New Routine idea (any good?)

Hi. Ive been doing girth work mostly with very little if any gains made. I wanted to get a routine for both girth and length.

i was planning on doing
Length work -
afternoons - JPs 90 day beginner routine - daily.
Evening time : the 5x5x3 routine for girth.

after the 90 days for length once i feel accustomed to length work i was going to change to the lengthmaster (which ive had for a year and have yet to use once) and just continue with 5x5x3 for girth.

do you think this is a solid idea for a routine? Any help is much appreciated
 
Hi. Ive been doing girth work mostly with very little if any gains made. I wanted to get a routine for both girth and length.

i was planning on doing
Length work -
afternoons - JPs 90 day beginner routine - daily.
Evening time : the 5x5x3 routine for girth.

after the 90 days for length once i feel accustomed to length work i was going to change to the lengthmaster (which ive had for a year and have yet to use once) and just continue with 5x5x3 for girth.

do you think this is a solid idea for a routine? Any help is much appreciated

I offer coaching service with the length master. That device is a beast. Let me know if you are interested.
 
I actually already have the length master i just havent gotten round to trying it out.

so should i just go straight into length master for length work instead of any of the newbie length routines?

i know everyone is different, however would a 0.5 inch gain be achieveable within 6 months using lengthmaster and the 5x5x3 girth routine?

quick question regarding SSJs. Does it matter if each of my ssjs are 10-15secs long and does being uncut change how they should be done?

Thanks!!
 
I actually already have the length master i just havent gotten round to trying it out.

so should i just go straight into length master for length work instead of any of the newbie length routines?

i know everyone is different, however would a 0.5 inch gain be achieveable within 6 months using lengthmaster and the 5x5x3 girth routine?

quick question regarding SSJs. Does it matter if each of my ssjs are 10-15secs long and does being uncut change how they should be done?

Thanks!!
What's your goals? And where are you at rigjt now?
 
How long would a daily lengthmaster session take? Is there a great routine in the lengthmaster section i could impliment and easily follow? I hope to do lengthmaster in the afternoon and 5x5x3 in the evenings.

should i expect to see a gain of 0.5 for both length and girth within 6 months? Appreciate the help!

I have been told that these gains are common:
3 months length 0.25"-0.5 "
6 months length 0.75"-1"
1 year length 1"-2"
3 months girth 0.25"
6 months girth 0.5"
1 year girth 0.75"-1"

Note this is incremental and the measurements for each month or year.

But I want to be clear about something, you can gain faster. I know for a fact it's true for length.

I'm doing 1 hour session every day (20 minutes x 3 times) every day, except Sundays. But I'm only working on length right now.

I have been told that 2 sessions also are ok as well.

Since you want to work on both girth amd length it's good to split up lengthwork and girthwork. Your strategy looks good.

Here are videos you can follow in regards to the lengthmaster, there are a newbie routine at the top of the thread.
🔗 All Length Master Exercises Videos

Indeed 5x5x3 is the best girth program.
🔗 Girth Program: 5x5x3
 
I actually already have the length master i just havent gotten round to trying it out.

so should i just go straight into length master for length work instead of any of the newbie length routines?

i know everyone is different, however would a 0.5 inch gain be achieveable within 6 months using lengthmaster and the 5x5x3 girth routine?

quick question regarding SSJs. Does it matter if each of my ssjs are 10-15secs long and does being uncut change how they should be done?

Thanks!!

Let your SSJ last for a minimum of 45 seconds. Cut down on masturbation. If you are not in a relationship, try ejaculating once a week if you can.
 
I find it difficult making each SSJ last longer than 15 secs. I do think its easier when i use less lubricant. Do you have any good tips to make each one last around 45secs.
Does it also matter than at the end of the ssj the head rolls back over due to being uncut?
 
I find it difficult making each SSJ last longer than 15 secs. I do think its easier when i use less lubricant. Do you have any good tips to make each one last around 45secs.
Does it also matter than at the end of the ssj the head rolls back over due to being uncut?

You have to always do kegels at all times. Another main thing, are You using Viagra for pumping? It doesn't matter if the head rolls back over due to being uncut
 
You have to always do kegels at all times. Another main thing, are You using Viagra for pumping? It doesn't matter if the head rolls back over due to being uncut
No, I havent been using any supplements etc for pumping. I’m finding it fine in getting a full erection for the duration of 5x5x3, i just have to get re-erect to 100% after each SSJ.
Am i correct in being 100% erect for both SSJ and pumping?
 
You need supplement to enable you succeed in doing the SSJ successfully.
Can you sleep well after you take Viagra before girthwork? What are the side effects? I have only been taken it once from a drug dealer (a woman), I don't remember much of that.
I'm afraid it can increase my blood pressure, is that true? A doctor once told me that.
 
Can you sleep well after you take Viagra before girthwork? What are the side effects? I have only been taken it once from a drug dealer (a woman), I don't remember much of that.
I'm afraid it can increase my blood pressure, is that true? A doctor once told me that.

have you been achieving good girth results without taking any type of viagra yourself?
 
have you been achieving good girth results without taking any type of viagra yourself?
Yes!
But I don't know how much girth I gained. Since I did not messured before I started.
But I gained so much, that I could not use regular size condomes of these sizes (these are standard in Sweden):
IMG_20230326_203724.jpg
, and these fitted well before, and now I can't even get one of those on my penis. I have also seen with my eyes that my penis got thicker.

I was forced to buy a bigger condome, and get a specific size. So this is pratical proof that I gained girth, but I don't know exactly how much I gained. To bad these bigger condoms (MY.SIZE PRO) are more expensive.

Indeed I used no supplements to work on my girth, you can say I was just obsessed with Bathmate pumps (still are). This was how I got into PE.

I only did 5 minutes x 3 inside the pump, and after I got out of the pump I did downward regular Jelq's, I did not know about the 5x5x3 program then. But I did this every day for a while. Sometimes I did 10 minutes inside the pump, but I do not recommend that, you risk to much fluid retention.

You should do:
Girth Program: 5x5x3
 
Yes!
But I don't know how much girth I gained. Since I did not messured before I started.
But I gained so much, that I could not use regular size condomes of these sizes (these are standard in Sweden):
View attachment 1832630
, and these fitted well before, and now I can't even get one of those on my penis. I have also seen with my eyes that my penis got thicker.

I was forced to buy a bigger condome, and get a specific size. So this is pratical proof that I gained girth, but I don't know exactly how much I gained. To bad these bigger condoms (MY.SIZE PRO) are more expensive.

Indeed I used no supplements to work on my girth, you can say I was just obsessed with Bathmate pumps (still are). This was how I got into PE.

I only did 5 minutes x 3 inside the pump, and after I got out of the pump I did downward regular Jelq's, I did not know about the 5x5x3 program then. But I did this every day for a while. Sometimes I did 10 minutes inside the pump, but I do not recommend that, you risk to much fluid retention.

You should do:
Girth Program: 5x5x3
Amazing. Well done on your results!

Yeah ive been lazy the last 6-8 months and was only doing 1 set of 7-8mins of SSJs and 7-8mins in bathmate instead of 5x5x3, however ive been doing the 5x5x3 every day fully for the past 7 days, so I’m hoping I’m in the swing of things and I will measure around June to see if i can see even a minor increase in girth.
 
Amazing. Well done on your results!

Yeah ive been lazy the last 6-8 months and was only doing 1 set of 7-8mins of SSJs and 7-8mins in bathmate instead of 5x5x3, however ive been doing the 5x5x3 every day fully for the past 7 days, so I’m hoping I’m in the swing of things and I will measure around June to see if i can see even a minor increase in girth.
Thank you brother, it just happened from my obsession. 😂

Just do it every day, make it part of your your routine. Do not think about motivation. Motivation is garbage. Instead be extremely disciplined about your PE. Get a Logbook and log every session you do. In that way you feel some kind of accomplishment when you write it down.

Before a PE session I always write down the exercise and make a box in front or behind the exercise, like:
Girth Program: 5x5x3
And when you are done you check that box. And you feel accomplished. This helps you to keep the motivation going. Also write down date and time as well.

I usually was pumping at the night before bedtime. In the beginning when you do not get so much expansion, don't overdo it, keep the pressure high, but do not go to high on the pressure. Just trust that with time, your tunica will expand to a permanent girth. It's a good feeling when you expand and grow.

The manual work with your hands are important as well.

You can try L-Citrulline as well for better erections.
Have you tried Viagra?
 
I haven’t tried anything such as Viagra. Im not keen on the idea of using any type of supplements for erections, so I’m hoping I am able to do it without having to use any of them.

Yeah so far after a girth sessions I’m only getting about a 0.2 increase so I’m hoping over time that will increase a bit and then the original 0.2 increase will become the new permanent size and so on.
 
I haven’t tried anything such as Viagra. Im not keen on the idea of using any type of supplements for erections, so I’m hoping I am able to do it without having to use any of them.

Yeah so far after a girth sessions I’m only getting about a 0.2 increase so I’m hoping over time that will increase a bit and then the original 0.2 increase will become the new permanent size and so on.
This will happen if you are consistent.
Why not set bigger goals?
Set your goal size right now, and make out a plan to get there.
Do you want to get to 8"x6" if so? Make that your goal, or maybe 9"x6". I believe in setting big goals.

L-Citrulline is harmless.
 
This will happen if you are consistent.
Why not set bigger goals?
Set your goal size right now, and make out a plan to get there.
Do you want to get to 8"x6" if so? Make that your goal, or maybe 9"x6". I believe in setting big goals.

L-Citrulline is harmless.
Reverse psychology 💓
 
I am able to get back to the 75- 80% erection pretty quickly after each SSJ for each 5 minute session. Would the supplements simply make the process faster?

The Viagra will help you get faster erection.
Buy Viagra that you will be taking to get solid erection for girth work. When you want to do your session, collect one tablet of Viagra, it is 100mg per tablet. Break one tablet of Viagra into 4 pieces. Each piece you will use them once daily therefore, the 4 pieces will last you for 4 days.

Take one of it and chew it, drink water to use in swallowing it. When you swallow it, wait for 20 minutes for the Viagra to start working in your body before you start your session. While you are waiting during the 20 minutes for the Viagra to start, massage the penis with warm water for up to 10 minutes.
 
Can you sleep well after you take Viagra before girthwork? What are the side effects? I have only been taken it once from a drug dealer (a woman), I don't remember much of that.
I'm afraid it can increase my blood pressure, is that true? A doctor once told me that.

Yes I can sleep. I don't experience any side effect. 25mg dose of Viagra won't cause any problem. One tablet is 100mg, break one tablet into 4 pieces. They will last you for 4 days.
 
I haven’t tried anything such as Viagra. Im not keen on the idea of using any type of supplements for erections, so I’m hoping I am able to do it without having to use any of them.

Yeah so far after a girth sessions I’m only getting about a 0.2 increase so I’m hoping over time that will increase a bit and then the original 0.2 increase will become the new permanent size and so on.

You are pumping at too low of a pressure if all you get as temporary expansion is 0.2 after a 5x5x3 pumping session.
 
i am pumping as hard as I can until no water comes out any more with each pump and I am near touching the tip of the bathmate. How do you know if you are able to add more pressure?

It's strange that you are getting only 0.2 inches of expansion. Does it hurt when you pump? Do you feel discomfort?
 
No, it doesn’t hurt, i just feel some pressure.

So i enter the pump fully erect. Do one pump every few seconds until I cant pump any more/ where the water stops coming out the front which i assume means its at max pressure and then i stand and hold it for the 5 minutes, do 5mins of SSJs then repeat.
 
When I last cleaned the bathmate, the valve bit that you open and close during each pump was positioned back on different from when it was first bought, so when Im opening it to pump, it doesnt feel fullly “clicked” back closed to hold in place. Could that be effecting it at all?
 
When I last cleaned the bathmate, the valve bit that you open and close during each pump was positioned back on different from when it was first bought, so when Im opening it to pump, it doesnt feel fullly “clicked” back closed to hold in place. Could that be effecting it at all?
Do the black "switch" on the valve stay in place? Or do it just go back to the Center? When you fill up with water do the water stay inside the pump until you position the black "switch" in the middle. It's only function is to not release the water when you fill the pump up with water. It should not impacted the maximum pressure. Since there is a gasket there.

I had a problem with a Bathmate pump that didn't keept the water when I filled it up with water. The switch didn't stay in place. I got a replacement valve and it fixed it.

You should never take of the replacement valve if you are going to clean the pump. They are to sensitive to do that back and forth, they are not made to function like that. The only time when you should take of the replacement valve is if it starts to leak, and/or the black switch doesn't stay in place and to the side, then you should replace it with a new replacement valve.

If cleaning, take mild liquid hand soap a little of it, and rinse through the pump with water.

I hope this helps.
 
The water does stay in when i close the valve, however at times the maximum length i get up to in the bathmate does go down a bit quite quickly and doesnt stay at the max i got to for long, so i then repump to get back close to where I was pumped up to on the bathmate. Im not sure what I could be doing wrong to not get more than 0.2 expansion
 
The water does stay in when i close the valve, however at times the maximum length i get up to in the bathmate does go down a bit quite quickly and doesnt stay at the max i got to for long, so i then repump to get back close to where I was pumped up to on the bathmate. Im not sure what I could be doing wrong to not get more than 0.2 expansion
I will help you in figuring this out.
 
No, it doesn’t hurt, i just feel some pressure.

So i enter the pump fully erect. Do one pump every few seconds until I cant pump any more/ where the water stops coming out the front which i assume means its at max pressure and then i stand and hold it for the 5 minutes, do 5mins of SSJs then repeat.

I've tried to figure out what the problem is. I will tell you one thing, get the bathmate extreme pump. It seems to me that your penis has adapted to the pumping pressure of the regular bathmate. The bathmate extreme has a hand pump which enables you to pump at higher pressure.

Lastly, I hope there is space inside the pump for you to expand? Your penis is not touching the walls of the pump right?
 
The water does stay in when i close the valve, however at times the maximum length i get up to in the bathmate does go down a bit quite quickly and doesnt stay at the max i got to for long, so i then repump to get back close to where I was pumped up to on the bathmate. Im not sure what I could be doing wrong to not get more than 0.2 expansion
Okey now I understand, you don't have a HydroXtreme version of the pump. No worries, you can make it work with a Hydromax version as well, I started with the Hydromax 5.
- What version do you have?
Well then you are maxed out by the gator (rubber agains your body).

Do you have any air pocket at the base in your pump? If so you need to add more water in the
beginning of your pumping, make sure you do not spill out water when you stick in your penis.

I don't think It's anything wrong with your pump. It may be that your pump technique needs some tuning. It took some time for me to get my pumping technique perfect when I started to use Bathmate pumps.
This behavior is normal for these pumps (your penis shrinks at length), especially if you max out the girth on a Hydromax pump (without the external pump).

Don't focus on the length of your penis expansion. You also expand at the girth it may be so that after some time in the pump your penis deforms and expands more at the girth, therefore less expansion at the lenght. In the beginning in the Hydomax 5 my penis didn't expand at all at length, it looked like a mushroom shape. This will be better if you keep at it.

I have also experienced this shrinkage at the lenght inside the pump. Even with maximum pressure. This is most frustrating when you use a Hydomax pump, since when the "gator" (rubber part against your body) is maxed out, that is compressed to the max, and you can not add pressure later on, in the 5 minutes you stay inside the pump.

But just make sure you keep the water level high in the pump, and increase the pressure at max, keep the water as warm as possible without burning your penis, then just stay inside the pump for 5 minutes according to the Girth Program: 5x5x3.

Keep the pressure high and with time you will get more expansion. This was my experience in the beginning with these pumps. You need to be patient and keep the pressure high. Your penis will eventually adapt and start to expand more.
 
I have the Bathmate HYDROMAX5 Penis Pump Clear 3-5 Inches.
I am around 5.2 in length so i assumed this was the best one to get. I got this in Feb 2020.
I dont run out of space completely in length in the bathmate but at max pump i get pretty close to it recently.
 
I have the Bathmate HYDROMAX5 Penis Pump Clear 3-5 Inches.
I am around 5.2 in length so i assumed this was the best one to get. I got this in Feb 2020.
I dont run out of space completely in length in the bathmate but at max pump i get pretty close to it recently.
It's the best one for you.
You have a lot of room to expand in, no worries. Do your glans touch the valve at the top? 3-5 inches from the top?
 
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