Progress thread Pumping for sensitivity and EQ

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And...it begins. Newly retired and otherwise healthy, but man, the erectile quality dropped off a cliff in the past 18 months.

Doctor prescribed Cialis (Tadalafil) 5mg daily in late 2023. Immediate positive EQ gains, no issue getting or maintaining a high quality erection. The new problem was that penile sensitivity and overall erection fullness isn't there anymore, not getting that "throbbing" erection. This past month I ordered liquid Tadalafil online (MA Research, no financial connection, just a satisfied customer). If I dose up to 20 mg, I can get pretty intense erections compared to 5mg daily, but still not quite at the level from 5 years ago. Will stay on this med even when pumping, the med makes me hang plump at all times and it feels really good when I'm on it daily. Tried a week off and my sex drive dropped off.

The MOS forum is chock full of gainers, but I'm hopeful this post finds a kindred soul who's focused on EQ and sensitivity to help guide/support my pumping journey.

I've ordered a Bathmate HydroExtreme 7. Hope it's the right tool for this job, I've done my homework and want a reliable, safe and effective pump.

I take my self help projects seriously. So I will periodically update folks here on my experience.
 
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Welcome to MOS brother. Your journey will bring some girth gains even though you have said it here clearly that you don't need girth gains.

I want you to do the 5x5x3 pumping routine. This will help with erection issues and will also bring girth gains.

Try to abstain from masturbation too.
 
Thank you brother for your kind reply.

Yes, thanks on the 5x5x3, I've read a few hundred posts here this week and see that routine listed a lot.
Given my goal is absolutely not to gain too much and focus on EQ, does the penis stretching part of the 5x5x3 still apply?
Why would masturbation be an issue if I am only focused on EQ and not gains?
 
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Thank you brother for your kind reply.

Yes, thanks on the 5x5x3, I've read a few hundred posts here this week and see that routine listed a lot.
Given my goal is absolutely not to gain too much and focus on EQ, does the penis stretching part of the 5x5x3 still apply?

Regarding masturbation, we shall see, I'm a regular 5x per week solo, plus 2x wife weekly kind of guy.
Why would masturbation be an issue if I am only focused on EQ and not gains?

You are only doing the 5x5z3 routine for girth. No need for stretching. But there is bound to be a little girth gains from all of the pumping though.
 
The penis needs time to recover from masturbation especially if you intend pumping in few hours time. If I masturbate, I some times feel slight pains on the penis shaft when I pump.

So best thing for you, is to masturbate at the end of the day probably night time and then, do your PE the following day at about 4pm

You want to have up to 6 hours apart from the time you masturbated to the time you will be pumping.
 
there is bound to be a little girth gains from all of the pumping though.

A little is fine, more than a little isn't the plan.
Glad to hear the stretching isn't necessary for my EQ goal, truly appreciate any feedback!
 
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A little is fine, more than a little isn't the plan (don't want to "shock and awe" the mrs too much).
Glad to hear the stretching isn't necessary for my EQ goal, truly appreciate any feedback!

You will gain up to half inch of length too. So keep that in mind as well.
 
Yes, thanks on the 5x5x3, I've read a few hundred posts here this week and see that routine listed a lot.
Given my goal is absolutely not to gain too much and focus on EQ, does the penis stretching part of the 5x5x3 still apply?

@Electric if you don't want to gain anything with the pump, and only increase and optimize your EQ (Erection Quality). Then you should only pump, and not do any manual work (Jelq's) with your hands.

If you do manual work, alongside with pumping (SRT 5X5X3), then you will most likely gain permanent girth.

I say this to help, becouse of what you have written above. We all want gains in this brotherhood. But if you absolutely do not want it, you should not do manual work with your hands.

Only pump lightly, to not change the permanent volume (expand the tunica albigunea further) of your expanded penis.
 
If using a pump I highly suggest you consider the mityvac. It is more powerful than any pump out there and you can use it with water or air

Yes, saw the posts on that product, thank you for your expertise and knowledge.

I'm awaiting the Bathmate in the mail, due next week. I chose it based on thorough research and will give it a try before considering alternatives.

Money is no object.. Heck, the medications I was prescribed would easily exceed cost of the pump I bought in 2 months, whereas the pump hopefully will mean I don't need to continue meds long term...but the effect on Tadalafil on my body is super impressive and if the combo of pump and meds works well, I'd be thrilled.

Re: power, I'm going to take things slow and won't be using the hand pump option on the HydroXtreme 7 I ordered unless needed in the future. I just ordered the maximum product that matched my current dimensions, even if it's overkill at this time.

Re: air vs water, the reviews of water tell me it's more effective to spread the pressure across the entirety of the penile structure, which is my goal, to rejuvenate my penis back to pre-ED days (less than 2 years ago).

Re: potential inconvenience of water, I've got a quiet time/place to do the pumping at home and expect to be perfectly comfortable with the requirement for a location where water spills aren't an issue.
 
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Received Bathmate HydroXtreme 7 today.
Unboxed, everything shipshape.

Did 3 pumps of 3, 4 and 5 minutes with comfort insert, all successful, no issues, good suction using the included ball attachment, penis engorged to fill full diameter of insert and tube, was constricted on length due to aforementioned girth resistance (felt like it wanted to extend, but was stopped by friction). The only discomfort was the first pump initially. Second and third pumps were all trouble free and comfortable.

Tried one final 2 minute pump without comfort insert, this time the length was starting to extend until suction got lost. If I had to rate with and without insert, the comfort insert absolutely restricts my penis from growing lengthwise in the tube, but the suction was perfect. The next session I will try without comfort insert and use some vaseline to ensure better suction, as I'm curious if that will provide a lower friction environment and allow more length extension.

10/10 !
It's 45 minutes later and zero penile issues, very normal feelings. Normal color. All's good in dickland. Cheers mates!
 
Good for you i'm glad you've realized that these modifications can make such a difference
 
First morning update:

INTENSE morning wood, main vein was popping out. Like, BAM, hard as ever, like a pole is pushing it from underneath. Shocking, as the Tadalafil had positive effects on morning wood, but this post pump morning wood is a big big increase over pure meds alone.

Color is good, red not purple or anything like that, no discoloration or spots.

Afternoon update:

The feeling in my pants is akin to taking a full 15mg Tadalafil dose, plump flacid and it's "there" at all times. Haven't taken any Tadalafil for 24 hours as I wanted to see what pump would do with lower dose of meds in my system.
 
Made some progress in second pump session today without the insert, but still having trouble with suction without the insert. Work in progress. No issues with post pump, just getting used to the feelings and what my body is telling me. Slow and steady. Damn though, with the insert, I max out the tube volume but stubby, not getting any stretch, at least it feels good and there are no after effects so far.
 
Made some progress in second pump session today without the insert, but still having trouble with suction without the insert. Work in progress. No issues with post pump, just getting used to the feelings and what my body is telling me. Slow and steady. Damn though, with the insert, I max out the tube volume but stubby, not getting any stretch, at least it feels good and there are no after effects so far.

If the comfortinsert gives you better expansion, I highly recommend you use it. 4, do not use it and try to improve the vacuum through different Adjustments that will definitely worth finding what year grooves is
 
THIRD time is the charm!

Switched it up a bit, got a hard on and then let it subside to 80% or so and then pumped 4 minutes with comfort insert.
This was better, compared to entering completely flacid as I have been doing.

Took off the insert and worked the blood flow a bit before reinserting and this time pumped until shortly in to this 5 minute period my penis lengthened out to it's normal maximum length according to the gauge. I've seen notes "don't trust the gauge", but in my case, the reading was at 7" and that's what I measure erect. Success!

The gators were not quite maxed out, and the pressure was comfortable if a bit on the "whoa, that's doing something" side. Squeezed a bit more water out for final minute, discomfort was minimal.

Did another 5 minute pump, head got lodged on side wall so this limited expansion. Head was purple in the area where it was stuck on the side of the pump tube. No issues, again, worked things out.

Final 2 minute pump was max pressure and then pulled out and worked to erect state, wow, never ever been that big in my life. EQ is very good even straight out of the pump. Not sure if that's what others see, but for me, my EQ was really strong after this session, no issues or discomfort so far.

Cannot thank the brothers here enough for the excellent information available, the comfort insert is now consigned to the first initial pump, and long term I may not even use it.
 
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THIRD time is the charm!

Switched it up a bit, got a hard on and then let it subside to 80% or so and then pumped 4 minutes with comfort insert.
This was better, compared to entering completely flacid as I have been doing.

Took off the insert and worked the blood flow a bit before reinserting and this time pumped until shortly in to this 5 minute period my penis lengthened out to it's normal maximum length according to the gauge. I've seen notes "don't trust the gauge", but in my case, the reading was at 7" and that's what I measure erect. Success!

The gators were not quite maxed out, and the pressure was comfortable if a bit on the "whoa, that's doing something" side. Squeezed a bit more water out for final minute, discomfort was minimal.

Did another 5 minute pump, head got lodged on side wall so this limited expansion. Head was purple in the area where it was stuck on the side of the pump tube. No issues, again, worked things out.

Final 2 minute pump was max pressure and then pulled out and worked to erect state, wow, never ever been that big in my life. EQ is very good even straight out of the pump. Not sure if that's what others see, but for me, my EQ was really strong after this session, no issues or discomfort so far.

Cannot thank the brothers here for the excellent information available, the comfort insert is now consigned to the first initial pump, and long term I may not even use it.
Excellent
 
Going to take a day off and let things recover down below.

My mental state is extremely positive, so I'd like to revel in this and see if I'm feeling like pumping every other day or more than that works for me for the first week or two.

I've read about addiction to pumping and given that I am very much focused on EQ, I'll slow down for a bit before I increase my pace.

As for EQ, valentines morning was very solid indeed, I had pumped at 5PM yesterday, and the EQ was better than a full dose of Cialis/Tadalafil could provide.
 
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Pumped same routine, 3 mins with insert, 4 minutes without insert and with semi from first pump, 5 minutes more pressure and stretched out (not quite the max I got in previous session, but within 1/3").
An hour later, the blood flow and sensitivity are way up and I'm feeling fantastic. The day off was good, I noticed slight amount of red spots on the skin which I hadn't seen previously post-pump. Will monitor.
 
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Two week update.
Pump 3 days and then day off, repeat.
Doing 3 minute with comfort insert, 4 mins medium pressure no insert, 5 minutes increasing pressure, 2 final minutes high pressure.
Massaging between sets. Nothing fancy, just getting the blood to flow out and cool things down.
Result is morning wood like I've not had in years, solid girth gain (not going to measure) and no noticeable issues.
Slight edema when I pumped for 7 minutes high pressure, so keeping to 5 at max or less.
 
Two week update.
Pump 3 days and then day off, repeat.
Doing 3 minute with comfort insert, 4 mins medium pressure no insert, 5 minutes increasing pressure, 2 final minutes high pressure.
Massaging between sets. Nothing fancy, just getting the blood to flow out and cool things down.
Result is morning wood like I've not had in years, solid girth gain (not going to measure) and no noticeable issues.
Slight edema when I pumped for 7 minutes high pressure, so keeping to 5 at max or less.
I suggest that you use the ball and ligament stretch in between your sets. This will loosen up everything and allow you to make much greater length
 
One month update:

1. keeping a 3 days on 2 off for sessions recently
2. EQ is substantially better the morning after a session previous night
3. no issues with the pump, high quality product, not using comfort insert at all anymore
4. using slightly lower pressure than maximum, reaching larger dimensions in the pump each week
5. total session time reducing from 40 minutes to 25, with generally <15 mins under pressure (4 mins, 5 mins, 5 mins)
6. everything figured out, smooth sessions, just continuing on now

Remember my goal is EQ, which has been showing improvements, so I'll continue for the next 5 months and if there are any notes to be made, I'll leave them here. But for now, A-OK.

If a new user comes across this thread, note that I am not focused on gains, just getting back to my "initial specification" from my younger years.

Notes.
1. tried a few high pressure pumps a few weeks ago, didn't like the results physically, now I'm staying under the maximum the product is capable of achieving
2. discoloration is more intense when pressure is higher, fades in a few days
3. using hot tap water, filling in sink, not showering per se just emptying in the shower area, very convenient
4. cleaning cylinder and hand pump attachment every 3rd session with soap
 
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One year update.

ERECTION QUALITY

Focus on EQ paid off. I no longer take any medications for blood flow, not needed!
Morning wood is furiously strong.
Easily able to get erections at all times, day or night.
Erection duration of at least one hour achieved when properly stimulated.
This means foreplay can be extended for long periods, which makes for more meaningful connection/interactions.


TRUTH about SIZE
Yes, (as you all warned me) of course I have gained length and girth.
This was not an initial goal, as my focus was to regain what I had been losing.
However, this is truly a beneficial side effect of pumping.


LENGTH

The first time I pumped 1 year ago, I was 0.5" below my maximum natural length according to the Bathmate gauge.
Within the first month, the gauge matched my normal erect length.
As the months progressed, I was exceeding measurements in-pump slowly and continuously.
To avoid this visual distraction (gauge), I flip the pump around so the gauge is below and out of my view.
Now 1 year later, I pumped with the gauge showing and was beyond the gauge, well beyond the point where the pump tube narrows.
I measured from base of pump with a ruler and was 1" longer in the pump vs my maximum erectile length achieved in my youth.
To provide this review, I measured an "official" BPEL outside of the pump with a many days off.

Length Result:
One year of pumping, measurable length gain, varies, but easily 0.4" longer on regular basis when erect.
Key point: I am now exceeding the length from when I was much younger and achieving rock hard erections.


GIRTH

I've always been on the good side of girth, but fading as my erection strength waned over the past decade.
Within two weeks of pumping, I noticed girth stayed plump for hours post pump.
Penis base is way larger girth gain than the rest of the shaft, which has "evened out" my average girth to pretty much even across the entire length.
One year later, the girth gains have been kept longer post pump.
I can no longer use the "comfort insert" of the Bathmate when pumping using water, the restriction is uncomfortable.

Girth Result :
Post pump (within 5 hours), I am 1" to 1.3" more rock hard girth (not soft or spongy).
After many days off pumping, girth is still 0.5" better, hard or soft than ever in my life before pumping.
Key Point : Girth feels fantastic.


ROUTINE

Typical week is 4 pump days.

Sometimes I pump in the shower with water, without the comfort insert. Initial pump 2 minutes to get hard. Reset and pump again to medium pressure for 4 minutes. Reset and pump final at maximum pressure allowed without using the hand pump. This is a "maintenance" pump. Steady pressure.

A few times per week I do an intense pump session, using water, without the comfort insert. 3 minutes medium pressure. Reset and massage. 5 minutes more pressure. Reset and massage. 6 minutes with increasing pressure up to maximum (hand pump will not void any more water) for the final minute. Reset and massage. 5 minutes with increasing pressure up to maximum (hand pump will not void any more water) for the final 2 minutes. After releasing the maximum pressure, there is very little water left in the tube, just filling the spherical section of the bottom of tube, that means all of the water in the main "tubular" section was voided during the pump session. At no time do I feel more than minor discomfort during the session. I've properly adapted to the pressures and it feels good.

Twice per week or when convenient I pump without water using the hand pump and with the comfort insert. The air pressure drops due to inconsistent seal at the base, so this might be termed an "interval pump" session, where the pressure is variously increased, then drops and repeat. I let the pressure drop to the point where my erection feels "throbbing" and I have good sensitivity to fresh blood flow, stay at that level for half a minute or so, then restart the pumping using the hand pump attachment until the throbbing stops and the ache of the pump pressure is noticeable. The comfort insert restricts girth substantially, so my size in pump is muted.



NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS

Penis is darker, always. Red spots often appear after my intense pump sessions, so I have been doing that kind of pumping less often. The interval air pumping is a convenient way to get a pump in, while also having no spots, discoloration or other side effects. The most common side effect now is looking forward to the next pump LOL.

Edema and water retention was common in the first few months of pumping where I was learning and adapting to the system. Now, even with maximum pressure for short periods, I avoid this by being vigilant on the visual cues and feelings. I can achieve the same intense pump and have a massively erect penis post pump without any side effects. Now, side effects are 1 in 10 pumps or less.


FLACID EFFECTS

On a regular basis, I am plump. Even in cold temperatures I no longer shrink to minimal size, there is always more than I was used to down below. As a "grower", this is a new experience.


Not looking for any response or confirmation. Just posting here in case someone older like me who experienced erectile dis-function and wants great erection quality to return.
 
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TLDR

Bathmate pumping has restored my erection to BEYOND my youthful power.
Cialis medication was a short term partial aide, but pumping is a long term SOLUTION.
Erectile dis-function in older men need not happen, start pumping earlier in life.
Erection points up and is 100% firm. (no change in ligaments or angle)
 
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Did you do anything else this past year health wise that may have improved your EQ, or is what you have detailed here everything?

Congratulations on you success!
 
I have had issues with ED the past uear or so. Didnt start until I statyed PE. Had never had that issue in my life. Doing research and I could be wrong I concluded I was too aggressive and may have experienced death grip. Didn't know pumping restores erection quality. Is this common knowledge, something you tried because of research?
 
I have had issues with ED the past uear or so. Didnt start until I statyed PE. Had never had that issue in my life. Doing research and I could be wrong I concluded I was too aggressive and may have experienced death grip. Didn't know pumping restores erection quality. Is this common knowledge, something you tried because of research?
Pumping and jelqing is known, and had been known, for over 2000 years to help with ED. We simply researched and verified on the validity on the ancient hunches and scientifically proven the methodology. ED can be a cause for going too hard and too fast. This is the fact.
 
Pumping and jelqing is known, and had been known, for over 2000 years to help with ED. We simply researched and verified on the validity on the ancient hunches and scientifically proven the methodology. ED can be a cause for going too hard and too fast. This is the fact.
Pumps go back that far?
 
Thats crazy! I want a Byzantinian pumpo_O
Not so healthy as it was made of copper. Ever heard of the torture devices for the penis in the dark Euro period? That was one of the early reinventions of extreme PE.
 
Did you do anything else this past year health wise that may have improved your EQ, or is what you have detailed here everything?
I exercise regularly, and eat protein oriented diet. I'm 8 lbs heavier than I was at 30 when I was at my peak fitness, but this can vary 10 lbs in either direction depending on the time of year. Dropping weight helped.

I took my EQ for granted, and before I knew it, age caught up with me. My lesson is simple, if you see the signs of blood pressure issues or waning EQ, drugs are only a temporary aide. I knew penis pumps existed, but never dreamed I'd ever need to use one!

My Doctor prescribed Cialis, and that helped to "wake my penis up", but the cost is significantly more long term than the pump. The drugs didn't help my confidence at all, and I only take them now for a "surprise boost" once in a while as I have a few months supply left which if I don't take daily could take me a long time to use up.

The results of pumping strictly for EQ helped my confidence and emotional state significantly, and without a doubt, positive outlook this has been one of the most important health gains.
 
I have had issues with ED the past uear or so. Didnt start until I statyed PE. Had never had that issue in my life. Doing research and I could be wrong I concluded I was too aggressive and may have experienced death grip.
My PE is entirely due to age. I never did any sort of PE in my life prior to buying the pump a year ago.

WARNING

I overdid the pumping a few times. The biggest mistakes happened when I left the pump on too long. Now, I have a timer count down 5 minutes. My initial pump is never longer than 3 minutes, that shorter initial pump is just a warm up. 5 minutes is the sweet spot for how my body responds to purely EQ oriented pumping. I also don't enter with a full erection when water pumping, just about 80% hard is plenty. Max pressure is only for a short duration at the end of a short 5 minute pump, anything longer than 2 minutes results in edema and a ruined pump session where I'll stop pumping for 3 days or so. I pump only if there are no signs of stress and the ache is pleasant. Any sort of pain and I stop immediately, even if the pain is slight. The Bathmate is a strange device, hard to use initially, and the "gator bite" is a real thing if you get the angle wrong to start!

If I am successful for a few days in a row and the sessions are good, I might do 4 days consecutively. However, I rarely get that many days in a row without feeling like I'm over-training. I'd say the average week is 3 - 4 sessions. Interval air pumping has been a recent addition as I find it is far less physically stressful than water, as the pressure is far less due to air leakage.

TIP

Water pumping with an air tight seal is noticeably more stressful and the engorgement is so complete that there is little room left by the time I'm at my third pump set of the session. I learned to use soap to lather up prior to pressing the pump to my body, this solved the issues I initially had sealing the pump to my body. I use warm water, just on the edge of truly hot temperature. I massage in between pump sets which helps reduce the worst side effects of discoloration.
 
Not so healthy as it was made of copper. Ever heard of the torture devices for the penis in the dark Euro period? That was one of the early reinventions of extreme PE.
I feel so revolutionary I pe. I can't believe how long ago it happened. Do you have a picture of the pump? Interested in how it looks and operates.
 
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