Lengthmaster 3 and safety around dorsal nerve?

[samlovell]

I just received my Lengthmaster 3 and did a beginner routine. I have been using Phallosan for 1 month but using it for 5-6 hrs isn't workighn out consistently, so decided to go with Lengthmaster 3 (20 mins twice day).

Just read on 'R3dd1t' thread that Lengthmaster clamping can put too much pressure on the dorsal nerve/artery and cause damage.

How do I prevent that from happening?
I am using SIM's instrcution videos here and using the wrapping as advised in https://mattersofsize.com/data/video/1/1024-29660f2bef64eaa73cf3ee25aa47fe01.mp4
I am using yellow theraband + 1 single rotation wrap of black tape + 1 single rotation of uncle jim's wrap.

How do I know if I am clamping down too much? My guess is that I need to clamp just enough so that the penis doesn't slip when stretched.
Anything more is unnecessary and excessive. But even at that minimal clamping pressure, can it hurt dorsal nerve?

Should I increase the wrapping layers to create barrier? How much wrappign is tto much wrapping?

Please advise. I am getting nervous.

CHeers
Sam

 

[oldandlively]

I just received my Lengthmaster 3 and did a beginner routine. I have been using Phallosan for 1 month but using it for 5-6 hrs isn't workighn out consistently, so decided to go with Lengthmaster 3 (20 mins twice day).

Don't just use the Length Master alone. If you have the PhalloSan, use it on top of the LM3. Use the LM3 to break the tissues down faster, and use the PhalloSan to keep the tissues lengthened as the tissues healed. Otherwise, you have the use sleeves, wraps, stretcher to keep the tissues elongated for the healing process.

Just read on 'R3dd1t' thread that Lengthmaster clamping can put too much pressure on the dorsal nerve/artery and cause damage.

There's a massive difference between the clamping using edged tool, such as the Cable Clamp and similar modifications, and the two mounting plates. People use the word "clamp" to signify the holding, but again, a clamp are edged platforms between 0in to 1in. Think of a regular metal clamps. When you have two large plates with large surfaces, the word used is "mount", as in pressure plates mounting, and not clamping. But, if they want to use the word mount to signify all strapping devices, even the basic JES extender is a "clamp" device.

How do I prevent that from happening?
I am using SIM's instrcution videos here and using the wrapping as advised in https://mattersofsize.com/data/video/1/1024-29660f2bef64eaa73cf3ee25aa47fe01.mp4
I am using yellow theraband + 1 single rotation wrap of black tape + 1 single rotation of uncle jim's wrap.

When you use the TheraBand layer first, you are using frictious layer. You can use as much as 3 go 5 rotations to create cushion. Adding on extra layer like the flexible tape (Uncle Jim's tape) to create addition padding or cushion. This protects the dorsal nerves during the mounting of the plates, when compression occurs.

If the bulk wrap is correct, the TheraBand wrap and the additional cushion padding combo do not need a whole lot of tightening of the two plates. You don't have crush your penis to the point where you feel pain, or so much that the cushion acts as a constriction. You only need to tighten the plates just enough to allow the penis to situate in the grooves of the plate, and the cushion compress just enough to hold the penis in place.

Depending on where you are in the PE journey, most don't need more than 15bs of pulling force. If you have some free weights to calibrate the wrapping and mounting pressure of the plates, that will give you a good measurement of needed traction load.

How do I know if I am clamping down too much? My guess is that I need to clamp just enough so that the penis doesn't slip when stretched.
Anything more is unnecessary and excessive. But even at that minimal clamping pressure, can it hurt dorsal nerve?

No. It takes much more on pressure to cause a kink on the dorsal nerve to cause damage. There were cases when the lip of the pump's cylinder kink the dorsal nerve at the base of the penis, or the cable clamp kink the nerve along the penile shaft. It takes a period of 10 to 20 minutes of very heavy crushing force, and prevent the blood from circulating. Most LM3 exercises range from 3 to 10 minutes after mounting. I use it for 5 minutes with total mounting time of 7 minutes. Pulling force ranged from 5lbs to as high as 20lbs, with 40lbs for testing purposes. SIM's average was around 20lbs.

Should I increase the wrapping layers to create barrier? How much wrappign is tto much wrapping?

Yes, and yes. It is a learning curve at the start. None of us using the Length Master went through any nerve damage from mounting. We did suffer blisters and tissue damages from being stupid as we pulled too hard. This is why we bring our wisdom and knowledge of the younger stupid days to provide guidance to the brothers.

 

[samlovell]

Don't just use the Length Master alone. If you have the PhalloSan, use it on top of the LM3. Use the LM3 to break the tissues down faster, and use the PhalloSan to keep the tissues lengthened as the tissues healed. Otherwise, you have the use sleeves, wraps, stretcher to keep the tissues elongated for the healing process.

Thanks for your detailed response. Much appreciated.

How long is the healing process?

Problem with Phallosan for me, which I didn't realize before buying it is that I can only use this during day time and I also am a gym goer who drinks 2-3 litres of water, so have to pee more often and changing the Phallosan evey 1.5-2 hrs is cumbersome.

I can manage for 1.5-2 hrs after LM3; but if recovery times are longer, then I would probably learn the wrapping to keep it elongaated during recovery.

Is there any wrapping for recovery instruction on this site. I searched but didn't find easily. I can use common sense; but better follow instructions coming from experience. I am in UK, and I didn't order any sleeves when I ordered LM3. Shipping is waste of money if I have to just order sleeves. I have 1 Uncle jim's wrap and theraband that came iwth LM3, and 2 rolls of black wrapping tape. So have to do with it.
If sleeves are the best, then I will check out if anything local is availabel on eBay.

So please advise either way.

Thanks
Sam

 

[oldandlively]

Thanks for your detailed response. Much appreciated.

How long is the healing process?

Most nerve damages has a an average of 72 hours repair time. Total nerve cut off is different, requiring time from 2 to 3 months to fully reconnect and return to 80% or so functionality. Just light damages, no more than 5 days.

Problem with Phallosan for me, which I didn't realize before buying it is that I can only use this during day time and I also am a gym goer who drinks 2-3 litres of water, so have to pee more often and changing the Phallosan evey 1.5-2 hrs is cumbersome.

During gym time, use sleeves and wraps to keep the process elongated after the LM exercises. When you get back, you can use the PhalloSan again. That's the one great benefit of the LM3.

I can manage for 1.5-2 hrs after LM3; but if recovery times are longer, then I would probably learn the wrapping to keep it elongaated during recovery.

That's perfectly fine. The amount of traction force acting on the shaft may not achieve 900g or 1kg to optimize the stretching that you need. So, do consider various options. Look up the Stealth for Men sleeve and cork screw if the vacuum system is too cumbersome.

Is there any wrapping for recovery instruction on this site. I searched but didn't find easily. I can use common sense; but better follow instructions coming from experience. I am in UK, and I didn't order any sleeves when I ordered LM3. Shipping is waste of money if I have to just order sleeves. I have 1 Uncle jim's wrap and theraband that came iwth LM3, and 2 rolls of black wrapping tape. So have to do with it.
If sleeves are the best, then I will check out if anything local is availabel on eBay.

So please advise either way.

Thanks
Sam

Again, Uncle Jim's wrap is flexible tape. It's every where nowadays. Look for it locally. In the old days, it was very hard to find without medical license or bulk purchase by a certified company. The tape has been a valuable asset for everyone back then. It continues to be the tradition to have it here in MoS Shop.

I believe SIM has the wrap method on here in the media area. I'll make sure to bookmark for usages later and post here. It's the same as the LM3 wrapping, but slightly looser in terms of tightness.