Argyle's Awesome Additions (A^3)

[DLD]

Thanks! I'll do this with the LM instead of my hands

The Lengthmaster is the most powerful way to stretch. So glad you are moving into using your Lengthmaster.

 

[Argyle]

For the last month and a half or so, I've been unable to do any PE. Now, it's time to get back to it. I've stayed in my Silisleev each day, so luckily I haven't lost and gains made to BPSFL or BPEL. I want to start doing the routine mentioned a few posts back, but since I've had this break, I probably need to recondition my penis.

@oldandlively @huge-girth @DLD what should I do to recondition, and how long should I recondition before I start that advanced routine we discussed before?

 

[oldandlively]

Start slow and steady. Initiate the newbie routine under the SRT again. Slowly!! No need to push hard. You took time to heal and rest, take the same amount of care to get back up into conditioning routine. Go for the newbie routine for the next 3 weeks, then increase further with the intensity day by day until you get back to normal again. Remember, newbie routine is only around 2.5lb to 3lbs of traction force. Don't go too high and too fast. After 3 weeks, the traction force should be increased 0.5lb every 1 to 2 weeks to recondition your penis.

 

[Argyle]

Start slow and steady. Initiate the newbie routine under the SRT again. Slowly!! No need to push hard. You took time to heal and rest, take the same amount of care to get back up into conditioning routine. Go for the newbie routine for the next 3 weeks, then increase further with the intensity day by day until you get back to normal again. Remember, newbie routine is only around 2.5lb to 3lbs of traction force. Don't go too high and too fast. After 3 weeks, the traction force should be increased 0.5lb every 1 to 2 weeks to recondition your penis.

I've never actually done an SRT routine before. I started off with LM3 work. A beginner routine, then DLD Bundled Blasters, then BTC Bundle Stretchers. Should I start with SRT and continue it, or should I use it to get back to BTC Stretches?

I'm not quite happy with my length gains yet, and I've been told that it's better to get length goals and then focus on girth, but I think I'm ready to start working on girth alongside length. For the best gains with SRT, do I need a pump (MityVac, Bathmate)?

 

[oldandlively]

I've never actually done an SRT routine before. I started off with LM3 work. A beginner routine, then DLD Bundled Blasters, then BTC Bundle Stretchers. Should I start with SRT and continue it, or should I use it to get back to BTC Stretches?

SRT is a program, where bundled BTC stretches are part of the SRT. Bundled BTC works in stretching the ligaments and base muscles, while putting stresses on the tunica, and other exercises within the SRT helps to balance out the bundled BTC. Don't just stick with BTC without using other exercises within the SRT. For example rotators is moving your penis like a clock hand in front of you. That allows the tissues to be stretched in all angles. When you pull down and up, you balance out the tissues from not just one direction. When you use stretches from side to side, in specific angles, you're stretching the tunica ligaments to further stretching things out. BTC is just one exercise of many.

I'm not quite happy with my length gains yet, and I've been told that it's better to get length goals and then focus on girth, but I think I'm ready to start working on girth alongside length. For the best gains with SRT, do I need a pump (MityVac, Bathmate)?

If you are working girth with length, don't use Bathmate. Use something that's ready to go with safety built in. Mityvac and similar devices will be your best bet as it has pressure releases, gauge to monitor all pressure levels, and markers on the cylinders to provide you exactly the tension your penis is under while being influenced by negative pressures.

 

[DLD]

I've never actually done an SRT routine before. I started off with LM3 work. A beginner routine, then DLD Bundled Blasters, then BTC Bundle Stretchers. Should I start with SRT and continue it, or should I use it to get back to BTC Stretches?

Do it! You will be amazed at the outcome. SRT is the best all in one program ever created. You have the tool so jump in and see how it feels. Sometimes I feel like I grew faster because of prayer. I prayed daily for what I wanted and eventually got there. Try the SRT and report back.

 

[Argyle]

@oldandlively @DLD @huge-girth I have some questions about SRT.

1. Will I still make gains/Can I stay elongated (no tension) in a SiliSleeve instead of staying stretched (yes tension) in an ADS like the SiliStretcher or SizeDoctor? I don't think I'll be able to use the SiliStretcher in public based on what I need to wear at work, but I've worn a SiliSleeve ALL DAY, EVERY DAY since I bought my first one many months ago. I've noticed that I haven't lost any BPEL or BPSFL gains I made even though I haven't trained in about a month, only stayed elongated (no tension) in a SiliSleeve, and have not gotten actively stretched with tension like I would get from the SiliStretcher/SizeDoctor.

2. What does the SiliRing do differently than the SiliSleev? Are they interchangeable (can I use one or the other after training and get the same results)?

3. If I don't use a SiliStretcher, can I sleep in my SiliSleev or SiliRing instead?

4. After the 2 week beginner SRT routine, it sounds like length work should be done before girth work, with at least 4 hours in between the length and girth sessions. Is that right?

 

[oldandlively]

This is from my personal experience and perspectives. Other brothers and gurus can provide different experience and perspectives than mine. Value them all as reference.

1. Will I still make gains/Can I stay elongated (no tension) in a SiliSleeve instead of staying stretched (yes tension) in an ADS like the SiliStretcher or SizeDoctor? I don't think I'll be able to use the SiliStretcher in public based on what I need to wear at work, but I've worn a SiliSleeve ALL DAY, EVERY DAY since I bought my first one many months ago. I've noticed that I haven't lost any BPEL or BPSFL gains I made even though I haven't trained in about a month, only stayed elongated (no tension) in a SiliSleeve, and have not gotten actively stretched with tension like I would get from the SiliStretcher/SizeDoctor.

Yes you can remain elongated without tension. The method of staying elongated without tension is to promote blood flow for promoting healing and rebuilding of stressed or damaged cells from your PE routines. If you have not done any routines, but keep elongated, you are reprogramming your body to obtain a new "flaccid length" rather than new erectile length gains. Two different things. You can actually do the same thing using the SiliStretcher and extender without any tension. I've done this too in the old days, where I wear the extender, with no traction tension force at all, to keep my penis elnogated while I sleep. Since I didn't have any strong wrap around my penis, there's no kinking, no blood circulation cutting, nor any pinching on the blood vessels and and nerves. Of course, it can get pretty uncomfortable when I turned from side to side, or sleep on my stomach.

If you are wearing an extender, especially after a length routine, you are forcing your penis to create constant void gaps where your body has no other choice but to fill them up with new cells, promoting length gains and not just new flaccid length.

2. What does the SiliRing do differently than the SiliSleev? Are they interchangeable (can I use one or the other after training and get the same results)?

SiliRing or similar cock ring slows down the blood flow that entered into the penile chambers from leaving, allowing the cells to pull every bit of resources carried in by the blood cells, be oxygen, nutrients, or repair blocks. Without the cock ring, the blood flows in and it flows out within a minute. During htat time, the resources are not fully dropped off to the cells that need the materials being carried by the blood. Further more, the cock ring keeps the penis plump and enlarged, causing a bit more expansion void gaps for the body to fill with new cells for penile growth. This is mainly for girth focus.

For the penis sleeve, just like #1, it's for length programming to get a new longer looking flaccid penis, but the critical point is to promote healing after an intense length routine. For girth, it still work, but only up to 30% effective. 30% is better than not having any sleeve or cock ring at all.

3. If I don't use a SiliStretcher, can I sleep in my SiliSleev or SiliRing instead?

Yes you can. SiliStretcher is focused fully on length, just like any extender. It's to boost length growth if you combine with an intense length routine using the Length Master. If you simply use the SiliStretcher by itself without any length routine before that, it'll work with standard deviation and growth performance as when you wear an extender. A device should be optimize for growth with every little method you can get your hand on. You don't go to the gym, pump weights for 20 minutes, and call it good. You upkeep the post gym with stretches to keep your muscles from being sore, from retracting, and from atrophy due to overstressing by flexing, supplements, and possibly repetetive light workouts throughout the day.

4. After the 2 week beginner SRT routine, it sounds like length work should be done before girth work, with at least 4 hours in between the length and girth sessions. Is that right?

In the SRT, a newbie routine, or beginner routine, should be done for 2 to 5 weeks just to get the tissues acquainted with the stress loads. However, that doesn't mean you stop the newbie routine. The newbie routine is actually great as preworkout tissue warm up before the real intense workout gets started. Rather than doing 15 to 20 minutes of the newbie routine, you do a quick 3 to 5 minutes warmup using newbie routines, and then go into the more progressive intense routines. This is for both length and girth type of routine.

If you're talking about 4 hours in between each workout, yes. If you done something in the morning, say, a newbie routine to warm up, a good intense workout right after to really stretch that penis, give your penis at least 4 hours of break time using wrap, sleeve, or even extender under low tension around 1kg before resuming another intense routine. 4 hours is to allow the tissues to reset, especially your ligaments. It also allow the nerves and blood vessels to restore themselves. Any frayed or stressed nerves and blood vessels recover themselves in a 24 hours period at 1mm per day cycle. Most of the time, stretching and breaking your collagen bonds only promote 1um of per day, which is the diameter of the cell. The most optimistic growth is 1mm a day, which is crazy amount of growth under stress load using an extender after the length PE routine.

So, yes, give your penis some time to play catch up, which is a minimum of 4 hours. Good average is 6 hours to 8 hours.

 

[DLD]

Thanks @oldandlively.

 

[Argyle]

This is from my personal experience and perspectives. Other brothers and gurus can provide different experience and perspectives than mine. Value them all as reference.




Yes you can remain elongated without tension. The method of staying elongated without tension is to promote blood flow for promoting healing and rebuilding of stressed or damaged cells from your PE routines. If you have not done any routines, but keep elongated, you are reprogramming your body to obtain a new "flaccid length" rather than new erectile length gains. Two different things. You can actually do the same thing using the SiliStretcher and extender without any tension. I've done this too in the old days, where I wear the extender, with no traction tension force at all, to keep my penis elnogated while I sleep. Since I didn't have any strong wrap around my penis, there's no kinking, no blood circulation cutting, nor any pinching on the blood vessels and and nerves. Of course, it can get pretty uncomfortable when I turned from side to side, or sleep on my stomach.

If you are wearing an extender, especially after a length routine, you are forcing your penis to create constant void gaps where your body has no other choice but to fill them up with new cells, promoting length gains and not just new flaccid length.




SiliRing or similar cock ring slows down the blood flow that entered into the penile chambers from leaving, allowing the cells to pull every bit of resources carried in by the blood cells, be oxygen, nutrients, or repair blocks. Without the cock ring, the blood flows in and it flows out within a minute. During htat time, the resources are not fully dropped off to the cells that need the materials being carried by the blood. Further more, the cock ring keeps the penis plump and enlarged, causing a bit more expansion void gaps for the body to fill with new cells for penile growth. This is mainly for girth focus.

For the penis sleeve, just like #1, it's for length programming to get a new longer looking flaccid penis, but the critical point is to promote healing after an intense length routine. For girth, it still work, but only up to 30% effective. 30% is better than not having any sleeve or cock ring at all.



Yes you can. SiliStretcher is focused fully on length, just like any extender. It's to boost length growth if you combine with an intense length routine using the Length Master. If you simply use the SiliStretcher by itself without any length routine before that, it'll work with standard deviation and growth performance as when you wear an extender. A device should be optimize for growth with every little method you can get your hand on. You don't go to the gym, pump weights for 20 minutes, and call it good. You upkeep the post gym with stretches to keep your muscles from being sore, from retracting, and from atrophy due to overstressing by flexing, supplements, and possibly repetetive light workouts throughout the day.




In the SRT, a newbie routine, or beginner routine, should be done for 2 to 5 weeks just to get the tissues acquainted with the stress loads. However, that doesn't mean you stop the newbie routine. The newbie routine is actually great as preworkout tissue warm up before the real intense workout gets started. Rather than doing 15 to 20 minutes of the newbie routine, you do a quick 3 to 5 minutes warmup using newbie routines, and then go into the more progressive intense routines. This is for both length and girth type of routine.

If you're talking about 4 hours in between each workout, yes. If you done something in the morning, say, a newbie routine to warm up, a good intense workout right after to really stretch that penis, give your penis at least 4 hours of break time using wrap, sleeve, or even extender under low tension around 1kg before resuming another intense routine. 4 hours is to allow the tissues to reset, especially your ligaments. It also allow the nerves and blood vessels to restore themselves. Any frayed or stressed nerves and blood vessels recover themselves in a 24 hours period at 1mm per day cycle. Most of the time, stretching and breaking your collagen bonds only promote 1um of per day, which is the diameter of the cell. The most optimistic growth is 1mm a day, which is crazy amount of growth under stress load using an extender after the length PE routine.

So, yes, give your penis some time to play catch up, which is a minimum of 4 hours. Good average is 6 hours to 8 hours.

Thanks!

Just ordered the MityVac and a set of DuroRings.

I'll get started with the beginner SRT routine tomorrow morning. I'll do the length stuff in the morning with my LM3 and throw on my Silisleeve all day. Then I'll do my girth work/jelqs in the evening and use the cock rings after that.

Should I sleep in the SiliSleeve or in the DuroRing?

 

[oldandlively]

Should I sleep in the SiliSleeve or in the DuroRing?

If the sleeve is loose, and I mean LOOSE, why not? There's no issue with blood restriction. If you need help with this, we can help you once you have it. If you only wear the sleeve alone, your penis will turtle or retract right into the sleeve. This is why a bit of TheraBand or similar materials to create traction between each end to prevent the slippage between the skin and the silicone sleeve.

 

[DLD]

Wow so awesome you are starting SRT. It always brings joy to my heart when a brother starts SRT as I know they will make incredible gains. Start out from the beginning and eventually graduate into the more hardcore version. I will pray for you in Jesus name.

 

[Argyle]

@huge-girth @oldandlively @DLD I have some more questions.

1. How long should I wear the SiliRing after my evening/nighttime girth work sessions? I will take the SiliRing off to sleep, and I'll be wearing the SiliSleeve all day starting right after my morning length session.

2. Should I be 100% erect for erect jelqs?

3. How erect should I be for squash jelqs?

4. How do you recommend I maintain erections during girth work? I have a feeling it might be difficult because I won't be aroused, and I don't really want to use adult entertainment or dick pills to keep hard during these sessions.

5. How hard do I need to squeeze for normal jelqs?

6. How hard do I need to squeeze for squash jelqs?

 

[oldandlively]

1. How long should I wear the SiliRing after my evening/nighttime girth work sessions? I will take the SiliRing off to sleep, and I'll be wearing the SiliSleeve all day starting right after my morning length session.

40 minutes (average time for cells' gap void to flag duplication processes) to 60 minutes (optimal time for the initial cell wall initial repairs). Long, the better, but only if you're comfortable.

2. Should I be 100% erect for erect jelqs?

Only if you can. If you can't, minimum of 80% erected volume. Meaning, you should achieve at 80% of the erected blood volume if you even if you're at flaccid state while jelqing. erect jelqing does help to strengthen the micro valves in the veins if it's done right.

3. How erect should I be for squash jelqs?

You don't have to be. As long as you can achieve between 75% to 100% of the blood volume when you're erected. You're using the blood volume to act as compression and expansion through the process of ballooning. SSJ is about focused positive ballooning method using hydraulic pressure with your blood. You don't have to be erected while doing SSJ. C-jelqs, regular jelqs, or even angion method. Not so much for SSJ.

4. How do you recommend I maintain erections during girth work? I have a feeling it might be difficult because I won't be aroused, and I don't really want to use adult entertainment or dick pills to keep hard during these sessions.

During pumping, yes. During jelqing, yes. During SSJ, don't have to. if you need extra help, use a restrictive band, such as a cock ring or a medical constrictor band for blood drawing or for blood vessel detection on the arms. Just do be careful.

5. How hard do I need to squeeze for normal jelqs?

Depending on where you are in the entire PE journey. As a rookie, very lightly to moderately. As a intermediate PE-er, moderate to slightly high. As veteran, you're choking it like you're killing a python.

6. How hard do I need to squeeze for squash jelqs?

Just like #5, it's where you are in the entire journey. Start light, building up endurance. This can be anywhere between 2 to 3 months. After 3 months, increase to moderate pressure. If you have to compare, the feeling should be around 6inHg to 7inHg in the pump. Killing your manhood in the higher send is anything way up in the 8inHg towards 12inhg.

 

[DLD]

1. How long should I wear the SiliRing after my evening/nighttime girth work sessions? I will take the SiliRing off to sleep, and I'll be wearing the SiliSleeve all day starting right after my morning length session.

That sounds good. I suggest you go an hour at a time. This way you can adjust and remain tight.

2. Should I be 100% erect for erect jelqs?

I always did all erect girth work. I always start at 100 and it eventually settles into the 90 percent erect. This is where flexibility and erect strength become intertwined with each other.

3. How erect should I be for squash jelqs?

SSJ start at 100% erect and settle into the 90% area. SSJ always needs flexibility so you can squash it properly

4. How do you recommend I maintain erections during girth work? I have a feeling it might be difficult because I won't be aroused, and I don't really want to use adult entertainment or dick pills to keep hard during these sessions.

If you have a wife or a significant other take pictures of them and use that for inspiration. I am like you, I hate adult entertainment and refuse to watch it. I always used pictures of my wife or girlfriend to keep me going and it definitely works.

5. How hard do I need to squeeze for normal jelqs?

I squeeze pretty damn hard and that is my way but you may be different. You want in tight enough to get maximum blood flow to the penis. Play around to find your tolerance.

6. How hard do I need to squeeze for squash jelqs?

Tight as possible as you want heavy blood flow to have plenty of blood in the penis to see their full potential

 

[Argyle]

Thanks for the answers brothers!

Regarding #4 (staying hard enough during girth work) @oldandlively I think I'll use a looser cock ring for jelqs and SSJ if I'm having trouble staying at 80% erect or above, and use a tighter one post session to heal in that state.

@DLD I ordered some stuff from the MoS Shop. Is there a way I can expedite shipping even though I already made the order?

 

[DLD]

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Thanks for the answers brothers!

Regarding #4 (staying hard enough during girth work) @oldandlively I think I'll use a looser cock ring for jelqs and SSJ if I'm having trouble staying at 80% erect or above, and use a tighter one post session to heal in that state.

@DLD I ordered some stuff from the MoS Shop. Is there a way I can expedite shipping even though I already made the order?

No. Orders immediately get sent out daily. To be honest it is not a huge wait between the two.