Illegal Aliens

[derringer57]

It cost California 8,000/year per child for public schooling. Then think medical, dental health. Now think of someone who is an illegal alien with a grip of kids and doesnt make 100,000/year to pay the taxes to support all that. Now think that there are millions just like this person...

This might be fanatical, but I know it would be mad effective. Shut down the border line up our troops. Tell Mr. Fox that we are sick of his people coming over and getting citizenship by having a baby here (which also cost) and leaching off our economy, then sending the money home taking billions out of our economy. We will then deputize him to use his troops/money/resources to close the border. If he doesnt we march into Mexico City the next day and take over the oil they have (which is quite hefty) and take it freely for him to pay us the billions and billions he is indebted to us. Once we receive our compensation and enough to build a 30 foot wall on the border, we will pull out and leave Mr Fox a little message to line the border with his troops to keep his people in his own country.

I personally have no problem with hispanic or mexican people. I think any which come here legally are fine by me. My current girlfriend is half Colombian and my g/f before her was Nicaraguan. I also have many hispanic friends, its just illegal aliens ger under my skin.

What do you all think of my insane plan?

 

[lee6]

I think the US government are really screwing all of us on this issue. Your right, they come here illegaly and get tax free checks, while I and you too give up 36% or more on our checks. Isnt fair. Most get free health care too. My wife is an EMT and sees this all the time. One trick of theirs is to wait until the babys head is starting to come out, then call the ambulance. The EMTs must under law help with delivery on the spot. Then after delivery, they simply refuse to be put in the truck to go to the hospital. No transport, no bill. If they come here to get legal citizenship and do that with all steps involved then I have no problem with it. Otherwise they are nothing but leaches that cost us money. Insurance takes a hit, doctors charge more, companies pay less and the government raises taxes as an excuse, but in the same breath in Georgia and California, they allow illegals to get drivers licence without fear of being deported!!! WTF!!!

 

[longTom]

in Georgia and California, they allow illegals to get drivers licence without fear of being deported!!! WTF!!!

Kansas Wants to let them have bank accounts as well as drivers licences

 

[sikdogg]

Shoot them all at the border...

 

[VladtheImpaler]

Well I can guarantee you if all of us werent born so goddamned priviledged, we would be racing over that border real quick. All they want is the same opportunities us spoiled fuckers didnt have to do shit for. They still have to find a shitty minimum wage job for themselves.
Just a point. Someone would have to pay me to live in the States, it is the last place I ever want to be. Except for the occasional daytrip skiing, those kick ass
But they dont come over because they want to, but because they have no other choice.

But because I'm a good guy and I know you all care strongly on this subject and are all crazier than an uninformed texan......I give you:

The Minuteman Project

http://www.minuteman-project.com/

http://www.usbc.org/minuteman1.html

So put your gun where your mouth is, and help the empire wipe out the alien scourge.....

 

[iwant8inches]

lol yeah the minutemen project. glory be it's humanity at its finest. I think some people here need to be checked out to see if they should be allowed to live here before we start becoming vigilantes and shit. If you're that crazy and think the government isn't doing enough about immigration and border security and the other issues involved with this then I'd say what the minutemen project is is one of the worst ways of going about solving the problems.

 

[Duppi_KronKite]

What if your government actually wanted the flood of illegals?

What if your government wanted them in the country so that it would bring down the wages? I mean big corporations love seeing the same work done for lower prices.

What if soon the borders to the South become non-existant?

What if instead of the Hero State/Empire wanted to turn itself into a 3rd world nation instead of bringing the 3rd world nations up to 1st class status?

Either way Im sure it wont be long until these illegals bring new disease to the country. Also won't be long until you find yourself fighting to get 5/hr.

Im not sure but is Illegal Alien pussy any good?

 

[sikdogg]

Fuck illegals... we're all immigrants but we did it the legal way not this bullshit were they cross our borders illegally and expect the taxpayers to foot the bills for their medical, school, and everything else.

 

[derringer57]

1) The border is moving north
2) They have brought diseases. TB was nonexistant in California and pretty much all US states. We had it under control, but due to the influx of illegals there have been some cases opping up in California.

Sooner or later once they are all here, it will be no better than where they came from... Our government needs to take action ASAP. Hopefully we can get some conservative judges in supreme court who arent tied to conservative corporations and get a conservative president who is the same. Cant rely on Democrats to do anything that is necessary a.k.a. unpopular.

 

[Rod Buster]

Maybe the original Americans would dispute the legality of european "immigration"

 

[Duppi_KronKite]

1) The border is moving north
2) They have brought diseases. TB was nonexistant in California and pretty much all US states. We had it under control, but due to the influx of illegals there have been some cases opping up in California.

Sooner or later once they are all here, it will be no better than where they came from... Our government needs to take action ASAP. Hopefully we can get some conservative judges in supreme court who arent tied to conservative corporations and get a conservative president who is the same. Cant rely on Democrats to do anything that is necessary a.k.a. unpopular.

Yes I know that they have already brought disease, and I know the border is not moving north but being taken down. The border with Canada and the US will be gone shortly after.

Like I said earlier, the US will be turned into a 3rd world nation instead of the proposed lie of how the US would help 3rd world countries develope into 1st class nations.

 

[sikdogg]

Maybe the original Americans would dispute the legality of european "immigration"

Well... until they replace our existing government, their disputes are irrelevent. And for the record, prior to the colonization of North America there were no Americans so the term "Original Americans" is incorrect. They were indigents, natives, or indians but they were not Americans.

 

[VladtheImpaler]

What if your government actually wanted the flood of illegals?

What if your government wanted them in the country so that it would bring down the wages? I mean big corporations love seeing the same work done for lower prices.

Yep, thats why One in 32 Americans is in jail or on parole, and 1 in 5 african americans are either in jail, prison or on parole.......Isn't it sickening!!!

Thats around 7 500 000 or 3.2 percent of the population, and expectations show 150 000 will be incarcerated this year. It is ever rising.

Prisons and prison wages are a Massive business.

What if instead of the Hero State/Empire wanted to turn itself into a 3rd world nation instead of bringing the 3rd world nations up to 1st class status?

That makes a lot of sense man....great post :s

 

[derringer57]

Prisons and prison wages are a Massive business.

As I said, this is the only business/workers I am willing to outsource. Imagine being in prison in Turkey or China, possibly Libya. I am sure they would take our prisoners for a fraction of what it cost us to house them. We never need to worry about parole, or them escaping, or learning their lesson. No cable TV, no corndogs for lunch, just your cell.

 

[Duppi_KronKite]

As I said, this is the only business/workers I am willing to outsource. Imagine being in prison in Turkey or China, possibly Libya. I am sure they would take our prisoners for a fraction of what it cost us to house them. We never need to worry about parole, or them escaping, or learning their lesson. No cable TV, no corndogs for lunch, just your cell.

Ya but then stop to use common sense for a second here. Look how many people are jailed in the US for no reason. Why is it that the number of people in jail in the US keep skyrocketing yet the drug importation and crime rate soars as well?

Why does the US have the largest jailed population and the most number of prisons?

I know you don't care because your magic T.V. tells you only the "Criminals" go to jail. But if the day comes that they come knocking on your door saying you have broke a new law or are working with Terrorists, maybe your wish will come true and you can be outsourced to a forced labour camp in the 3rd world.

 

[derringer57]

Can you cite any numbers or sources Dup? If not then its best not to speak and be thought an idiot, as the proverb goes.

If I dont work with terrorists I am sure they wont come knocking on my door. Haha I am sure you have proof of ALL these people going to jail for no reason.

Our court system is so lenient its pathetic. And you are going to tell me the adverse that all these innocent people are going to jail for no reason? If you knew this you must have proof of each, and in that case I am sure you can shed some reasonable doubt to set them free. Go save the world you obviously got a lot more answers than me lol.

I say we have the largest jailed population and number of prisons because we are too lenient. You steal in an arabian country they will cut your hand off, how many thiefs do you think they have their. I mean shit you only get caught twice then your damn near hopeless when it comes to stealing again. 2 strike law haha.

 

[Kal-el]

I don't know why everyone is crying about this. America has Always been a nation of immigration. Immigration Is the reason all of you are here. "Oh, but my ancestors came here legally!" Well, maybe if it were as hard back then as it is now, they wouldn't have.

 

[Duppi_KronKite]

Can you cite any numbers or sources Dup? If not then its best not to speak and be thought an idiot, as the proverb goes.

If I dont work with terrorists I am sure they wont come knocking on my door. Haha I am sure you have proof of ALL these people going to jail for no reason.

Our court system is so lenient its pathetic. And you are going to tell me the adverse that all these innocent people are going to jail for no reason? If you knew this you must have proof of each, and in that case I am sure you can shed some reasonable doubt to set them free. Go save the world you obviously got a lot more answers than me lol.

I say we have the largest jailed population and number of prisons because we are too lenient. You steal in an arabian country they will cut your hand off, how many thiefs do you think they have their. I mean shit you only get caught twice then your damn near hopeless when it comes to stealing again. 2 strike law haha.

Pass da dutchie pon de lef han syde?

 

[sikdogg]

I don't know why everyone is crying about this. America has Always been a nation of immigration. Immigration Is the reason all of you are here. "Oh, but my ancestors came here legally!" Well, maybe if it were as hard back then as it is now, they wouldn't have.

Millions of immigrants from every other country manages to do it legally every year... why can't Mexicans??

 

[Duppi_KronKite]

Millions of immigrants from every other country manages to do it legally every year... why can't Mexicans??

Cuz they are so close and its more fun to live on the edge. Why knock on the door and ask to be let in when the window is wide open?

Hell I bet Canada gets a lot of Illegal immigrants coming from the US...

 

[ivan]

A world without borders .... won't that be bliss! Opps! no; that wouldn't work, the comfy world of the self righteous North Americans would be all busted up!

Ivan

 

[lee6]

Some of you are full of shit. I dont or never have had it easy! I work my ass off 40-60 hours a week for EVERYTHING I have. I would starve if I didnt work. Dont try to make me feel guilty for thinking illegals shouldnt be welcomed. They do nothing but cost the working man money and jobs. Get it the fuck right next time!! Perhaps if they would all work together in their own country then mabey they might be able to make a living. If not then move the fuck to the US, BUT DO IT LEGALLY!!!!

 

[lee6]

And also......

Dont break into my house and steal from me the things Ive worked for and expect sympathy because your a theif! Get your lazy ass a job the legal way and shut the hell up!

Simple case in point: How do you think Im using the internet right now? I bought a computer that I saved up for by working my left ass cheek off! I then pay a monthly fee to have my very own account, which costs me my right ass cheek! I dont even steal my internet connection! "What! You dont use someone elses account number and steal your connection?!" Fuck NO! I work for my shit, and pay my fucking taxes that are supposed to go toward inforcing laws to keeping fucking theives out of my country, and not taking advantage of the dumbass law-makers in Washington. But instead Im supposed to have sympathy because I "have it so easy".. Fucking joke!!
Dont be a dishonest theiving bastard and actually try to pass the imigration test!!! At least then I can actually get along just fine with my new out of town friends. I will then even help you find a good job..

 

[VladtheImpaler]

And also......

Dont break into my house and steal from me the things Ive worked for and expect sympathy because your a theif! Get your lazy ass a job the legal way and shut the hell up!

Simple case in point: How do you think Im using the internet right now? I bought a computer that I saved up for by working my left ass cheek off! I then pay a monthly fee to have my very own account, which costs me my right ass cheek! I dont even steal my internet connection! "What! You dont use someone elses account number and steal your connection?!" Fuck NO! I work for my shit, and pay my fucking taxes that are supposed to go toward inforcing laws to keeping fucking theives out of my country, and not taking advantage of the dumbass law-makers in Washington. But instead Im supposed to have sympathy because I "have it so easy".. Fucking joke!!
Dont be a dishonest theiving bastard and actually try to pass the imigration test!!! At least then I can actually get along just fine with my new out of town friends. I will then even help you find a good job..

Explain 2 out of twenty of these sentences and you shall be awarded a gold star.

That goes for you to derringer.....I gotta get outta here people are so mind-numbingly brainwashed it leaves a bad taste in my mouth

 

[derringer57]

Please if you have nothing to say other than self-righteous bullshit thats contains no factual or relevant information... please STFU immediately...

 

[lee6]

Ohh I see I was wrong. Sorry. Everyone please run lawlessly into my country and take everything you wish for your own. Im a dumbass for trying to protect my rights as a working human being. Let this be a lesson to the rest of you Americans! Work hard and obey the law...and then let theives come in and destroy your system because the rest of the world is jelous and thinks you should lay down.

 

[iwant8inches]

Some of you are full of shit. I dont or never have had it easy! I work my ass off 40-60 hours a week for EVERYTHING I have. I would starve if I didnt work. Dont try to make me feel guilty for thinking illegals shouldnt be welcomed. They do nothing but cost the working man money and jobs. Get it the fuck right next time!! Perhaps if they would all work together in their own country then mabey they might be able to make a living. If not then move the fuck to the US, BUT DO IT LEGALLY!!!!

Meanwhile, businesses give these people work and pay them low, take taxes and benefits out of their check, but yet these people typically don't have any kind of insurance, and let's see NAFTA and CAFTA are supposed to be of help? These people need fucking money and if their lives are shit and are barely able to literally put food on the table for their families in Mexico for example then I'd say if I were an illegal immigrant I'd tell all you fuckers to kiss my ass. Maybe when we can actually realize it is a bit of our duty to allow those who do not have as much as we do a chance at least at survival then we can start to make any sense of the problem. If the problem had been clearly identified then a solution would have surfaced. Those without a citizenship or in other words without a voice in this country are supposed to be the ones who have it better than you because how exactly? I didn't know you could complain about a matter and place anger at the feet of people who should be considered on the same side of the fence as you more or less considering what kind of actual good opportunities are available to these illegals.

 

[derringer57]

Lee6, my comment was directed at Vlad not you. Just because it is ethically wrong in someones mind that we dont help illegals or let them in, doesnt change the reality of the fiscal situation its not possible for us to support them all andi s a HUGE cut into OUR quality of life. I dont mind if people are immigrants, as long as they come here legally. Even if I wanted to pay for all the illegals, me and my fellow Americans cant fit the bill for them all and will not. Sooner or later they are going to have to crack down or we will be engulfed and be just as bad a shithole as Mexico... I like my plan. Stick it to Mr Fox, get our money back, lower taxes... does it get any better?

 

[iwant8inches]

I would say the alternative minimum tax is screwing this country out of money more than illegal immigrants.

 

[sikdogg]

...Hell I bet Canada gets a lot of Illegal immigrants coming from the US...

Yes, but we don't live off their government...

 

[sikdogg]

A world without borders .... won't that be bliss! Opps! no; that wouldn't work, the comfy world of the self righteous North Americans would be all busted up!

Ivan

You fucking hypocrite... UK has stict immigration laws that they enforce and you're gonna turn your nose down on the US for wanting to do the same?!?!?

This issue doesn't even concern you so fuck off!!

 

[derringer57]

Cant wait til Canada goes under because of their socialistic politics. A good heart doesnt change the economic realities of life.

I dont know what the exact saying is but... being liberal as a child means you have a kind heart, being liberal when you group up means you have a thick skull...

 

[Kal-el]

A world without borders .... won't that be bliss! Opps! no; that wouldn't work, the comfy world of the self righteous North Americans would be all busted up!

Ivan

Yes, the whole planet is caught in the net in a terrible piece of propaganda: the borders. people made borders. Here we are in the United States. You are an American, no different from anyone else. Borders are simply artificial seperations, and yet they are the reason why there are many conflicts. We should wake up, we are all human beings on 1 common planet.