Extremely Frustrated - Post Newbie Gains

I am new to the site but not to PE. Been doing PE two years and have seen 1-1/2” length increase and 3/4” girth increase (although I have never targeted girth as length is my only focus).

So, I started out and had a very slow start, three months and zero gains but then things finally got going and I saw decent newbie gains over the next six/eight months.
Since then tho, it has been a struggle. Almost a year of various routines and only 3/8” to show for it.

About two months ago I decided I would break down and commit to hanging.

Using a vac hanger, I established 10 lbs as a comfortable starting weight (after multiple months of assisted stretching, 10 pounds didn’t feel that heavy). The first month averaged about seven hours a week and only had two off days the first month.
The second month I added a split set and average about 9-1/2 hrs a week. All of my hanging has been extreme BTC, body horizontal, legs up, weight down.

My frustration came last night after hanging I popped in the vac cylinder for a quick pump before jumping on the Mrs and I was shocked to see my extension in the tube was SHORTER then it was before I started hanging.
That wasn’t really the time to get excited so this morning I wake up, jump in the shower, manual stretch for 10 min after drying off, and then check my BPFSL and sure as shit, it is 1/8” shorter.

I am really ticked about this right now. I know I have read about guys saying hanging didn’t work for them but I always chalked that up to them not being consistent or hanging too light of weights. Neither is true for me yet I am going the wrong way...

Thought? Questions? Advice?

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I look forward to your all’s replies.

Michael
 
goflyers;n1815523 said:
I am new to the site but not to PE. Been doing PE two years and have seen 1-1/2” length increase and 3/4” girth increase (although I have never targeted girth as length is my only focus).

So, I started out and had a very slow start, three months and zero gains but then things finally got going and I saw decent newbie gains over the next six/eight months.
Since then tho, it has been a struggle. Almost a year of various routines and only 3/8” to show for it.

About two months ago I decided I would break down and commit to hanging.

Using a vac hanger, I established 10 lbs as a comfortable starting weight (after multiple months of assisted stretching, 10 pounds didn’t feel that heavy). The first month averaged about seven hours a week and only had two off days the first month.
The second month I added a split set and average about 9-1/2 hrs a week. All of my hanging has been extreme BTC, body horizontal, legs up, weight down.

My frustration came last night after hanging I popped in the vac cylinder for a quick pump before jumping on the Mrs and I was shocked to see my extension in the tube was SHORTER then it was before I started hanging.
That wasn’t really the time to get excited so this morning I wake up, jump in the shower, manual stretch for 10 min after drying off, and then check my BPFSL and sure as shit, it is 1/8” shorter.

I am really ticked about this right now. I know I have read about guys saying hanging didn’t work for them but I always chalked that up to them not being consistent or hanging too light of weights. Neither is true for me yet I am going the wrong way...

Thought? Questions? Advice?

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I look forward to your all’s replies.

Michael

Hey Michael, (my name too :)) For some guys, like myself, hanging did not work. I stuck with manual exercises but I used the LengthMaster. Hanging just was no intense enough even when I was hanging in the 50-70 pound mark. I am not sure why this is but it is an issue with some in hanging. My advice is to you is to do what I did. Start with the LengthMaster and using some of the advanced techniques in SRT. Everyone who uses SRT gains, everyone. Have a look through and ak for any help you may need.

DLD
 
Thank you very much for the reply DLD, that was quite helpful.

I have done assisted stretching but with a homemade tool, I found it comfortable and able to give a great stretch when clamped near the base but I always had issues as the clamping point moved closer to the glans.
i need to play around with my wrap and if I can get it half decent to be able to assert some decent force, I will order the real thing from you.

One last question, I know SRT has a great track record but I am way past any newbie gains left in me... is that still the best next step?

Again, thank you for taking the time to reply and help me out, I really appreciate it.
 
goflyers;n1815592 said:
Thank you very much for the reply DLD, that was quite helpful.

I have done assisted stretching but with a homemade tool, I found it comfortable and able to give a great stretch when clamped near the base but I always had issues as the clamping point moved closer to the glans.
i need to play around with my wrap and if I can get it half decent to be able to assert some decent force, I will order the real thing from you.

One last question, I know SRT has a great track record but I am way past any newbie gains left in me... is that still the best next step?

Again, thank you for taking the time to reply and help me out, I really appreciate it.



There is a wrapping forum that teaches many different methods: But for many wrapping is even more personalized so look through these and try to find what works best for you, wrapping is a fine art! SRT is the only program anyone would ever need to make the fastest possible gains. Even to the New, SRT is a good starting point.
 
goflyers;n1815592 said:
Thank you very much for the reply DLD, that was quite helpful.

I have done assisted stretching but with a homemade tool, I found it comfortable and able to give a great stretch when clamped near the base but I always had issues as the clamping point moved closer to the glans.
i need to play around with my wrap and if I can get it half decent to be able to assert some decent force, I will order the real thing from you.

One last question, I know SRT has a great track record but I am way past any newbie gains left in me... is that still the best next step?

Again, thank you for taking the time to reply and help me out, I really appreciate it.

Did this help you me Brother?
 
I cannot express enough how much I appreciate you taking the time to reply, thank you again.

Yes, very helpful and I am still trying to digest the whole SRT thread and see how much I can work into my active schedule. I have 90 minutes a day for PE and can do a bit more but the whole day for three months (SRT) is a challenge with family stuff (and in locker rooms with kidlets etc).

At a minimum, I will order the LM next week and add parts of SRT to get a new routine.
If that doesn’t work I will figure out how to adjust my schedule for the full SRT routine.
 
goflyers;n1815831 said:
I cannot express enough how much I appreciate you taking the time to reply, thank you again.

Yes, very helpful and I am still trying to digest the whole SRT thread and see how much I can work into my active schedule. I have 90 minutes a day for PE and can do a bit more but the whole day for three months (SRT) is a challenge with family stuff (and in locker rooms with kidlets etc).

At a minimum, I will order the LM next week and add parts of SRT to get a new routine.
If that doesn’t work I will figure out how to adjust my schedule for the full SRT routine.

Getting the length will be of great benefit to you. Since you don't have enough time, you can get the length master and focus on length for now since you don't have enough time.
 
Question about SRT,
There is mention about applying a pea size dab of cortizone cream after stretching.
When I Google about applying Cortizone cream... I can’t find anything good about applying it to healthy skin.

Is this safe to apply to your shaft?
is this something most of ya’ll do/did?
 
goflyers;n1815922 said:
Question about SRT,
There is mention about applying a pea size dab of cortizone cream after stretching.
When I Google about applying Cortizone cream... I can’t find anything good about applying it to healthy skin.

Is this safe to apply to your shaft?
is this something most of ya’ll do/did?

Hydrocortisone is what you want :)
 
Getbiglonger7;n1815915 said:
Most guys here feel frustrated imho, thats why we here,wish i was 9 in lenght by 6.5" but im not..

I used to be frustrated in the past but not anymore. I have just one more inch to gain which will put me at 9 inches if that happens.
 
huge-girth;n1815960 said:
I used to be frustrated in the past but not anymore. I have just one more inch to gain which will put me at 9 inches if that happens.

Frustration is the devils workshop!
 
If i understood correctly, you been doing PE for 2 years with ONLY 1.5 inches gain ?
Thats pretty good actually. I originally estimated that much gain over something like 2-4 years for myself lol.
Tell me about frustration, over 6 months and only around 0.25" gain. I dont know how ill gain the remaining 1.75". IMO my penis looks almost the same since i started. I guess devices are now the way to go, coupled with more intensity. God help me.
 
mrplayer1984;n1816140 said:
If i understood correctly, you been doing PE for 2 years with ONLY 1.5 inches gain ?
Thats pretty good actually. I originally estimated that much gain over something like 2-4 years for myself lol.
Tell me about frustration, over 6 months and only around 0.25" gain. I dont know how ill gain the remaining 1.75". IMO my penis looks almost the same since i started. I guess devices are now the way to go, coupled with more intensity. God help me.


That is a great gain and I think you are right gains are happening faster with the combination of tools and exercise. SRT has really played a big role in this.
 
MrPlayer, you are in the right place with a group of very knowledgeable people, this works just keep the faith. This group will help make sure you get there.

As you have read many times, everyone is different, expecially when it comes to PE!

My personal frustration comes because my growth cycles come in spurts. I will have basically no gains for months on end then have 4,5,6 months that are awesome.
My routines are pretty much the same, intensity is pretty much the same,... just frustrating.

It would be so nice if it would just work that you do ‘X’ amount of work and you get .1” gain... but instead you do ‘X’ amount of work and get ????

lol
 
If i could get gains like you did, I would be super happy.
Easy to say though when im not in your position and havent gone through the 2 years of frustration. But at the end of the day the frustration was worth the 1.5" right ?
 
MrP,
I never had an issue with my starting size (5.25x5”)... but even with that being the case, Oh Hell Yeah, it has been worth it! Lol

Get rid of the “if”, you will have the gains and maybe dwarf my numbers. All good, that is why we are all here.

Many on this site (DLD and others) have amazing knowledge and experience and can help.
Be consistent with your routine and when gains become obvious, stick with what is working. I know that sounds so basic but you would be surprised how many people get away from what is working.

Good luck MrP and I look forward to reading your progress reports.

Michael
 
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goflyers;n1816168 said:
MrP,
I never had an issue with my starting size (5.25x5”)... but even with that being the case, Oh Hell Yeah, it has been worth it! Lol

Get rid of the “if”, you will have the gains and maybe dwarf my numbers. All good, that is why we are all here.

Many on this site (DLD and others) have amazing knowledge and experience and can help.
Be consistent with your routine and when gains become obvious, stick with what is working. I know that sounds so basic but you would be surprised how many people get away from what is working.

Good luck MrP and I look forward to reading your progress reports.

Michael

Thanks for the support. Appreciate it.
 
mrplayer1984;n1816140 said:
If i understood correctly, you been doing PE for 2 years with ONLY 1.5 inches gain ?
Thats pretty good actually. I originally estimated that much gain over something like 2-4 years for myself lol.
Tell me about frustration, over 6 months and only around 0.25" gain. I dont know how ill gain the remaining 1.75". IMO my penis looks almost the same since i started. I guess devices are now the way to go, coupled with more intensity. God help me.

Keep going bro, do not give up. Keep posting and who knows, you might be the next winner of the monthly prize. You can get a free length master from DLD. Do everything within your power to get a length master.
 
huge-girth;n1816192 said:
Keep going bro, do not give up. Keep posting and who knows, you might be the next winner of the monthly prize. You can get a free length master from DLD. Do everything within your power to get a length master.
Haha i wish i could win it but if i rely on luck, id keep waiting. Ill see if i can save enough to get one soon, maybe take a small loan hehe.
 
mrplayer1984;n1816197 said:
Haha i wish i could win it but if i rely on luck, id keep waiting. Ill see if i can save enough to get one soon, maybe take a small loan hehe.

You can take a small loan. The length master is cheap. But remember commitment and consistency is vital on this journey.
 
mrplayer1984;n1816202 said:
Yes brother agreed.

So much so, it is the solution to so many PE problems. Like I have said many times the first thing anyone should get for length is the LengthMaster.
 
doublelongdaddy;n1816233 said:
So much so, it is the solution to so many PE problems. Like I have said many times the first thing anyone should get for length is the LengthMaster.

Yes that is on my shopping list already, along with an extender and an ADS.
The LM will have a dual purpose as a stretcher and hanger (hopefully). The extender and an ADS for traction stretching and heal in an elongated state. The only thing remaining is a BM, which i already have.
So i guess ill have all the required gadgets in PE in my arsenal
 
mrplayer1984;n1816241 said:
Yes that is on my shopping list already, along with an extender and an ADS.
The LM will have a dual purpose as a stretcher and hanger (hopefully). The extender and an ADS for traction stretching and heal in an elongated state. The only thing remaining is a BM, which i already have.
So i guess ill have all the required gadgets in PE in my arsenal

For extender, get a Phallosan and buy very strong sleeves to replace the condom sleeves that comes with it. You might be lucky with hanging and also you might not be lucky. So I will give you the easiest route to your destination.

Use your length master for stretching only for at least 30 mins daily and wear the Phallosan for 8 hours daily. This is a very comfortable routine that is highly addictive.
 
huge-girth;n1816316 said:
For extender, get a Phallosan and buy very strong sleeves to replace the condom sleeves that comes with it. You might be lucky with hanging and also you might not be lucky. So I will give you the easiest route to your destination.

Use your length master for stretching only for at least 30 mins daily and wear the Phallosan for 8 hours daily. This is a very comfortable routine that is highly addictive.

Ok will keep that in mind, thanks.
 
mrplayer1984;n1816241 said:
Yes that is on my shopping list already, along with an extender and an ADS.
The LM will have a dual purpose as a stretcher and hanger (hopefully). The extender and an ADS for traction stretching and heal in an elongated state. The only thing remaining is a BM, which i already have.
So i guess ill have all the required gadgets in PE in my arsenal

The LengthMaster has many functions, not only does it do chamber exercise but it is a hanger, a PowerAssist and so much more. The best part is once you have wrapped and get things going you are able to use the handle bars to stretch with both hands.
 
doublelongdaddy;n1816390 said:
The LengthMaster has many functions, not only does it do chamber exercise but it is a hanger, a PowerAssist and so much more. The best part is once you have wrapped and get things going you are able to use the handle bars to stretch with both hands.

It seems bundled downward stretches is the best exercise I've done with the length master so far. I might go back to that exercise and stick to it together with the Phallosan.
 
HG,
I know these are posted elsewhere but what did your LM routine look like?

My current routine is:
AM
10 min Jelq 90% Erect
10 min Bathmate fully erect
5 min Jelq
10 min Bathmate

PM
15 min LM Bundled Stretches
30 min Power Assist Stretches
60 min Vac/Rod Extender max force
2-3 hrs lite Phallosan Forte

Due to privacy, the AM routine is 5 days a week and the PM routine is 6 days a week.
 
Really, 1/8" is nothing to cry about. That's almost so small you could attribute it to something like a change in hydration levels, body fat fluctuation, or more likely, tissue fatigue.

Don't go right to thinking hanging isn't working. Vac hanging or otherwise, 10lbs is just getting started. You can pull much harder with your hands, albeit not for more than a couple minutes at longest for the average guy. Don't let DLDs lack of success even at much higher weight demotivate you either. He's a PE freak and was nearly ripping his penis off several times a day before he tried hanging.

?
 
I am new to the site but not to PE. Been doing PE two years and have seen 1-1/2” length increase and 3/4” girth increase (although I have never targeted girth as length is my only focus).

So, I started out and had a very slow start, three months and zero gains but then things finally got going and I saw decent newbie gains over the next six/eight months.
Since then tho, it has been a struggle. Almost a year of various routines and only 3/8” to show for it.

About two months ago I decided I would break down and commit to hanging.

Using a vac hanger, I established 10 lbs as a comfortable starting weight (after multiple months of assisted stretching, 10 pounds didn’t feel that heavy). The first month averaged about seven hours a week and only had two off days the first month.
The second month I added a split set and average about 9-1/2 hrs a week. All of my hanging has been extreme BTC, body horizontal, legs up, weight down.

My frustration came last night after hanging I popped in the vac cylinder for a quick pump before jumping on the Mrs and I was shocked to see my extension in the tube was SHORTER then it was before I started hanging.
That wasn’t really the time to get excited so this morning I wake up, jump in the shower, manual stretch for 10 min after drying off, and then check my BPFSL and sure as shit, it is 1/8” shorter.

I am really ticked about this right now. I know I have read about guys saying hanging didn’t work for them but I always chalked that up to them not being consistent or hanging too light of weights. Neither is true for me yet I am going the wrong way...

Thought? Questions? Advice?

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I look forward to your all’s replies.

Michael

lol you're freaking out over an 1/8th ''loss'' ...sounds more like mental insecurity, there are people who can literally prevent themselves from achieving an erection due to their mindset.
Secondly, you just started hanging, this is a serious trauma to the penis, the same with clamping, there were times when i first started that my erection would be .5 smaller than what it usually was because my dick was stressed.
this is all newbie paranoia.
Lastly, you're stretching your dick, you may not gain any if the weight isn't sufficient, but you deff aren't going to lose any, what you're suffering from is stress on the penis, you didn't lose anything.
 
Really, 1/8" is nothing to cry about. That's almost so small you could attribute it to something like a change in hydration levels, body fat fluctuation, or more likely, tissue fatigue.

Don't go right to thinking hanging isn't working. Vac hanging or otherwise, 10lbs is just getting started. You can pull much harder with your hands, albeit not for more than a couple minutes at longest for the average guy. Don't let DLDs lack of success even at much higher weight demotivate you either. He's a PE freak and was nearly ripping his penis off several times a day before he tried hanging.

?
hahaha that's what i said! there were times when i was like 1/2'' smaller after a couple weeks of clamping, this guy starts hanging for a month and stresses his dick then gets paranoid thinking hes lost size, which is impossible if your pulling out your dick, literally makes no sense.
newbie paranoia all of a sudden ''hanging doesn't work'' ''clamping doesn't work''... and eventually ''PE doesn't work!'
we eed a sub section or thread that literally deals with these paranoia issues ALL newbs get.
 
Guys, I honestly appreciate the input, I do but

I am not a newbie, I am not paranoid, and I am pretty sure ya’ll didn’t actually read the whole post.

That said, if an evaluation after two months of hanging isn’t valid great, I understand that and thanks for the heads up. I just didn’t want to waste half a year playing with a routine that I wasn’t going to see benefits doing... end of the day, I don’t really care how strong my cock is, I am doing this for length gains.

I do thank ya’ll for the replies and the advice.
 
Guys, I honestly appreciate the input, I do but

I am not a newbie, I am not paranoid, and I am pretty sure ya’ll didn’t actually read the whole post.

That said, if an evaluation after two months of hanging isn’t valid great, I understand that and thanks for the heads up. I just didn’t want to waste half a year playing with a routine that I wasn’t going to see benefits doing... end of the day, I don’t really care how strong my cock is, I am doing this for length gains.

I do thank ya’ll for the replies and the advice.
Stick to hanging, read what STILL linked, and im sure the gains will role in, I boil it down to over training, its happened to me like i said, many times, but its important to remember its not loss of size, if you give sufficient time off you'd get right back. It's an unfortunate part of gaining, sometimes when you're gaining your erection and size suffer.
 
I can say that any kind of frustration regardless of what part of your body your looking for gains in, will always play a role, the key is to over come it with determination and support from a knowledgeable and helpful community like this one.
 
I can say that any kind of frustration regardless of what part of your body your looking for gains in, will always play a role, the key is to over come it with determination and support from a knowledgeable and helpful community like this one.

Thanks my Brother! When I hear that I become proud of the Brotherhood!
 

Let me start with, I tuned out after you used the word cry.

Second, I have purchased a malehanger.

Third, I used 10-12 lbs for two months working up to split sets and just shy of 10 hrs a week.

Fourth, Prior to starting my routine I talked with BiB and I looked at every single website and posted/asked if anyone has had success using the progressive hanging method (I go by Mike03016 on the two other forums). I couldn’t find one single success story (and that also includes post from Big Al).
I wanted to find some success stories because progressive hanging makes sense but if progressive hanging success stories are out there, they are well protected.
 
Let me start with, I tuned out after you used the word cry.

Second, I have purchased a malehanger.

Third, I used 10-12 lbs for two months working up to split sets and just shy of 10 hrs a week.

Fourth, Prior to starting my routine I talked with BiB and I looked at every single website and posted/asked if anyone has had success using the progressive hanging method (I go by Mike03016 on the two other forums). I couldn’t find one single success story (and that also includes post from Big Al).
I wanted to find some success stories because progressive hanging makes sense but if progressive hanging success stories are out there, they are well protected.
the point wasn't that youre going to gain at low weight, the point was to you're going to get your shaft accustomed to weight without it getting overtrained, you can hang what ever you want, i hang heavy, but im not worried about my erection taking a little bit of a beating for a while.
 
So, I am a member here... I haven’t said anything negative... I have supported ya’ll purchasing the MaleHanger and the LM...

Yeah, this site is awesome and very helpful.
LMFAO :p:p:p:p
 
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