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Your post-workout for the LM BPFLS is still solid. That turtling is because of the extra stresses. It'll return after the next rest day.
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 61 hrs 10 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 80 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS
18.6 cm

LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 7 min x 30 sec dld rolls
LM 3 min x 30 sec bundles

***PostWork BPFLS
18.9 cm

Extender
30 min 3 to 4 lbs
(4 min down 1 min up)

After extender
*** 18.8 cm
 
JustGrow said:
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 61 hrs 10 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 80 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS
18.6 cm

LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 7 min x 30 sec dld rolls
LM 3 min x 30 sec bundles

***PostWork BPFLS
18.9 cm

Extender
30 min 3 to 4 lbs
(4 min down 1 min up)

After extender
*** 18.8 cm
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Fantastic work, inspire me to get started again.
Thanks for sharing
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 63 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 81 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS
18.6 cm
Extender 1 hr 3 to 4 lbs
***PostWork BPFLS
Post extender 18.8cm

Not sure if extender only work before active work is doing anything for permanent results since it is before active work of LM or any other stretching
@oldandlively @DLD am I wasting my time with just wearing extender only and should i stick with active work first

I feel like I'm getting somewhat of a stretch before the rest of the work below

1 hr rest then more active work

Warm up heating pad 5 min
**PreWork BPFLS after 1hr rest
18.6 cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
5 min x 30 sec bundles
***PostWork BPFLS
18.9 cm

Extender
5 min 9 lbs + heating pad
5 min straight 7 lbs ice top 1 min then bottom 1 min
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
10 min straight 4 lbs
5 min straight 4 lbs w heat
10 min straight
10 min straight 4 lbs w heat

25 min ext 4 to 5 lbs

After extender
*** 18.8 cm

The more I try to put more tension post active stretches seems counter intuitive at least from what I've felt

@oldandlively mentioned to go 9lbs few minutes then 7lbs then low 3 to 4 lbs rest of the time which isb right on

Anytime too much tension for too long causes the penile tissue to want to restract or stiffen up, overzelous will take a step back
 
JustGrow said:
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 63 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 81 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS
18.6 cm
Extender 1 hr 3 to 4 lbs
***PostWork BPFLS
Post extender 18.8cm

Not sure if extender only work before active work is doing anything for permanent results since it is before active work of LM or any other stretching
@oldandlively @DLD am I wasting my time with just wearing extender only and should i stick with active work first

I feel like I'm getting somewhat of a stretch before the rest of the work below

1 hr rest then more active work
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It's pre-stretching your soft tissues, something like loosening up your muscles before a very long swim or a sprint.

JustGrow said:
Warm up heating pad 5 min
**PreWork BPFLS after 1hr rest
18.6 cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
5 min x 30 sec bundles
***PostWork BPFLS
18.9 cm

Extender
5 min 9 lbs + heating pad
5 min straight 7 lbs ice top 1 min then bottom 1 min
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
10 min straight 4 lbs
5 min straight 4 lbs w heat
10 min straight
10 min straight 4 lbs w heat

25 min ext 4 to 5 lbs

After extender
*** 18.8 cm

The more I try to put more tension post active stretches seems counter intuitive at least from what I've felt
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You are correct on this one. When you place too much moderate to high traction tension to post-workout routine, you're continually stressing it even further. Remember, the amount of tension at a sheer stressor point is 1.125kg before the cell walls start to break. After an initial amount of workout routine, cells are already breaking apart constantly. All you need to do is to maintain that 1.1 to 1.5kg to continually to break the cell walls to continuously have repairs, but still keep the tissues loose without retraction. So, keep it between 2.5lbs to 3.2lbs range.

JustGrow said:
@oldandlively mentioned to go 9lbs few minutes then 7lbs then low 3 to 4 lbs rest of the time which isb right on

Anytime too much tension for too long causes the penile tissue to want to restract or stiffen up, overzelous will take a step back
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Exactly! It's not only scientifically proven, but it's also medically recorded. Experiment with 2.5lbs to 3.5lbs max range, just below the 4lbs loading. You'll see unique changes during soft tissue relaxation as well.
 
oldandlively said:
It's pre-stretching your soft tissues, something like loosening up your muscles before a very long swim or a sprint.



You are correct on this one. When you place too much moderate to high traction tension to post-workout routine, you're continually stressing it even further. Remember, the amount of tension at a sheer stressor point is 1.125kg before the cell walls start to break. After an initial amount of workout routine, cells are already breaking apart constantly. All you need to do is to maintain that 1.1 to 1.5kg to continually to break the cell walls to continuously have repairs, but still keep the tissues loose without retraction. So, keep it between 2.5lbs to 3.2lbs range.



Exactly! It's not only scientifically proven, but it's also medically recorded. Experiment with 2.5lbs to 3.5lbs max range, just below the 4lbs loading. You'll see unique changes during soft tissue relaxation as well.
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So true! Bless you my brother
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 64 hrs 40 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 82 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS
18.6 cm

4 min x 30 sec manual bundles
Extender
5 min bundle R
5 min bundle L
5 min bundle R
5 min bundle L

***PostWork BPFLS
Post extender 18.8cm

Extender
10 min straight 3 to 4 lbs w heat
40 mim straight 3 to 4 lbs

After extender
*** 18.8 to 18.9 cm
 
You should get a five minute massage and light stretch before you start your session As a warm up. This helps soften tissue and prepare the penis to be stretched with no problems.
 
DLD said:
You should get a five minute massage and light stretch before you start your session As a warm up. This helps soften tissue and prepare the penis to be stretched with no problems.
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I know I forgot to add heat before and I like what you mention about massage and light stretch to relax the tissues
 
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JustGrow said:
I know I forgot to add heat before and I like what you mention about massage and light stretch to relax the tissue are the best ways to warm up.
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This is one of the best ways to warm up.
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 64 hrs 40 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 83 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS
18.6 cm

LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles

***PostWork BPFLS
Post extender 18.9cm

Extender
5 min bundle R w heat
5 min bundle L w heat
10 min straight 3 to 4 lbs

After extender
*** 18.8 cm
 
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Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 66 hrs 40 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 84 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS
18.5 cm
Extender 1hr 3 to 4 lbs w heat
***PostWork BPFLS
Post extender 18.7cm

Extender
5 min bundle R
5 min bundle L
5 min bundle R
5 min bundle L
40 min down 4 lbs

After extender
*** 18.8 cm
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 67 hrs 50 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 85 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.5 cm

LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec dld rolls

***PostWork BPFLS 18.7cm

Extender w heat
5 min straight 7 lbs
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
30 min straight 4 lbs

After extender
*** 19.0 cm

Yeah!!! Finally even if it was slow and steady and after workout but the ruler finally hit 19.0 cm

More time
Extender w heat
5 min straight 7 lbs
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
10 min straight 4 lbs
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 67 hrs 50 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 86 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.5 cm
Newbie type warm up stretches down and straight out
10 min x 30 sec

LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 5 min x 30 sec dld rolls

***PostWork BPFLS 18.7cm

Extender w heat
5 min straight 7 lbs
5 min straight 5 lbs
10 min straight 4 lbs

After extender
*** 18.9cm
 
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Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 68 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 87 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
Newbie type warm up stretches down and straight out
17 min x 30 sec

LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles

***PostWork BPFLS 19cm

sleeve time 40 min

After sleeve
*** 19.1cm
 
Much quicker development this time around. I'm seeing a shorter period for establishing growth. Very nice.
 
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JustGrow said:
I appreciate the continued feedback from you and DLD


I feel like the newbie stretches are helping relax the tissues before the LM work, thank you!
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The newbie stretches are incredible. They were the backbone of the original matters of size exercises. Those stretches brought me from 6.5 to 8.5
 
I've done a couple of workouts in the last couple of weeks but didn't document

I've been experimenting with manuals and some behind the cheeks type manual stretches
Very powerful stretches

I will document my next workout for sure

Got to get back, a bit more consistent
 
JustGrow said:
I've done a couple of workouts in the last couple of weeks but didn't document

I've been experimenting with manuals and some behind the cheeks type manual stretches
Very powerful stretches

I will document my next workout for sure

Got to get back, a bit more consistent
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Looking forward to your documentation of your workout and your growth. This is the best way to keep yourself in the game while we help you stay consistent.
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 69 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 88 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm

Newbie type warm up stretches down and straight out
20 min x 30 sec

***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm

Extender
60 min straight 4 lbs

After extender
*** 18.9 to 19 cm
 
Looking good, my brother keep up the good work and amazing things. We'll happen for you
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 69 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 89 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
5 min heat pad

Not sure what its called but the Dld stretches with the wrist hold
10 min x 30 sec

Good stretches

***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm

Extender
18.8 min straight 4 lbs

After extender
***18.8
 
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extender wear 1 hr

Just wanted to see how the tissues have stayed since I have not been working out as much

The BPFLS is pretty easy to 18cm
18.5cm mostly

19cm hard stretches BPFSL after extender
 
Hi @oldboy77

I have an Epic Extender that I use during active training meaning right after use of manual stretches and Length Master use
So manual stretching or LM about 20 minutes then 1 hour or so of Epic stretcher use

I also use a hybrid stretcher which is like the
Stealth stretcher

I call it a hybrid because it was an x4 noose stretcher which I do not recommend using at all

But i was able to find some parts to make it similar to the stealth stretcher online
I use this also after LM work

Hope this helps

The big thing will be active stretching then wearing of the extender

I think it speeds up the process rather than just wearing an extender alone

But best to start slow with it
Don't be overzelous that could lead to injury
Ease into it

Start with manual stretches and wearing extender maybe 20 minutes then go from there

But don't use anything with a noose at least from my experience not good
 
Agree 100%. Whenever I create a new exercise or use new gear, I always start at the lowest end and work my way up to my max. There's no rush, in p.E you need to have patience and be in control of all things at all times
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 70 hrs 0 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 90 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.6 cm
Not sure what they are called but the Dld stretches with the wrist hold
10 min x 30 sec

LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles

***PostWork BPFLS 18.7 cm

Extender
Heating pad
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs

10 min staight 4 lbs

After extender
***18.8cm

Should I be bundling more than what I am

I feel like the routine I have done is still working
Slowly but still effective

I think my post workout wearing of extender needs to be more consistent
 
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JustGrow said:
Should I be bundling more than what I am

I feel like the routine I have done is still working
Slowly but still effective

I think my post workout wearing of extender needs to be more consistent
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Try full bundling to the point you can't any more, but equally for both directions. If you can do 720 degrees for one side but only 700 for the other, stick at 540 degrees for both until you can achieve 720 for both for pulling. But for performing rotator like a clock hand, use 700.
 
I'm glad you asked, and I can tell you. After I invented bundled stretches, I made the greatest scains in my life
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 70 hrs 0 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 91 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.4 cm
Manual stretches
10 min x 30 sec

LM 5 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 3 min x 30 dld rolls
Felt a bit of pain on the top of shaft with the rolls but had less padding with ace wrap than I normally do when I do these so that's probably why

***PostWork BPFLS 18.6 cm

Extender w/ Heating pad
30 min staight 4 lbs

After extender
***18.9cm
 
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Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 71 hrs 35 min
ADS 3 hr 20 min

Session 92 of ?

***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
@oldandlively
I tried the bundles sort of the way you mentioned like a clock and then going a bit more
backing off then like a clock again
Felt like the bundles were deeper
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm

Extender w/ Heating pad
10 min straight 4 lbs
5 min bundle L 4 lbs
5 min bundle R 4 lbs
15 min straight 7 lbs
40 min straight 4 lbs
Measured post extender and got
18.7cm

Another
20 min straight 4lbs with heat

Just been feeling really tight tissues lately
So not sure if it's because I backed off a bit from my workouts or if the tissues are cementing to new measurement

I know I've had some growth from where I started
Aug 2026 I was at
17.3 cm BPFSL

Now most days if I check BPFLS
I make it past 18cm like 18.2cm or more.

I have been pumping some days with a 1.75 cylinder and about 5hg to 7hg and get 6.5cm erect maybe a bit more

So I figure I need to get to 19cm to be at 7 inches erect unless I'm not thinking about this correctly

Also is pumping stunting my length gains at all by making the tissues thicker or does this work also in length since I'm feeling stretching on the base ligaments

After extender at the end measured
***18.8cm
 
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@oldandlively @DLD
When I wear my suction cup extender when I have it on for more than 1 hr
I get what appears to be fluid build up behind the glans
It actually looks like thick deep veins
Is it due to the long wear

How often should I allow blood flow every
15 minutes
20 minutes
The extender is at about 3 to 5 lbs most of the time

If I go higher than this like
7 or 9 lbs then i remove suction every 10 to 15 minutes and will only do
10 or 15 minutes at this tension
 
JustGrow said:
***PreWork BPFLS 18.2 cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
@oldandlively
I tried the bundles sort of the way you mentioned like a clock and then going a bit more
backing off then like a clock again
Felt like the bundles were deeper
***PostWork BPFLS 18.8 cm
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The deeper supporting muscles is probably trying to fight to reset your inner penis back to its original curvature. Think of the base muscle tissues where the ligaments anchored to reacted to the deeper workout. Go light with the pull, perform the higher intensity pull you had done to deep that deeper bundled pulled, and then ease up to a lighter pull just to tell the body, "It's okay. It's only a temporary stressing." The body will respond differently when you "warm up", then forced it to cope, and "warm down".


JustGrow said:
So I figure I need to get to 19cm to be at 7 inches erect unless I'm not thinking about this correctly

Also is pumping stunting my length gains at all by making the tissues thicker or does this work also in length since I'm feeling stretching on the base ligaments

After extender at the end measured
***18.8cm
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18.8cm is due to the new deep pull sensation you had earlier. No worries. Keep the course.

JustGrow said:
@oldandlively @DLD
When I wear my suction cup extender when I have it on for more than 1 hr
I get what appears to be fluid build up behind the glans
It actually looks like thick deep veins
Is it due to the long wear
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The deep veins bulge is fluid retention. It happens even to the best of us when the vacuum pressure is higher than normal after the routines. If you have to wrap up the area where the fluid builds up on top of the sleeve point, do it lightly. If you do have a large amount of fluid buildup, wrap instead of using the vacuum cup to keep things elongated.

JustGrow said:
How often should I allow blood flow every
15 minutes
20 minutes
The extender is at about 3 to 5 lbs most of the time
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When you have slow blood flow because of the restriction wrapping or vacuum cup to around 90%, allow the blood to flow for 30 minutes every hour in. So, it's every 30 minutes break, with 5 minutes relax time, to prevent fluid build up. If your restriction blood flow rate is around 80%, you can allow a 30 minute relaxation every 2 hours. At 70%, it's every 3 hours. At 50%, you can go as long as 6 hours.

JustGrow said:
If I go higher than this like
7 or 9 lbs then i remove suction every 10 to 15 minutes and will only do
10 or 15 minutes at this tension
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If you're hanging/pulling at 7 to 9lbs, allow a break every 10 minutes. Why? Because of the pulling tension you're having, with very high compression load against your glans using the wraps, sleeves, and vacuum cup. When I use the vacuum cup to "hang" or have any high traction load at 6lbs or greater, I take break for 3 minutes for every 10 minutes of high traction tension.
 
oldandlively said:
The deeper supporting muscles is probably trying to fight to reset your inner penis back to its original curvature. Think of the base muscle tissues where the ligaments anchored to reacted to the deeper workout. Go light with the pull, perform the higher intensity pull you had done to deep that deeper bundled pulled, and then ease up to a lighter pull just to tell the body, "It's okay. It's only a temporary stressing." The body will respond differently when you "warm up", then forced it to cope, and "warm down".




18.8cm is due to the new deep pull sensation you had earlier. No worries. Keep the course.



The deep veins bulge is fluid retention. It happens even to the best of us when the vacuum pressure is higher than normal after the routines. If you have to wrap up the area where the fluid builds up on top of the sleeve point, do it lightly. If you do have a large amount of fluid buildup, wrap instead of using the vacuum cup to keep things elongated.



When you have slow blood flow because of the restriction wrapping or vacuum cup to around 90%, allow the blood to flow for 30 minutes every hour in. So, it's every 30 minutes break, with 5 minutes relax time, to prevent fluid build up. If your restriction blood flow rate is around 80%, you can allow a 30 minute relaxation every 2 hours. At 70%, it's every 3 hours. At 50%, you can go as long as 6 hours.



If you're hanging/pulling at 7 to 9lbs, allow a break every 10 minutes. Why? Because of the pulling tension you're having, with very high compression load against your glans using the wraps, sleeves, and vacuum cup. When I use the vacuum cup to "hang" or have any high traction load at 6lbs or greater, I take break for 3 minutes for every 10 minutes of high traction tension.
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Just to keep things safe then on lighter tensions 3 to 5 lbs for 30 minutes
then allow blood flow for 5 minutes

High tension 7 to 9 lbs 10 minutes then blood flow for 3 to 5 minutes

As far as the workload continue tension but with lighter pull for the bundles

What do you think about a length routine with pumping for 10 minutes or so then doing erect stretches another 10 minutes?
Maybe times 2 rounds

I would like to change my routine a bit or do you think i should continue with my current routine until i break 19cm BPFSL

Thank you!
 
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