Progress thread MeatStick Memos: The Journey

[NotSoSlimJim]

This is the beginning of my progress thread.

Date: 05/13/2020
Starting Stats: BPEL: 7.5”
MSEG: 5.25”

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

I started this thread after I made my purchase of my first official MOS product. Below I describe my decision making process:

I started with three products in mind, they were the mityvac, silistretcher and the length master. I will eventually grab all of these products, but I started with the...(drumroll)...

LengthMaster!!!!!!

I decided that this was the best decision due to all of my gains coming from the SizeGenetics without any type of real stretching routine. With this being the case I figured that the LengthMaster will allow me to get the most out of a real stretching routine, which I believe holds the most potential for quick length gains as I am very new to stretching routines. I am also hoping that this device can help me really get into that inner shaft hidden within the body allowing me to express that and hold it in the sizegenetics for as many hours as possible. My girth seems to take off easier than length and upon the need for further girth work I will snag a mityvac as it seems superior to a bathmate, and of course the temporary girth expansion can make someone feel short term satisfaction while the length work takes patience and discipline to cement, which allows me to maintain long term focus on my PE goals.

So that is my rational, if anyone has any tips or tricks with the LengthMaster it would be a great help. My main goals of the LengthMaster are as follows:

1.) Obtain a 1” erect gain by the end of 2020 (fingers crossed)

2.) Really stretch and get at the tunica and hidden inner shaft length

P.S I will also be journaling my FR journey in this same thread. After reading the benefits as an uncut guy, I am a little shocked but not surprised we’ve been altered for no reason. I would like to experience those added benefits of FR so I will be doing that as well. Happy Hunting!!!

 

[Level_Up]

Welcome! I'm jealous of your owning a lengthmaster. I think that's the first thing I will buy as well when that time comes. Your goals are definitely reasonable if you put in the effort and approach it intelligently. I'm sure you've seen it already but check out the SRT thread!

 

[DLD]

Subscribed!

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Today I came home to a fantastic package, my new LengthMaster.

I am writing this just to get these questions out before I pass out and work of these issues tomorrow with the device and accessories..I will give a more meaningful review when the time comes.

1.) How in the fuck do I put on the SiliSleev. It is such a thick rubber than I am using all my forearm strength just to stretch the folded sleeve over my flaccid length. I can’t get the sleeve all the way to the base and it is too long for my flaccid when I’m not stretched, which is still 5-5.5iches not stretched. I can’t put it on stretched as I am using both hands just to hold the sleeve open. Let’s not get into the fact that my skin is getting caught and gripped to the inside of the sleeve before I can get it all in. So far it’s just seems absurd to think I could get my stretched flaccid in there at all. So unless I figure it out it’s basicslly just holding my unstreched flaccid in a brace while turtuling my glands. Frustrating to say the least. Need help please!

2.) Wrapping with the LengthMaster seems absurd as well. I can not get a great stretch with my flaccid as it doesn’t stretch to far and holds a lot of blood so not a huge stretch and no way can I keep my one hand grasping the glands to keep it extended while I wrap with a 7ft long ace bandage. This was my first attempt so I am remaining calm as I’ve read wrapping is a learning process. Do I not stretch my flaccid when wrapping? The UJW is super long, it’s almost impractical. The Theraband does nothing as it just wrinkles immediately and can’t wrap it with one hand. I tried the jacked up SiliSleeve alone and that just pulled my skin through the sleeve. All my attempted wraps pulled the skin through the wrap as if it was surpassing my glands. The only thing holding my cock in was the tightness of the device which was squashing my girth. I feel a little upset, minimal flaccid strength with difficult holding that stretch with one hand and wrapping with decent girth makes this seem like I’m fucked. I’m not going to give up, just venting. Need to figure this wrap situation out ASAP so I can actually use the device as intended. And is there a specific direction for the chamber to attach to the power assist? Should I cut the Ace bandage. The first wrap I’ll try tomorrow is athletic tape then ace bandage then the black adhesive tape. Please help!! Thx.

 

[DLD]

Wrapping is the most important part of using the LM and everybody goes through a learning curve when they first get there LM. What I suggest first is practicing different wrapping methods found in the wrapping forum. Once you have a good wrap they’ll be no more issues. As far as your sleeve goes it sounds like it’s too small, could that be the issue? If so we could exchange it for a larger one. The biggest thing is to be gentle and calm as you figure this out. You’ll do great just like everybody does it just takes some getting used to.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Thanks DLD. Yes another wrap fail today, glands pinching. Will try again tomorrow. Remaining patient is tough when you consciously know the power that LM has with a good wrap. I know this will unlock my rapid length gains. The Sili is actually too long for my NSFL, I’d say by about a half inch. I am NBPFL 5’. I read the sizing for the Sili before I bought it and my girth is way above the 4’ girth(.75). I’m just too short length wise at the moment to maintain without turtling. Was reading up on the DuroSleev, maybe the 5’ inch would work best atm, idk, haven’t given it much thought since I am currently doing your newbie routine manually at least once a day will try for two sessions most days and spending as much time as possible in SG extender until I can actually get a good wrap, then it’s open season with the two a days using LM for the length routine. Staying Optomistic..I WILL be reporting on this thread in 5-6 months with a 1-1.5’ erect length gain and girth gains, DONE DEAL!

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Note to ALL Members:

I have come to the realization regarding the relationship of routine and equipment in the PE world. I was someone who got length gains of 1.25-1.5’ and cemented 1’ of those gains going from 6NBP to 7NBP..I felt like I was bigger in some other measurements and 1” in MSEG but that is not the point. I made gains just getting in the SG and putting in hours. Like a lot of hours of a couple of years and then didn’t do anything for years. Absolutely no routine. Just get in and chill when doing things like studying and working on computer. So what is my revelation,

My revelation was I was like well how are these motherfuckers pulling off 1’ erect length in 3 months or 6 months or whatever their quality leap forward in gains and I logged so many hours over years and only cemented 1’. Sitting there like fuck I should have gained 3’ and been done. As, I got over my frustration of this feeling (almost like PE jealously) (dick envy(cwl))I noticed my girth was like my erect girth even when flaccid like I was always plump and made the elasticity especially the tunica feel really tight, no give. So I happened to take that frustration and channel into DLDs newbie daily stretch and Jelq routine. I noticed that my elasticity improve and I started to “thin” out while still having quality girth and immediately better EQ. I know this continued path will make those fast (realistically) gains show up for me. Now that all the backstory is all filled what is this epiphany relationship I observed, at least for me.

The SG or any ADS is JUST a tool, the real results come from a structured ROUTINE which only amplified the effect of the tool.

PE Equipment (ADS/Hanger/Pump) = Squat Rack, Bench Press, Dumbbells

Routine = the warm up stretch, proper weight selection, structured execution of reps,sets, and movement.

**As in my story, the equipment can get you gains even just by fucking around with the tools, but with structure they become unfathomably more effective.

 

[DLD]

Note to ALL Members:

I have come to the realization regarding the relationship of routine and equipment in the PE world. I was someone who got length gains of 1.25-1.5’ and cemented 1’ of those gains going from 6NBP to 7NBP..I felt like I was bigger in some other measurements and 1” in MSEG but that is not the point. I made gains just getting in the SG and putting in hours. Like a lot of hours of a couple of years and then didn’t do anything for years. Absolutely no routine. Just get in and chill when doing things like studying and working on computer. So what is my revelation,

My revelation was I was like well how are these motherfuckers pulling off 1’ erect length in 3 months or 6 months or whatever their quality leap forward in gains and I logged so many hours over years and only cemented 1’. Sitting there like fuck I should have gained 3’ and been done. As, I got over my frustration of this feeling (almost like PE jealously) (dick envy(cwl))I noticed my girth was like my erect girth even when flaccid like I was always plump and made the elasticity especially the tunica feel really tight, no give. So I happened to take that frustration and channel into DLDs newbie daily stretch and Jelq routine. I noticed that my elasticity improve and I started to “thin” out while still having quality girth and immediately better EQ. I know this continued path will make those fast (realistically) gains show up for me. Now that all the backstory is all filled what is this epiphany relationship I observed, at least for me.

The SG or any ADS is JUST a tool, the real results come from a structured ROUTINE which only amplified the effect of the tool.

PE Equipment (ADS/Hanger/Pump) = Squat Rack, Bench Press, Dumbbells

Routine = the warm up stretch, proper weight selection, structured execution of reps,sets, and movement.

**As in my story, the equipment can get you gains even just by fucking around with the tools, but with structure they become unfathomably more effective.

This is so true and I wish everybody would read this and understand where you’re coming from. Equipment is extremely valuable when it’s used in the right way. As you said some people just mess around and make gains without even trying to master the equipment.

But when the equipment, manual exercises and the healing and gaining techniques come together we can see a very clear picture of how powerful these combinations are. If you look through SRT you will see that this medium between manual and tool work is best.

Also what people do not take into account is healing. Healing is as important as gaining. Once men understand this and start to put the practices in SRT to use they will see their growth explode.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

6-29-20

Today was another breakthrough day on the PE front. I had major swings in ups and downs today but developed clarity in terms of how I will easily reach my end of 2020 goals.

Note: I have been pretty consistent with the newbie length routine followed by 25-30min of LM work and some SG hrs thrown in.

Today was interesting because I started to hang for the first time. I used the LM chamber and wrapped then attached the clip to a 10lb water jug. (I will get metal weights when I can). I did three sessions of around 10-15 min with that weight which was a little intense but I felt like I could handle it. Now here comes the downside. I didn’t realize after the third set from all the downward pressure that I developed quality fluid retention that just looked at the moment quite awful. Clearly the downward pressure of holding blood in the tip and some shaft made it swell. It reminded me of the fluid retention with the BM but felt hot to the touch and looked swollen. I was concerned as it was like a third of my shaft. (I use the LM at a low point).

I stopped the hanging and did a little SG work as I waited to see the swelling go down. Thankfully it did in a relatively quick timeframe. I was fortunate as the moment it went down I saw gift of a durosleeve had arrived. I was literally just contemplating how I would alter my wrap to deal with the fluid retention. I was concerned about my wrap. I decided to take a bit of a chance and try ONLY the durosleeve with the hanger.

Results: I wanted to use only the durosleeve so I had a quick way to get in and out of the chamber for heavy hanging and not use up all my wrap material. I could use it just on LM stretches. Well my theory was correct. I was able to hold significant weight with only the durosleeve on. It was comfortable enough where I could place the chamber very close to my shafts base and the duro grip would keep it in a decent spot. I believe due to jumping to 10lbs immediately I began to turtle slightly due to longer sessions and the weight, I can change either of those variables in the future to prevent minor turtling. The big thing though was due to such a great grip all of the pressure was taken off of the glands and felt directly in the tunica, ligs, and internal. The hang was just fantastic, no pain where you wouldn’t wait it (glands) but enough pressure/discomfort in the right areas where you know shit is gunna get real as you put in hours of this training. I did 3 sessions of around 15-20 min before the turtling took place, but as I exited the chamber at the end I just felt such fantastic elasticity at the root of my shaft, plus I had done LM work earlier in the day. The durosleeve has made me feel set for a long and fruitful hanging journey. Never have I seen such a nice hang with quality girth maintained afterward. As a totally newbie to hanging I think this can destroy any tension I got simply from the SG extender. I am pumped for more sessions.

Lengthmaster + Wraping = Stretch Heaven

Lengthmaster + Durosleeve = Hang Heaven

Hang Heaven + Stretch Heaven = 8+ EL

 

[Bostonian]

6-29-20

Today was another breakthrough day on the PE front. I had major swings in ups and downs today but developed clarity in terms of how I will easily reach my end of 2020 goals.

Note: I have been pretty consistent with the newbie length routine followed by 25-30min of LM work and some SG hrs thrown in.

Today was interesting because I started to hang for the first time. I used the LM chamber and wrapped then attached the clip to a 10lb water jug. (I will get metal weights when I can). I did three sessions of around 10-15 min with that weight which was a little intense but I felt like I could handle it. Now here comes the downside. I didn’t realize after the third set from all the downward pressure that I developed quality fluid retention that just looked at the moment quite awful. Clearly the downward pressure of holding blood in the tip and some shaft made it swell. It reminded me of the fluid retention with the BM but felt hot to the touch and looked swollen. I was concerned as it was like a third of my shaft. (I use the LM at a low point).

I stopped the hanging and did a little SG work as I waited to see the swelling go down. Thankfully it did in a relatively quick timeframe. I was fortunate as the moment it went down I saw gift of a durosleeve had arrived. I was literally just contemplating how I would alter my wrap to deal with the fluid retention. I was concerned about my wrap. I decided to take a bit of a chance and try ONLY the durosleeve with the hanger.

Results: I wanted to use only the durosleeve so I had a quick way to get in and out of the chamber for heavy hanging and not use up all my wrap material. I could use it just on LM stretches. Well my theory was correct. I was able to hold significant weight with only the durosleeve on. It was comfortable enough where I could place the chamber very close to my shafts base and the duro grip would keep it in a decent spot. I believe due to jumping to 10lbs immediately I began to turtle slightly due to longer sessions and the weight, I can change either of those variables in the future to prevent minor turtling. The big thing though was due to such a great grip all of the pressure was taken off of the glands and felt directly in the tunica, ligs, and internal. The hang was just fantastic, no pain where you wouldn’t wait it (glands) but enough pressure/discomfort in the right areas where you know shit is gunna get real as you put in hours of this training. I did 3 sessions of around 15-20 min before the turtling took place, but as I exited the chamber at the end I just felt such fantastic elasticity at the root of my shaft, plus I had done LM work earlier in the day. The durosleeve has made me feel set for a long and fruitful hanging journey. Never have I seen such a nice hang with quality girth maintained afterward. As a totally newbie to hanging I think this can destroy any tension I got simply from the SG extender. I am pumped for more sessions.

Lengthmaster + Wraping = Stretch Heaven

Lengthmaster + Durosleeve = Hang Heaven

Hang Heaven + Stretch Heaven = 8+ EL

Are you already at 8+ BPEL? That's a promising amount of gains in such a short amount of time if that's the case. 9 inches should be a piece of cake for you.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Bostonian,

I don’t believe so. I have not measured since I got back into PE in May. I probably won’t measure until end of 2020. I don’t like to worry about it, just focus on consistency and the measurements will be there. I know by my SG I am stretching BP to the 8” mark, but I don’t think I am there yet legitimately. All I know is my daily manual, LM stretches, and now LM hanging are actually changing the structure of my shaft. Like without measuring I can tell I am becoming immensely more elastic and feel heavier literally all the time. With consistency my original goal of 8X6 will happen and maybe I can get to 9X6.5 by end of 2021. Fingers crossed. Im a smaller guy w/ zero fat pad so hopefully that helps. My skinny jeans are just a blatant hey here is my cock moment. Having to contemplate how to keep my tight fitting clothes w/ this beef snake. Happy Hunting

 

[DLD]

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[NotSoSlimJim]

Quick Update:

Routine Frequency: Daily

Routine:
- Newbie stretch routine at least once a day
-Immediatly follow with LM stretching
--> primarily bundles in all directions for two to three sets
--> I attach the chamber about midway down shaft closer to base, I dominate the internal daily.
- SG ADS when I am in between hanging sets
- Hanging Sets
--> Use LM chamber and Durosleeve to hang between 5-10lbs for 3 sets of 15 minutes minimum daily

How is it going:
I have not missed days at all. If I take a day off once a week it is due to pure soreness and the old addage that we need at least a tiny fraction of time to heal. I have not measured since I began PE in May from my 2 yr DeCon break. I don't plan on measuring until sometime between Dec 31, 2020. I can tell already though that daily LM and hanging and using my SG is changing my dick. I can see noticeable difference in BPFSL without even needing to measure and my erections are steel beams so when I have one, just visually it looks like growth has occured. The measurements will just verify what I already know. Consistency and the visual I am seeing shows me shit is happening.

How to make it better:
Continue with consistent work. I have also as of today added a new tool to the arsenal. DRUM ROLL........

THE MITYVAC!!!!!

Decision:
I decided that I could take the wisdom of the legend himself DLD and remind myself daily that it is a balloon not a rope. I will use the Mity as a late night post all other workout for girth expansion, bloodflow, pre-jelq expansion, and of course hardcore stretches. I believe increased girth and expansion capabilities will allow me especially at the base to support more length. I have ordered a 2" tube currently at a 5.75 BEG in order to hit both length and girth with the Mity. I am also excited for the rings to keep my nice and plump to activate bulge mode. I am also excited for 5X5X3. Will update soon.

 

[DLD]

Wow what a great post! It really amazes me how you guys just put these routines together that come out so awesome. There was a time when I had to write routines for everybody but as of the last few years people have been pretty good at putting routines together. I say stick with what you’re doing and keep that positive attitude and everything’s gonna go your way.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

MityVac has arrived. Need some tips or things to keep in mind as I get started. I did not receieve any lube with the Vac and am unsure how to cut the massive sleeve you get with it for the cap sleeve combo. Due to this I tried to enter the tube without any sleeve on or the thing for the base and just pressed it to my bone pressed and pushed on the gun. I got a little pressure but I got to 5hg quickly and was able to pull it off my bpfl very easy as if the pressure was weak. I have almost no hair down there, but not a clean shave. I think there is a learning curve and I am just messing up so need help.

 

[DLD]

MityVac has arrived. Need some tips or things to keep in mind as I get started. I did not receieve any lube with the Vac and am unsure how to cut the massive sleeve you get with it for the cap sleeve combo. Due to this I tried to enter the tube without any sleeve on or the thing for the base and just pressed it to my bone pressed and pushed on the gun. I got a little pressure but I got to 5hg quickly and was able to pull it off my bpfl very easy as if the pressure was weak. I have almost no hair down there, but not a clean shave. I think there is a learning curve and I am just messing up so need help.

let me tag @Lightning for you or you can go to sales@mattersofsize.com for direct contact

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

I do not know what to contact them about except for no lube. I am uncertain if the Mity is faulty or I am just going to have to go through a learning curve. I have only tried it once, which I posted about above. Is there something I am doing wrong with regards to the pump itself? I am new to pumping and I would rather master the Mity then go to a Bathmate and have my nuggets sucked into the tube and have the retention of a spongy vienna sausage.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Ok so after typing this I decided to jump into the MityVac and do my 2nd test run. I noticed the following. (Please excuse my newbie dumb mistakes)
1.) I have to wait slightly to see expansion when dry pumping
2.) I did not use the sleeves or the pump sleeve just put in on pressed to the base and pumped
2a.)I noticed that my pumped length looks significantly shorter in the tube. Like inches shorter, is this due to girth expansion over length because I am stretching around the 8in mark in my SG, but pumped I only reached around 7 on the Mity ruler, what should I make of this?
2b.) I reached past the 7 on the Mity ruler when I went to almost 12.5hg I know this was dumb I only did it for a minute or so and immediatly disengaged. I just got overzelous becuase I wanted to see length expansion as well and I felt short in the tube.
3a.) I noticed a slight pain like a wtf havent pumped in a while, not too extreme, just like an ok what was that in my base. I DID NOT try and hardcore stretches. It feels like if I pull on it then it will come off, also I am seeing a VERY VERY tiny drop in pressure as time goes on in the pump is this just a natural drop in pressure of the device or should it stay totally CONSTANT through the session. It was nothing a single pump on the gun wouldnt fix immediatly?

Thanks for bearing through my newbie errors and again any advice and feedback helps. Should I totally shave? Whats the deal with my pumped length?

 

[DLD]

Every time I see you post I want to eat a fucking SlimJim LOL

I am confused about your questions, the Mityvac comes with a gun.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

The 45AirChamberedPump. Yes the pump that comes with the MityVac.
Questions:
1.)Why do I look significantly shorter in the tube. Is it due to expanding girth over length?? Losing about 1" Getting to 7" on the ruler on the tube.
2.)The Pressure Gauge begins to slightly drop not by a lot its very very small when I am still attached to the tube. Is this normal? It isnt a big deal as a single squeeze to the pump gets it even higher than previous. Is this normal?
3.)Should I shave completely?

 

[DLD]

You may look shorter because the tube is causing an optical illusion. I would never rely on the way it looks I would always rely on the ruler.

yes it is normal to lose pressure and when that happens simply add more vacuum. It is that way with every type of pump.

You don’t have to shave but I would trim down to less than a quarter inch so the hair does not interrupt the vacuum. You can also use a smear of Vaseline around the seal to be sure you lose no vacuum vacuuYou don’t have to shave but I would trim down to less than a quarter inch so the hair does not interrupt the vacuum. You can also use a smear of Vaseline around the seal to be sure you lose no vacuum

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Update: New Routine Experiment and Question

I am going to try a new routine as follows:

AM- newbie stretch routine
- LengthMaster bundles and stretches
- SG extender for multiple hrs (25min sets at max extension and tension)
- in between SG breaks I will jump back into LM with the silisleeve on not my full blown wrap as with my first set and simply get some up out and down stretches in. (Basically inscrease amount of LM stretching daily)
PM - MityVac + jelqs

I would like to keep this routine as a daily driver.

Question: Has anyone used the VLC Tugger attachment with the SG and developed pretty intense bruising around the tip of the head. I have been using a VLC that doesn’t fit my head as best it should it’s a little small, and when I stretch out in the SG and then remove the device it leads to swelling as if the tip has been smushed into the VLC. I believe it is causing this bruising and a think layer of skin like microfilm non painful has been sheeding from that spot. I don’t know what to do as I like the SG but my VLC is too small and I don’t have the noose anymore. Idk what to do as I want to continue ADS work but this bruising is dark but not painful. I’m contemplating switching to the silistretcher to go with this ADS plus I can hang and wear to sleep after my PM MityVac session. Any ideas of what to do would help.

 

[DLD]

Update: New Routine Experiment and Question

I am going to try a new routine as follows:

AM- newbie stretch routine
- LengthMaster bundles and stretches
- SG extender for multiple hrs (25min sets at max extension and tension)
- in between SG breaks I will jump back into LM with the silisleeve on not my full blown wrap as with my first set and simply get some up out and down stretches in. (Basically inscrease amount of LM stretching daily)
PM - MityVac + jelqs

I would like to keep this routine as a daily driver.

Question: Has anyone used the VLC Tugger attachment with the SG and developed pretty intense bruising around the tip of the head. I have been using a VLC that doesn’t fit my head as best it should it’s a little small, and when I stretch out in the SG and then remove the device it leads to swelling as if the tip has been smushed into the VLC. I believe it is causing this bruising and a think layer of skin like microfilm non painful has been sheeding from that spot. I don’t know what to do as I like the SG but my VLC is too small and I don’t have the noose anymore. Idk what to do as I want to continue ADS work but this bruising is dark but not painful. I’m contemplating switching to the silistretcher to go with this ADS plus I can hang and wear to sleep after my PM MityVac session. Any ideas of what to do would help.

I would talk to Ron over at VLC and ask his advice on what size you should go with. He’s a very kind gentleman and he will walk you through the process and get you into the proper size so this is not an issue

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Decided to not re size my VLC as the SG was getting a little annoying as its not the device to really live any type of active lifestyle. Due to this decision I revamped my arsenal and picked up a SS 2.0. I chose the 1.5 bell as I believe it will fit fine and didnt want to overshoot with the 2". I rush delivered the SS 2.0 so I do not miss much time from my routine.

My tools are as follows:
LengthMaster
MityVac
Silistretcher 2.0

I am looking to use my LengthMaster in the morning after a manual stretch and then use the Silistretcher in place of my SG. I would be hopefully using my durosleeve to hang for a bit and then passive stretch at work and when I sleep. I would also get at least one MityVac session in per day probably at night. I would prefer to use the Silistretcher at night even after girth work, is this possible?

 

[DLD]

Decided to not re size my VLC as the SG was getting a little annoying as its not the device to really live any type of active lifestyle. Due to this decision I revamped my arsenal and picked up a SS 2.0. I chose the 1.5 bell as I believe it will fit fine and didnt want to overshoot with the 2". I rush delivered the SS 2.0 so I do not miss much time from my routine.

My tools are as follows:
LengthMaster
MityVac
Silistretcher 2.0

I am looking to use my LengthMaster in the morning after a manual stretch and then use the Silistretcher in place of my SG. I would be hopefully using my durosleeve to hang for a bit and then passive stretch at work and when I sleep. I would also get at least one MityVac session in per day probably at night. I would prefer to use the Silistretcher at night even after girth work, is this possible?

This all looks really good to me and I like the change up from the SG to the SS, that’s gonna be so much better for you. I would like to see you write this routine out in this progress thread. Be sure it is very organized exactly what you’re going to do so I can critique it better. Let me know every possible detail in that post and I’ll be able to go through it and help you with various things. Please tag me when you start that thread so I can follow you daily

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

@DLD

My SS 2.0 has arrived. I took the last hr to see how I can work it. First, I am missing the 2.5lb weights and the grip powder. I also recieved two things that I am not sure what in the world they are. One looks like a white cloth pouch. When I slap it it poofs a little powder. Is that the Powderbag, like they use in baseball? If so, how do I know it works, just slap it on my hands until there is plenty of powder and then use it for the shaft? The other thing is this clear soft rubbery thing that looks like the head of a dick with a hole in it. I have no idea what that thing is for and neither of those items are described in the directions that come with the device. Maybe its the durocap? If so, putting that thing on will make my glands too big for the bell I believe. Idk, will test later if that is the durocap.

I put the durosleeve on the bell to get used to applying the thicker sleeve because I know I am going to be hanging with the device starting prob tomorrow. I am not the tallest person so when I attach the velcro strap around mid thigh I have literally zero tug whatsoever, guess thats the benefits of being shorter than average with a longer that average(cwl). I have had to shift the velcro further down my leg around mid calf to get a good stretch. I have also tried the shoulder strap around my neck like a lanyard and that seems to work the best. Lets hope its not too visible.

I am going to be getting back into my normal routine tomorrow and will begin to post as frequently as possible hopefully daily implementing the newbie rountine, lengthmaster, silistrecher, and mityvac. Any comments on things to really focus on with the silistretcher t

 

[DLD]

The powder bag is the MOSgrip. I believe the weights are on back order but I would highly recommend you send an email to sales to be sure. Email this post to sales@mattersofsize.com and they will get you straightened out. Have no fear is my brother we stand 100% behind what we sell.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Got back into somewhat of my routine today so far in the AM

Newbie Stretch Routine (3 sets 30 Seconds) (Manual)
-Out
-Right
-Left
-BTC straight
-BTC right
-BTC left
-Down
-Down right
-Down left
-Up
-Up Right
-Up Left

Lengthmaster
-bundled stretches (able to bundle twice cant get three turns) (chamber is around mid shaft)
- 30 seconds up, out, down, left, right, btc (2 sets)

Silistretcher (no silicap) (durosleeve)
- Have taken today to try and figure out how to best implement this thing.
-Hanging some weight with and without Vacuum
--> Vacuum must have to be higher to hold more weight? I am getting more stretch in the sleeve and my glands are moving away from the silipad, do I need more vacuum or am I just going to heavy to start?
--> Hanging without vacuum still leaves a little crease on the glands almost like retention but not as intense. Idk what to make of it?
-Used the Stretcher as an ADS
--> I dont seem to have to use too much vacuum which is nice, but I dont feel much of a stretch and after training for so long with a high intensity and short reps and actually feeling some pain I second guess if I am getting any benefit out of such a light exercise. Still trying to find the best position. Are my glands always supposed to touch the silipad as its difficult to tell how the glands are resting after managing to get into the device with the thick ass durosleeves. Does covering more shaft with sleeve help with heavier weight?

Any set up to help use this thing for heavy 7-10lb hanging with or without vacuum and what sleeves would be helpful?

Will do Girth Tonight with MityVac and try and sleep in the silistretcher

 

[DLD]

How do you try to do your basic stretching using your LM? This may help you gain even faster.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Today I took a rest day due to soreness felt in the inner shaft almost around the PC muscle area. I believe this is due to extending the hours logged in the Silistretcher over the past 2 days. Not sure what to make of this soreness?

The last two days I have been going through my normal manual stretch routine and then doing some of the same stretches within the Length Master. I then use the Length Master chamber for hanging. I have been increasing my hanging sessions due to shelving the Size Genetics. I have been using the last two days to figure out how to utilize the hours after my manual stretching and LM stretching. I think I will continue to use that time to hang with the LM and when in between sets just put on the SS with the leg strap to stay elongated. I have had some aggravation with the sleeves and getting them on. The durosleeves are a bitch to get on the SS after rolling it even once. The silisleeves seem to be easier especially when I am not using any heavy weight and solely staying extended. The big thing I got out of yesterday was wearing the silisleeve on the job for some passive extended healing. I have noticed increased soreness, but I have noticed that I am feeling more elastic in a flaccid state than even before and the vein running down the top of the shaft seems slightly thicker. This is very early to really give an in depth review of the SS, but passive healing in an extended state post hanging and LM work could be the key I needed to really pack on some quick FSL and EL. Fingers crossed.

 

[DLD]

Today I took a rest day due to soreness felt in the inner shaft almost around the PC muscle area. I believe this is due to extending the hours logged in the Silistretcher over the past 2 days. Not sure what to make of this soreness?

The last two days I have been going through my normal manual stretch routine and then doing some of the same stretches within the Length Master. I then use the Length Master chamber for hanging. I have been increasing my hanging sessions due to shelving the Size Genetics. I have been using the last two days to figure out how to utilize the hours after my manual stretching and LM stretching. I think I will continue to use that time to hang with the LM and when in between sets just put on the SS with the leg strap to stay elongated. I have had some aggravation with the sleeves and getting them on. The durosleeves are a bitch to get on the SS after rolling it even once. The silisleeves seem to be easier especially when I am not using any heavy weight and solely staying extended. The big thing I got out of yesterday was wearing the silisleeve on the job for some passive extended healing. I have noticed increased soreness, but I have noticed that I am feeling more elastic in a flaccid state than even before and the vein running down the top of the shaft seems slightly thicker. This is very early to really give an in depth review of the SS, but passive healing in an extended state post hanging and LM work could be the key I needed to really pack on some quick FSL and EL. Fingers crossed.

This all sounds really good my brother! That soreness you’re feeling is a really good sign of growth. Whenever the intensity is really kicking in you’ll feel it at the base of the penis. I’m very happy that you’re utilizing your LM in every way, very smart. I look forward to working with you and watching you grow

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Update:
-Continuing Daily Newbie Length Routine (Manual)
-LM Stretch Session (20min) (All directions)
**Silistretcher passive stretch down the leg
**Hanging with LM Chamber 10lbs multiple sessions per day usually 2-5 (times vary from 10-20 min)

**I switch between Sili and LM Hanging between sets back and forth between the others

I took a day break from MityVac after pumping around the 12.5hg after intense length days due to what I thought was a weird vein situation. I took the day off out of caution, but I have since re-evaluated and believe it may be the formation of a new vein. There is no pain, it feels thicker, looks almost like an elevated stretch mark, but it feels like I vein when I pinch it. It is closer to the base and moving towards the glands on the side of the shaft. I would like to think its a strengthening vein as base girth grows and supports a longer thinker shaft, but I have no idea.

 

[DLD]

Update:
-Continuing Daily Newbie Length Routine (Manual)
-LM Stretch Session (20min) (All directions)
**Silistretcher passive stretch down the leg
**Hanging with LM Chamber 10lbs multiple sessions per day usually 2-5 (times vary from 10-20 min)

**I switch between Sili and LM Hanging between sets back and forth between the others

I took a day break from MityVac after pumping around the 12.5hg after intense length days due to what I thought was a weird vein situation. I took the day off out of caution, but I have since re-evaluated and believe it may be the formation of a new vein. There is no pain, it feels thicker, looks almost like an elevated stretch mark, but it feels like I vein when I pinch it. It is closer to the base and moving towards the glands on the side of the shaft. I would like to think its a strengthening vein as base girth grows and supports a longer thinker shaft, but I have no idea.

As long as the vein is not wiry and hard it’s nothing to worry about, it is simply veins bulging because of new expansion.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

How do I reduce the pain on glands when using the silk stretcher for hanging? Feels like the concentration is on the glands vs the shaft even with durosleeve or silisleeve. Is it just too much weight? What would be the best way to mitigate this pulling painful feeling on the glands? Also, how do I contact @sales for missing 2.5lb weights?

 

[DLD]

How do I reduce the pain on glands when using the silk stretcher for hanging? Feels like the concentration is on the glands vs the shaft even with durosleeve or silisleeve. Is it just too much weight? What would be the best way to mitigate this pulling painful feeling on the glands? Also, how do I contact @sales for missing 2.5lb weights?

how much weight are you hanging? What wrap are you using? To find out about your weights send a email to sales@mattersofsize.com

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

I am hanging on and off between 2lbs and 10lbs. When I do the 2lbs I use the silistretcher and a silisleeve. When I hang 10lbs I usually use the LM chamber and strap in about 3/4 to the base using only a 4” durosleeve. The weight tends to slack the chamber all the way to my glands even though I tighten the chamber very tight. When I tried 10lbs with the Silistretcher I again use the same durosleeve and I feel the stretch slightly differently but it puts a lot of tension on my glands even when I really turn the piston a full 2-3 times to lock in the glands. I don’t get any of the pain when using lighter weight so I believe it could be a weight issue. I am currently using around 2lbs of coinage in a bag as a make shift weight and it feels fine. I am experimenting because I like the tug a little better on the silistretcher when hanging compared to the LM believe it or not. I believe the fact that I a strapped at the glands vs the shaft may be the reason, idk. I am really trying to get the max out of my length time and maybe foolishly thought more weight would mean less time, any insight? I can already see I am developing more veins and slightly thicker base just from healing in an elongated state with the Silistretcher, which is very motivating. Shaft is starting to look even more agrressive and angry ?. These small signs have made me really want the most out of my length work as I def gain girth quickly and would really like to break through the 8” bpel mark. I am a little timid of the ruler right now, but I can tell anyone reading this log that I am very consistent with my daily routine of newbie manual stretch, LM stretch, and further length work of hanging in LM and Silistretcher. I get MityVac work in every couple of days, mostly hitting length as I really feel like I can break through my previous plateau. My hands are 3.5” across the palms and bpfsl I can get both of them with an 1” left over. Just driving myself to get the bpel to explode.

 

[DLD]

One quick thought that came to mind is are you squeezing all the blood out of your head before you clamp down? It may seem like a basic thing but this is usually the cause

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Sometimes yes and sometimes no. I initially tried to the glands act as a stopping point for the LM chamber as the weight, especially the heavy 10lbs, pulls the chamber down. I basically was trying to make sure I didn’t turtle into the chamber but my glands will hurt a bit against the black inner piece of the LM chamber. I think I just get overly frustrated when I am totally limp and have like no blood flow especially when the shaft is fatigued and I am trying to run set after set with 10lbs and my shaft begins to turtle a bit where the durosleeve and some foreskin overtake the glands. The pain in my glands is really felt when I do 10lbs in the Silistretcher, but I can’t force the blood out because it’s expanded in the bell. The pain with either method is not super super crazy like can’t even use it, just nagging enough to make you want to stop hanging after say 2-3 minutes. In order to get the most out of my hanging I know I have to remain extended, it could just be the weight. I never hung before in my life and tried 2lbs to 5lbs to 10lbs very quickly. I may just not be ready for that yet w/ the Silistretcher. Does weight matter more? Or does time under tension matter more for getting the best results with the Silistretcher?

 

[DLD]

Sometimes yes and sometimes no. I initially tried to the glands act as a stopping point for the LM chamber as the weight, especially the heavy 10lbs, pulls the chamber down. I basically was trying to make sure I didn’t turtle into the chamber but my glands will hurt a bit against the black inner piece of the LM chamber. I think I just get overly frustrated when I am totally limp and have like no blood flow especially when the shaft is fatigued and I am trying to run set after set with 10lbs and my shaft begins to turtle a bit where the durosleeve and some foreskin overtake the glands. The pain in my glands is really felt when I do 10lbs in the Silistretcher, but I can’t force the blood out because it’s expanded in the bell. The pain with either method is not super super crazy like can’t even use it, just nagging enough to make you want to stop hanging after say 2-3 minutes. In order to get the most out of my hanging I know I have to remain extended, it could just be the weight. I never hung before in my life and tried 2lbs to 5lbs to 10lbs very quickly. I may just not be ready for that yet w/ the Silistretcher. Does weight matter more? Or does time under tension matter more for getting the best results with the Silistretcher?

I have always instructed men to use the LM hanger for heavier stretching. I have also always advised men to use their SS for passive mode. Weight matters more when it’s hanging than when extending

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Got my usual routine as noted above in today. Really logging a lot of time in the Silistretcher in a passive mode. I hope this pays off as I had zero previous method of passive healing after workouts. Two things today:

1.) I tried the original Mandingo stretch to see if I can add it to my routine. I did the stretch but even with 5” flaccid I felt like I have just barely enough length to pull it off. What a pull though, will continue even if it gives me some pain.

2.) Got some MityVac work in after all my length stuff and passive work all day and idk maybe the shaft is just fatigued or something but I can’t enter the tube erect as I am not getting erections. I am going in soft and letting the expansion do it’s thing, but the ruler makes it look like I am shorter flaccid and when I am expanded as well. It got me frustrated that by my last set I pushed to almost 15hg for about a minute and started to bleed through a pore in my shaft, like you would if you nicked yourself shaving. I disengaged immediatly and in frustration just popped on a ring and wrote this log.

I don’t know what to make of this girth session? Maybe I am just fatigued, but I am using the ruler as a proxy for length expansion even through I am gettting great girth expansion I feel short in the tube and makes me think all my previous length work is all for shit. I have to believe that is not that case and narrow it down to a super fatigued unit as can be seen through having zero erection to speak of. I haven’t even used the MityVac entering at 100% yet. Must maintain faith.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Have not posted in a while. I have been pretty consistent with a 2 week break from early February until now. I use the lengthmaster to do stretches in all directions and get at least two hanging sessions for 5-15 min a day with the lengthmaster at 10lbs. I have NOT seen the real explosive length I was looking for over the past 6 months, so I am looking for advice on modifying my routine for what I believe to be a "hard length gainer". I know my girth will explode which is why I am not using my MityVac as much. Should I possibly use MityVac daily and SSJ or continue on a length dominant routine?

I use the LM for stretches
LM hanging 2X5-15min @ 10lbs
then use SS for passive healing through the day.

I need help with a routine that will shock me to grow length as that is def my harder area to grow. I am hovering in the 7.25-7.65 BPEL range and am dying to get over 8. NEED HELP PLEASE. Putting in a lot of work and not seeing radical gains is disheartening and don't want to get complacent. Any advice or help would be appreciated to help me bust through this plateau.

 

[DLD]

Have not posted in a while. I have been pretty consistent with a 2 week break from early February until now. I use the lengthmaster to do stretches in all directions and get at least two hanging sessions for 5-15 min a day with the lengthmaster at 10lbs. I have NOT seen the real explosive length I was looking for over the past 6 months, so I am looking for advice on modifying my routine for what I believe to be a "hard length gainer". I know my girth will explode which is why I am not using my MityVac as much. Should I possibly use MityVac daily and SSJ or continue on a length dominant routine?

I use the LM for stretches
LM hanging 2X5-15min @ 10lbs
then use SS for passive healing through the day.

I need help with a routine that will shock me to grow length as that is def my harder area to grow. I am hovering in the 7.25-7.65 BPEL range and am dying to get over 8. NEED HELP PLEASE. Putting in a lot of work and not seeing radical gains is disheartening and don't want to get complacent. Any advice or help would be appreciated to help me bust through this plateau.

I can help you with your routine. Send me an email with this request and I will get right back to you within 24 hours. Send your email to guru.dld@gmail.com

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

I have been somewhat consistent lately, but am also busy right now with new business opportunities. Will continue to work and send a request for a more advanced plateau breaking routine from @DLD. I will mention last nights episode as encouragement for PE and overall penile health. I was out with a friend having drinks after our shift. I was wearing tight black jeans that had developed a minor rip in the seam where my balls would be. At some point I don’t know when I stretched my legs to bring her closer to me and the tip expanded big time. So now we are sitting very close where no one can see out legs around the table and the rip is showing my boxers and it’s totally ruined my jeans. Instead of freaking out I’m laughing with her about it as we start kissing and I run my hands on her legs. The idea of being in a public place must have been enticing to both of us as well as when we both look down to laugh at this ridiculous hole in my jeans, I am rocking a massive hard on. She then laughs and mentions how I won’t be able to hide that big dick anymore as she starts caressing the shaft. I would say rn I’m sitting in the 7.5BPEL and 5.75MSG range. The thing to also keep in mind is I had a couple drinks and no bullshit meds or anything and I was giving her a nice thick but most importantly hard cock to play with in a public venue in a very subtle secretive way that just made her feel so freeing and open sexually. The combination of size compliment and dick health can be attributed to PE. It should give members motivation to continue this journey. She was very impressed by the cock. It gives me motivation to continue on through momentary lapses due to life stuff. I will have people keep in mind I am really on length the most rn and have not even used the Mity as a daily driver which I will be doing soon. That will only help further girth length and strength. She loved the sight of the cock, but was over the moon with the strength (health). Continue forward at all costs.

 

[DLD]

Well if you take me up on putting a routine together just send me an email to guru.dld@gmail.com.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

3/5/21: Routine Update and Motivation for Members.

DLD just sent be a banger of a hardcore routine that will be executed once I return from my business trip on the 12th. I do have a question for @DLD should I split the length and girth into two diff days as it’s a hell of a routine?

I have currently been doing the newbie routine with each set being finished with a couple minutes of hanging 10lbs using the LM then I would use the SS to passive heal through my work day. I did this routine yesterday but I increased the hanging weight to 20lbs which was fucking rough so I felt fatigued where I couldn’t stay in the SS so I just let it be the rest of the day. This lead me into the motivation for the members.

Due to fatigue and my feeling that I was going to be hooking up with a girl I was hanging out with I decided to take a SuperActive Cialis. I think it was no more that like 5mg or whatever. I hadn’t used them in a while and knew they were weak doses and had them for a while thought they wouldn’t even work or have delayed reaction. NOTE: I solely used it due to potential fuck session after super fatigue from a workout plus still in the moderate reboot stage of NoPMO (1 relapse in 30days, 7 days perfect).

Either way we ended up hooking up and going back to my place to crash after a couple drinks. One thing lead to another and we are fucking. So first off, I fluctuated between 80-100% EQ for literally hours, and had no chance of ejaculating, which was welcomed for me in this scenario as I wanted to enjoy her and analyze how my PE has helped my size and strength.

So I believe PE has def helped my EQ strength even with that minor pill. The strength was noticeable to me. And of course, I am currently 7.3-7.5BPEL and 5.75EG and she was overjoyed with it. She was literally screaming like a banshee using the words “perfect” “amazing” and “unreal” to describe my dick. Shes a 5’7 curvy female with hips and ass. She had some trouble taking the stick especially the girth towards the entrance. I still felt like I could give her more length as I didn’t feel like I hit bottom, and since she was curvy I had to get her legs up just to get balls deep which she managed to take with such joy. Idk how some of these monsters do it with 9BPEL and 6+EG. Guess I’ll find out someday lol. Of course it could have just been her body, but it was tough to get in but once in I felt like I could have given more length. Either way she was thrilled with dick. PE and developing a great size accompanied by stamina is just mandatory in every guys life. This chick literally pulsated on my dick for hours like her soul was leaving her body, she literally was like I can’t come anymore I drained, and her body was clearly crazy stimulated. PE IS AS IMPORTANT AS FINANCIAL EDUCATION, DIET, PHYSICAL EXERCISE, AND COMMUNICATION SKILLSETS. Push Forward Members!!!

 

[DLD]

3/5/21: Routine Update and Motivation for Members.

DLD just sent be a banger of a hardcore routine that will be executed once I return from my business trip on the 12th. I do have a question for @DLD should I split the length and girth into two diff days as it’s a hell of a routine?

I have currently been doing the newbie routine with each set being finished with a couple minutes of hanging 10lbs using the LM then I would use the SS to passive heal through my work day. I did this routine yesterday but I increased the hanging weight to 20lbs which was fucking rough so I felt fatigued where I couldn’t stay in the SS so I just let it be the rest of the day. This lead me into the motivation for the members.

Due to fatigue and my feeling that I was going to be hooking up with a girl I was hanging out with I decided to take a SuperActive Cialis. I think it was no more that like 5mg or whatever. I hadn’t used them in a while and knew they were weak doses and had them for a while thought they wouldn’t even work or have delayed reaction. NOTE: I solely used it due to potential fuck session after super fatigue from a workout plus still in the moderate reboot stage of NoPMO (1 relapse in 30days, 7 days perfect).

Either way we ended up hooking up and going back to my place to crash after a couple drinks. One thing lead to another and we are fucking. So first off, I fluctuated between 80-100% EQ for literally hours, and had no chance of ejaculating, which was welcomed for me in this scenario as I wanted to enjoy her and analyze how my PE has helped my size and strength.

So I believe PE has def helped my EQ strength even with that minor pill. The strength was noticeable to me. And of course, I am currently 7.3-7.5BPEL and 5.75EG and she was overjoyed with it. She was literally screaming like a banshee using the words “perfect” “amazing” and “unreal” to describe my dick. Shes a 5’7 curvy female with hips and ass. She had some trouble taking the stick especially the girth towards the entrance. I still felt like I could give her more length as I didn’t feel like I hit bottom, and since she was curvy I had to get her legs up just to get balls deep which she managed to take with such joy. Idk how some of these monsters do it with 9BPEL and 6+EG. Guess I’ll find out someday LOL. Of course it could have just been her body, but it was tough to get in but once in I felt like I could have given more length. Either way she was thrilled with dick. PE and developing a great size accompanied by stamina is just mandatory in every guys life. This chick literally pulsated on my dick for hours like her soul was leaving her body, she literally was like I can’t come anymore I drained, and her body was clearly crazy stimulated. PE IS AS IMPORTANT AS FINANCIAL EDUCATION, DIET, PHYSICAL EXERCISE, AND COMMUNICATION SKILLSETS. Push Forward Members!!!

Subscribed and I’m looking forward to your journey. I’m with you all the way on this my brother and you will make it happen