher come in to play. If they don't get him look out for Lofa Tatupu to come in and blast Ben.

IMO the Steelers can't match up point for point against this Seahawks team. I don't see it. The Greatest show on turf moved to the northwest. Its the Birds year. I feel it!

Then this is coming from a NFC west Fan. Go Rams!
 
crazyed27 said:
Fact- Cinncy beat Pitt on Dec 4, 38 to 31. Mon Nov 28th Pitt got spanked by the Colts 26-7. So don't put Pitt up on a pedestal, there not that good. They seem to go through streakes of greatness, and streaks of being just average. They got lucky that the Colts did not return the fumble by Bettis for a touchdown. The recoverer made an awful decision by not trying to beat Big Ben to the sidelines. Then on top of that Vanderjack missed a FG to tie. Pitt is freaking lucky that they are still in it.


I got two players that will and can stop Pitts run and pass game. Grant Wistrom and Bryce Fisher. These guys have motors that just don't stop. Michael Boulware is young smart and can play SS great for his experience level.

On the other side of the ball, you have Alexander the great, nuff said. Hasselbeck is under-rated IMO. If Engram and Jackson can't get open, look Joe Jurevicius can make big plays at important times. Oh and there O-line is the best in the biz.

Big Ben is a good QB, not as prolific as Matt has been this year. Bettis and Parker will be stoped by the D-Line. That will force Big Ben to hit Ward and Randel-El. That is when Wistrom and Fisher come in to play. If they don't get him look out for Lofa Tatupu to come in and blast Ben.

IMO the Steelers can't match up point for point against this Seahawks team. I don't see it. The Greatest show on turf moved to the northwest. Its the Birds year. I feel it!

Then this is coming from a NFC west Fan. Go Rams!
Dude wtf. Sure the steelers got beat by cincy and by the colt IN THE REGULAR SEASON... Need i say more. The steelers are absolutly on fire, their defense is outstanding, and Big Ben just makes the right plays with little mistakes. They absolutly dominated the bungles, colts, and demolished the broncos all on their home turf. Cowher is an excellent coach and deserves this vicory and his team is gonna give it to him. THis is an opinion thread dude but i must say your points suck!!! Steelers are hot as hell they win at least by 10...
 
Jareth said:
Dude wtf. Sure the steelers got beat by cincy and by the colt IN THE REGULAR SEASON... Need i say more. The steelers are absolutly on fire, their defense is outstanding, and Big Ben just makes the right plays with little mistakes. They absolutly dominated the bungles, colts, and demolished the broncos all on their home turf. Cowher is an excellent coach and deserves this vicory and his team is gonna give it to him. THis is an opinion thread dude but i must say your points suck!!! Steelers are hot as hell they win at least by 10...



lol Well we'll just have to see about that! Like I my words are coming from a NFC West fan!

Cower is a good coach. So is Holgram, as he did win a SB with Green Bay? Since he is no longer General manager he can concentrate a lot more on just coaching.

How did Pitt dominate the Colts? Pitt had 305 yards of total offence, while the Clots had 348 yards of total offence?

Manning threw not one interception, Ben threw one. James was held to only 56 yards on the ground. I bet Alexander doubles that. And Hasselbeck trows for 300+.

Seahawks are underated big time. Will just see waht happens then.
 
crazyed27 said:
lol Well we'll just have to see about that! Like I my words are coming from a NFC West fan!

Cower is a good coach. So is Holgram, as he did win a SB with Green Bay? Since he is no longer General manager he can concentrate a lot more on just coaching.

How did Pitt dominate the Colts? Pitt had 305 yards of total offence, while the Clots had 348 yards of total offence?

Manning threw not one interception, Ben threw one. James was held to only 56 yards on the ground. I bet Alexander doubles that. And Hasselbeck trows for 300+.

Seahawks are underated big time. Will just see waht happens then.
Fair enough! Did you happen to watch the colts?pitt game. The only reason the score was close was the colts had a late comeback. Pitt had big lead throught the game. They got to Payton 5-6 times.
 
Jareth said:
Fair enough! Did you happen to watch the colts?pitt game. The only reason the score was close was the colts had a late comeback. Pitt had big lead throught the game. They got to Payton 5-6 times.



Yep it was a good game especially that last quarter! Peyton is still feeling some of those hits!
 
crazyed27 said:
Fact- Cinncy beat Pitt on Dec 4, 38 to 31. Mon Nov 28th Pitt got spanked by the Colts 26-7. So don't put Pitt up on a pedestal, there not that good. They seem to go through streakes of greatness, and streaks of being just average. They got lucky that the Colts did not return the fumble by Bettis for a touchdown. The recoverer made an awful decision by not trying to beat Big Ben to the sidelines. Then on top of that Vanderjack missed a FG to tie. Pitt is freaking lucky that they are still in it.

Obviously, nobody expects a team to win every game, but I couldn't disagree more with your above analysis. The Monday night game was a disasterous loss that I think was a combination of poor coaching for that situation and Ben coming off a 3 week or so rest from his knee surgery. While there is no excuse for any team to play football in a god-awful structure like a dome, the fact is they do exist and, unfortunately, the League has given this practice the green light. The Steelers didn't even have a silent count ready for that game. To me, that is underestimating the difficulty of that road game. And it goes without saying that it was questionable to open the second half with the onside kick, given that the defense had started to contain Indy after giving up a couple of early scores in the first half. Ben had his moments of decency, but it wasn't one of his better games as it was his first action in a month. None of that is meant as an excuse. Indy whooped Pittsburgh in no uncertain terms that night, but it is not indicative of their abilities at all.

As for the Steelers in the playoffs, it was obviously total domination of every opponent. Yes, the Colts had an opportunity to tie the game with the Vanderjagt field goal and the fumble itself was almost run back for a touchdown. None of that would have ever occurred and had any relevance if the officials didn't botch a horrible call and take the interception away from Troy Polamolu. On the drive, Indianapolis eventually went on to score a touchdown and two-point conversion, at the time when Pittsburgh should have been running time off and setting up a chip-shot field goal to go up 24-10. The bad call is indisputable, as the League itself stated, but the score is what is was and is in the books. But the mere 3 point victory doesn't change the fact that Pittsburgh went into a game that most people, including myself at the time, thought they would lose, and absolutely hog-tied and bitch slapped the Colts senseless. Pittsburgh is anything but "freaking lucky that they are still in it". As the announcers said in the post game show, with the way they dominated that game and a couple of awful calls against them, it would have been a tragedy if it had slipped away.

I was concerned about what I saw in the December Cincinnati game, not because I thought Cincy was the better team, but because Pittsburgh got taken out of their gameplan and they failed to put it together when it counted. The Bengal got an early break when they fumbled a punt return at their own five-yard line and it was awarded to the Bengals when replay showed Pittsburgh had the ball. I forget why it wasn't challengeable. Anyway, it was Ben's second game back from the layoff and he threw three interceptions. Not a good day at the office. A fumble combined for a fourth turnover. The Bengals had no turnovers that game, so the Steelers certainly had some solid play at times to be within a touchdown in the final seconds after turning the ball over. They would have had a chance a tie that game if they didn't self-destruct in the final seconds of that game with false starts and shit like that. Not that there is no cause for concern, but the Steelers beat themselves in that game.

I got two players that will and can stop Pitts run and pass game. Grant Wistrom and Bryce Fisher. These guys have motors that just don't stop. Michael Boulware is young smart and can play SS great for his experience level.

On the other side of the ball, you have Alexander the great, nuff said. Hasselbeck is under-rated IMO. If Engram and Jackson can't get open, look Joe Jurevicius can make big plays at important times. Oh and there O-line is the best in the biz.

You bring up very good points. I don't think this is a done deal at all. I just think the Steelers have been awesome and are rightfully favored. But I wouldn't touch the 4-point spread on this game with my money. I haven't seen enough of the Seahawks to evaluate them the way you have. I know Seattle has some studs on defense, but I can't imagine they're heads and tails better than Pittsburgh, as the Steeler defense is just a wrecking machine that has probably looked more impressive than the offense in the postseason.

Big Ben is a good QB, not as prolific as Matt has been this year. Bettis and Parker will be stoped by the D-Line. That will force Big Ben to hit Ward and Randel-El. That is when Wistrom and Fisher come in to play. If they don't get him look out for Lofa Tatupu to come in and blast Ben.

Well, Ben has successfully hit Ward and Randle-El the past few weeks, when asked to do so. The Steelers have answered the call against pass rushing opponents before, although I admit the Seahawks will be as tough as anything they've faced this year. I must say Hasselback has had an incredible year. He'll be facing a tough Steeler defense, but again he'll be as good as most anything they've faced this year.

IMO the Steelers can't match up point for point against this Seahawks team. I don't see it. The Greatest show on turf moved to the northwest. Its the Birds year. I feel it!

Well, I hope you're wrong. :)
 
crazyed27 said:
Cower is a good coach.

Actually Cowher has always had a reputation for being too conservative at times and having it bite him on the ass. However, he has really opened things up this year, particularly in the post season. Unfortunately, there are times when Cowher fails to get the team ready to play for the big game. I mean, he's 1-4 in AFC Championships at home, which is disgraceful. And his one road win last week was again total domination. That shows he fails to get them motivated at times. Clearly, in the past, he has overestimated his team going into the Championship games.

Bottom line: The Steelers can beat themselves. If the Steelers don't bring their A-game, it will be over. I think the Steelers have been so dominating that if they would play a perfect game I don't think they would lose, even if the Seahawks brought their best...but history shows they may not happen.

How did Pitt dominate the Colts? Pitt had 305 yards of total offence, while the Clots had 348 yards of total offence?

Dude, did you watch it or just read the USA Today on Monday morning? :O The Colts had their moments in the second half, but Manning got most of his stats off a few big plays that he payed the price for. Look at the sacks and defensive stats. As mentioned in my other post, the last drive would have never went down as it did, had the interception been ruled correctly. It still adds up to domination, as the sports world was raving about on Monday morning afterwards.
 
penguinsfan said:
Obviously, nobody expects a team to win every game, but I couldn't disagree more with your above analysis. The Monday night game was a disasterous loss that I think was a combination of poor coaching for that situation and Ben coming off a 3 week or so rest from his knee surgery. While there is no excuse for any team to play football in a god-awful structure like a dome, the fact is they do exist and, unfortunately, the League has given this practice the green light. The Steelers didn't even have a silent count ready for that game. To me, that is underestimating the difficulty of that road game. And it goes without saying that it was questionable to open the second half with the onside kick, given that the defense had started to contain Indy after giving up a couple of early scores in the first half. Ben had his moments of decency, but it wasn't one of his better games as it was his first action in a month. None of that is meant as an excuse. Indy whooped Pittsburgh in no uncertain terms that night, but it is not indicative of their abilities at all.

As for the Steelers in the playoffs, it was obviously total domination of every opponent. Yes, the Colts had an opportunity to tie the game with the Vanderjagt field goal and the fumble itself was almost run back for a touchdown. None of that would have ever occurred and had any relevance if the officials didn't botch a horrible call and take the interception away from Troy Polamolu. On the drive, Indianapolis eventually went on to score a touchdown and two-point conversion, at the time when Pittsburgh should have been running time off and setting up a chip-shot field goal to go up 24-10. The bad call is indisputable, as the League itself stated, but the score is what is was and is in the books. But the mere 3 point victory doesn't change the fact that Pittsburgh went into a game that most people, including myself at the time, thought they would lose, and absolutely hog-tied and bitch slapped the Colts senseless. Pittsburgh is anything but "freaking lucky that they are still in it". As the announcers said in the post game show, with the way they dominated that game and a couple of awful calls against them, it would have been a tragedy if it had slipped away.

I was concerned about what I saw in the December Cincinnati game, not because I thought Cincy was the better team, but because Pittsburgh got taken out of their gameplan and they failed to put it together when it counted. The Bengal got an early break when they fumbled a punt return at their own five-yard line and it was awarded to the Bengals when replay showed Pittsburgh had the ball. I forget why it wasn't challengeable. Anyway, it was Ben's second game back from the layoff and he threw three interceptions. Not a good day at the office. A fumble combined for a fourth turnover. The Bengals had no turnovers that game, so the Steelers certainly had some solid play at times to be within a touchdown in the final seconds after turning the ball over. They would have had a chance a tie that game if they didn't self-destruct in the final seconds of that game with false starts and shit like that. Not that there is no cause for concern, but the Steelers beat themselves in that game.



You bring up very good points. I don't think this is a done deal at all. I just think the Steelers have been awesome and are rightfully favored. But I wouldn't touch the 4-point spread on this game with my money. I haven't seen enough of the Seahawks to evaluate them the way you have. I know Seattle has some studs on defense, but I can't imagine they're heads and tails better than Pittsburgh, as the Steeler defense is just a wrecking machine that has probably looked more impressive than the offense in the postseason.



Well, Ben has successfully hit Ward and Randle-El the past few weeks, when asked to do so. The Steelers have answered the call against pass rushing opponents before, although I admit the Seahawks will be as tough as anything they've faced this year. I must say Hasselback has had an incredible year. He'll be facing a tough Steeler defense, but again he'll be as good as most anything they've faced this year.



Well, I hope you're wrong. :)



Man that was a good post! I forgot about those fucked up calls in the game with the colts. You really do hate those domes don't ya Pfan! All I got to say about them is the climite is never a factor making the fans that are pussy want to see a NFL game!

As a former St Louis Ram I'd like to see Bettis have a really good day.


I would not bet my money on either team this year, especially 4 points, man fuck that. This should be one of the better superbowls since the Rams beat the Titans by 1 1/2 yards. Also New England is not there!

Hasselbeck has not seen a D like Pitts, nor the O-line so it will be a good match up all the way around. And if Pitt wins, I'll down a few shots for you PF!
 
who has have he seahawks played really? the hardest team was the Jags and they lost. i dont count the Indy game b/c it was meaningless and colts had already gotton their first loss. panthers played like shit and the redskins couldnt do dick on offense against the Bucs or Hawks. Seahawks have played pussy teams.

Not once this season have they playd the Broncs, Pats, Steelers, or Beng. When was the last time they played against the 3-4? They got a lot to prove in my eyes to even think that it will be a close game. The Broncos defense would be able to stop Hasselbeck now, but couldnt stop Roethlisberger.
 
crazyed27 said:
Man that was a good post! I forgot about those fucked up calls in the game with the colts. You really do hate those domes don't ya Pfan! All I got to say about them is the climite is never a factor making the fans that are pussy want to see a NFL game!

Yeah, I just think domes take away from the thrill of a blizzard or other weather factor. The smaller advantage is that most teams aren't used to the turf and lighting of domes and the bigger advantage is the noise factor and I just hate the fact that domes amplify the noise. Don't get me wrong--it's still just an advantage, not a sure bet. Nothing of that matter is going to help a considerably inferior team beat a powerhouse. Remember when Green Bay totally sucked in the late 80's or so? You never heard anyone talk about it being tough to have to play on "the frozen tundra", because even though it may be one of the more difficult environments the team was just truly that bad.

I can see the consistent climate element of a dome, but that would just bring out the pussy fans as you say and make it even more difficult for guys like me, without a whole lot of extra cash, to score a ticket.

I would not bet my money on either team this year, especially 4 points, man fuck that. This should be one of the better superbowls since the Rams beat the Titans by 1 1/2 yards. Also New England is not there!

Hasselbeck has not seen a D like Pitts, nor the O-line so it will be a good match up all the way around. And if Pitt wins, I'll down a few shots for you PF!

I really think this is going to be a physical war. And it wouldn't surprise me if it came down to the final minute or so, like New England against St. Louis and Carolina.
 
anti-pop said:
who has have he seahawks played really? the hardest team was the Jags and they lost. i dont count the Indy game b/c it was meaningless and colts had already gotton their first loss. panthers played like shit and the redskins couldnt do dick on offense against the Bucs or Hawks. Seahawks have played pussy teams.

Not once this season have they playd the Broncs, Pats, Steelers, or Beng. When was the last time they played against the 3-4? They got a lot to prove in my eyes to even think that it will be a close game. The Broncos defense would be able to stop Hasselbeck now, but couldnt stop Roethlisberger.

There is some truth to what you're saying, but I became more of a Seahawks believer in watching them just shred Carolina to pieces. The team that controlled the Giants and the Bears looked utterly helpless against Seattle. So, I think the Panthers are a quality opponent and I wouldn't take anything for granted. Their overall schedule has definitely been weak and there is no disputing that. It just makes one wonder how good they really are, which makes it dangerous if the Steelers take them lightly.
 
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