Election 2004 - Who will win?
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kausion_420
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I feel that bush will win however it would be best in my opinion if Kerry won.
I thought Bush was gonna win but lately he's been falling behind in some very key states, so I think that Kerry will win! (WooHoo!)
kausion_420
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Who do you think will win Texan?
I am noticing on all over the TV commercials how they are trying to get young people to vote and such. Many adds by C-rappers and R&B singers telling young peeps to vote. My concern with that is if Bush wins he will want conscription. The first to get conscripted are the young people or those not making enough money to be economically useful to the country.
When you register to vote you are registering for jury duty and in the event of conscription those who registered to vote are taken from the list and drafted. Most of the young people who do vote Im pretty sure will be voting for Kerry which is in their best interest.
My fingers are crossed that Kerry wins but Bush has more influence over the more powerful people in the states.
I am noticing on all over the TV commercials how they are trying to get young people to vote and such. Many adds by C-rappers and R&B singers telling young peeps to vote. My concern with that is if Bush wins he will want conscription. The first to get conscripted are the young people or those not making enough money to be economically useful to the country.
When you register to vote you are registering for jury duty and in the event of conscription those who registered to vote are taken from the list and drafted. Most of the young people who do vote Im pretty sure will be voting for Kerry which is in their best interest.
My fingers are crossed that Kerry wins but Bush has more influence over the more powerful people in the states.
Kerry all the way, fuck Bush he can pack his shit and take a dip in a reeeally deep ocean.
I am kinda starting to think Bush is going to take it. I want Bush to win, but for awhile I wasn't feeling too good about things. It seems since the last debate that Bush has been doing better.
I think that a lot of people are voting AGAINST Bush, rather than for Kerry, and that is not good for the Democrats. Also, as the election draws nearer, you hear the Dems talking more and more about "new voters." James Carville, Clinton campaign adviser and Democrat pundit, said, 'Do you know what you call a candidate counting on new voters to win? A Loser.' I hope this holds true.
Either way, I am sure it will be a close election.
I think that a lot of people are voting AGAINST Bush, rather than for Kerry, and that is not good for the Democrats. Also, as the election draws nearer, you hear the Dems talking more and more about "new voters." James Carville, Clinton campaign adviser and Democrat pundit, said, 'Do you know what you call a candidate counting on new voters to win? A Loser.' I hope this holds true.
Either way, I am sure it will be a close election.
I am of the opinion that John Kerry will be our next President. This is just my personal belief because of several factors. The Democrats are lawyering up in places like Florida to attempt to do what they almost did in 2000. In states like Ohio, organization like the Soros-backed ACT and labor unions have registered more voters than the entire Census population of Franklin County. Numerous voter registrations have been filled out with one common address--the union hall, somewhere around Youngstown. There is the dispicable Colorado initiative to divide the electoral votes. The DNC last week released a memo to insiders instructing them to argue for voter disenfranchisement, EVEN IF NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE EXISTS. As much as I hope to see Bush re-elected, I believe it will ultimately be Kerry.
As for my vote, I'm voting for change. Not the change that is preached about on the "Slacker Uprising" tour or like events. I am voting to change the Democratic Party. See, we need two viable parties in this country. People should vote for a candidate, not an individual. But the Democratic Party has gone so far to the radical fringe left that too far gone into Marxism that the only thing that can save it is a brutal wake-up call. It must be defeated to such a degree that it is forced to return to its roots and rethink the path it has taken. At one time, our parties held relatively similar platform on many issues and the pressing issues were economic fiscal policy, mostly relating to labor and trade regulations. Today, our disunity makes our political make-up around the time of the Civil War look like the decade of unity. And the Republicans aren't much better. They're fast becoming a leftist party as well and I am a very reluctant Republican, with the understanding that the Libertarian and Constitutional Parties are not viable options.
That's my take on it. Many disagree and many of those that do are good people with the best of intentions, which is the only thing I can take comfort in at the end of the day.
As for my vote, I'm voting for change. Not the change that is preached about on the "Slacker Uprising" tour or like events. I am voting to change the Democratic Party. See, we need two viable parties in this country. People should vote for a candidate, not an individual. But the Democratic Party has gone so far to the radical fringe left that too far gone into Marxism that the only thing that can save it is a brutal wake-up call. It must be defeated to such a degree that it is forced to return to its roots and rethink the path it has taken. At one time, our parties held relatively similar platform on many issues and the pressing issues were economic fiscal policy, mostly relating to labor and trade regulations. Today, our disunity makes our political make-up around the time of the Civil War look like the decade of unity. And the Republicans aren't much better. They're fast becoming a leftist party as well and I am a very reluctant Republican, with the understanding that the Libertarian and Constitutional Parties are not viable options.
That's my take on it. Many disagree and many of those that do are good people with the best of intentions, which is the only thing I can take comfort in at the end of the day.
Ahh, just checked in for the first time in a long while (been traveling). I agree with Penguinsfan, though I'm not certain. A projected 60% voter turnout this year is also good news for Kerry, as high voter turnouts tend to favor democrats. Also, it is of interest (though little actual importance) that the Nickelodeon kids poll picked Kerry, and this little survery has actually never been wrong. Kerry Currently leads in Ohio, and isn't trailing badly in any battleground state (generally within margins of error). Personally I've been dissappointed by the empty rhetoric and shit-spinning from both sides since the final debate, but I suppose it is a high stakes game.
Give Bush a bottle of Whiskey, and the election is already completed. 
penguinsfan that was a great post. I agree with you. I will be voting for Bush. I feel a win for Bush will let our media know that they cant elect our president through lies and half-truths.
Up until Clintons second term I had always voted democrat. But I feel that the party has been usurped by people who if known personally would not be considered trustworthy, intelligent, or enlightend. They pander to hate and fear and prejudice. They frighten the old and corrupt the young. Not my kind of people.
Up until Clintons second term I had always voted democrat. But I feel that the party has been usurped by people who if known personally would not be considered trustworthy, intelligent, or enlightend. They pander to hate and fear and prejudice. They frighten the old and corrupt the young. Not my kind of people.
kausion_420
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I am noticing how many gimicks Kerry is using to try and get votes. Half his votes will be coming from those who would rather elect an apple pie than to have bush run another 4 years. The other half are those falling victim to all the gimicks and celebrities wanting them to vote for Kerry.
I don't even like bush and now I would almost rather see him win. I don't think using gimicks should be allowed when it comes to an election.
I don't even like bush and now I would almost rather see him win. I don't think using gimicks should be allowed when it comes to an election.
I agree kausion. People need truth and honor. The world needs truth and honor.
These people on my TV, sometimes I wonder how they mange to tie their own shoes and wipe their own butts.
On a lighter note, I really envy you living up in there Canada. I love the North with the snow. I lived in Ohio for a long time and really miss the harsh winters and obvious seasonal changes. Here in Houston its hot and concrete in that order
I understand you Canadians have easy access to the ganja as well, something I think we could all use once in a while rofl
These people on my TV, sometimes I wonder how they mange to tie their own shoes and wipe their own butts.
On a lighter note, I really envy you living up in there Canada. I love the North with the snow. I lived in Ohio for a long time and really miss the harsh winters and obvious seasonal changes. Here in Houston its hot and concrete in that order
I understand you Canadians have easy access to the ganja as well, something I think we could all use once in a while roflLOL guys, it's all staged. Bush is gonna win by work. Remember he has the voting machines in his favor.
Less then 50% of the American people vote anyhow. I bet the voting is strictly internal.
Like a black dude name Don Matthews I think it was. Read it in the Swedish newspaper. Well he lives in the more poorer parts of Ohio. And he said that
"Usally they don't give a damn about us black folks. But when there is an election, we all get some celebrities. And everybody wants us to vote. Im not going to vote, so is the majority of the black and the poor people."
Down with the Bushes once and forever.
Like a black dude name Don Matthews I think it was. Read it in the Swedish newspaper. Well he lives in the more poorer parts of Ohio. And he said that
"Usally they don't give a damn about us black folks. But when there is an election, we all get some celebrities. And everybody wants us to vote. Im not going to vote, so is the majority of the black and the poor people."
Down with the Bushes once and forever.
GhosT_DoGG said:
Don Matthews is absolutely correct, Ghost, and that is one of my main problems with the Democrat party. That is not the Republicans doing that. For one thing, nearly all the celebrities are liberals and every election year they come down out of Beverly Hills to the lower east side telling everybody how much better things will be with Carter/Mondale/Dukakis/Clinton/Gore/Kerry in office, but guess what... soon as the election is over, those people won't be caught dead in that part of town. The Democrats pull the ultimate "carrot and stick" gimmick on minorities. You would think at some point the poor, the black, they would catch on, like many of the Hispanics have caught on, and realize that the Democrats only love minorities in election years.
Living in Sweden, why do you dislike Bush so much... and more interesting, why do you think Kerry should be President of our country? I can't help but feel like you are basing your opinions on what you see on TV. Being a Texan, I had Bush as a Governor for 6 years and now as President for 4 years and he is a good man and a good leader. Not all of his policies are 100% in line with what I feel is right, but in our two-party system, we don't have a lot of choices. Kerry is a scary person. He says whatever he thinks he needs to say to get one more vote. The problem with that is I honestly don't know what this man REALLY believes.
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GhosT_DoGG said:
The number is really close to 25% who actually vote. About 50% are registered, and of those about half actually vote. I believe this is due in large part to our electoral college system. There is no telling how many Democrats in Texas don't vote because they know Bush will carry Texas. Same with Republicans in Cal and NY.
What do you mean by the voting being strictly internal?