Can (ligament) stretching effect erect angle?

[Mike03016]

Please conXinue Xo posX SA,
I agree wiXh you on mosX posX as I Xhink we have also had similar experiences to daXe.

I have like 30 posX here aX MoS and hundreds aX (ediX)... does XhaX imply I am only PE knowledgeable aX (ediX) and don’X know shiX here at MoS.... maybe buX XhaX would be pretXXy fucked up.

Self censored / T’s removed from post

 

[DLD]

Please continue to post SA,
I agree with you on most post as I think we have also had similar experiences to date.

I have like 30 post here at MoS and hundreds at ?.... does that imply I am only PE knowledgeable at ? and don’t know shit here at MoS.... maybe but that would be pretty fucked up.

???? @Lightning

 

[sordidaffair]

Sorry i did read it wrong.

So 1inch the first 6months and 0.4inch 12 months after that.

I did the base grib flaccid stretch downwards just now and I felt that if you grab the base there is non force on the tunica. The tunica stays 'flaccid' no force and the tunics won't create (micro)damage

With my other hand I felt the tunica and grabbed the tunica with my 2 fingers.

But all the force is created in the surrounding of the pubic bone and skin etc in that area.

Also if you grab at the base flaccid (I did it again right now) the grib is going towards the glans and piles up the skin to the glans.

If you grib your glans and stretch immediately you can feel it in the tunica

So where did the gains come from if the base grib downwards stretch isn't effecting the tunica. (I did it again just now) no tunics involvement.

Your tunica gets involved? My not what's going on

Ok then.

English is not my native language so i am not sure that i understand correctly what you say.

I don't know how it is possible to stretch with a grip at the base. I mean that if you do that the whole shaft remains without tension and you basically stretching your skin. Gripping the glans is the most effective, because its the only way to prevent skin stretching. Also the tension is transferred to the whole penis smoothly. Gripping at mid shaft, again you dont target the whole tunica and there is some skin stretching involved.

If you are a manual stretcher maybe you have realise that you cant hold the stretch enough time with the OK grip because your penis slip. Instead face your palm, rotate it and place your penis(just under the glans) to the space between your index finger and your middle finger and stretch. Like the V sign(peace).

 

[Mike03016]

???? @Lightning

I will censor my own post that used the letter “T”.
Funny because I advertise for you and the LengthMaster over there all the time but ok, I get it.

 

[DLD]

I will censor my own post that used the letter “T”.
Funny because I advertise for you and the LengthMaster over there all the time but ok, I get it.

We don’t want to badmouth any of the other forums so we have made every other forum of monkey. We are here to build the brotherhood up not to cross promote forums. I appreciate you promoting us wherever you can so don’t take that the wrong way. I’m thankful that you’re helping us.

 

[FullBloodArab]

Ok then.

English is not my native language so i am not sure that i understand correctly what you say.

I don't know how it is possible to stretch with a grip at the base. I mean that if you do that the whole shaft remains without tension and you basically stretching your skin. Gripping the glans is the most effective, because its the only way to prevent skin stretching. Also the tension is transferred to the whole penis smoothly. Gripping at mid shaft, again you dont target the whole tunica and there is some skin stretching involved.

If you are a manual stretcher maybe you have realise that you cant hold the stretch enough time with the OK grip because your penis slip. Instead face your palm, rotate it and place your penis(just under the glans) to the space between your index finger and your middle finger and stretch. Like the V sign(peace).

So there is a grib just under the glans?

Like the twisting the shaft amd then stretch (don't remember the name) and just like bend the penis upward or downwards and and then stretch (has a name also)

Yeah that's seems to does something with the tunica.

But every exercises that's done from the base grip while the rest of the shaft is bend downwards or upwards, and then stretch (actually it's pulling) then you pull out the inner penis and then the ligaments are 100% involved, you can feel it with you finger pinching through the skin to feel the ligs stretching

 

[DLD]

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[sordidaffair]

So there is a grib just under the glans?

Like the twisting the shaft amd then stretch (don't remember the name) and just like bend the penis upward or downwards and and then stretch (has a name also)

Yeah that's seems to does something with the tunica.

But every exercises that's done from the base grip while the rest of the shaft is bend downwards or upwards, and then stretch (actually it's pulling) then you pull out the inner penis and then the ligaments are 100% involved, you can feel it with you finger pinching through the skin to feel the ligs stretching

I should explain it better. You don't rotate your penis like bundled stretching. You rotate your palm, you place your penis(the glans) to the space between your index finger and your middle finger and you stretch like a simple stretch. Its just a different grip and combined with some toilet paper to prevent slipping i have find that its way better than the traditional OK grip.

The inner penis theory comes from a wrong anatomical understanding about the penis. The penis is tied to the body by the inside, the roots of the penis are attached to the bones and you cant pull them out. Its an obselete theory like the LOT, but thats an other long discussion.

Every stretch target both the tunica and ligaments at some degree, since the ligaments goes much higher to the shaft than most people realise. The best way to target the most important points of the penis is gripping at the glans, because there is no skin stretching involved.

 

[FullBloodArab]

Guys i just wanted to share my thoughts and give some feedback. I have done a lot of research about PE, penis anatomy and i have read a lot of progress threads from people who have made big gains.

I honestly want to help if i can, i have not bad intentions.

That's why I've thanked everyone couple of posts ago who've gave there opinion.

But it's juts that there are more then 1000 opinions in the PE forums. And only watch the guys who's past are known and documented and are willing to help and show a high involved from day 1 towards other pe-ers.

Because for me 1 exercise should take 6 months dedication. I can't rely a 6 months 600 hours exercise on a unknown person, I hope you understand. And so I've let it known to you when you commented
(I could have ignored you but that's not the right thing to do for my own thread)

I should explain it better. You don't rotate your penis like bundled stretching. You rotate your palm, you place your penis(the glans) to the space between your index finger and your middle finger and you stretch like a simple stretch. Its just a different grip and combined with some toilet paper to prevent slipping i have find that its way better than the traditional OK grip.

The inner penis theory comes from a wrong anatomical understanding about the penis. The penis is tied to the body by the inside, the roots of the penis are attached to the bones and you cant pull them out. Its an obselete theory like the LOT, but thats an other long discussion.

Every stretch target both the tunica and ligaments at some degree, since the ligaments goes much higher to the shaft than most people realise. The best way to target the most important points of the penis is gripping at the glans, because there is no skin stretching involved.

Oké the inner penis I just meant by that the gain that comes in view. Because the tunica enlarges with micro damage only. That is scientifically proven.

So now that we do not target the tunica with the base grip but still the gains are created.

Where does it come from?

Call it the ligs call it the inner penis
Or just say that the tunica is going 2inch in the body also

The name isn't important for a PE-er but the gains are

And they coming from the base and further in

And that's the base grip (and bend the shaft upwards or downwards, and thats just for not slipping from the base grip) and pulling/stretching it, it does that in my opinion

 

[Mike03016]

But it's juts that there are more then 1000 opinions in the PE forums. And only watch the guys who's past are known and documented and are willing to help and show a high involved from day 1 towards other pe-ers.

Because for me 1 exercise should take 6 months dedication. I can't rely a 6 months 600 hours exercise on a unknown person, I hope you understand. And so I've let it known to you when you commented
(I could have ignored you but that's not the right thing to do for my own thread)

Arab, this still comes off as fucked up.
Yes, the thing people with a personality would do is be a bit more classy, understand that in six months you could be hoping this person will give you the time of day.

As for one exercise for six months/600 hours then the next exercise for six months/600 hours... interesting (see how it is done?).

You do realize that TNT, Xhunder, DLD, Bigger, Stillwantmore, RedZulu, ThoughtfulGold, etc, etc, were new posters once or twice?

Damn... too funny.

 

[stillwantmore]

We all start somewhere and we can all get along guys.

 

[FullBloodArab]

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Arab, this still comes off as fucked up.
Yes, the thing people with a personality would do is be a bit more classy, understand that in six months you could be hoping this person will give you the time of day.

As for one exercise for six months/600 hours then the next exercise for six months/600 hours... interesting (see how it is done?).

You do realize that TNT, Xhunder, DLD, Bigger, Stillwantmore, RedZulu, ThoughtfulGold, etc, etc, were new posters once or twice?

Damn... too funny.

Well you go fucking ahead and spend 6 hours a day 6 months because of one opinion.
That will be stupid as fuck and I think you are a miserable guy because you didn't understand shit about what I was telling there.

And I even won't follow dld or all the names you've said there. You go and follow who ever you want.

Coming here and throwing names at me as if they are Saint. For you they are.

And to say that it's interesting to follow a new poster for 6 months because hey maybe he will turn up like dld, because he began as a rookie, some bullshit low iq statement right there


It's my fucking 600 hours not yours dude.

I follow dld in combination with others in the entire PE info and not just 1 person

Nobody has the holy grain and full understand of how each dick would work.

I understand now that your brains does not work proper that's for sure

And it's not that you can compare the fucking 80/90's or whatever with the HUGE LOAD of info we have now and huge participants to take from, we should be glad that we are in a time of devices and experienced people.

I don't know why I'm telling you this and still have to explain these things to a grownup, as if i stand before a kindergarten classroom.

So move the damn hell out of my thread dude

 

[stillwantmore]

Seriously guys take it down a notch, or I'll start playing moderator

 

[arkailija]

Exactly as SWM put it! There's no attacking of other members here at MoS!

FLAMING
There will be no flaming or mean spirited arguing at MOS. The members of this forum will respect one another as in any club atmosphere. Please respect one another’s positions and keep an open mind. If you have issues with another member please present them in a mature, respectful way.

As said, we all start from somewhere. From my viewpoint @Mike03016 has a lot of experience. It isn't the post count or time spent on the forums that defines the amount of knowledge one might have.
I'm pretty sure there are a lot of lurkers and people outside of MoS, that have gained but they might have just read on the forums, put the lessons they've read into action and made remarks offline.
Not everybody who does PE comes to the forum and starts a progress log, logging in everything they do.
It's a great way to keep on top of what you're doing, but some people take the necessary time for PE and do it but don't have the time (or possibly interest) to write online.

With that said, if any newbie comes across, making a progress log can help you and others! But it's totally fine if one wants to be more "offline" with the PE activities.

Peace, love and understanding!

 

[Mike03016]

FBA,
All good bro.

Good luck with your PE journey, I do wish you well.

Michael

 

[REDZULU2003]

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Well you go fucking ahead and spend 6 hours a day 6 months because of one opinion.
That will be stupid as fuck and I think you are a miserable guy because you didn't understand shit about what I was telling there.

And I even won't follow dld or all the names you've said there. You go and follow who ever you want.

Coming here and throwing names at me as if they are Saint. For you they are.

And to say that it's interesting to follow a new poster for 6 months because hey maybe he will turn up like dld, because he began as a rookie, some bullshit low iq statement right there


It's my fucking 600 hours not yours dude.

I follow dld in combination with others in the entire PE info and not just 1 person

Nobody has the holy grain and full understand of how each dick would work.

I understand now that your brains does not work proper that's for sure

And it's not that you can compare the fucking 80/90's or whatever with the HUGE LOAD of info we have now and huge participants to take from, we should be glad that we are in a time of devices and experienced people.

I don't know why I'm telling you this and still have to explain these things to a grownup, as if i stand before a kindergarten classroom.

So move the damn hell out of my thread dude

Watch your language towards others, and take it easy

Keep using bad language, which in this case is aggression towards another member, and action will be taken against you.

You would not act like that outside, so do not act like that here.

Thanks

 

[Brawn Johnson]

As for one exercise for six months/600 hours then the next exercise for six months/600 hours... interesting (see how it is done?).

I see what you did there.


Hey FullBlood,

People are just taking issue with your delivery, not your message. You're absolutely right, way more people voice their opinions than probably should. And you WILL lose a lot of time if you follow incorrect advice, so you want to be careful who you're listening to. I agree 100%. I also agree with you that ignoring a post isn't ideal, either. (Though it would have been an improvement). You've got the right idea thanking everyone who takes time to respond, whether or not you intend to use their advice, and it would have been perfectly awesome to just thank SA for responding and then move on.

The problem is how harsh and dismissive it came off to just flat out tell him you don't care what he thinks, and frankly I'm amazed he's still helping you. I would be done with the thread after that. That's Mike's point, we're telling you this for your own good, not trying to beat you down or anything! If you want people to keep helping you, you gotta play nice! This website has the whole Christian thing going on, and that seems to make people a lot more forgiving of each other. But I promise you, the best in most fields will help you ONCE (if they feel like it) and if you respond like you did to SA, you'll never hear from them again. Mike's last post, for instance, sounded an awful lot like a polite "goodbye forever." I could be wrong, or that could be bridge burned unnecessarily. Don't do that to yourself!

 

[FullBloodArab]

Exactly as SWM put it! There's no attacking of other members here at MoS!


As said, we all start from somewhere. From my viewpoint @Mike03016 has a lot of experience. It isn't the post count or time spent on the forums that defines the amount of knowledge one might have.
I'm pretty sure there are a lot of lurkers and people outside of MoS, that have gained but they might have just read on the forums, put the lessons they've read into action and made remarks offline.
Not everybody who does PE comes to the forum and starts a progress log, logging in everything they do.
It's a great way to keep on top of what you're doing, but some people take the necessary time for PE and do it but don't have the time (or possibly interest) to write online.

With that said, if any newbie comes across, making a progress log can help you and others! But it's totally fine if one wants to be more "offline" with the PE activities.

Peace, love and understanding!

You are right. Lots of lurkers who've gained.

But I only take from the ones who made effort to learn others. But not some lurking guy suddenly appears who has gained 5inches. won't take that for granted in my case.

Others may depend there exercises on them they are free to do so.

 

[FullBloodArab]

Watch your language towards others, and take it easy

Keep using bad language, which in this case is aggression towards another member, and action will be taken against you.

You would not act like that outside, so do not act like that here.

Thanks

It was just a reaction to someone's behaviour and my reaction was of the same level as his

 

[DLD]

You do realize that TNT, Xhunder, DLD, Bigger, Stillwantmore, RedZulu, ThoughtfulGold, etc, etc, were new posters once or twice?

Damn... too funny.

No problem my brother this was a great topic for us to dive into an explorer. I think everybody got something out of this and I don’t think this is the end of the thread.

 

[FullBloodArab]

I see what you did there.


Hey FullBlood,

People are just taking issue with your delivery, not your message. You're absolutely right, way more people voice their opinions than probably should. And you WILL lose a lot of time if you follow incorrect advice, so you want to be careful who you're listening to. I agree 100%. I also agree with you that ignoring a post isn't ideal, either. (Though it would have been an improvement). You've got the right idea thanking everyone who takes time to respond, whether or not you intend to use their advice, and it would have been perfectly awesome to just thank SA for responding and then move on.

The problem is how harsh and dismissive it came off to just flat out tell him you don't care what he thinks, and frankly I'm amazed he's still helping you. I would be done with the thread after that. That's Mike's point, we're telling you this for your own good, not trying to beat you down or anything! If you want people to keep helping you, you gotta play nice! This website has the whole Christian thing going on, and that seems to make people a lot more forgiving of each other. But I promise you, the best in most fields will help you ONCE (if they feel like it) and if you respond like you did to SA, you'll never hear from them again. Mike's last post, for instance, sounded an awful lot like a polite "goodbye forever." I could be wrong, or that could be bridge burned unnecessarily. Don't do that to yourself!

You amazed Sordidafair still helpend me? I don't understand.

At it was about that I've mentioned something to Sordi and I know he understands it.

And then we've talked further about the ligs etc because I will talke to everyone and chat with everyone about PE newbee or veteran.

And we've just talked a very fine way about PE. There was no problem anymore

But I won't take from him in my PE.

I won't take from a PHD professor penile surgeon. But I will chat with him about the penis.

But I'll never take my PE exercise from him, the most knowledgeable person in the world about the penis.

Has nothing to do with taking the clamp or jelq exercise from him

But yes I'll talk in a very good manner with everyone.

I've someone is harsh then I react harsh and that person will never react harsh on others here on the forum because of my behaviour towards him (there is always something good coming out)

 

[DLD]

Seriously guys take it down a notch, or I'll start playing moderator

We love spirited discussion but I will not stand for any type of disrespect for one another. Have respect for others opinions if you disagree do so with respect. We’re a family here all of us brothers, do not give a poor impression to those on the sidelines. We need to be mature and friendly with one another or people won’t want to come in and join. Before you send a message read it and make sure it’s respectful.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Just watch your attitude on here, and all will be well. Same to the rest.

 

[DLD]

Just watch your attitude on here, and all will be well. Same to the rest.

Exactly! Love your Brothers just like you love yourself! We are all equal in this family, no one above the other.

 

[FullBloodArab]

Just watch your attitude on here, and all will be well. Same to the rest.

Usually the starter is first to approach. not the counter person. But I agree with you
If someone misbehave warning and then a ban

 

[REDZULU2003]

How you react is also important, not always he started it first. Lets put a line under it, and be good.

 

[sordidaffair]

[QUOTE="Brawn Johnson, post: 1828599
The problem is how harsh and dismissive it came off to just flat out tell him you don't care what he thinks, and frankly I'm amazed he's still helping you. I would be done with the thread after that
[/QUOTE]

You are right.
I post my answers for future readers too. Also i can't take something personal, since this is not a face to face communication.

 

[DLD]

[QUOTE="Brawn Johnson, post: 1828599
The problem is how harsh and dismissive it came off to just flat out tell him you don't care what he thinks, and frankly I'm amazed he's still helping you. I would be done with the thread after that

You are right.
I post my answers for future readers too. Also i can't take something personal, since this is not a face to face communication.
[/QUOTE]


I do the same thing! ?

 

[huge-girth]

It’s strange I’ve always done down word heavy work but I’ve only increased my erection angle it’s never lowered. This is why I never put stock in the lot theory because in my case it made no sense. As far as lot was concerned I could not make any more gains stretching downward. After I heard that i gained two more inches stretching downward! But through all that work my erection angle never dropped it actually went up a few degrees.

So many people don't know how powerful downward bundled stretches are.