My PE Journey

Hiaslayer · Mar 20, 2026

Hi Guys,

I thought I’d make a post for accountability purposes but also as a record keeping log.

About 6months ago I bought the BM and started pumping sporadically. Since early Feb 2026 I’ve been training more regularly and for a month now I started to do manual exercises and bought the Mityvac, too.

My original measurements are
2nd of Feb: BPEL 17.0cm; EG 14.0cm

Progress:
20th of March: BPEL 17.4cm; EG 14.2cm

I’m training 6 days on with one rest day.

My routine is a little bit pumping in the morning with the BM just to get the blood flowing but my proper session is after work in the afternoon.

I do some light DBS (540) for a few minutes and then the normal stretching newbie routine. Over time I’ll increase the intensity of the bundled stretches and will include BC-BS. I want to be careful though and approach it slowly. In a few months I might get the length master but first I want to get as far as possible just with manual stretching.

Afterwards I pump with the BM at full pressure until I achieve a full pump in my penis. Time in the BM about 10x30-60s. I do some BM stretches during my last set and try to hold the stretch for 60s. I stop pumping before an Edema forms.
Then I go into the MV and pump slowly to -6inHg. Due to the BM Pump I fill out the cylinder and therefore target length in the MV.

So far I’m fairly consistent and 4mm growth in 1.5months is great

So far so good

oldandlively · Mar 20, 2026

Since you're just starting out, 1.5 months with 0.4cm growth is freaking awesome. That's actually above the average growth level. Slowly, and I mean VERY SLOWLY, increase your intensity as you progress. Do not accelerate too quickly. Try a 4-on, 1 off approach for a month as well, when you decide to increase your intensity up a bit. That little extra rest will do you much greater good.

If you see a faster growth in this period, don't go crazy or overzealous on your routines, but simply increase just a tiny bit more on intensity going forward for the next two months. The key is consistently pushing similar intensities, with an additional range of +10% to +15%. Too fast and too soon can cause the body to reject and then accept new stress loads, slowing things down very quickly.

Ren71 · Mar 21, 2026

Dude, 17cm BPEL is a great place to start! (See my signature as to why I say that LOL).

Definitely take oldandlively's advice above. It's about building up conditioning and training similar to weight lifting.

Hiaslayer · Mar 22, 2026

I appreciate it guys!

I’m not a complete newbie ((experience wise). Back in 2013 I did some PE but these gains obviously disappeared completely. I know a lot of exercises. I’m now fully dedicated. My goal is 8x6 (NBP). I’m shooting for the stars here but one needs to dream big

I think If I stay consistent I can definitely achieve 8x6 BP.

The ultimate goal is really when I sleep with a new girl and whip it out that she looks at it in shock. I’m already at a stage with some girls that I cannot pump in the BM pre sex as I can’t fit it in anymore. I want to get an objectively big dick and with 8x6 that’s definitely the case.

I also do some jelquing in the morning btw when I wake up just for good measures. I like the 4on1off idea. I will do that as I definitely feel the workouts after a few days.

Hiaslayer · Apr 3, 2026

Hey guys, I started to bundled stretches very carefully. 360 with light stretching but I routinely do now 540 and even btc. I also did 720 but that’s at a push and I only did this once. I do bundles before my normal stretches and pumping/girth work.
Unfortunately I got a blister on my glands (going into the BM flaccid and then pumping at high pressure caused this.) from which I’m still recovering and stopped girth work but I started using the BM again carefully. I was surprised that I never got a blister from entering it errect but then when going in flaccid at highnpressure, boom, blister.

Anyway, I’m reading a lot about the Lengthmaster and I am wondering why length gains can be achieved so fast with it? Is it because you can apply a stronger pull? I’m pulling quiet strong during the manual stretches and wouldn’t feel comfortable pulling stronger but maybe that’s actually needed to gain.

Any thoughts?

Cheers
Matt

oldandlively · Apr 5, 2026

Hiaslayer said:
Hey guys, I started to bundled stretches very carefully. 360 with light stretching but I routinely do now 540 and even btc. I also did 720 but that’s at a push and I only did this once. I do bundles before my normal stretches and pumping/girth work.

Wow. Pushing 720 strapping at the base of the glans?

Hiaslayer said:
Unfortunately I got a blister on my glands (going into the BM flaccid and then pumping at high pressure caused this.) from which I’m still recovering and stopped girth work but I started using the BM again carefully. I was surprised that I never got a blister from entering it errect but then when going in flaccid at highnpressure, boom, blister.

Yep. That's the common blister-maker.

Hiaslayer said:
Anyway, I’m reading a lot about the Lengthmaster and I am wondering why length gains can be achieved so fast with it? Is it because you can apply a stronger pull? I’m pulling quiet strong during the manual stretches and wouldn’t feel comfortable pulling stronger but maybe that’s actually needed to gain.

Yes. The LM allows you to exert a ridiculous amount of traction tension/load during the pulls. Adding the bundled/twisting to the element, you're breaking more than just the lateral or longitudinal mesh tissues, one at a time. You're breaking both at the same time.

Hiaslayer said:
Any thoughts?

For the pumping, ease up on the high pressures. Stay in the high only for a very 10 to 20 second brief moment. Say in the moderate and low more often. Low is around -5 to -6 inHg. Moderate starts at 6 to -7 inHg. High starts at -8 to -10inHg. Anything more than that, you're entering blister zone. Even at -7 inHg can cause blisters after your glans undergoes punishment from the heavy pulling with the LM.

Hiaslayer · Apr 6, 2026

oldandlively said:
Wow. Pushing 720 strapping at the base of the glans?

No, that’s throughout the whole shaft. That was one of the questions I have in my LM thread. Once it’s clamped into the LM surely I’m restricted in terms of where I can twist. But Huge-Girth said to anyway only start with 360 first once I get the LM in about 3 weeks and until then I keep working it with 360-540

H

Thread 'Help me understand the Lengthmaster'

Apr 5, 2026

Hi,

So I decided to get the Lengthmaster to maximise length gains. As it is shipping to Europe I will spend the next 3-4weeks doing manual stretching exercises and then fully switch to LM work.

I’ve watched some of the videos which are very helpful but some questions remain:
- do you wrap your penis before clamping it into the device? I bought a sili sleeve for post workout and a Thera band and another penis wrap. I suppose that would be suffice?
- in the video the whole penis shaft is clamped into the LM, which means only the base can be twisted for bundles as the shaft is fixed between...

oldandlively said:
Yep. That's the common blister-maker.

Yes. The LM allows you to exert a ridiculous amount of traction tension/load during the pulls. Adding the bundled/twisting to the element, you're breaking more than just the lateral or longitudinal mesh tissues, one at a time. You're breaking both at the same time.

For the pumping, ease up on the high pressures. Stay in the high only for a very 10 to 20 second brief moment. Say in the moderate and low more often. Low is around -5 to -6 inHg. Moderate starts at 6 to -7 inHg. High starts at -8 to -10inHg. Anything more than that, you're entering blister zone. Even at -7 inHg can cause blisters after your glans undergoes punishment from the heavy pulling with the LM.

The high pressure or going in flaccid + high pressure? My penis has gotten used to my workouts over the weeks. I stopped masturbating and essentially just cum when I see my FB every 10-14 days. Even after a good length workout (bundled stretches, normal stretches from all angles) I sometimes still manage to being able to get an errection (granted, I’m on 5mg/d of tadalafil)

I started to use the Mityvac in the morning when I wake up. Enter with a full errection (100% - morning wood) and pump slowly to -7/-8 where I stay for a few seconds. I then to some SSJ and Ulis.

I’ll keep it in mind to ease up on this approach once I have the LM. I’m excited about it and can’t wait to use it.

Hiaslayer · Apr 6, 2026

oldandlively said:
Wow. Pushing 720 strapping at the base of the glans?

No, that’s throughout the whole shaft. That was one of the questions I have in my LM thread. Once it’s clamped into the LM surely I’m restricted in terms of where I can twist. But Huge-Girth said to anyway only start with 360 first once I get the LM in about 3 weeks and until then I keep working it with 360-540

H

Thread 'Help me understand the Lengthmaster'

Apr 5, 2026

Hi,

So I decided to get the Lengthmaster to maximise length gains. As it is shipping to Europe I will spend the next 3-4weeks doing manual stretching exercises and then fully switch to LM work.

I’ve watched some of the videos which are very helpful but some questions remain:
- do you wrap your penis before clamping it into the device? I bought a sili sleeve for post workout and a Thera band and another penis wrap. I suppose that would be suffice?
- in the video the whole penis shaft is clamped into the LM, which means only the base can be twisted for bundles as the shaft is fixed between...

oldandlively said:
Yep. That's the common blister-maker.

Yes. The LM allows you to exert a ridiculous amount of traction tension/load during the pulls. Adding the bundled/twisting to the element, you're breaking more than just the lateral or longitudinal mesh tissues, one at a time. You're breaking both at the same time.

For the pumping, ease up on the high pressures. Stay in the high only for a very 10 to 20 second brief moment. Say in the moderate and low more often. Low is around -5 to -6 inHg. Moderate starts at 6 to -7 inHg. High starts at -8 to -10inHg. Anything more than that, you're entering blister zone. Even at -7 inHg can cause blisters after your glans undergoes punishment from the heavy pulling with the LM.

The high pressure or going in flaccid + high pressure? My penis has gotten used to my workouts over the weeks. I stopped masturbating and essentially just cum when I see my FB every 10-14 days. Even after a good length workout (bundled stretches, normal stretches from all angles) I sometimes still manage to being able to get an errection (granted, I’m on 5mg/d of tadalafil)

I started to use the Mityvac in the morning when I wake up. Enter with a full errection (100% - morning wood) and pump slowly to -7/-8 where I stay for a few seconds. I then to some SSJ and Ulis.

I’ll keep it in mind to ease up on this approach once I have the LM. I’m excited about it and can’t wait to use it.

Hiaslayer · Apr 6, 2026

I just had a really good BM session. In the morning I did some pumping with some SSJ and Ulis and hit 18.4cm in the Mityvac at -7 for 10seconds. I still don’t fully fill out the tube apart from 0-6cm (you can see the skin pushing against the cylinder wall). There is maybe 1-2mm gap between the wall and the shaft for the shaft above 6cm. Soon I’m filling that out fully and then my pumping with the Mityvac mainly targets length which was the plan from the get go. Once I fill out the 2‘‘ tube I’m happy with my girth. 6.2‘‘ girth is criminal anyway. Well, I say this now

Throughout the day I did some stretching(bundles in all directions and also normal stretching, btc.) No real system as my privacy is compromised because my parents are visiting

I can’t wait for the wraps that I ordered from the shop so I can actually heal in a elongated state. Did some light jelquing at 20-30% EQ afterwards.

About 4h later I had the best BM session so far. I was in the bath tub and started with some bundled stretching followed by jelquing to get to 70% EQ. After about 5 sets I was at 100% EQ and had a great pumped feeling. After another 3-4 sets (I stay each time for about 20-30s in the BM) the pump was insane and for the first time I hit 21.7cm in the hydromax9. No Edema has formed either and I also had no red dots. It seems my skin is getting used to the work outs.

My blister has fully healed and there are only a very light red spots where the blisters were and it didn’t get darker with pumping.

I put a cocking on for about 3x5min and soaked in the bath tub.

Great workout guys and I’m starting to really have fun with this PE stuff!!

oldandlively · Apr 6, 2026

Hiaslayer said:
No, that’s throughout the whole shaft. That was one of the questions I have in my LM thread. Once it’s clamped into the LM surely I’m restricted in terms of where I can twist. But Huge-Girth said to anyway only start with 360 first once I get the LM in about 3 weeks and until then I keep working it with 360-540

If you can handle as much as 720 straight from the start, that's not a problem either. Normally, most brothers can't handle past 360, even some can go as high as 720 at the start. It's just a good comfort zone to slowly increase the rotation. Start slow to adjust, and start light to get used to things first. You're in good hands under his guidance.

Hiaslayer said:
The high pressure or going in flaccid + high pressure? My penis has gotten used to my workouts over the weeks. I stopped masturbating and essentially just cum when I see my FB every 10-14 days. Even after a good length workout (bundled stretches, normal stretches from all angles) I sometimes still manage to being able to get an errection (granted, I’m on 5mg/d of tadalafil)

Both.

High pressure when you're flaccid creates hotspots, or fluid buildup bumps, without realizing it. The reason is because you can't feel the pressure being built up under the tissues when it's already past the point of blister-maker.

When you're erect, you will feel every little pressure point that passes the current tissue expansion limit. It feels like something is crawling under the skin. That's when your skin layers, or the fascias, start to peel apart from each other, causing fluid to gather and build up in those air gaps. That's when the blister forms.

This is why you have to slowly increase the pressure, then release, slow increase, then release between high and moderate pressure. This is to prevent the skin layers from separating and causing those air pockets and causing blisters.

Hiaslayer said:
I started to use the Mityvac in the morning when I wake up. Enter with a full errection (100% - morning wood) and pump slowly to -7/-8 where I stay for a few seconds. I then to some SSJ and Ulis.

I’ll keep it in mind to ease up on this approach once I have the LM. I’m excited about it and can’t wait to use it.

When your skin finally heals, don't go crazy and straight to -7 or -8. Stay low at -5 to -6 to keep your blood chambers expand without forming blisters. Once your skin layers full heal, bounce between -7 and -8 every 30 seconds apart. You can even drop to -6.5 for 30 seconds, then slow up to -8 for 30 seconds, and drop. Dropping back and forth will yield better results as long as you can maintain your full erection. But that will be at least 5 weeks out until your skin layers can fully heal.

oldandlively · Apr 6, 2026

PE routines can be quite addictive. Just don't go too crazy on the high pressure too soon or too fast. Do the proper routine for the proper type of gain. Longer pumping time and higher pressure don't mean faster gains. It's actually the opposite. Shorter pumping time, through dynamic pressure of low, moderate, and high pressures, stay low pressure if you want longer pump time, and maintain low restrictive pressure to keep the penis expanded. This is the best approach.

Hiaslayer · Tuesday at 5:38 AM

Just a quick question. I’m doing my girth workout at about 5-6am and my length workout in the evening. Should I wear an ADS after the girth work too? I want to use my morning wood for a good girth session and I can get a good session in before work. Put a cock ring on for 15min, pump up again drive to work with a cock ring on for 15min. After another 15 min I Jelq a little bit, put my ADS on and that’s it. At about 8pm I’d do a proper length work out and the sky is the limit here time wise.

I know I should not wear the ADS sleeve during sleep but I’ve already worn it during the day for a few hours. Should I still wear it?

I don’t really want to do my length routine in the morning because:
- I wake up with a boner and it takes a while for it to go down - 5 minutes wasted
- prepare my penis for the lengthmaster (once I have it) - another 5 minutes
- 10 minutes gone without having started my workout. I would already have finished my first pumping set and SSJ would I be doing girth
- after my length workout my dick is exhausted and I don’t really feel it during the day. I like the pumped feeling during the day. Makes me feel good

The question essentially boils down to:
Should I do length in the morning so the ADS is being worn for several hours during the day after the length session or is my current plan ok?

ATM I don’t have the lengthmaster yet so I’m only doing manual stretches but once I do I want to actually focus on length tbh and any additional girth is a nice to have.

oldandlively · Tuesday at 10:42 AM

For you to start up that early in the morning, that is more than nominal. That's actually the perfect time period to do PE, just like physical exercises. Your body just barely got out of its rest phases, and is fully ready to be revved up.

Hiaslayer said:
Just a quick question. I’m doing my girth workout at about 5-6am and my length workout in the evening. Should I wear an ADS after the girth work too? I want to use my morning wood for a good girth session and I can get a good session in before work. Put a cock ring on for 15min, pump up again drive to work with a cock ring on for 15min. After another 15 min I Jelq a little bit, put my ADS on and that’s it. At about 8pm I’d do a proper length work out and the sky is the limit here time wise.

Two prongs of questions and answer. First, using your morning wood as girth exercise. Best mindset thinking yet. Your body still has lingering high load of testosterone, primed to perform PE, especially for girth. I used to do the same thing before my break. It's easier for you to get full erection for the pump and for the expansion jelqing (SSJ). That lingering effects lasts between 15 minutes to 90 minutes after waking up. Take full advantage of it. Don't even get out of bed. Just reach over and grab that pump after you do some quick SSJ to stimulate yourself. I know what is your friend, but when your wood is as hard as a tree trunk, use it immediately.

Once you pump, there's a post-effect of tissue stretching. I normally spend 5 minutes on the Length Master to break down the tissues before I wear the ADS, but yes, you can wear the ADS after the girth session. Again, you're taking advantage of the SSJ and pumping post-effect of tissue extension. But add a 5 minute length routine into the mix, you maximize that ADS usage. Just make sure the pumping and SSJ didn't make your glans hyper sensitive or the glans skin too weakened if you're using a vacuum type ADS. Blister City. Happened to me too many times.

Hiaslayer said:
I know I should not wear the ADS sleeve during sleep but I’ve already worn it during the day for a few hours. Should I still wear it?

I don’t really want to do my length routine in the morning because:
- I wake up with a boner and it takes a while for it to go down - 5 minutes wasted
- prepare my penis for the lengthmaster (once I have it) - another 5 minutes
- 10 minutes gone without having started my workout. I would already have finished my first pumping set and SSJ would I be doing girth
- after my length workout my dick is exhausted and I don’t really feel it during the day. I like the pumped feeling during the day. Makes me feel good

The question essentially boils down to:
Should I do length in the morning so the ADS is being worn for several hours during the day after the length session or is my current plan ok?

Yes, and yes. For ADS, wear it all day until you do your length routines if you can.

Hiaslayer said:
ATM I don’t have the lengthmaster yet so I’m only doing manual stretches but once I do I want to actually focus on length tbh and any additional girth is a nice to have.

If you don't have the Length Master yet, use your flexible tape to wrap around the base of the glans to create traction for pulling, and better yet, use the traction to do bundled exercises where you can twist your penis, minimizing the amount of force you have to pull. If you don't know what flexible tape looks like, Uncle Jim's tape in the MoS Shop is an example of the flexible tape you can get from the shop for from your local stores. Not sure how much the costs are for the tape compared to the Shop.

Hiaslayer · Wednesday at 12:26 AM

Excellent! That works perfectly with my schedule and is a routine I can stick with long term.

I bought the sili sleeve and the wrap with the LM so now the gains can come. Package shipping yesterday. Thanks DLD!

Hiaslayer · Wednesday at 4:16 AM

At what pressure should I do the hardcore stretches?

If I pull, the vacuum goes up so I don’t wantvto overdo it. For example I don’t want to pump to -7 then pull and the vacuum goes up to -9, which would be too high.

What’s the recommendation for the hardcore stretches with the Mityvac?

Shotta609 · Wednesday at 3:00 PM

Does the mityvac give length or just girth? I heard pumps just give girth

DLD · Wednesday at 4:44 PM

Hiaslayer said:
Excellent! That works perfectly with my schedule and is a routine I can stick with long term.

I bought the sili sleeve and the wrap with the LM so now the gains can come. Package shipping yesterday. Thanks DLD!

Excellent news.Thanks for being so patient as we work through these orders

Hiaslayer · 2026-04-18T06:20:37-0600

I feel like I’m reaching new highs in the BM. I’ve not been really using it as I was sticking to the Mityvac and the above pumping and stretching schedule but as it’s Saturday and I feel like splashing around with water I thought I do a quick Bathmate session before I hit on some chicks later.

Question regarding 5x5x3: should I do one long SSJ jelq for 5 min or several totalling 5 min? I incorporate also some Ulis but my grip hand can’t really last that long. What’s the ideal?

I also did some BM hardcore stretches. 3x30s. I feel those much better in the internal penis than when I do them with the Mityvac.

DLD · 2026-04-18T17:32:02-0600

I can't tell from the picture, but what is your new size?

Hiaslayer · 2026-04-18T17:50:26-0600

I hit 21.8cm in the BM. I won’t be taking actual measurements until early July.

I’m struggling to go fully erect into the Mityvac. My glands gets caught on the cylinder wall and when I start pumping it hurts a little due to the friction. I need to get some blood out of my penis to have maybe a 70-80% errection and a smaller glands. Obviously that’s not ideal and I want to enter with a full errection. Any tips? I don’t want to get a bigger cylinder as I’m not filling this one out throughout the whole shaft area.

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