New Routine idea (any good?)

[Cleareyes]

It's the best one for you.
You have a lot of room to expand in, no worries. Do your glans touch the valve at the top? 3-5 inches from the top?

i would say my glans is about 1.5 - 2 inches away from the top of the bathmate at full pressure, usually it subsides a bit to maybe 3-4inches after a minute or two and stays there for the 5mins. Do you think I should stick with the bathmate i have currently then?

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

i would say my glans is about 1.5 - 2 inches away from the top of the bathmate at full pressure, usually it subsides a bit to maybe 3-4inches after a minute or two and stays there for the 5mins. Do you think I should stick with the bathmate i have currently then?

Yes 1,5 - 2 inches are a lot.
Remember you can expand the entire cylinder in girth also.
Keep pushing hard. If you feel like you lost to much pressure. You can stop the timer, then release the pressure...start over, and then push up the pressure again, and then start the timer again (where it was). This is how I did it and still are doing it even today.

 

[Cleareyes]

I’m going to be doing a girth session in a few hours. I will focus on the bathmate part of the routine today and see if I can get a bit more expansion than normal and report back

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I’m going to be doing a girth session in a few hours. I will focus on the bathmate part of the routine today and see if I can get a bit more expansion than normal and report back

That sounds awesome brother. You will get far.
If you are persistent you will max out that pump/tube in girth and length. It's a wonderful feeling, to max out girth and you start to fill the entire tube from bottom to the top.

By the way: Don't know if I have asked this before, but have you removed the comfort insert?

 

[Cleareyes]

That sounds awesome brother. You will get far.
If you are persistent you will max out that pump/tube in girth and length. It's a wonderful feeling, to max out girth and you start to fill the entire tube from bottom to the top.

By the way: Don't know if I have asked this before, but have you removed the comfort insert?

yes, I actually havent used that comfort insert in over a year.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

yes, I actually havent used that comfort insert in over a year.

Good that insert is worthless, it just hinders your expansion.

 

[Cleareyes]

So i completed another 5x5x3 routine. Went harder on the SSJs and even got within an inch of filling bathmate in length. This is only the difference I’m seeing when measuring after.

The blue is what i am before in girth and the red line is after a girth routine. Not sure what else i could be doing better to increase this.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

So i completed another 5x5x3 routine. Went harder on the SSJs and even got within an inch of filling bathmate in length. This is only the difference I’m seeing when measuring after.

The blue is what i am before in girth and the red line is after a girth routine. Not sure what else i could be doing better to increase this.

You need to be relentless with this, your girth will later grow as well. It took a while for me, but now I'm filling up the hydromax 5's base (all around) and further up the tube. It's a slow process, but if you are relentless you will get there. Keep at it a month and do the pumping and SSJ's every day. One session every day, and see where you are at then after a month. This is a long game.

 

[Cleareyes]

just as long as it is normal to only see such a small gain in girth after a session then i’m okay with that. Surely ill start seeing a bit more an increase after another 2-3 months?

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

just as long as it is normal to only see such a all gain in girth after a session then i’m okay with that. Surely ill start seeing a bit more an increase after another 2-3 months?

I just relate your experience to my my own experience with Bathmate pumps. I think it's a difference in Bathmate pumps (hydro-pumping) and Air-pumps. That's the reson I give you this clear information, that you need to keep at it in a relentless way.

I got practically non expansion when I started to pump with Bathmate. And now the hydromax 5 is almost to small (girthwise).

 

[Cleareyes]

I just relate your experience to my my own experience with Bathmate pumps. I think it's a difference in Bathmate pumps (hydro-pumping) and Air-pumps. That's the reson I give you this clear information, that you need to keep at it in a relentless way.

I got practically non expansion when I started to pump with Bathmate. And now the hydromax 5 is almost to small (girthwise).

and is your routine the exact same as mine? 5x5x3 using a hydromax 5? Is it the hydromax 5 what youve used throughout any recent gains?

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

and is your routine the exact same as mine? 5x5x3 using a hydromax 5? Is it the hydromax 5 what youve used throughout any recent gains?

I got 3 Bathmate pumps.
Yes the same routine.
But I got most of my gains with the hydromax 5. You are not limited by that pump, if you do not max out the girth of that pump at the base.

If you would upload a picture of you inside the pump (from the side and from the top) with full pressure maybe I can evaluate where you are at? Maybe this can help you to trust the process.

 

[Cleareyes]

I can do that tomorrow! I definitely have a good bit of room in width before filling the hydromax.
Thanks for the help! Should i just upload them here tomorrow

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I can do that tomorrow! I definitely have a good bit of room in width before filling the hydromax.
Thanks for the help! Should i just upload them here tomorrow

Awesome. Yes you can do that.
One more thing. You will feel if have to much pressure. If so: You will panic in tying to get the pump off. I have done that

If you do not feel this panic, you are good. And if you keep 5 minutes inside the pump as maximum you will be completely safe. Do not go over 5 minutes inside the pump.
Also remember that SSJ's are equally important to the pumping that you are doing for permanent growth.

Try to have as high of a pressure as you can, since you want to force your penis to grow. It wants to stay the same but you need to force it to grow. Hydromax 5 is safe in this regard, but it's not to low pressure that you will not grow from it.

But be safe...don't harden through sharp pain. If you feel pain the pressure is to high. But do not have to low pressure also.
Somewhat time limited right now but I will get a notification when you answer this thread.
Just trust that with repititions of the Girth Program you will see permanent growth.

Take care brother.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

so should i just go straight into length master for length work instead of any of the newbie length routines?

There is nothing more powerful for length then this device.
LengthMaster videos

 

[Cleareyes]

There is nothing more powerful for length then this device.
LengthMaster videos

i have the lengthmaster. Im a bit intimidated to start using it if im honest, im not as confident with length work. But im going to start reading threads etc on the lengthmaster and hopefully start next week. (I’ll probably need the most help with the wrapping part but we’ll see how i get on)

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

i have the lengthmaster. Im a bit intimidated to start using it if im honest, im not as confident with length work. But im going to start reading threads etc on the lengthmaster and hopefully start next week. (I’ll probably need the most help with the wrapping part but we’ll see how i get on)

I was really scared from it in the beginning, but now I just love it, and I wish I got it sooner. It's so superior for bundled stretches. The wrapping is the trick with it... I have found a wrapping technique that works for me. If you want, you can check out my Logbook, I have written about it there.

 

[Cleareyes]

I was really scared from it in the beginning, but now I just love it, and I wish I got it sooner. It's so superior for bundled stretches. The wrapping is the trick with it... I have found a wrapping technique that works for me. If you want, you can check out my Logbook, I have written about it there.

i shall take a look!
Does it make it more difficult being uncut doing the length work with lengthmaster. I be unsure if I pull with the skin pulled back and then grabbing from the correct place or pull at the top by my foreskin, but then i feel like I'm only stretching the skin. Do you get what I mean?

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

i shall take a look!
Does it make it more difficult being uncut doing the length work with lengthmaster. I be unsure if I pull with the skin pulled back and then grabbing from the correct place or pull at the top by my foreskin, but then i feel like I'm only stretching the skin. Do you get what I mean?

Yes I get you. I'm uncut as well, I think my wrapping technique would work for you as well. It took a while for me to get the wrapping perfectly right. Maybe I should make a video about it later on. It's hard to describe with just picures and text. But I will need to get to this later, if it's needed.

Take care brother.

 

[Cleareyes]

Yes I get you. I'm uncut as well, I think my wrapping technique would work for you as well. It took a while for me to get the wrapping perfectly right. Maybe I should make a video about it later on. It's hard to describe with just picures and text. But I will need to get to this later, if it's needed.

Take care brother.

thank you. I really do appreciate every single reply. Do you stretch with the foreskin not pulled back then?

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

thank you. I really do appreciate every single reply. Do you stretch with the foreskin not pulled back then?

I stretch with the foreskin pulled back.
I will upload videos later, so you can see my wrapping method.

 

[DLD]

25mg of Viagra daily won't cause any problem.

That is what I took for girth work and it led to great girth growth

 

[huge-girth]

just as long as it is normal to only see such a small gain in girth after a session then i’m okay with that. Surely ill start seeing a bit more an increase after another 2-3 months?

Get the bathmate extreme pump or better still, the Mityvac. You need a penis pump that has a hand pump, your penis needs higher pressure. This is the problem.

 

[huge-girth]

i have the lengthmaster. Im a bit intimidated to start using it if im honest, im not as confident with length work. But im going to start reading threads etc on the lengthmaster and hopefully start next week. (I’ll probably need the most help with the wrapping part but we’ll see how i get on)

Apply for my coaching service let me coach you with the length master and also guide you on how to pump. Your penis has adapted to the pumping pressure of the regular bathmate. You need the Mityvac penis pump or the bathmate extreme series.

 

[Cleareyes]

I’ve never increased over around 0.2/0.3 after using the bathmate hydromax 5 so im not sure why it has adapted to the pressure. Would the extreme series be the best thing to get bigger girth results? I’m willing to try anything that speeds up the process.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I’ve never increased over around 0.2/0.3 after using the bathmate hydromax 5 so im not sure why it has adapted to the pressure. Would the extreme series be the best thing to get bigger girth results? I’m willing to try anything that speeds up the process.

How long have you been using it?

 

[Cleareyes]

How long have you been using it?

Well i got it in feb 2020 and have used it often and especially the last year (just recently properly using the 5x5x3) so i suppose ive answered my own question haha

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Well i got it in feb 2020 and have used it often and especially the last year (just recently properly using the 5x5x3) so i suppose ive answered my own question haha

That's 2 years, you should have seen more expansion than 0.2/0.3 in those years. You are probably using to low pressure.

I think you really should consider this:

Apply for my coaching service let me coach you with the length master and also guide you on how to pump. Your penis has adapted to the pumping pressure of the regular bathmate. You need the Mityvac penis pump or the bathmate extreme series.

 

[Cleareyes]

I will have to consider it as I am certain i am pumping to max pressure as i pump until i can no longer pump any water from the front/i almost fill the length, which i assumed meant i was at max pressure

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I will have to consider it as I am certain i am pumping to max pressure as i pump until i can no longer pump any water from the front/i almost fill the length, which i assumed meant i was at max pressure

Okey! If you almost fill the length, you need a bigger pump/tube. MITYVAC is probably the most economical choice regarding a new pump system. Since you can use diffrent sizes of tubes with that pumping system.

But you need to talk with @hugh-girth
about that, since I have no experience with the MITYVAC (he will see this message).

 

[Cleareyes]

I am surprised i am getting close to filling the tube as fully erect I am approx 5.1 - 5.2. So if i get the hydroxtreme im unsure if I should go for the 5 or the 7. I think the 7 might be too big.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I am surprised i am getting close to filling the tube as fully erect I am approx 5.1 - 5.2. So if i get the hydroxtreme im unsure if I should go for the 5 or the 7. I think the 7 might be too big.

If you go for the HydroXtreme pump you should not go for the 5.
You should go with HydroXtreme 7 Wide Boy or HydroXtreme 9 (these pumps have the same dimensions in diameter)

It depends on how long you want to become, and how many Bathmate pumps you want to get on your PE journey.

So probably the HydroXtreme 9 is best if you think economical. But the * HydroXtreme 7 Wide Boy is more compact.

* Edit: Wrote wrong pump.

 

[huge-girth]

I am surprised i am getting close to filling the tube as fully erect I am approx 5.1 - 5.2. So if i get the hydroxtreme im unsure if I should go for the 5 or the 7. I think the 7 might be too big.

There need to be enough space lengthwise inside the pump. There also need to be enough space for girth expansion too. Your penis has adapted to your current pump that is why you are not getting meaningful expansion. What is your current erect length and erect girth measurements?

 

[Cleareyes]

There need to be enough space lengthwise inside the pump. There also need to be enough space for girth expansion too. Your penis has adapted to your current pump that is why you are not getting meaningful expansion. What is your current erect length and erect girth measurements?

EG is 4.5 and BPEL is 5.2 / 5.3

 

[huge-girth]

EG is 4.5 and BPEL is 5.2 / 5.3

What you need is a mityvac pump. @DLD

 

[Cleareyes]

You think the mityvac is the better option over the hydroxtreme? Does the mityvac give better expansion than the hydromax 5?

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

@Cleareyes, try a session with your hydromax pump. Warm up well and then get your erection to 100%.

Fill the pump with as much water as you can.
Make sure you do not lose water in the process of sticking in your penis. You want as much water in the pump as you can when you start to pump.
When you don't think you can get any more pressure, try to push the pump into your pubic bone in short burst all you got. Lean forward, and push upward into your fat pad -> pubic bone.

You can try rotating your pump, so the tab on the rubber ("the gator") is upwards. This works best for me.


Make sure you do not get air pockets in the pump, then you need to restart. If you don't feel like it hurt or are uncomfortable to push the pump against yourself, you have not reach the maximum pressure of that pump.
I can personally get a pressure with my hydromax 5 that's almost to much.

For me it feels like you do not build up enough pressure with that pump to get the expansion you want.
That pump should be enough to get more expansion over time then you got. I remember I got so much expansion after a while at the base, and that was reducing my expansion at the length, then I was forced to upgrade to a wider pump, to further expand in length faster.

I feel you would be able to get to this point at least with the hydromax 5.
A HydroXtreme version it's easier to get to maximum pressure, since you don't need to push the pump against your body.

You need a bigger pump when you either hit the valve with your glans, or you expand to much at the base so you can't build up enough pressure (your girth hinders the mechanism to build up pressure).

Try this out...

 

[huge-girth]

You think the mityvac is the better option over the hydroxtreme? Does the mityvac give better expansion than the hydromax 5?

You need a bigger pump because you are too close to the valve. You need a bigger pump that has a gauge to avoid over pumping. The mityvac is a 100 times better than the bathmate and it's extreme series. The base of the bathmate pump is never comfortable. The base of the mityvac is very comfortable.

The bathmate is trash when compared to the mityvac.

 

[huge-girth]

@Cleareyes, try a session with your hydromax pump. Warm up well and then get your erection to 100%.

Fill the pump with as much water as you can.
Make sure you do not lose water in the process of sticking in your penis. You want as much water in the pump as you can when you start to pump.
When you don't think you can get any more pressure, try to push the pump into your pubic bone in short burst all you got. Lean forward, and push upward into your fat pad -> pubic bone.

You can try rotating your pump, so the tab on the rubber ("the gator") is upwards. This works best for me.
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Make sure you do not get air pockets in the pump, then you need to restart. If you don't feel like it hurt or are uncomfortable to push the pump against yourself, you have not reach the maximum pressure of that pump.
I can personally get a pressure with my hydromax 5 that's almost to much.

For me it feels like you do not build up enough pressure with that pump to get the expansion you want.
That pump should be enough to get more expansion over time then you got. I remember I got so much expansion after a while at the base, and that was reducing my expansion at the length, then I was forced to upgrade to a wider pump, to further expand in length faster.

I feel you would be able to get to this point at least with the hydromax 5.
A HydroXtreme version it's easier to get to maximum pressure, since you don't need to push the pump against your body.

You need a bigger pump when you either hit the valve with your glans, or you expand to much at the base so you can't build up enough pressure (your girth hinders the mechanism to build up pressure).

Try this out...

He should try this out. He is not pumping with enough pressure and he needs to buy a longer pump too. There should be enough length and girth space for growth in a pump. As you gain in pumping, you will need higher pressure to keep the gains coming and that's why the regular bathmate he is using is not good enough.

 

[Cleareyes]

I was looking at the 1.75” size of Mityvac as it states between 4 - 4.75 and I am 4.5 EG. Would you say this would be the best option.

I’ve also been trying to get a confirmed BPEL measurement but depending on how much i press into the pubic bone i end up with different measurements each time. Any tips on what way is best to get a confirmed figure.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

He should try this out. He is not pumping with enough pressure and he needs to buy a longer pump too. There should be enough length and girth space for growth in a pump. As you gain in pumping, you will need higher pressure to keep the gains coming and that's why the regular bathmate he is using is not good enough.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I was looking at the 1.75” size of Mityvac as it states between 4 - 4.75 and I am 4.5 EG. Would you say this would be the best option.

I’ve also been trying to get a confirmed BPEL measurement but depending on how much i press into the pubic bone i end up with different measurements each time. Any tips on what way is best to get a confirmed figure.

Look here: How to measure correctly.
You want: PBEL and EG.

And look here:
Penis Enlargement Related Abbreviations

 

[DLD]

You think the mityvac is the better option over the hydroxtreme? Does the mityvac give better expansion than the hydromax 5?

Much better and much more accurate and intense

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

You think the mityvac is the better option over the hydroxtreme? Does the mityvac give better expansion than the hydromax 5?

Just a heads up, something will happen when you max out the diameter at the base on a Bathmate pump.
The "gator" will bite you, and you will get bruised at the base of your penis. That's no fun.

I have never used MityVac pump but people that have got that pump say it's much better then the Bathmate pumps. One of the main reasons is this damn hungry "gator" .
GATOR = the rubber creases pushes into your penis, and that's not comfortable at all. You can minimize this in some ways (a bandage at the root), but it will never be comfortable.

I hope I did not scary you away from Bathmate. Maybe consider MityVac?

 

[DLD]

Just a heads up, something will happen when you max out the diameter at the base on a Bathmate pump.
The "gator" will bite you, and you will get bruised at the base of your penis. That's no fun.

I have never used MityVac pump but people that have got that pump say it's much better then the Bathmate pumps. One of the main reasons is this damn hungry "gator" .
GATOR = the rubber creases pushes into your penis, and that's not comfortable at all. You can minimize this in some ways (a bandage at the root), but it will never be comfortable.

I hope I did not scary you away from Bathmate. Maybe consider MityVac?

Mityvac the most professional way to pump

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

How is it going, @Cleareyes have you created a plan, so you will get a monstrously big penis?

What's going on with pumping and SSJ's have you got any higher pressure with the Hydromax 5?

 

[Cleareyes]

How is it going, @Cleareyes have you created a plan, so you will get a monstrously big penis?

What's going on with pumping and SSJ's have you got any higher pressure with the Hydromax 5?

the good news is, I havent taken a day off from 5x5x3 in 9 days and preparing to do tonights session shortly. Still hitting around a 0.2 increase only however I am planning on ordering a Mityvac in the next day or two.

i also plan on starting this lengthmaster length newbie routine, as soon as i get my head around wrapping and such so hopefully start length in a few days!

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

the good news is, I havent taken a day off from 5x5x3 in 9 days and preparing to do tonights session shortly. Still hitting around a 0.2 increase only however I am planning on ordering a Mityvac in the next day or two.

i also plan on starting this lengthmaster length newbie routine, as soon as i get my head around wrapping and such so hopefully start length in a few days!

Good news that you are getting the MITYVAC.
Have you been able to increase the pressure in the Hydomax 5?

I may upload a video about my wrapping technique when they have fixed the upload problem. I think It could help you. Maybe I will upload picures instead to explain how I do it. I will make a post about that soon. I can share the link in this thread with you.

 

[Cleareyes]

Good news that you are getting the MITYVAC.
Have you been able to increase the pressure in the Hydomax 5?

I may upload a video about my wrapping technique when they have fixed the upload problem. I think It could help you. Maybe I will upload picures instead to explain how I do it. I will make a post about that soon. I can share the link in this thread with you.

thank you. Any videos or pictures regarding wrapping would be such a big help.

pressure wise, i still feel that i am hitting full pressure so maybe i just need a fresh start witt mityvac and see how i get on. Will probably be ordering it this weekend!

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

thank you. Any videos or pictures regarding wrapping would be such a big help.

pressure wise, i still feel that i am hitting full pressure so maybe i just need a fresh start witt mityvac and see how i get on. Will probably be ordering it this weekend!

Need to wait until I can upload a video. But will upload it as fast as possible. I have the video ready.

Order the MITYVAC.
I'm going to do that later on as well.
Later as in a couple of months.