is this a good intensity ?

saynow · Tuesday at 2:01 PM

oldandlively said:
Not the same NBPFSL is when your penis is soft. NBPEL is when our penis is hard.

but yesterday i measured both and both were the same number is this by chance only
or sometime this happen ?
thank you

oldandlively · Tuesday at 2:11 PM

saynow said:
but yesterday i measured both and both were the same number is this by chance only
or sometime this happen ?

Some brothers do have the same flaccid (soft penis) and erected (hard penis) length. This is not uncommon. I can say that around 28% of the male population has this phenomenon.

So, for your logging record, you can use even if they are the same:

NBPFSL: xx cm
NBEL: xx cm

In PE, as you grow, your erected length commonly becomes longer than your flaccid. But in some cases, both flaccid and erect lengths will be the same. You don't have to worry too much on it. It will look more pleasing to your partner.

DLD · Tuesday at 8:07 PM

For me there was always a difference between bpel and flaccid stretched size. It was always around a half inch. So everyone has a slightly different measurements. What is most effective is measure once every 3 to 6 months

saynow · Thursday at 3:18 PM

@DLD @oldandlively

is erection gain is the hardest ?
i feel my flaccid NBFL gained 0.5 cm while erection NBEL gained only 0.2-0.3 cm only

after 3 weeks exercises jelqing

oldandlively · Thursday at 3:58 PM

saynow said:
is erection gain is the hardest ?
i feel my flaccid NBFL gained 0.5 cm while erection NBEL gained only 0.2-0.3 cm only

NBEL is less as you put it than he flaccid. Why? Flaccid, for NBFL, is when the state of your ligaments and muscles are relaxed. When they are relaxed, the length becomes more.

When you are erected, your tissues tighten up, your muscles contract, and your tunica ligaments may curve, causing your length to shorten. This is why your NBEL is less than than your NBFL.

DLD · Thursday at 4:25 PM

Bpfs is the first area of gain. This eventually will become erect length. you can look at it as a crystal ball into your future. Just keep up with your routine and add intensity and exercise when needed to continue making gains

saynow · Saturday at 8:14 AM

@DLD @oldandlively

i have question i am really thankful to you

do penis contract after exercise and get shorter flaccid & erect ?
no gains even at all & less than normal even
& flaccid 0.5 cm less than normal

i feel that after measuring

oldandlively · Saturday at 11:18 AM

saynow said:
do penis contract after exercise and get shorter flaccid & erect ?
no gains even at all & less than normal even

& flaccid 0.5 cm less than normal

Very common. This is when your body detects something is not right, and the stresses to the penis is too much. The body try to preserve itself by turtling, or retraction, to prevent injuries. Every time you perform PE, you are causing micro injuries. The body does not like it.

saynow · Saturday at 12:27 PM

oldandlively said:
Very common. This is when your body detects something is not right, and the stresses to the penis is too much. The body try to preserve itself by turtling, or retraction, to prevent injuries. Every time you perform PE, you are causing micro injuries. The body does not like it.

@oldandlively @DLD

soon i will measure the result of 1 month jelqing

i wonder how to reach maximum erection

i am thinking to use videos that contain high arousing content & light massaging to penis
is this a good idea ?

i am thinking too to wait 24 hrs from the last time jelqing then measure is this a good idea too ??!!!!

thank you from the deep of my heart

oldandlively · Saturday at 1:00 PM

saynow said:
i wonder how to reach maximum erection

Don't wonder. Attempt to reach maximum erection at all time if you can during your jelqing sessions if you can, and ONLY if you can. This is erect jelqing. For those who have issues with constant erectile quality, it's something to train your brain to find a way to do it. Even I have a hard time keeping a solid erection constantly without stimulation, but it doesn't stop me from trying to reprogram my brain to do so.

saynow said:
i am thinking to use videos that contain high arousing content & light massaging to penis
is this a good idea ?

Best to keep the adult entertainment videos out of your life as much as you can. I can understand using some photographic content to initiate your stimulation, but even that needs to be minimized. If you have a partner, or an imaginary partner of choice, use that photographic aid to help you. But for the videos, stay away from it. Use your mind to generate the imaginative visualization you need. Otherwise, the world of PIED can come back to haunt you. It's as dangerous as drug addiction.

saynow said:
i am thinking too to wait 24 hrs from the last time jelqing then measure is this a good idea too ??!!!!

When you want to measure, measure two levels: after jelqing sessions to measure your POTENTIAL gains and 24 hours after for the normalcy state. Normalcy state is when your body has time to reset everything. Your potential gain sizes predict what your body is willing to yield to your gains and your body is willing to reset itself to the new states if you're willing to keep going forward with your training. There is a hard limit where you body says, "Enough is enough." Your body will not provide that new potential sizes you want because the body hasn't catch up with its reprogramming yet. Your body and brain actually have hard limits programmed into your very DNA to prevent you from killing yourself. it's the same with your muscles and skeletal structures. You can't go past that limit no matter how much drugs you use and how hard to try. The safety switches are built in to prevent you from killing yourself.

However, in the world of PE, there is a way to go around those hard limits, but it does take time and patience. DLD already proved to us that hard limits for the penis can be overcame with a lot of hard work.

DLD · Saturday at 6:16 PM

oldandlively said:
However, in the world of PE, there is a way to go around those hard limits, but it does take time and patience. DLD already proved to us that hard limits for the penis can be overcame with a lot of hard work.

I did go hard to get what I wanted and it was extremely hardcore doing 3 sessions of SRT daily. I would not recommend this to newbies as one session is enough. This is more directed at large men who are struggling for gains. I have coached many men who are large with these same needs.

saynow · Saturday at 7:06 PM

@oldandlively @DLD

after about 30 hrs of the last jelqing

after 3.5 weeks of jelqing

there is a gain in flaccid NBFL 0.5 cm &

loss in erection NBEL 0.5 cm from my normal length no gain at all in erection but loss !!!!!

is this normal ?

really sorry if there is disturbance

oldandlively · Saturday at 8:35 PM

No worries brother. Your body is trying to recover itself. Don't worry too much about it. Once you stretch, try to find way to keep your penis elongated after your stretching. You'll notice in a bit of time that your elongation stretches after the routines will stretch your NBEL more and more. It will take a bit of time. Just focus on the routines and not worry about the body tries to fight every day. Just push forward slowly, and safely.

saynow · 2025-05-11T05:51:06-0600

oldandlively said:
No worries brother. Your body is trying to recover itself. Don't worry too much about it. Once you stretch, try to find way to keep your penis elongated after your stretching. You'll notice in a bit of time that your elongation stretches after the routines will stretch your NBEL more and more. It will take a bit of time. Just focus on the routines and not worry about the body tries to fight every day. Just push forward slowly, and safely.

i really have no idea to keep my penis elongated after jelqing i have no penis sleeve or extender or things like that

should i take rest for 48 hrs for example or 3 days ?

or continue my routine

& go on the second month ?!!!!

thank you

oldandlively · 2025-05-11T08:26:39-0600

saynow said:
i really have no idea to keep my penis elongated after jelqing i have no penis sleeve or extender or things like that

You can simply use flexible bandage. Cheap and all over the place.

saynow said:
should i take rest for 48 hrs for example or 3 days ?

or continue my routine

& go on the second month ?!!!!

Don't take 48 hours off. 3 days of exercises, one day off. Not two. Keep going forward.

saynow · 2025-05-11T11:35:51-0600

oldandlively said:
You can simply use flexible bandage. Cheap and all over the place.

Don't take 48 hours off. 3 days of exercises, one day off. Not two. Keep going forward.

but erection length never get shorter after jelqing
right ?
i want you to reassure me

oldandlively · 2025-05-11T13:58:48-0600

saynow said:
but erection length never get shorter after jelqing
right ?
i want you to reassure me

No, it doesn't erection length is a hard permanent length. It does not shorten after you have a permanent gain. During the period of growth, the length can fluctuate, but does not shorten past your existing permanent erection size, unless you have a genetic deformity.

DLD · 2025-05-11T17:26:39-0600

oldandlively said:
You can simply use flexible bandage. Cheap and all over the place.

Don't take 48 hours off. 3 days of exercises, one day off. Not two. Keep going forward.

I agree you should never go for more than 1 day. You can adjust what you're doing to make things more comfortable for you but the 1 off 1 on is a logical time off.

saynow · 2025-05-11T22:54:23-0600

@oldandlively @DLD
yesterday i made jelqing 4:00 am
today it is 7 am i measured my NBPEL it is 10 cm instead of 12 cm which is the normal the time before from several days ago
i measured it is 11.5 cm
i am very anxious i will try to take 2 days off to see if my erectile length will be enhanced to the normal or not

i am about to finish my first month jelqing
i got gain in flaccid 0.5 cm
but what worry me is the erectile length

oldandlively · 2025-05-12T08:50:43-0600

saynow said:
yesterday i made jelqing 4:00 am
today it is 7 am i measured my NBPEL it is 10 cm instead of 12 cm which is the normal the time before from several days ago
i measured it is 11.5 cm
i am very anxious i will try to take 2 days off to see if my erectile length will be enhanced to the normal or not

First, let's calm down and think things through logically, and scientifically. Now, let's get a clear understanding and we need you to provide proper info:

When you measure NPEL before the PE routines, was it 11.5 cm?

Did you measure the same exact location each time, pressing the same location each time and above the penis at the exact location each time? If you deviated from the same measuring location, you will tend to lose some length because the fat and skin thickness is different everywhere around the pubic.

saynow said:
i am about to finish my first month jelqing
i got gain in flaccid 0.5 cm

Flaccid gain is common as your penis stretches.

saynow said:
but what worry me is the erectile length

We don't lose the original erectile length, unless there is strange genetic deformity like we discussed earlier. What we think we lost in length is actually the muscles under the base of the penis trying to pull the penis inwards because you're developing strong base muscles. In reality, the erected length is exactly the same as your muscles relax. That can be observed through the flaccid state. We use the Length Master or mechanical assist devices to tug against the ligaments and base muscles to counter the body biological pulling as the base muscles get stronger over time. It's very normal.

Again, it's a very normal process. You're not losing any length. Just verify with us the questions above. From there, we will teach you how to pop the length back using length routine exercises through the SRT.

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