Am I wearing the Phallosan correctly?

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Epac

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Hi All- when I wear the phallosan at night, after several hours it seems that my gland slips down to the lower part of the bulb. I can barely fit into the medium bulb...but I’ve been using this one because the large is too big I think. Is the phallosan still effective if the head isn’t in the bulb? The suction doesn’t really seem to do much. Also- I’m still wearing that silicone cap over my glans. Not sure how long I need to continue doing this.

Thanks for any info.
 
Wearing it through the night only needs to be at a moderate tension so whatever is most comfortable that keeps you elongated. Have you checked out our new sleeves? They may be very helpful. The quality is mind blowing! Great product, very inexpensive.
 
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I dont think it is ideal. If the head slips then the vacuum chamber will be pulling on foreskin, isnt that right? Having the sleeve pulling on the shaft skin is still distributing shear forces and stresses, however I do think that most force should be concentrated on the glans. My glans doesnt slip, even after 10 hours tonight. Still I remember times when I lost vacuum quickly, mostly within the first minutes after setting up the Phallosan. Personally I use larger vacuum chambers and suck it up until the glans has expanded - interestingly enough it wont shrink afterwards since the vacuum stays intact (this is a higher vacuum coming from the Mityvac pump).

Is the Phallo still effective when the glans slipped? Technically if you sense there is still tension on the shaft then it should be working. But the efficiency is definetly not at its maximum. For beginners however I think its good that these things happen because as I remember in the early days it happened quickly that the glans took on white surface color or the foreskin was bloated due to fluid gathering there.

But the reason why all of this is happening is most likely a suction issue. Either you have a tiny hole in the sleeve (always careful when rolling the thing) or the combination protection cap, chamber hasnt been worked out yet. I would continue experimenting a bit, usually it just needs some experience to find the error.
 
Chaoskampf said:
I dont think it is ideal. If the head slips then the vacuum chamber will be pulling on foreskin, isnt that right? Having the sleeve pulling on the shaft skin is still distributing shear forces and stresses, however I do think that most force should be concentrated on the glans. My glans doesnt slip, even after 10 hours tonight. Still I remember times when I lost vacuum quickly, mostly within the first minutes after setting up the Phallosan. Personally I use larger vacuum chambers and suck it up until the glans has expanded - interestingly enough it wont shrink afterwards since the vacuum stays intact (this is a higher vacuum coming from the Mityvac pump).

Is the Phallo still effective when the glans slipped? Technically if you sense there is still tension on the shaft then it should be working. But the efficiency is definetly not at its maximum. For beginners however I think its good that these things happen because as I remember in the early days it happened quickly that the glans took on white surface color or the foreskin was bloated due to fluid gathering there.

But the reason why all of this is happening is most likely a suction issue. Either you have a tiny hole in the sleeve (always careful when rolling the thing) or the combination protection cap, chamber hasnt been worked out yet. I would continue experimenting a bit, usually it just needs some experience to find the error.
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On another note how are you getting on Chaoskamph? You seem to have been really consistent with the phallosan!Many hours logged in now?
I myself have been doing bundled blasters (A stretch) 30 min's daily at least. Funny thing is I'm so busy yet this routine seems to be yielding gains visually so far compared to others when I had more time which is nice ha.
 
ok thanks. This is good info. Another question- is one always supposed to wear the silicone hat over the glans when using the phallosan, or is it just for the first few times you use it. I think I read somewhere that you can eventually wear the deice without the glans cap but I’m not sure. They only give you one or two with the kit. Seems really tight and not sure if that’s always supposed to be worn or not.
 
Epac said:
ok thanks. This is good info. Another question- is one always supposed to wear the silicone hat over the glans when using the phallosan, or is it just for the first few times you use it. I think I read somewhere that you can eventually wear the deice without the glans cap but I’m not sure. They only give you one or two with the kit. Seems really tight and not sure if that’s always supposed to be worn or not.
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I would continue to use it as it does give protection that otherwise you would not have. I always stay on the safe side of these things especially when it’s such a simple thing to do to avoid injury.
 
IamSpartacus said:
On another note how are you getting on Chaoskamph? You seem to have been really consistent with the phallosan!Many hours logged in now?
I myself have been doing bundled blasters (A stretch) 30 min's daily at least. Funny thing is I'm so busy yet this routine seems to be yielding gains visually so far compared to others when I had more time which is nice ha.
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Bought the Phallosan in April 2017 I believe. But as an overnight stretcher I used it the last 10 days. I remember using it at the gym and even at school. But nowadays I don't want to walk around with the device attached because you can't use an urinal (I prefer sitting anyway but people notice if you always go to the cabins and that is already a bit suspicious). Another thing is that while sitting in a meeting I am a bit limited in range of motion and I don't want to worry about the device. Can't say a lot about gains but in combination with LG Hanger and Pumping I gained about a cm = 0.4" since November 2018. From the Phallosan study it can be derived that the shorter and thinner you start, the more you will gain. Actually people above 18 cm length = 7" wouldn't gain anymore. There is an exponential decrease of gains with starting length.
 
Epac said:
ok thanks. This is good info. Another question- is one always supposed to wear the silicone hat over the glans when using the phallosan, or is it just for the first few times you use it. I think I read somewhere that you can eventually wear the deice without the glans cap but I’m not sure. They only give you one or two with the kit. Seems really tight and not sure if that’s always supposed to be worn or not.
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Phallosan recommends to use the protection cap within the first weeks of being introduced to Phallosan. Afterwards you can try if it works without. My protection cap ripped after 1 week, therefore I tried without. However then there was more fluid buildup on the bottom, below of my foreskin. Nowadays I use waterproof sports tape. I pull the foreskin to the front and then keep it in position by applying two stripes of tape straight and across (a technique from LG Hanger). This works well.
 
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Anyone that’s having issues with sleeves and caps from Phallosan should stop buying them and start buying them from us. Our sleeves in caps are 10 times better than anything anyone is selling.
 
Epac said:
Hey thanks for this suggestion. I got my SiliSleeves in the mail and the Phallosan works 10 times better with the MOS sleeves.
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What an incredible news! I’m so proud of the brotherhood and all the good things happening lately. We are truly blessed. It took us a year and a half to create the sleeves but it was so worth it. When we finally had control of everything we were able to get the best possible product on the market. And who else more qualified to create equipment but the brotherhood? This is going to be a good year and if things go as I think it will we will have other awesome products on the horizon.
 
Chaoskampf said:
I dont think it is ideal. If the head slips then the vacuum chamber will be pulling on foreskin, isnt that right? Having the sleeve pulling on the shaft skin is still distributing shear forces and stresses, however I do think that most force should be concentrated on the glans. My glans doesnt slip, even after 10 hours tonight. Still I remember times when I lost vacuum quickly, mostly within the first minutes after setting up the Phallosan. Personally I use larger vacuum chambers and suck it up until the glans has expanded - interestingly enough it wont shrink afterwards since the vacuum stays intact (this is a higher vacuum coming from the Mityvac pump).

Is the Phallo still effective when the glans slipped? Technically if you sense there is still tension on the shaft then it should be working. But the efficiency is definetly not at its maximum. For beginners however I think its good that these things happen because as I remember in the early days it happened quickly that the glans took on white surface color or the foreskin was bloated due to fluid gathering there.

But the reason why all of this is happening is most likely a suction issue. Either you have a tiny hole in the sleeve (always careful when rolling the thing) or the combination protection cap, chamber hasnt been worked out yet. I would continue experimenting a bit, usually it just needs some experience to find the error.
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How are you achieving a greater vacuum? Does the mytivac attach to the top of the phallosan bell like their pump suction does?
 
Chaoskampf said:
Phallosan recommends to use the protection cap within the first weeks of being introduced to Phallosan. Afterwards you can try if it works without. My protection cap ripped after 1 week, therefore I tried without. However then there was more fluid buildup on the bottom, below of my foreskin. Nowadays I use waterproof sports tape. I pull the foreskin to the front and then keep it in position by applying two stripes of tape straight and across (a technique from LG Hanger). This works well.
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I had similar issues with the PF. I found that one of the best ways to almost completely eliminate fluid build up was to take a Silicap, cut the end off it (so it effectively became a short sleeve) and put this on just under the glans. Then roll your PF sleeve down over this sleeve (or you could use a normal Silisleeve on place of the PF sleeve). It not only prevented fluid buildup, but also provided a much better seal and allows one to us the PF without having to shave (which I find to be a pain in the ass).
 
darb said:
I had similar issues with the PF. I found that one of the best ways to almost completely eliminate fluid build up was to take a Silicap, cut the end off it (so it effectively became a short sleeve) and put this on just under the glans. Then roll your PF sleeve down over this sleeve (or you could use a normal Silisleeve on place of the PF sleeve). It not only prevented fluid buildup, but also provided a much better seal and allows one to us the PF without having to shave (which I find to be a pain in the ass).
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Sounds good for PF users.
 
bioshock said:
Custom build? That sounds awesome? Did you use a 3D printer? I’d love to have something that can create and maintain better suction.
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3D printer using a CAD model made by myself. I needed a larger size than the XL and it is too difficult to reverse engineer the Phallosan pump attachment. That being said I would have been happy to keep the Original minipump provided by Phallosan because it is better suited for out of the house stretching.
 
DLD said:
Sounds good for PF users.
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Yeh, but there's still some down sides to using the PF so I'm saving for a Silistretcher (and more sleeves). I'll update my thread on using the PF but have had a few more minor issues. Mainly skin peeling on the glans when only using low to moderate pressure (medium bell) and low to moderate belt tension. Not sure if this means the potential for another blister. Can't use the PF cap as it's too thick and I've cut the end out of the only Silicap I have (at the moment). The whole thing is driving me nuts.
 
The PhalloGenetics was an awesome modification!
 
darb said:
Yeh, but there's still some down sides to using the PF so I'm saving for a Silistretcher (and more sleeves). I'll update my thread on using the PF but have had a few more minor issues. Mainly skin peeling on the glans when only using low to moderate pressure (medium bell) and low to moderate belt tension. Not sure if this means the potential for another blister. Can't use the PF cap as it's too thick and I've cut the end out of the only Silicap I have (at the moment). The whole thing is driving me nuts.
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Many people don't use the protection cap. With foreskin you can pull it to the front and then fix it in place with two stripes of waterproof tape (Nexcare, Curad or Asian import).
 
Chaoskampf said:
Many people don't use the protection cap. With foreskin you can pull it to the front and then fix it in place with two stripes of waterproof tape (Nexcare, Curad or Asian import).
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Yeh, I'm actually cut so that's not an option for me. Good idea though brother. I can't use the protection caps in their normal intended way. I find them too uncomfortable and too restrictive. That's why I modified them to suit my comfort and needs. Seems to be working well so far.

I've switched creams (see my progress post in the PF thread). I think I've managed to stop the skin peel issues.
 
darb said:
Yeh, I'm actually cut so that's not an option for me. Good idea though brother. I can't use the protection caps in their normal intended way. I find them too uncomfortable and too restrictive. That's why I modified them to suit my comfort and needs. Seems to be working well so far.

I've switched creams (see my progress post in the PF thread). I think I've managed to stop the skin peel issues.
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Have you tried hydrocortisone after each session? This will keep all skin issues at bay.
 
DLD said:
Have you tried hydrocortisone after each session? This will keep all skin issues at bay.
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Hello DLD. No I haven't tried that solution, but the cream I'm using seems to be doing the trick (so far).

Is Hydrocortisone a steroid based cream? I think it might be as I'm sure cortisone is a steroid. Is that the best thing to be using on your most prized possession? Are there any negative (or positive) side effects? Not sure about in my country, but is it over the counter or by prescription is your country?

I once read that steroid injections can help to breakup scar tissue (research because of the scarring/pain from my inguinal heria repair), but, at the same time, weaken other tissues surrounding the same scar tissue. The surgeon recommended not to have steriod injections as it might stuff up the repair. He told me that when he was younger he injured his bicep and it was taking a long time to heal. Foolishly he decided to give himself a steroid injection/s and while things seem to then heal quickly, when he next used his bicep for a serious lift/load his tendon/ligaments snapped and he totally stuffed his bicep (and even surgically it couldn't be repaired).

Would the cream have a similar effect or is the skin unable to absorb the steroid? Would the cream work to loosen very tight ligaments (but on a much smaller scale than an injection)? I have very tight and stubborn ligs and have tremendous trouble gaining length (and basically gaining at all).

Have you or anyone used hydrocortisone on/near ligs and noticed and gains shortly thereafter?

This is very interesting DLD. Thanks for bringing it up. Interested to hear from others surrounding this concept.
 
The Hydrocortisone we sell is not prescription strength, it is .01% there is no steroid issue due to how weak it is. Prescription strength is very potent and should never be used on your penis. Positive side effects of a weaker version is it takes care of all surface skin issues. Be on the skin and a cut or open wound bacitracin would be the ointment you would want to use.
 
DLD said:
The Hydrocortisone we sell is not prescription strength, it is .01% there is no steroid issue due to how weak it is. Prescription strength is very potent and should never be used on your penis. Positive side effects of a weaker version is it takes care of all surface skin issues. Be on the skin and a cut or open wound bacitracin would be the ointment you would want to use.
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Ok thanks for the reply and clarification DLD. I didn't realise you sold that type of thing. Good to know. Thanks brother.
 
darb said:
Ok thanks for the reply and clarification DLD. I didn't realise you sold that type of thing. Good to know. Thanks brother.
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Never a problem my brother
 
Im waking up with a small edema in glans when i sleep with my fake Phallosan, or with my vacuum bell waist. And then this little small bubble appears in the glans, i dont know what it is, but looks like an air bubble, did this happen to anyone else? Any tip or solution to avoid this kind of stuff?
 
Be sure that you squeeze every bit of blood out of your head before you strap in. Also, if blistering appears do not try to poke or pop them or you will end up with scarring which can lead to desensitization.
 
DLD said:
Be sure that you squeeze every bit of blood out of your head before you strap in. Also, if blistering appears do not try to poke or pop them or you will end up with scarring which can lead to desensitization.
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Hmm, i didnt know about that. So i just should strap the penis in the most unerected state possible?

How this bubble disappear? With the time? Should i stop bathmate, manual exercises and using extender until this disappear?
 
JorgeJesus said:
Hmm, i didnt know about that. So i just should strap the penis in the most unerected state possible?

How this bubble disappear? With the time? Should i stop bathmate, manual exercises and using extender until this disappear?
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I would stay away from girth or erect work while you have a blister. You can stick with flaccid work as long as it doesn’t interfere with the blister. Allow the blister to pop on its own. You can speed this process by using a hot compress. But never ever squeeze or pop a blister or you’ll end up with a scar.
 
DLD said:
I would stay away from girth or erect work while you have a blister. You can stick with flaccid work as long as it doesn’t interfere with the blister. Allow the blister to pop on its own. You can speed this process by using a hot compress. But never ever squeeze or pop a blister or you’ll end up with a scar.
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... Oh Shit.
So no Bathmate ?
Only manual stretching?
 
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