PE: To tell or not to tell?

For those of you with 1) a wife or significant other to notice that your dick is getting huge, and 2) the privacy to perform your PE in secret if you choose...

Is PE something that you keep to yourself? Have you told/will you tell her what you're doing and why? Or do you let her think you've had a random growth spurt or something and it just happened on its own?

I plan on letting my wife know what I've been up to when she notices the results, for a couple of reasons. First, I don't really like it when people think I'm a 'natural' at something. Anything I'm good at, it's because I worked my butt off for it and I want credit for that. :)

Second, it will be a way for me to 'put my money where my mouth is.' She thinks large breasts are really sexy and would make her feel sexy, but she doesn't have them and right now she thinks it's pointless or somehow doesn't count if you do anything -- surgery or natural intervention -- to augment them. I honestly think that's ass backwards (again, I want people to know if I've worked to earn something), and I've told her as much, but I haven't made her feel differently. By showing her the results of my PE and telling her exactly what I did to earn those results -- and how much better I can feel about the results knowing that I've earned them -- I can actually live by what I've preached. And then perhaps she'll feel it's "okay" to improve herself that way, too. She'd be happier with a body more closely reflecting what she likes, and I guess I wouldn't mind if my wife had bigger boobs. ;)

What do you guys think? How do you approach this?
 
Never tell, it will destroy the relationship. She will get jelous you are getting a bigger penis instead of using that amount of hours to be a slave to her, women are inertly selfish creatures.

Then comes the risk of shaming etc.

Only negatives no positives at all.
 
Never tell, it will destroy the relationship. She will get jelous you are getting a bigger penis instead of using that amount of hours to be a slave to her, women are inertly selfish creatures.

Then comes the risk of shaming etc.

Only negatives no positives at all.
Daaaaang Enrik you sound like that MGTOW crowd! :D I'll tell you what I've told some of them:

There are definitely costs to associating with women, and like all humans they're imperfect and will probably hurt you if you let them close enough. Fair enough! Having said that, some women are gold diggers/looking for betas they can dominate/etc, and others are legitimately good people and strong partners. If you're confident that what you've described is the only likely outcome, I encourage you to take heart and try to find some higher quality partners!

To quote the venerable Smoky Robinson: "Pretty girls come a dime a dozen. Try to find one who's gonna give your children loving!"

EDIT: I should say, I could see a wife/GF being pissed depending on how much time you've spent on PE, and depending on your situation they may not be wrong. But then, that's where stuff like ADS really shine!
 
I was considering telling my wife a while back and the brothers here convinced me not to ( for various reasons).

My wife has already said once after I had been 6 months in “I FORGOT how fat your dick was!”

And that was only 1/4-1/2” girth growth

Loved hearing that. In her mind I was always that size.

I think even our wives are sort of clueless about exact size, especially since it can be so variable.

If she did ask directly, I would probably just say that I work out my penis just like every other muscle in my body, and not go into too much detail.

My satisfaction comes from having a bigger dick. I don’t need credit for the work.

That’s my take.
 
My wife has known from beginning and is totally cool with it, she even pops into the bathroom every once in awhile while I'm in the middle of a routine and grabs my penis and says it's so big it looks fake (shes always thought it was very big to begin with). Multiple times she has been in the bathroom with me and just watches me use my bathmate, she likes to see it, but she gives me my privacy as well. I don't really know how wives or girlfriends wouldn't think something is going on from being in the bathroom for an hour or more and then when you come out your penis super engorged larger than it ever is. EDIT: I've even sat on the couch wearing my bathmate while we watch a movie, play a video game etc.
 
I honestly think they’re certain females that would be perfectly fine with it (open minded females) and then females who are the complete opposite. But to me there are other factors like for example having a family. I could hear a woman saying “you’re so occupied with your dick you can’t even chnage the baby’s diaper” or some shit like that lol which could lead to arguments or whatever basically what I’m trying to say is with some woman it can work & some it can’t I prefer to keep it hidden for now but I do know my girlfriend gets suspicious sometimes and my worst fear is her thinking I’m cheating or something bc that’s a woman’s first instinct is when they’re suspicious and don’t know exactly what you’re doing.
 
I was considering telling my wife a while back and the brothers here convinced me not to ( for various reasons).

My wife has already said once after I had been 6 months in “I FORGOT how fat your dick was!”

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I think even our wives are sort of clueless about exact size, especially since it can be so variable.

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My satisfaction comes from having a bigger dick. I don’t need credit for the work.

That’s my take.
Interesting... Yeah I guess the process is gradual enough that they might not even realize a change is happening. Still, I feel like if I hit my 9x7 goal there's no way she won't know something's up! :) "I... uh... I guess I'm a late bloomer??"

I see what you're saying about the satisfaction. Yeah, I guess I just get annoyed when people think something is a matter of luck (e.g. I was just born with it) when I paid for it with time, energy, sweat, etc. It's odd, I've been thinking about it more since I read your post, and my mind is changing quickly. When I reach my goals I'll still like knowing that I earned them, but there is something about the perception of just naturally being well hung that seems itself more impressive. Which is weird because 1) it's not impressive to be born with a big dick (YOU LUCKY $$*#(@@*!!) and 2) I don't feel that way about e.g. muscles. I wonder what distinction I'm making there...

I've told female friends in the past, and they were all quite intrigued by it all. Even got one friend with benefits to jelq me (rock)
HA! 'Atta boy, Red! :D

My wife has known from beginning and is totally cool with it, she even pops into the bathroom every once in awhile while I'm in the middle of a routine and grabs my penis and says it's so big it looks fake (shes always thought it was very big to begin with). Multiple times she has been in the bathroom with me and just watches me use my bathmate, she likes to see it, but she gives me my privacy as well. I don't really know how wives or girlfriends wouldn't think something is going on from being in the bathroom for an hour or more and then when you come out your penis super engorged larger than it ever is. EDIT: I've even sat on the couch wearing my bathmate while we watch a movie, play a video game etc.
See now that's my dream scenario... If I were more confident that this is how it would go down for me I'd let her know right now what was up!

But to me there are other factors like for example having a family. I could hear a woman saying “you’re so occupied with your dick you can’t even chnage the baby’s diaper” or some shit like that lol
Well, and this is another issue that I touched on in the edit in my response to Enrik, above. I want that 9x7 preeeetty bad... I want it enough that I know I'm willing to put in more time towards it than I should. There are, after all, other things in life besides trying to see how big you can make your dick. ;) And while I've never considered outright lying to my partner about what I'm up to, maybe I shouldn't even withhold the information? Because if she complains that you're spending too much time making your dick bigger and not helping out enough around the house... she might have a point. :P
 
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[QUOTE="Bornsinner, post: 1823937, member: 206995" I prefer to keep it hidden for now but I do know my girlfriend gets suspicious sometimes and my worst fear is her thinking I’m cheating or something bc that’s a woman’s first instinct is when they’re suspicious and don’t know exactly what you’re doing.[/QUOTE]

Bornsinner what is she suspicious about? You being in the bathroom too long or did she mention something?
 
Do not tell ever! There is a certain type of woman that would understand this but they are very far in between. In a normal relationship your wife may become jealous of all of the work you’re doing on your penis. This jealousy is called penis envy and it’s something that, In most cases, is inevitable. If you can keep it to yourself do you so!
 
Yes being in the bathroom too long is definitely one thing I’ve learned to time myself so when I’m alone that’s my window or for example if I’m using the bathmate and I just started a session and she wants me to go see her like that moment I quickly have to come up with a half ass excuse of why I can’t go right away and part of that is my fault bc I should plan for moments like that but still when you get caught off guard it can make her suspicious you know what I mean?
 
Yes being in the bathroom too long is definitely one thing I’ve learned to time myself so when I’m alone that’s my window or for example if I’m using the bathmate and I just started a session and she wants me to go see her like that moment I quickly have to come up with a half ass excuse of why I can’t go right away and part of that is my fault bc I should plan for moments like that but still when you get caught off guard it can make her suspicious you know what I mean?


Don’t get caught off guard LOL
 
Dont tell all at once. PE is a taboo in most ppl minds and most of them will react like u are doing satanism or black magic but they dont understand that is like a bodybuilder who want to grow his muscles. Ppl minds are not ready for so much info on this, but if ur wife in general is openminded tell everything but slowly, little info every sometimes, so she will hear all at the end normally.

Me personally i ve told recently to my close friends that i m doing PE for 5 years explaining in short detail what is it and how it works. Most of them tried to demote and degrade what i was doing (asking why u r doing this ? // size doesnt matter // u were already average to big so why u want more // this is a lose /waste of time u should do something most creative ) but i just realized that they were just jealous of what i was doing and they wanted to do this too but they didnt have the mood or just shy to ask me for details as i told them that this is difficult too, it needs time effort and discipline like bodybuilding or marathon running.

But anyway telling them what i was doing i felt better and as time passes, they will get used to it.
 
bornsinner , so you don't live with her then right? Can you just do your routine at night before bed? Because she'll surely know you are probably just be sleeping and not call you or anything
 
bornsinner , so you don't live with her then right? Can you just do your routine at night before bed? Because she'll surely know you are probably just be sleeping and not call you or anything

There are many many places you can get in PE in if you’re very creative. Go to bed a half hour later get up at half hour earlier. Every bathroom break get some stretching in. At night under the covers stretch your penis. All through the day and do Kegels, get a Phallosan and let that do all the work. Search out your day and find every moment you can to dedicate to PE as this will ultimately add to your gains
 
PE is so gradual that she'll never notice...not even when you finally achieve your goal(s), so no need to make-up any story (or you can just let her know that she's the one responsible for it being so huge cuz she's so damn sexy...99% of women ar so self-centered that letting her know she's responsible will just earn you more points). Also, PE is something you do for yourself, so recognition from anyone else is just your ego talking...you already know deep-down the value and having others know isn't worth the potential back-lash.
TLDR: keep it to yourself and let your girl know it's all her doing
 
Do not tell ever! There is a certain type of woman that would understand this but they are very far in between. In a normal relationship your wife may become jealous of all of the work you’re doing on your penis. This jealousy is called penis envy and it’s something that, In most cases, is inevitable. If you can keep it to yourself do you so!

Penis envy is deeply rooted in us all, that's why we come to this website in the first place.
Listen to dld, or face the consequences!! Freudian psychology will win, you will lose my friend brawnjohnson penis envy can't be beat!
 
I could hear a woman saying “you’re so occupied with your dick you can’t even chnage the baby’s diaper” or some shit like that lol which could lead to arguments or whatever

Born:

This is one of the main reasons I keep it on the DL. But it’s more psychological than that. My wife gets upset when I spend a lot of time working out and less time working on our relationship. That drives a wedge.

But maybe I am wrong and once I am creeping up on my goal of 7.5 x 5.5:

1. She will know what’s up since I will be much larger
2. I may tell her since I would be at or close to my goal.

We’ll see...
 
Penis envy is deeply rooted in us all, that's why we come to this website in the first place.
Listen to dld, or face the consequences!! Freudian psychology will win, you will lose my friend brawnjohnson penis envy can't be beat!

Sadly you speak the truth.
 
I think a wife or a girlfriend will never notice PE gains (only the gains not the exercises I'm talking about) even if you're living together. Why?

PE makes the gains unnoticeable.

In other words if you grow half an inch this won't be noticeable.

Then she has to do it for example with that 5 or 6 months unnoticeable half an inch.

Then the next months maybe another 5 or 6 months another half an inch. This can't be noticeable. That's 0.2 inch a month.

So she wouldn't notice. If you miraculous gain 1 inch in one night then yes.

But three inches in four years then she maybe would think something went on. But when does she notice it?

But if you do PE like pumping or other stuff that makes your Dick fluid or that pumped look, and thick look for couple of hours. Then everyone will notice that directly.

And second. I don't think you can do PE effective if you don't say that to a woman you live with. Because PE is asking several ours a day.

So this has to be at work and then the method of a extender comes in.

And 90% of the work out there. Won't let you extend a high pressure for an hour or more, and that's what you suppose to do when extending more then 2 months. Not only wearing the extender the way it feels good and that's it. No, after 2 months there must be force going on.

So no more quick moves or sitting and standing up quickly or move quickly. Most of the time with good force there must be slow movement. Sitting or walking slow etc. While the extender is at high tension in your pants.
 
Do not tell ever! There is a certain type of woman that would understand this but they are very far in between. In a normal relationship your wife may become jealous of all of the work you’re doing on your penis. This jealousy is called penis envy and it’s something that, In most cases, is inevitable. If you can keep it to yourself do you so!
So it sounds like you're coming from the same place as Enrik. I guess the idea I'm picking on is what you're referring to as penis envy: the idea that a normal wife will be jealous of "all of the work" we do on our penises. I quote exactly the phrase "all the work" because that's exactly where things get muddy for me.

I'll explain.

Let's take a hypothetical PE-er. We'll call him 'Dick.' Dick tells his wife what he's been up to, and how much time he's been putting into it, and she's very upset. Dick thinks she's jealous of his dick, and pissed because she wants him to devote more time to 'being her slave.' The thing is, Dick might be right! At the same time, as I mentioned to Born, it's also possible that his wife is pissed because he is spending too much time on PE. Maybe Dick has been neglecting his responsibilities! To borrow from scripture, since I know some of you are into that ;), maybe Dick isn't bearing his cross. Maybe he's like Jonah, ignoring his divine calling and ending up in the belly of the whale until he cuts the crap and gets to work.

The problem is there is no one interpretation that is always right in every situation. For example, DLD, it's one thing for you to spend hours a day on this. It's what you do, professionally! If your lady is upset that you spend so much time/energy on this passion... then why is she with you?? What did she expect? Then she probably is being jealous and silly. But if I spend that much time, it comes at the cost of other things that really are much more important for me to focus on. (Obviously PE is not what I do professionally). So if my wife thinks I'm spending too much time on it, it's more likely that she's coming from a place of love and concern and has a point. Maybe not, maybe I'm balancing everything fine, but it's more likely.

If you are with a high quality woman, mother material, you should be able to trust her to act and counsel you in your best interests, just as you would do for her. Sometimes that means telling you when you're being a doofus, because sometimes we all need that. :)

Having said all that, I should mention for clarity and transparency that I myself AM keeping it secret for now, and don't plan on mentioning anything until/unless she asks. (Unless I use it as a tactic in my shameless campaign to make her take action on her breasts (like)).

Dont tell all at once. PE is a taboo in most ppl minds and most of them will react like u are doing satanism or black magic but they dont understand that is like a bodybuilder who want to grow his muscles. Ppl minds are not ready for so much info on this, but if ur wife in general is openminded tell everything but slowly, little info every sometimes, so she will hear all at the end normally.

Me personally i ve told recently to my close friends that i m doing PE for 5 years explaining in short detail what is it and how it works. Most of them tried to demote and degrade what i was doing (asking why u r doing this ? // size doesnt matter // u were already average to big so why u want more // this is a lose /waste of time u should do something most creative ) but i just realized that they were just jealous of what i was doing and they wanted to do this too but they didnt have the mood or just shy to ask me for details as i told them that this is difficult too, it needs time effort and discipline like bodybuilding or marathon running.

But anyway telling them what i was doing i felt better and as time passes, they will get used to it.
And then Emmanuil goes and tells his friends, too. :D

Assuming you tell, I definitely like the idea of bringing it up gradually. It makes big a difference, too, if you already have results to show by the time you've mentioned the work you're doing. Especially with other male friends, you can lead with 'my dick grew ______' and then the PE itself doesn't matter so much because they know it isn't BS.

TLDR: keep it to yourself and let your girl know it's all her doing
I like it, Big. :)

I do wonder how well that will work when, as FullBlood mentioned, the size difference is really striking. If it takes a few years, sure, that could be gradual enough if your lady isn't very familiar with the male body. My wife was a virgin when we met, so I can count on her being pretty clueless in that department. :D But some people pack on multiple inches in less than a year. That's a big difference! And that's what I'm aiming for. ;)

I think a wife or a girlfriend will never notice PE gains (only the gains not the exercises I'm talking about) even if you're living together. Why?

PE makes the gains unnoticeable.

In other words if you grow half an inch this won't be noticeable.

Then she has to do it for example with that 5 or 6 months unnoticeable half an inch.

Then the next months maybe another 5 or 6 months another half an inch. This can't be noticeable. That's 0.2 inch a month.

[...]

But if you do PE like pumping or other stuff that makes your Dick fluid or that pumped look, and thick look for couple of hours. Then everyone will notice that directly.

And second. I don't think you can do PE effective if you don't say that to a woman you live with. Because PE is asking several ours a day.
My situation is pretty nice in this regard. I work mostly from home, and she does not. So I have a lot of opportunity to do work away from her on the weekdays.

I think you, MCBLZ, and Big are on to something when you talk about how gradual the process is, and how that could prevent her from even noticing something is up... although one can't take that for granted. Some PE-ers get pretty dramatic results!



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Good thread so far, guys. Y'all are making me think about this stuff. Thanks!
 
here's where my opinion veers a bit from yours:

If you are with a high quality woman, mother material, you should be able to trust her to act and counsel you in your best interests, just as you would do for her. Sometimes that means telling you when you're being a doofus, because sometimes we all need that.

High quality women still function under the 'what's best for me and my (potential) children'. This is hard-wired into their DNA and stems from millions of years of evolution...the last 50 years of us being brain-washed won't erase what Mother Nature put into the initial design. Think of it this way, we take-on the role of protector/provider and it comes very natural to us...conversely, when a woman is placed in this role she's completely out of her element (yes, there are always exceptions), and as a man we must be that 'oak tree' that never sways when she blusters. So when you ask for counsel, she will give her response with a 'what's best for her/family' vs. what's best for you. Don't delude yourself in thinking she can be empathetic to you cuz she can't...it's just not in her skill-set.
Boil this down to you divulging all your PE activities, and you can easily see where the support/advice/accolade that you may seek can't be honestly discussed due to her not having the perspective...and she will never be able to.
You have to be your own best counsel...develop this. Your dick/Your vote, end of story.
 
here's where my opinion veers a bit from yours:

If you are with a high quality woman, mother material, you should be able to trust her to act and counsel you in your best interests, just as you would do for her. Sometimes that means telling you when you're being a doofus, because sometimes we all need that.

High quality women still function under the 'what's best for me and my (potential) children'. This is hard-wired into their DNA and stems from millions of years of evolution...the last 50 years of us being brain-washed won't erase what Mother Nature put into the initial design. Think of it this way, we take-on the role of protector/provider and it comes very natural to us...conversely, when a woman is placed in this role she's completely out of her element (yes, there are always exceptions), and as a man we must be that 'oak tree' that never sways when she blusters. So when you ask for counsel, she will give her response with a 'what's best for her/family' vs. what's best for you. Don't delude yourself in thinking she can be empathetic to you cuz she can't...it's just not in her skill-set.
Boil this down to you divulging all your PE activities, and you can easily see where the support/advice/accolade that you may seek can't be honestly discussed due to her not having the perspective...and she will never be able to.
You have to be your own best counsel...develop this. Your dick/Your vote, end of story.
I think I see what you're saying, Big. I've chewed on it a bit, and I'll give you my thoughts.

I agree with you entirely that the sexes are, generally, shaped for respective roles. It doesn't mean people shouldn't be free to pursue what is best for them as individuals who may not conform to norms. It means that there are norms in the first place, practical generalizations, and no amount of social engineering will undo that. (YOU HEAR ME, SECOND AND THIRD WAVE FEMINISTS?? :D) So a female in a relationship may be more prone to think of the good of the family unit rather than your own personal good anyway.

At the same time, your personal interests and the interests of your family/wife may not be as adverse as they seem at first. To paraphrase Rand, "no two rational people can have a conflict of interests." I don't agree with her 100%, because the world is muddier and more complicated than she appreciated, but I think it holds true here.

Let's assume your PE really is coming at some cost to your family, and your wife takes issue with that. Say, you are spending too much of your free time making your dick bigger instead of building a relationship with your children, is that really in your best interest? Or maybe you're having trouble at your job (or even lose it) because you aren't performing well, and part of that is because you keep taking breaks for PE. That's certainly bad for your family, but is it even a good tradeoff for you? Is that really making your life better or happier? If your family is at all functional, your interests are at least somewhat tied up with it!

And, of course, that works both ways.

Let's say your life is well balanced. You're taking care of your family and yourself, you're doing well professionally, and you're also making time for PE because it's important to you. But despite all of this, Wifey is just being tyrannical and inconsiderate of what you want. She makes you stop, or makes you miserable if you keep going. Is that good for the family? Doe the family benefit if the father is miserable or resentful because he knows that the family cost him something it shouldn't have, and didn't care for him like he cared for it? Of course not! That's an unhappy family, with crappy relationships.

You might point out that people don't always think or behave rationally. Well, that's totally fair. Christianity has a fantastic point about original sin. Humans have an astounding capacity for evil and malice, and we are often driven more by emotional whim than honest logic. Fair enough! And that brings us back to Smoky Robinson's point. You better shop around. ;)
 
All serious relationships I've been in, I've told em. It's "my body, my choice" as feminists like to say. We men have a choice as well. Not my problem if they have an insecurity or other issue over it. I'd support their decision to change their body. It goes both ways in an honest, mutual relationship. If you can't tell them about this, what's next? A credit card they don't know about, drugs, cheating? That's how they'll think when they do find out.
This stuff is a pretty insignificant thing to accept that someone is doing, or should be.

If telling them you're doing penis enlargement has the potential to ruin your relationship, you have some pretty serious other issues most likely, and are probably just in a relationship of convenience that is doomed anyway.
 
It goes both ways in an honest, mutual relationship. If you can't tell them about this, what's next? A credit card they don't know about, drugs, cheating? That's how they'll think when they do find out.
I've been thinking about this, in particular, too. If you do PE for a long time before you tell Wifey, she might be pissed just because you were keeping it a secret. And maybe, depending on your specific situation and relationship, she could have a point!

My wife knows I'm pretty secretive and private, and she signed up for that when we married, so I've got a little leeway there. Further, if/when I tell her I'll be sure to sell it well. (It was a surprise for YOU, honey! Didn't want to tell you about the gift until it was ready to be unwrapped! (monkey))
 
I was going through these responses with my wife last night and basically what she told me was that if the two people in the relationship are married then the wife would most likely just be happy and like that the husband is doing PE if he comes out and tells her about it . She said if the two people are in a relationship and not married then the woman may not be very happy about this and probably not want him to continue because she will think he is doing this to please another woman, or may be cheating especially if the man and woman did not talk about it before he began. She said that if the woman happened to notice the man in the bathroom for long periods of time while she was not aware of PE that the woman would most likely think he is texting a woman. Basically she said that if the two are married there should not be a problem at all and the wife should enjoy it/be happy for him,unless the man is trying to hide PE because that could cause trust issues and could cause the woman to think the man may be cheating/ trying to impress another woman/ texting another woman etc. Long story short in either married or unmarried relationship tell the woman before beginning or ASAP after beginning. Also you can always say that it is just for better penis health altogether, that you are not happy with your erections/blood flow or need to strengthen penis tissues and that a larger penis just might be a side effect lol.
 
I was going through these responses with my wife last night and basically what she told me was that if the two people in the relationship are married then the wife would most likely just be happy and like that the husband is doing PE if he comes out and tells her about it . She said if the two people are in a relationship and not married then the woman may not be very happy about this and probably not want him to continue because she will think he is doing this to please another woman, or may be cheating especially if the man and woman did not talk about it before he began. She said that if the woman happened to notice the man in the bathroom for long periods of time while she was not aware of PE that the woman would most likely think he is texting a woman. Basically she said that if the two are married there should not be a problem at all and the wife should enjoy it/be happy for him,unless the man is trying to hide PE because that could cause trust issues and could cause the woman to think the man may be cheating/ trying to impress another woman/ texting another woman etc. Long story short in either married or unmarried relationship tell the woman before beginning or ASAP after beginning. Also you can always say that it is just for better penis health altogether, that you are not happy with your erections/blood flow or need to strengthen penis tissues and that a larger penis just might be a side effect lol.
A FEMALE perspective, eh? That's probably a good idea. :D Thanks, Disciple.

Secrets are dangerous indeed!
 
All serious relationships I've been in, I've told em. It's "my body, my choice" as feminists like to say. We men have a choice as well. Not my problem if they have an insecurity or other issue over it. I'd support their decision to change their body. It goes both ways in an honest, mutual relationship. If you can't tell them about this, what's next? A credit card they don't know about, drugs, cheating? That's how they'll think when they do find out.
This stuff is a pretty insignificant thing to accept that someone is doing, or should be.

If telling them you're doing penis enlargement has the potential to ruin your relationship, you have some pretty serious other issues most likely, and are probably just in a relationship of convenience that is doomed anyway.

Perfectly put (100)(like)
 
It's a tricky question, I would say.

Well put about marriage. In marriage most things, ideally, should be openly spoken about.
I'd say in most relationships communication is a key to better life.
Hiding things is often taxing on the mind and even on the body.

SWM also said it well! There are other issues very likely if PE would come in a way of a relationship.
And yes, "my body, my choice."

The points about better erections etc., are good points as well. It's one part of your body and you train other parts of your body, at least many do. So general healthy life is one thing in the equation, if that is hard to grasp, then there are issues. (As in my equation PE is part of healthy life, bettering yourself.)

I'm not in a relationship really, but a woman I knew intimately did know about my PE life. Didn't really put it down, perhaps more on the curious side.

Tricky, as I put it, to tell or not to. I might choose the more secretive route, as in not telling, but this would depend on the seriousness of the relationship. If I'd to be married or something, then of course this PE side of me should be known information to my partner.
In more casual relationships, perhaps something like Friends With Benefits etc., I wouldn't find it that necessary to tell.
But still I'm on the "honesty prevails" side most of the time.
 
@MCBLZ , Oh no you didn't! (cwl) If you did I'm sure it'll raise some questions and conversation.
Maybe you can tell her to "slip into a big jim" because of those tools!
 
Holy busy threads Batman! I have not seen the brotherhood this busy since last year. We have so many veterans who have come back we have vast knowledge or sharing with all. I couldn’t be more proud of my brothers here! Remember that you guys were keeping the brotherhood together and I am forever in your debt.
 
Holy busy threads Batman! I have not seen the brotherhood this busy since last year. We have so many veterans who have come back we have vast knowledge or sharing with all. I couldn’t be more proud of my brothers here! Remember that you guys were keeping the brotherhood together and I am forever in your debt.
Let's not forget, DLD, that you've been behind the scenes standing by this website through thick and thin for over a decade. Your achievements in PE alone (is there any name bigger than DLD?) are what attracted me to this place as opposed to PEGym or Thunders. Thanks for creating this community in the first place!
 
same here, When i was about 16, 17 years old I heard about jelqing for the very first time and found out about the bathmate, I thought it looked like an awesome device to have (it is) and I really wanted one, I didnt particularly need one but I really wanted it (what guy doesnt)but knew I couldn't get one because I lived with my aunt, but anyways I found out about this guy (it was DLD lol) and I was like man this guy knows a lot about this stuff that people don't even believe is true so I tried jelqing but didn't really think I was doing it right (I wasn't lol) and I definitely didn't practice it regularly or with the intensity or even duration needed, ten years later I found pegym I thought it was pretty cool, thought about joining, but after a few days of reading the forums, I decided to look for other forums that maybe I'd like better, I found this site and first thing I realized is the brotherhood thats going on here, people here seem to really care and want to help in many ways such as instruction, details, mentally, emotionally, sharing knowledge gained from experience. I knew this was the site I wanted to join. I saw on all posts DLD responding to everyone. I remembered him immediately and couldn't believe it was the same guy I'd seen so long ago. I thought he was cool in the past but seeing him here interacting and how he cares about this place is just awesome. I'm glad you created this place for us guys here DLD.
 
Let's not forget, DLD, that you've been behind the scenes standing by this website through thick and thin for over a decade. Your achievements in PE alone (is there any name bigger than DLD?) are what attracted me to this place as opposed to PEGym or Thunders. Thanks for creating this community in the first place!

❤️ Thank you my brother! I think the biggest difference with me and these other sites are I truly love what I do and I care so much about the man that I work with. I’ve never done this to make money, I did it because I made incredible gains in one of the rest of the world have access to that. I know that the reason our traffic is so crazy here it’s so busy it’s because were the real deal. When you come here or you’re dealing with some of the biggest names in PE. You will never find RedZulu or stillwantmore for Big al at Thunders, they are here. I have always looked at the site as a family, a Brotherhood, with real people.
 
same here, When i was about 16, 17 years old I heard about jelqing for the very first time and found out about the bathmate, I thought it looked like an awesome device to have (it is) and I really wanted one, I didnt particularly need one but I really wanted it (what guy doesnt)but knew I couldn't get one because I lived with my aunt, but anyways I found out about this guy (it was DLD lol) and I was like man this guy knows a lot about this stuff that people don't even believe is true so I tried jelqing but didn't really think I was doing it right (I wasn't lol) and I definitely didn't practice it regularly or with the intensity or even duration needed, ten years later I found pegym I thought it was pretty cool, thought about joining, but after a few days of reading the forums, I decided to look for other forums that maybe I'd like better, I found this site and first thing I realized is the brotherhood thats going on here, people here seem to really care and want to help in many ways such as instruction, details, mentally, emotionally, sharing knowledge gained from experience. I knew this was the site I wanted to join. I saw on all posts DLD responding to everyone. I remembered him immediately and couldn't believe it was the same guy I'd seen so long ago. I thought he was cool in the past but seeing him here interacting and how he cares about this place is just awesome. I'm glad you created this place for us guys here DLD.

Well you guys are making me feel great! I was feeling a bit down today a bit disheveled but coming here feeling this love, it’s all good! Thank you my brother so you know I love you!
 
There are many many places you can get in PE in if you’re very creative. Go to bed a half hour later get up at half hour earlier. Every bathroom break get some stretching in. At night under the covers stretch your penis. All through the day and do Kegels, get a Phallosan and let that do all the work. Search out your day and find every moment you can to dedicate to PE as this will ultimately add to your gains

Those stretchings after taking a leak cant give you much but is better than nothing lol
 
Yep depends on who is the one we going to share our PE life whit is a complicated thing not everybody would understand,you share them that info that could be like a double edged sword imho
 
Those stretchings after taking a leak cant give you much but is better than nothing LOL

The way I see PE is anything you can get in during the day is beneficial even if it’s only piss pulls. There’s been days that I’ve been way too busy for me to get a full routine him so I take it vantage of every moment I can and get very creative. During busy times when we can’t get everything in it smart to get something in just to keep her head in the game.
 
The way I see PE is anything you can get in during the day is beneficial even if it’s only piss pulls. There’s been days that I’ve been way too busy for me to get a full routine him so I take it vantage of every moment I can and get very creative. During busy times when we can’t get everything in it smart to get something in just to keep her head in the game.

TRUE D We have a limited amount of time sometimes..better use that wisely..
 
TRUE D We have a limited amount of time sometimes..better use that wisely..

Believe I know! When I first started MOS I was working a full time job and between the two I had to make places I could get work in, carve out a few 10 minute spots. I had a bathroom that was upstairs from my shop that no one used so I could escape there. Any and all vacant places I got it in because I wanted it that bad.
 
My wife has known from the jump. It started last year when I got a novelty pump for our anneversary. I used it as she watched in awe. I used it and she enjoyed it. I told her I wanted to start PE. No muss no fuss from her.

Almost a year later no problems. She doesn’t know what or how I do it, but she sure as hell likes it.
 
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