Low Intensity Shockwave Therapy (LiST) for erectile disfunction - is it a scam or legit?

[Avengere]

If you google Low Intensity Shockwave Therapy (LiST) you will see that there are many clinics offering this.

Apparently it is amazing for erection quality, but procedures at clinics are very costly.

There is also a product no market where you can buy a device and perform it at home. It costs about 600$.

I won't link to product, because I don't want anyone to get idea of me trying to sell anything.

I'm interested in science of this.

This is something new, so are there any studies proving this technique actually works for ED?

So far I found these studies, but can we trust it?
Low-intensity shock wave therapy for erectile dysfunction and the influence of disease duration. - PubMed - NCBI
Low-Intensity Shockwave Therapy (LiST) for Erectile Dysfunction: Is It Safe for Patients on Anticoagulant Medication? - PubMed - NCBI
Low-intensity shockwave therapy (LiST) for erectile dysfunction: a randomized clinical trial assessing the impact of energy flux density (EFD) and frequency of sessions
Shock wave therapy: ED cure or unproven treatment?

Any information, experience would be much appreciated.

 

[longstretch]

Supposedly works great. Some at Th*nd3rs have built a cheap version and you can find some in Ebay under $500 and the Red Rocket which is the price of a treatment or 2 from what I've heard

 

[DLD]

this was offered to me by my therapist. I was not sure how it would work and now I see your post?? It was offered it to be used for depression and anxiety but it’s cool that it can also be used for PE.

 

[TuffDong]

Supposedly works great. Some at Th*nd3rs have built a cheap version and you can find some in Ebay under $500 and the Red Rocket which is the price of a treatment or 2 from what I've heard

 

[Avengere]

LMAO that gif. But with no trolling. Is that red rocket thing worthwhile?

https://www.getmyrocket.com

They seem kind of fishy with preorder and all, but the studies say it works.

Are there any other alternatives? Anyone tried Chinese versions? Do they work?

If this could at least a little bit improve my ED I'd buy it.

 

[Mike03016]

Endover,
What all have you tried to improve your EQ?
Even if this works, I would think there are better options for a shit load less cost.

 

[TuffDong]

I agree

 

[DLD]

LMAO that gif. But with no trolling. Is that red rocket thing worthwhile?

https://www.getmyrocket.com

They seem kind of fishy with preorder and all, but the studies say it works.

Are there any other alternatives? Anyone tried Chinese versions? Do they work?

If this could at least a little bit improve my ED I'd buy it.

smells fishy to me also

 

[TuffDong]

But, it IS secret tech......

 

[Rt267x]

smells fishy to me also

I Agree.

But, it IS secret tech......

It’s rocket science ?

 

[TuffDong]

 

[TuffDong]

I'll wait for The Boring Company to release The Musk Husk. The deluxe edition features a Sentry Mode for when those Pedo Guys try to jack your shit.

 

[DLD]

We have the greatest PE minds in all of the world of PE. No one can ever compare to our growing catalog of tools and accessories, all made by us here in the USA.

 

[Avengere]

I'll wait for The Boring Company to release The Musk Husk. The deluxe edition features a Sentry Mode for when those Pedo Guys try to jack your shit.

LMAO!!!

We have the greatest PE minds in all of the world of PE. No one can ever compare to our growing catalog of tools and accessories, all made by us here in the USA.

That is why I'm asking you here about the shockwave therapy. This seems something rather new. There are always new things to explore.

 

[REDZULU2003]

It's probably got legs, but, in all honesty I couldn't justify the cost for what it's worth, when cheaper, free alternatives exist.

These devices may be more helpful for men with erectile dysfunction, actually medical conditions related to the erection.

 

[Avengere]

It's probably got legs, but, in all honesty I couldn't justify the cost for what it's worth, when cheaper, free alternatives exist.

These devices may be more helpful for men with erectile dysfunction, actually medical conditions related to the erection.

Which are those free cheaper alternatives?

 

[REDZULU2003]

A pump at low pressure worked for me.

 

[DLD]

It's probably got legs, but, in all honesty I couldn't justify the cost for what it's worth, when cheaper, free alternatives exist.

These devices may be more helpful for men with erectile dysfunction, actually medical conditions related to the erection.

that was Lightning‘s thoughts too.

 

[Avengere]

I do have ED, that is why I'm wondering if this could help me.

 

[F26]

I've heard from some sources that it can actually help and cured ED for some people, but is shitty expensive and you pay for each treatment.
Maybe you just need 3-4 treatments, maybe 5-10 or even more. And then it's still not guaranteed that you are cured forever.

But before investing lots of money into that, try the others ways before
ED can have lots of effects, do a checklist for yourself and try to check what you could improve yourself, for example living a healthier lifestyle, doing some physical activity, stop alcohol and nicotine. Are you feeling stressed or have depression? Can also be a big cause.
There's so many reasons why ED happens and occurrs.

Since when do you have ED?
Happened something specific in life before it occurred?

Check this:
1) https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/erectile-dysfunction/symptoms-causes/syc-20355776
2) https://www.healthline.com/health/erectile-dysfunction#causes

This are just some examples, if you're a perfect healthy person who have a wonderful life and ED occured out of the sudden, then I would definitely look into ways for curing it via expensive medical treatment, but before looking into this, check yourself.
Unless it won't be a problem for you investing lots of money in it and the risk that it will maybe coming back after a few months or years (as you just fightened the disease and not the symptom, why it occurred).

Maybe the Nocturnal penile tumescence (NPT) test (link 2) may also help evaluating and telling more about your ED.

Also, before paying doctors for treatment, do what @longstretch said and check Th*nd3rs for building it your own so you have it basically forever and are not just paying for the time and use of it.

Also check this and look for what I've written about the Ischiocavernosus (IC) muscle as it may also be able to help with ED or even cure it:
https://mattersofsize.com/threads/kegels-reverse-kegels-pelvic-floor-anatomy-of-the-penis-muscles-and-some-clarification.1819931/


Summary:
We don't know you, your health and your lifestyle, so you can either note everything down for yourself, making the list what you could improve healthwise or you can share it here
If nothing above helped with improving your health & lifestyle, try to built one at your own for less money, if the still not helps, do it with a doctor.
If you are rich and don't mind spending lots of money, maybe go for treatments at a doctor directly as it could be the fastest way., but I'd still recommend you the resources I've linked here and check Th*nd3rs for building the own device and their experience.

 

[DLD]

I do have ED, that is why I'm wondering if this could help me.

How bad is your condition? There are definitely things we can do to improve this but let me know exactly the condition you are in.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Try a pump at 5hg or less for ten minutes.

 

[Avengere]

How bad is your condition? There are definitely things we can do to improve this but let me know exactly the condition you are in.

It is so bad that only thing that helps me is caverject / alprostadil injections. In fact, cialis doesn't do much even. If I put on condom I'm limp within a minute. It's bad.

 

[DLD]

It is so bad that only thing that helps me is caverject / alprostadil injections. In fact, cialis doesn't do much even. If I put on condom I'm limp within a minute. It's bad.

Have you tried Viagra?

 

[Avengere]

Yes, cialis, helped very little. Not comparable to PGE-1 injections.

Have you tried Viagra?

 

[DLD]

Yes, cialis, helped very little. Not comparable to PGE-1 injections.

How much do the injections cost?

 

[Avengere]

How much do the injections cost?

26 eur per injection...a shit load

 

[DLD]

Wow!

 

[Avengere]

I am not sure of these things on shockwave therapy device:
1) How often to use it
2) Should I use blue plastic heads or not?
3) Which head to use?
4) What should be frequency settings?
5) What should be Intensity settings?
6) How many ticks for penis?
7) In which regions of penis should it be applied?
I really have no idea and I can’t seem to find a specific guide also. Any tips?

 

[DLD]

I am not sure of these things on shockwave therapy device:
1) How often to use it
2) Should I use blue plastic heads or not?
3) Which head to use?
4) What should be frequency settings?
5) What should be Intensity settings?
6) How many ticks for penis?
7) In which regions of penis should it be applied?
I really have no idea and I can’t seem to find a specific guide also. Any tips?

these are all questions that need to be answered. Once we can get our heads around this and get some true feedback we may be able to create this at a fraction of the cost.

 

[huge-girth]

Interesting.

 

[DLD]

these are all questions that need to be answered. Once we can get our heads around this and get some true feedback we may be able to create this at a fraction of the cost.

So true