3 years doing PE: results (& a couple of questions!)

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Rob35

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Hi guys -

Hope you're all well (and getting results!). I've been lurking on these forums for quite a while, so just thought I'd finally post/share my experiences. I've been doing PE for around 3 years now... these are my stats:

Start: BPEL 6.7" MSEG 4.8" BPFL 5.2" MSFG 3.9" BPSPL 6.9"

Now: BPEL 8.3" MSEG 5.5" BPFL 6.2" MSFG 4.5" BPSPL 8.8"

Original Goal: BPEL 8.0" MSEG 5.5"
New Goal: BPEL 9.0" MSEG 6.0"

My current routine is:

3-4 hours a day wearing an extender (at a VERY tight stretch!)
45-60 minutes a day double-clamping
10-15 minutes manual stretching/jelquing (twice a day)
4-5 days on, 2 days off

Anyway... would you consider these results good/bad/average? Also, I was wondering how long you you guys have been doing PE for? I'm currently around my original goal... but now I'd love to get to 9.0"! 🤦‍♂️ (...is it just a case of no matter what size you are, you always want to get bigger?).

And what one thing/exercise do you think is best for gaining girth - Clamping? Pumping? Bundled stretches? (...something else?). I'd really like to get to around 6".

Any info/advice would be great 👍.

Thanks
 
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Welcome to MOS. Congrats on your gains. Your gains are slow for that 3 years period. Within a year, you should gain nothing less than 2.5 inches in 12 months.

Now you are 8.3 inches, you need to attack the penis differently. Do something that you have not been doing before. Switch to doing bundled stretches with the length master. But the length master brother.

You will get to your girth goal faster if you do 5x5x3 pumping routine. Buy the mityvac pump. A combination of Slow squash jelq and pumping will bring all of your needed girth gains.
 
"Nothing less than 2.5" in 12 months"... surely that can't be correct?! 😧 (at least 7.5" in 3 years?). It sounds very unrealistic, if you don't mind me saying... I've read a lot of PE journals/posts etc. and half an inch per-year gain seems to be the norm/realistic goal 🤔. (I think there'd be loads of guys with 10"+ cocks if the gains were 2.5" in a year?).

Anyway, thanks for your message and advice... I hope this reply doesn't sound rude - I'm just... shocked, lol. 🥴
 
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Rob, Congrats on this huge goal you have already reached!
I'm at 1/2 inch growth for 1 year.
When you read my posts, I'm a big water pump guy. I'm in my 40's and that not only is getting me great girth but the best EQ of my life. I would read a lot on this forum and learn about 5 x 5 x 3 and also Red light therapy.
 
Rob35 said:
"Nothing less than 2.5" in 12 months"... surely that can't be correct?! 😧 (at least 7.5" in 3 years?). It sounds very unrealistic, if you don't mind me saying... I've read a lot of PE journals/posts etc. and half an inch per-year gain seems to be the norm/realistic goal 🤔. (I think there'd be loads of guys with 10"+ cocks if the gains were 2.5" in a year?).

Anyway, thanks for your message and advice... I hope this reply doesn't sound rude - I'm just... shocked, lol. 🥴
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I gained over 3 Inches in penile erected length within 1 year of stretching (also gained a lot of flaccid length), so this progression is very realistic.

But you need to go hard in order to get it. This is possible with bundled stretches behind the cheeks and LengthMaster 3. You need to increase the intensity in a progressive way, and it's far from easy. It just depends on how fast you want your gains and what programming you are using, and what your life allows. For me it would not have been possible if I didn't live alone, or had no girlfriend or wife.

@Rob35 I think you have spent your time on places where they are content with slow gains.
Nothing wrong with slower gains, but personally I hate wasting time.
 
@Rob35 the main veterans here all gave you the rundown. I can say you've reached a great BPEL. My suggestion, and mine alone, focus on girth, to reach that 6.2in. Why? Tissue elongation priming for length work later and filling the lady of yours to the limit before the length work. The length you have now will fulfill every know positions in the books unless the lady has too much paddings all around. The girth will induce the orgasms into a chain, and the chain will induce climaxes.

Vac system (Bathmate or MityVac) in the morning in a 3x3x3 rather than a 5x5x3 routine can work in to our favor. This minimize fluid buildup. When you can, wear an ADS (SiliStretcher) in a low tension (1.5lbs to 2lbs) just to keep the penile body elongated, and a cock ring to keep those chambers constantly expanded at 70% during healing. Do wear a short penis sleeve 80% of the pre pump erected girth at the base before putting on the cock ring at the base for further constriction. This is more for comforts than for blood trapping. NO CLAMPING!

At night, 3x3x3 again to ensure additional expansion can take place. Keep the new expansion for 90 minutes with trapped volume as you cycle in the blood with stimulation. Rest after. No more on blood trapping. Allow the cellular bodies to activate regenerative responses during rest phase since you already stressed the penis all day.

I accelerated my girth growth from this method. We can really go into details later if you like. Something to think about.
 
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@Rob35 the main veterans here all gave you the rundown. I can say you've reached a great BPEL. My suggestion, and mine alone, focus on girth, to reach that 6.2in. Why? Tissue elongation priming for length work later and filling the lady of yours to the limit before the length work. The length you have now will fulfill every know positions in the books unless the lady has too much paddings all around. The girth will induce the orgasms into a chain, and the chain will induce climaxes.

Vac system (Bathmate or MityVac) in the morning in a 3x3x3 rather than a 5x5x3 routine can work in to our favor. This minimize fluid buildup. When you can, wear an ADS (SiliStretcher) in a low tension (1.5lbs to 2lbs) just to keep the penile body elongated, and a cock ring to keep those chambers constantly expanded at 70% during healing. Do wear a short penis sleeve 80% of the pre pump erected girth at the base before putting on the cock ring at the base for further constriction. This is more for comforts than for blood trapping. NO CLAMPING!
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Hey - thanks for your message/advice.

Why no clamping though? I would think it to be very beneficial... especially after pumping (ie. better than a cock ring)?
 
Rob35 said:
Hey - thanks for your message/advice.

Why no clamping though? I would think it to be very beneficial... especially after pumping (ie. better than a cock ring)?
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There's a different between clamping vs constriction or restrictive blood flow. Clamping performs a kink to both sides of the penis, literally crushing the blood vessels and capillaries, and potentially damage nerve bundles without knowing. Those who clamped in the past learned not to use the clamps as they are but to modify with softer cushions using foam rubbers and gel to prevent the mentioned from damages.

Unlike the clamps, the cock rings made of silicone, or even penis sleeves made of silicone, allow the adaption to the penile base and the flexibility to allow blood to cycle at 70% and allow nerve signals without the kinking. This also provides you the opportunity to perform kegel exercise to program the mind to get full erections at the new expanded state. Clamping don't allow that.
 
oldandlively said:
There's a different between clamping vs constriction or restrictive blood flow. Clamping performs a kink to both sides of the penis, literally crushing the blood vessels and capillaries, and potentially damage nerve bundles without knowing. Those who clamped in the past learned not to use the clamps as they are but to modify with softer cushions using foam rubbers and gel to prevent the mentioned from damages.
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Yeah, I have 2 rubber cushions both sides of mine.
 
Rob35 said:
Why no clamping though?
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Members have come and cry on the forums because they permanently inured their penis with clamping. Some members lost the ability to get an healthy erection.

Clamping is an old technology that give you a higher risk for strokes and restriction of blood circulation in your heart, and lungs.
What you do now will impact you when you get older, do not risk your life just for PE.
What I'm talking about is called: Deep Vain Thrombosis. Blood clots get stuck deep inside your veins and can dislodge, maybe 10 years from now and then you are really fucked...there is no redo once you introduce these blood clots into your bloodstream.
 
oldandlively said:
There's a different between clamping vs constriction or restrictive blood flow. Clamping performs a kink to both sides of the penis, literally crushing the blood vessels and capillaries, and potentially damage nerve bundles without knowing. Those who clamped in the past learned not to use the clamps as they are but to modify with softer cushions using foam rubbers and gel to prevent the mentioned from damages.

Unlike the clamps, the cock rings made of silicone, or even penis sleeves made of silicone, allow the adaption to the penile base and the flexibility to allow blood to cycle at 70% and allow nerve signals without the kinking. This also provides you the opportunity to perform kegel exercise to program the mind to get full erections at the new expanded state. Clamping don't allow that.
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Using the slow squash jelq is a great example 👍
 
Soooo.... I did some pumping yesterday (using a Hydromax Bathmate) and the 5 5 3 routine. First time in ages. Also used a cock ring for 30 minutes afterwards.

But I think I'm doing something wrong... this morning I woke up and my foreskin has REALLY ballooned/swelled up... like a freaking golf ball, lol 😬. (I remember this happened last time I used it too).

So, what am I doing wrong... am I pumping too much/with too much pressure?

Thanks.
 
Rob35 said:
Soooo.... I did some pumping yesterday (using a Hydromax Bathmate) and the 5 5 3 routine. First time in ages. Also used a cock ring for 30 minutes afterwards.

But I think I'm doing something wrong... this morning I woke up and my foreskin has REALLY ballooned/swelled up... like a freaking golf ball, lol 😬. (I remember this happened last time I used it too).

So, what am I doing wrong... am I pumping too much/with too much pressure?

Thanks.
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Don't know. It is important to go in with a full erection when you are pumping, or at least 80% erection.
Sounds like fluid retention. Do downward Jelq's between sets in order to reduce it during session.

But I really don't know. Suddenly waking up with fluid retention. That is something I have never experienced.
Are your penis free during sleep?
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
But I really don't know. Suddenly waking up with fluid retention. That is something I have never experienced.
Are your penis free during sleep?
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Correct, sir. I had a cock ring on for about half an hour afterwards and then went to bed. My foreskin was "plump" (if you know what I mean), but nothing out of the ordinary. This morning though, it was huge and all out of shape... quite worrying(!).
 
Rob35 said:
Correct, sir. I had a cock ring on for about half an hour afterwards and then went to bed. My foreskin was "plump" (if you know what I mean), but nothing out of the ordinary. This morning though, it was huge and all out of shape... quite worrying(!).
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Sounds like your penis is not used to pumping?
As I said, downward Jelq's will help you with fluid retention.
 
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Maybe... I haven't done it in about a year (because the same thing happened before!). It wasn't painful or uncomfortable at all though. Puts me off pumping a bit 🥴.
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This can be the reason.

When I started pumping again with Bathmate, my fluid retention was kinda bad, but after some time my tissue adjusted. I had the same happening with bundled stretches with LengthMaster 3.

But if I do not do downward Jelq's the fluid retention gets to much between sets and after session.
 
Rob35 said:
Soooo.... I did some pumping yesterday (using a Hydromax Bathmate) and the 5 5 3 routine. First time in ages. Also used a cock ring for 30 minutes afterwards.

But I think I'm doing something wrong... this morning I woke up and my foreskin has REALLY ballooned/swelled up... like a freaking golf ball, lol 😬. (I remember this happened last time I used it too).

So, what am I doing wrong... am I pumping too much/with too much pressure?

Thanks.
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Yep, SIM pointed out that you got fluid retention issue. It's very common when you restart your pumping activities. It happened to all of us. Erection at 80% or greater is required. This is to expand at optimal condition, on top of preventing fluid retention. Wearing the ring is fine, but my suggestion is to stimulate to get into full erection if and when possible. This is to mitigate fluid build up. The ring alone will only trap fluid if you don't expand your corpus cavernosa to displace the fluid from building up in the skin.

Curious, does the fluid also build up after pumping? If so, crank down the pressure. If not, and you only get the fluid after wearing the ring, downward jelq as SIM pointed out.
 
Bathmate per HINK is 13Hg -16Hg. So right off the bat, you are going from Zero to over 100. This time around, think about mittyvac with gauge.

If you had left the cock ring on for more than 3 hours I could see the golf ball size and it has happened to me, but not with just 30 min.

5 x 5 x 3 seems a bit strong for you, lower time and pressure
 
Hink only provided estimated values. My brothers and I did the pressure test for the HydroXtreme. Yes, it's 16.3 inHg at 100% baffles gaiter compression. That's about 15 pumps in. It literally feels like your penis is being sucked into the cylinder like the cylinder eats you up. At 10 inHg, there is a strong suction against your base. Imagine if you out will, someone presses their base of the palm against the pelvic bone, while sucking on you like they want a hicky mark on the entire penis.

Always good to have a gauge, or a gauge mod.
 
oldandlively said:
@Rob35 the main veterans here all gave you the rundown. I can say you've reached a great BPEL. My suggestion, and mine alone, focus on girth, to reach that 6.2in. Why? Tissue elongation priming for length work later and filling the lady of yours to the limit before the length work. The length you have now will fulfill every know positions in the books unless the lady has too much paddings all around. The girth will induce the orgasms into a chain, and the chain will induce climaxes.

Vac system (Bathmate or MityVac) in the morning in a 3x3x3 rather than a 5x5x3 routine can work in to our favor. This minimize fluid buildup. When you can, wear an ADS (SiliStretcher) in a low tension (1.5lbs to 2lbs) just to keep the penile body elongated, and a cock ring to keep those chambers constantly expanded at 70% during healing. Do wear a short penis sleeve 80% of the pre pump erected girth at the base before putting on the cock ring at the base for further constriction. This is more for comforts than for blood trapping. NO CLAMPING!

At night, 3x3x3 again to ensure additional expansion can take place. Keep the new expansion for 90 minutes with trapped volume as you cycle in the blood with stimulation. Rest after. No more on blood trapping. Allow the cellular bodies to activate regenerative responses during rest phase since you already stressed the penis all day.

I accelerated my girth growth from this method. We can really go into details later if you like. Something to think about.
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So you did 3x3x3 twice a day, that sounds interesting and I would definitely like to hear a bit more if you are inclined to share. How much time between sessions? How many days a week for this did you do? Did you use use the same type of pump intensity progression from set 1 to 2 to 3, like you have advised in other posts?
 
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So you did 3x3x3 twice a day, that sounds interesting and I would definitely like to hear a bit more if you are inclined to share. How much time between sessions? How many days a week for this did you do? Did you use use the same type of pump intensity progression from set 1 to 2 to 3, like you have advised in other posts?
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I would sometimes do the 5x5x3 3 times a day. I guess it depends on what your body can handle
 
DLD said:
I would sometimes do the 5x5x3 3 times a day. I guess it depends on what your body can handle
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Exactly just that DLD. 5x5x3 at 3 times a day is way too extreme for anyone who are not used to it. I can barely take on 5x5x3 at 2 times a day with ADS on top. Crazy fatigue.
7o9 said:
So you did 3x3x3 twice a day, that sounds interesting and I would definitely like to hear a bit more if you are inclined to share. How much time between sessions? How many days a week for this did you do? Did you use use the same type of pump intensity progression from set 1 to 2 to 3, like you have advised in other posts?
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As for why less time and more session, it's quite simple. Early morning, after rest phases where cellular regenerative processes slows down to divert energy to higher functions, lower stress points will do more good than higher one time stress point at night. Why? By stressing the cellular bodies once the in the morning, on top of wearing a cock ring to continually keep expandin to maintain expanded state, the energy dedicated to higher functions don't have to work at hard diverting to cellular regenerative processes. Those who suffered traumas and required recovery tend to be sluggish all day. Why? The body diverted too much energy elsewhere, causing lack of energy to provide to the rest of the body functions.

Rather than 3 sessions a day, one session in the morning, then the ADS/expansive session for 5 to 10 minutes each hour, is more than enough to trigger the body to produce low energy repair to initiate vesicle trafficking, exocytosis, and endocytosis for cellular membrane repair, while maintaining the high output of energy to higher body functions without disruption. Extreme trauma under 5x5x3 will divert too much higher function energy to compensate for sudden cellular body breakdown.

3x3x3 at lower vacuum pressure sufficient in stressing and breaking small amount of cell walls, and the erected state will further break down the cell walls continually at small incrementation for continual low energy repairs. One more session at night, either be 3x3x3 or 5x5x3 will force the body to shut other higher functions down (while you're sleep) to fully focus on repairs.

We can even go into rDNA and cell cycles with key hormone production during cellular regenerative processes if you want. But it will be as boring as reading a pamphlets on how pain dries.
 
That's why I say listen to your body and do what is possible
 
DLD said:
That's why I say listen to your body and do what is possible
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Funny how you said that. When our body tells us to stop, it has a lower safety limit in mind. But our bodies also have upper safety limits as well before the critical limits. I believe he's at the lower safety limit that his body is screaming at him. This is why he needs to test his baseline and do a dynamic pressure test. 4 to 5 inHG is his lower limit. Test the upper limit baseline by pumping to 6 inHg, and slowly release back to 5 inHg in a 30 second intervals. This will reproduce a body conditioning response to create upper and lower baseline limits. This was the method taught to me by the olden brother with the python penis. I constantly test my limits every 2 to 3 weeks now. I believe he followed your suggestions way back when.
 
oldandlively said:
Funny how you said that. When our body tells us to stop, it has a lower safety limit in mind. But our bodies also have upper safety limits as well before the critical limits. I believe he's at the lower safety limit that his body is screaming at him. This is why he needs to test his baseline and do a dynamic pressure test. 4 to 5 inHG is his lower limit. Test the upper limit baseline by pumping to 6 inHg, and slowly release back to 5 inHg in a 30 second intervals. This will reproduce a body conditioning response to create upper and lower baseline limits. This was the method taught to me by the olden brother with the python penis. I constantly test my limits every 2 to 3 weeks now. I believe he followed your suggestions way back when.
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Good points
 
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