Several months... Still no gains

[dmoney101]

But how do you know if you have gained or not if you don’t take measurements. Initial measurements are so vital to knowing if we have gains or not. But it’s never too late just take new measurements today and will work with those.

I did start taking measurements. I didn't at first, but I went ahead and measured not too long after starting while I could tell no growth had come yet.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Its psychological, and all hinges on how much you really want it. You can have the best routine, best exercises, best equipment, best supplements, best advice, and indeed if we had thread after thread after thread with picture + video and more proof that guys went from small to huge, it makes ZERO difference, if the person concerned doesn't have the desire for the final goal.

I'm not being harsh, but nowadays people want proof ... okay, we give proof it works, alas MOS has been alive since 2003 for a reason, and DLDs pictures have been around for years showing the gains, including a video.

Your either hungry for this, or your not. Can't be half arsed with this, either your in, or your not.

This my friend, is why the entire male population is not walking around with huge dicks ... its not easy, because of the psychological factor ... our mind can be either the greatest friend, or our demise.

 

[dmoney101]

Half assed? Did you see what my routine is? I'm not just stretching for 20 minutes and calling it a day. I stretch until my hands are cramped too bad to continue on.

 

[DLD]

I did start taking measurements. I didn't at first, but I went ahead and measured not too long after starting while I could tell no growth had come yet.

Put those measurements in as your most recent measurements and we will work off of that. You’re gonna be doing awesome, I just want to get everything in order.

 

[dmoney101]

Put those measurements in as your most recent measurements and we will work off of that. You’re gonna be doing awesome, I just want to get everything in order.

6.9" el, 7.2" BP. 5.1" girth (base is the same size as the shaft).

 

[DLD]

6.9" el, 7.2" BP. 5.1" girth (base is the same size as the shaft).

The first thing we need to do is get that 7.2 to 8 inches and let’s get your girth to 5.5. These will be the goal for the next 3 to 6 months. So the gains are easy and managanle. You only need .8 of an inch in length and .4 inches in girth. When you look at it like that it’s so simple and easy to get to. So let’s start with making your goal be in six months and let that goal be a solid 8 inches bone-pressed and 5.5 inches and girth.

 

[Brawn Johnson]

Half assed? Did you see what my routine is? I'm not just stretching for 20 minutes and calling it a day. I stretch until my hands are cramped too bad to continue on.

You're probably being a badass in your training, I don't think anyone doubts that. The half-assed bit in your case is not measuring and taking pictures.* That doesn't mean you aren't working hard, it means you aren't working smart. You're stretching every day until your hands are too cramped to continue, but all of that could be wasted because you didn't measure and really didn't know if all that work was paying off. Red can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's all he was getting at.

Now you've got some measurements, you've shed some light on what's actually going on. You aren't completely blind anymore, and you've got some data to guide you when you put in all that hard work. Good job getting on that fast!

*Btw I would take pictures every time, even if you don't ever intend to share them. Measuring accurately is harder than people think, and most people screw it up laughably. We're measuring tiny changes, too, so there isn't much room for error. Taking pictures will give you the measurements AND give you insight into how good a job you're doing measuring. I've already fixed some problems and made my measuring more uniform in just a couple months because I have those pictures to look at!

 

[DLD]

Now you've got some measurements, you've shed some light on what's actually going on. You aren't completely blind anymore, and you've got some data to guide you when you put in all that hard work. Good job getting on that fast!

Exactly!

 

[REDZULU2003]

Half assed? Did you see what my routine is? I'm not just stretching for 20 minutes and calling it a day. I stretch until my hands are cramped too bad to continue on.

I like it! I want to see your hand bleed man (monkey)

 

[dmoney101]

The first thing we need to do is get that 7.2 to 8 inches and let’s get your girth to 5.5. These will be the goal for the next 3 to 6 months. So the gains are easy and managanle. You only need .8 of an inch in length and .4 inches in girth. When you look at it like that it’s so simple and easy to get to. So let’s start with making your goal be in six months and let that goal be a solid 8 inches bone-pressed and 5.5 inches and girth.

Shoot, if I hit 8x5.5 I'd probably be done. It's just a mental thing for me. Every girl I've been with for the last 5 years has squirted, so obviously size isn't necessary. I just want that awe factor. I'm equally interested in flaccid gains just for the buldge lol

 

[dmoney101]

You're probably being a badass in your training, I don't think anyone doubts that. The half-assed bit in your case is not measuring and taking pictures.* That doesn't mean you aren't working hard, it means you aren't working smart. You're stretching every day until your hands are too cramped to continue, but all of that could be wasted because you didn't measure and really didn't know if all that work was paying off. Red can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's all he was getting at.

Now you've got some measurements, you've shed some light on what's actually going on. You aren't completely blind anymore, and you've got some data to guide you when you put in all that hard work. Good job getting on that fast!

*Btw I would take pictures every time, even if you don't ever intend to share them. Measuring accurately is harder than people think, and most people screw it up laughably. We're measuring tiny changes, too, so there isn't much room for error. Taking pictures will give you the measurements AND give you insight into how good a job you're doing measuring. I've already fixed some problems and made my measuring more uniform in just a couple months because I have those pictures to look at!

I stretch every other day or else my dick skin would be raw lol. I've always had a really hard time getting an erection when the ruler is out or if I'm taking a picture. Also have a hard time pissing in front of my p.o. but that's a different story ?
When I took those last measurements it took probably 20 minutes even with adult entertainment to get the length. I remember at one point I got my nbpl up to 7.1 when I was maybe 6 and all I did was the original newbie routine. For me nbp is more important than BP since you can have an 8" dick and look small because you're morbidly obese

 

[dmoney101]

I like it! I want to see your hand bleed man (monkey)

Some times I wonder if my arms aren't strong enough to pull my ligaments to the point they stretch out. I need to figure out how to rig a device that works like a Lengthmaster out of shit in my apartment ??

 

[Brawn Johnson]

I stretch every other day or else my dick skin would be raw . I've always had a really hard time getting an erection when the ruler is out or if I'm taking a picture. Also have a hard time pissing in front of my p.o. but that's a different story ?
When I took those last measurements it took probably 20 minutes even with adult entertainment to get the length. I remember at one point I got my nbpl up to 7.1 when I was maybe 6 and all I did was the original newbie routine. For me nbp is more important than BP since you can have an 8" dick and look small because you're morbidly obese

Don't we all, brother. @FullBloodArab had a cool idea to make getting pictures and measurements a little easier. Check it out!

Ultimately, I agree with you on NBP. Ultimately, only the visible penis counts. Having said that... I would strongly recommend using BP to measure progress because it will give you a much better idea of how effective your PE routine is. Check out this thread for more details there!

 

[FullBloodArab]

Don't we all, brother. @FullBloodArab had a cool idea to make getting pictures and measurements a little easier. Check it out!

Ultimately, I agree with you on NBP. Ultimately, only the visible penis counts. Having said that... I would strongly recommend using BP to measure progress because it will give you a much better idea of how effective your PE routine is. Check out this thread for more details there!

thanks for the tag

Dmoney I had the same problem and solved that with the chair. If you can't find that thread I'll look it up for you

 

[DLD]

Shoot, if I hit 8x5.5 I'd probably be done. It's just a mental thing for me. Every girl I've been with for the last 5 years has squirted, so obviously size isn't necessary. I just want that awe factor. I'm equally interested in flaccid gains just for the buldge

I said I would mentor you and that’s exactly what I’m doing. I don’t hope for these results I expect these results. It’s not overzealous nor is it unreasonable, in my opinion it’s a humble goal. So yes I know you’ll be able to do this. And as I told you keep it in the moment, in the day and never look back and always look forward. You’re going to make it because your success rests on my shoulders now LOL

 

[dmoney101]

I said I would mentor you and that’s exactly what I’m doing. I don’t hope for these results I expect these results. It’s not overzealous nor is it unreasonable, in my opinion it’s a humble goal. So yes I know you’ll be able to do this. And as I told you keep it in the moment, in the day and never look back and always look forward. You’re going to make it because your success rests on my shoulders now LOL

You've low key watched me grow up haha. I remember googling penis enlargement when I was 15, found a pdf about jelqing that included a routine very similar to the newbie routine. I followed that for a while which is one time I gained (but it also could've been my dick just growing as puberty continued on). Then I found your old DVD on some torrent site (sorry DLD ?) and that's how I wound up here at the age of 16. Good times lol

 

[dmoney101]

thanks for the tag

Dmoney I had the same problem and solved that with the chair. If you can't find that thread I'll look it up for you

Brawn Johnson linked a post of yours, but I've been drinking a bit tonight and it confused me lol. I'll have to come back to it clear minded ?

 

[DLD]

You've low key watched me grow up haha. I remember googling penis enlargement when I was 15, found a pdf about jelqing that included a routine very similar to the newbie routine. I followed that for a while which is one time I gained (but it also could've been my dick just growing as puberty continued on). Then I found your old DVD on some torrent site (sorry DLD ?) and that's how I wound up here at the age of 16. Good times

So I guess I’m kind a like your real daddy! Even though you did steal from me I forgive you LOL

 

[dmoney101]

So I guess I’m kind a like your real daddy! ❤ Even though you did steal from me I forgive you LOL

Hey, I never would've become a member if it wasn't for bootlegging lol. I'm taking a decon break for the moment. Do you think I should go back to the basic newbie routine, or keep my more complex one? I always wonder whether I'm overworking my dick or not working hard enough.

 

[DLD]

Hey, I never would've become a member if it wasn't for bootlegging LOL. I'm taking a decon break for the moment. Do you think I should go back to the basic newbie routine, or keep my more complex one? I always wonder whether I'm overworking my dick or not working hard enough.

That’s what lightning told me, that people who Jack the DVD usually end up on the forum LOL The beautiful thing is today the Paysite is free! No reason to steal any longer because were giving it away!

If you’re going to begin from scratch I always suggest spending a week or two on the Newbie routine. Whenever I decide to start to do PE again I will always start with the newbie routine and from there I start a cycle of SRT. So if that’s the case give yourself a week on the newbie routine and then go for your more hard-core Routine from there.

 

[dmoney101]

That’s what lightning told me, that people who Jack the DVD usually end up on the forum LOL The beautiful thing is today the Paysite is free! No reason to steal any longer because were giving it away!

If you’re going to begin from scratch I always suggest spending a week or two on the Newbie routine. Whenever I decide to start to do PE again I will always start with the newbie routine and from there I start a cycle of SRT. So if that’s the case give yourself a week on the newbie routine and then go for your more hard-core Routine from there.

Cool, I'll just start from scratch. I've been on break for 2 days now. How long should I decon for?

 

[DLD]

Cool, I'll just start from scratch. I've been on break for 2 days now. How long should I decon for?

Give yourself a couple more days. Try to get in some light massage and stretching over the next couple days and perhaps start on Wednesday. And once you write out exactly what you’re gonna do I’m gonna help you refine that.

 

[dmoney101]

Give yourself a couple more days. Try to get in some light massage and stretching over the next couple days and perhaps start on Wednesday. And once you write out exactly what you’re gonna do I’m gonna help you refine that.

I was doing bundled stretches in all directions, mandingo stretches, v stretches, a stretches, and probably a couple more. Should I keep those stretches or go all the way to basics?

 

[DLD]

I was doing bundled stretches in all directions, mandingo stretches, v stretches, a stretches, and probably a couple more. Should I keep those stretches or go all the way to basics?

No continue to do what you’re doing already. That’s pretty basic in my opinion a good reset routine. So carry-on will change things up when you’re ready

 

[huge-girth]

I've been at this shit like never before. 30+ min of girth a day (mostly clamping at that) and over and hour of stretching as hard as my arms will pull. It's had to have been over 4 months minimum, and nothing has changed. Every few weeks I up the intensity and still nothing. Starting to get pretty discouraged. Not that my dick is small or in embarrassed, but with all the work I've put in I should've seen some significant growth. I stick to all the strongest pulls we've discovered over the years on this forum and still nothing. Are some guys just meant to not grow?

Quit clamping and get yourself a mityvac. For length, get yourself a length master. Once you have these two devices, come in here and I will guide you to making gains. PE works 100%.