Enthusiastic spouse+ foreplay pump works for me.

I can not personally use the vacuum cups you are talking about. The biggest one they sell from these companies have an inside diameter of 42 mm (~1.65") that will not work for me.
But I'm happy some men can use them. Just really strange they only have 3 sizes of these cups. But I'm not sorry. I have the LengthMaster 3.0, and it will give me all the lengthgains I need.

The problem is not that the cup is too big when I'm putting it on. Its more with the gap created between the cup and the sleeve/shaft because when youre stretching your girth is thinner then when its in a normal state.

So when I'm putting it on everything is pretty snug but once stretching the gap between the lip of the cup and shaft becomes bigger which tends to loosen the grip of the sleeve.

I was thinking maybe just a tighter sleeve and not a smaller cup is needed.
 
The problem is not that the cup is too big when I'm putting it on. Its more with the gap created between the cup and the sleeve/shaft because when youre stretching your girth is thinner then when its in a normal state.

So when I'm putting it on everything is pretty snug but once stretching the gap between the lip of the cup and shaft becomes bigger which tends to loosen the grip of the sleeve.

I was thinking maybe just a tighter sleeve and not a smaller cup is needed.
okey then I understand. I did try to use Phalosan Forte but didn't work for me, that's why I'm scared of these suction cup based systems.

So a tighter sleeve and the same vacuum cup, that should work. Do you have any protection on your glans? The water trick looks smart. Some men only apply lubrication/some ointment on their glans to prevent friction.
 
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okey then I understand. I did try to use Phalosan Forte but didn't work for me, that's why I'm scared of these suction cup based systems.

So a tighter sleeve and the same vacuum cup, that should work. Do you have any protection on your glans? The water trick looks smart. Some men only apply lubrication/some ointment on their glans to prevent friction.

I picked up some gland protectors and it solved the fluid rention problem. Now I'm a bit concerned with turtling I think its called. No turtle neck just bunched up skin on the shaft.
 
Yea.. I've seen the turkey neck...thats not what's happening. Today it seemed like turteling was occurring. Is that a sign for some guys that its not going to work and should stop? Not try to make the opposite occur.
Retraction of the flaccid penis is a natural thing.
It can be triggered more by stress (psychological and physical), cold environment, overtraining (PE), lack off sleep, mental statw...and other things.
 
Retraction of the flaccid penis is a natural thing.
It can be triggered more by stress (psychological and physical), cold environment, overtraining (PE), lack off sleep, mental statw...and other things.

Ok so what should I do about it? Take a day or more off? I did over the past couple days pull a bit harder and longer than usual.
 
Amazing really. I spent 8 hours a day doing pe and I gained 4 inches in length and 2.25 inches in girth. I would have killed to gain doing very little but it seems to work for you

I always say we all gain differently. When I was using the length master, I used it for 1 hour daily doing three 20 minutes session. It was very addictive.
 
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