Newbie progress Start of my PE journey and adding supplements

92tmorgan said:
That makes a lot of sense. I like your analogy of the balloon.
And yeah I saw your journey and it hasn’t even been a year yet for you. Quite amazing but I also see you’ve put A LOT of work into PE. 3” erect gain and still more to go. I’d be beyond happy with 2” in a year. You’re definitely goals. Keep it up 👍🏻
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It becomes so easy if we think about our penis like a balloon. This is the reason you may or may not get the length you desire inside the cylinder when you start using a penis pump. Your penis expands in all directions like a balloon. 🎈

A recommendation is to keep everything simple and effective.

I became obsessed.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
It becomes so easy if we think about our penis like a balloon. This is the reason you may or may not get the length you desire inside the cylinder when you start using a penis pump. Your penis expands in all directions like a balloon. 🎈

A recommendation is to keep everything simple and effective.

I became obsessed.
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I did a study on this called "the penis is a balloon not a rope"
 
Here it is.

The Penis is a BALLOON not a ROPE

I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size...
mattersofsize.com mattersofsize.com
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Here it is.

The Penis is a BALLOON not a ROPE

I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size...
mattersofsize.com mattersofsize.com
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Wow, good read. Crazy that it’s from 20 years ago.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Here it is.

The Penis is a BALLOON not a ROPE

I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size...
mattersofsize.com mattersofsize.com
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Thanks 👍
 
colossaltitan said:
Welcome to the brotherhood pal! A suggestion I can make for you is to drop the l-arginine and replace it with L-citrulline as l-arginine is broken down in the kidneys before it can be absorbed by the body. And drop the collagen as there are multiple studies showing that it doesn't aid in collagen synthesis or anything for that matter.

Good luck! Some incredible girth you have there.
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Picked up some citrulline the other day. Thanks again man
 
Been a week and a day now since starting my PE journey. Starting to become obsessed with it. Doing 2 a days for the time being and added in BTC bundled stretching for 2 minutes at the end of length work. Then I do some girth work in the shower with the mityvac.

1. I’ve got a couple questions though. Once gains have been made are they permanent? Or will I lose them once I reach my goal and decide to stop doing PE. Is it like working out and you have to keep doing it or else you’ll verbally lose your gains?

2. What is the all around best stretch for gaining length the faster? Is it BTC bundled with the length master? And if so how do you create tension, do you pull down towards the ground and then towards your feet?
 
92tmorgan said:
Been a week and a day now since starting my PE journey. Starting to become obsessed with it. Doing 2 a days for the time being and added in BTC bundled stretching for 2 minutes at the end of length work. Then I do some girth work in the shower with the mityvac.

1. I’ve got a couple questions though. Once gains have been made are they permanent? Or will I lose them once I reach my goal and decide to stop doing PE. Is it like working out and you have to keep doing it or else you’ll verbally lose your gains?

2. What is the all around best stretch for gaining length the faster? Is it BTC bundled with the length master? And if so how do you create tension, do you pull down towards the ground and then towards your feet?
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Consistency will lead to permanent gains as new collagen is formed in the tunica tissue. Anecdotally people have found that the longer you have the gains the more permanent they become. However it is recomended that you do some maintenance to keep your penis healthy. So lets say you hang and pump 5 times a week, you'd go down to lets say 2 times a week.

Gaining length will be fastest with the lig stretches which are down and BTC stretches as ligaments are easier to stretch. Hanging or LM work will do both of those for you. They will also stretch the tunica tissue over time.
 
92tmorgan said:
Been a week and a day now since starting my PE journey. Starting to become obsessed with it. Doing 2 a days for the time being and added in BTC bundled stretching for 2 minutes at the end of length work. Then I do some girth work in the shower with the mityvac.

1. I’ve got a couple questions though. Once gains have been made are they permanent? Or will I lose them once I reach my goal and decide to stop doing PE. Is it like working out and you have to keep doing it or else you’ll verbally lose your gains?

2. What is the all around best stretch for gaining length the faster? Is it BTC bundled with the length master? And if so how do you create tension, do you pull down towards the ground and then towards your feet?
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Everything you need is in this thread.
🔗 SIM's videos and instructions.

5D-BTC-BS is the most powerful exercise for length gains.


Go 0.5 Inch past your end goal. Also doing bundled stretches will cement your length gains better. Because tunica albigunea are permanently stretched out and elongated more efficiently.
 
92tmorgan said:
Been a week and a day now since starting my PE journey. Starting to become obsessed with it. Doing 2 a days for the time being and added in BTC bundled stretching for 2 minutes at the end of length work. Then I do some girth work in the shower with the mityvac.

1. I’ve got a couple questions though. Once gains have been made are they permanent? Or will I lose them once I reach my goal and decide to stop doing PE. Is it like working out and you have to keep doing it or else you’ll verbally lose your gains?

2. What is the all around best stretch for gaining length the faster? Is it BTC bundled with the length master? And if so how do you create tension, do you pull down towards the ground and then towards your feet?
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You said you added 2 minutes of bundled stretching at the end of length work. If I understand correctly, you are currently doing the length master newbie routine for the first 30 days. It is a bundled routine. All the length master exercises are done in a bundled state.

If you gain 2.5 inches in length and then you stop PE completely, you will lose half inch. So go half inch passed your length goal.

For girth, once it's cemented, you don't lose anything.

Your second question, you are currently doing the newbie routine. All length master stretches works perfectly. They are all done in a bundled state.

After 30 days of doing the downward bundled stretches, you will change routine.

You have no worries.
 
colossaltitan said:
Consistency will lead to permanent gains as new collagen is formed in the tunica tissue. Anecdotally people have found that the longer you have the gains the more permanent they become. However it is recomended that you do some maintenance to keep your penis healthy. So lets say you hang and pump 5 times a week, you'd go down to lets say 2 times a week.

Gaining length will be fastest with the lig stretches which are down and BTC stretches as ligaments are easier to stretch. Hanging or LM work will do both of those for you. They will also stretch the tunica tissue over time.
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Great info to know. Thank you
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Everything you need is in this thread.
🔗 SIM's videos and instructions.

5D-BTC-BS is the most powerful exercise for length gains.


Go 0.5 Inch past your end goal. Also doing bundled stretches will cement your length gains better. Because tunica albigunea are permanently stretched out and elongated more efficiently.
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Okay going past my goal will help cement my actual goal. Makes sense. Thanks!
 
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huge-girth said:
You said you added 2 minutes of bundled stretching at the end of length work. If I understand correctly, you are currently doing the length master newbie routine for the first 30 days. It is a bundled routine. All the length master exercises are done in a bundled state.

If you gain 2.5 inches in length and then you stop PE completely, you will lose half inch. So go half inch passed your length goal.

For girth, once it's cemented, you don't lose anything.

Your second question, you are currently doing the newbie routine. All length master stretches works perfectly. They are all done in a bundled state.

After 30 days of doing the downward bundled stretches, you will change routine.

You have no worries.
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Hey boss man I think you misread what I said. I said I added BTC bundled stretches. I hadn’t been doing BTC stretches the first 5-6 days. Yes, I have been doing all my stretches bundled though. Only thing new I added is the Behind the Cheek.

Ok ok so go past my goal. Got it!

Have any of you gained any girth from doing bundled stretches with the length master?
 
92tmorgan said:
Hey boss man I think you misread what I said. I said I added BTC bundled stretches. I hadn’t been doing BTC stretches the first 5-6 days. Yes, I have been doing all my stretches bundled though. Only thing new I added is the Behind the Cheek.

Ok ok so go past my goal. Got it!

Have any of you gained any girth from doing bundled stretches with the length master?
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I understand now. Yes there is going to be some girth gains mostly at the base.
 
92tmorgan said:
Can definitely tell a difference in eq quality. I take a scoop before I pump and a scoop before my regular workout.

Took 2 days off from PE because of how sore my ligaments felt. Started back today and felt great.
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Awesome to hear!
 
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