Depression: have you suffered from it?
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Shithead said:i have experienced depression, now i see its a waste of time.
All depression apart from very serious cases is a choice, i choose not to get depressed.[/QUOT
In my experience all depressed people understand that it is a waste of time. I certainly did when I was bad but if you really are clinically depressed then it only goes to confound the problem. Shithead I believe that you may be confusing sadness with depression. Depression is a long term affliction whereas sadness is simply a short term thing, a part of life. I think people have an overall state of mind that fluctuates a bit from either being comparatively happy to being comparatively sad but depressed people are overall morose and can by no means simply decide one day to be OK, it's a lot stronger than that. I agree that over time as long as you don't allow yourself to fall into bad habits of thought then an improvement can be found but it is certainly not as easy as just saying 'Right, today I will be happy.'. It is a common misconception, usually held by those that have not experienced real depression, that you can choose not to be depressed. I have read many books on the subject and the general consensus is that the best treatment for depression is a combination of SS RI antidepressants and CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy). CBT actually consits of identifying negative patterns of thought and eradicating them but it is not a choice of any depressed person to be so.
For me the most helpful treatment has been my alkalanarian diet. I have enough energy to be happy at times and also enough to lead a normal life. I think that the main cause of depression is diet so in a sense it is people's choice whether they are depressed or not but indirectly, through diet. I have tryed all kinds of therapy and meds but this is the only thing that has helped. And it's helped a lot. For reference a really good and helpful book is 'The pH miracle' by Dr Young.
I went through a serious bout of depression in 2003 when my wife had an affair. Over a dozen years of marraige at that point and suddenly everything I thought was going well took a giant flush in the crapper. Now I've been taking lexapro which has helped but still dealing with the whole sexual "I'm not good/big enough thing" which is why I hang out at this wonderful site seeking a larger penis.... Thanks DLD
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Welcome to the forum jumpseat. Sad to hear about your wife. My parents split up after 20 years of marriage. My dad had an affair. My mum still finds life difficult but things are getting better. A had to physicaly hold her back from killing herself. My dad took no responsibility and it all seemed to come down on my head when I was only 14. My mum was an alchoholic so it was incredibly difficult. So I can understand a bit of what you went through and still are going through. That kind of thing can really be devastating.
One thing. You are good enough even without a massive penis, that is only an added bonus. If anything it is those that do not have the depth of character to be loyal that are not good enough. Fuck 'em!!
One thing. You are good enough even without a massive penis, that is only an added bonus. If anything it is those that do not have the depth of character to be loyal that are not good enough. Fuck 'em!!
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Shithead said:
I dont think its that fun, man...
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VladtheImpaler said:
I think he means in terms of those who don't want to stand on their own two feet and get off on the having the world feel sorry for them.
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kausion_420 said:
lol, yeah i get it now....i used to know this fucked up chick that used to fake attempt suicide and always fail.....she would come to school with cut marks on her wrists....
Then one time....i laughed for two days straight....She was gonna hang herself and jumped off her roof with a rope around her neck, forgot to tie it, and broke her fucking Leg....NO SHITTING HERE!!!!
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That's insane! .... I used to know someone who's mum died when he was about 15. One week after she died he tryed to kill himself by jumping off the roof of his house. He also broke a leg.
I suppose that wasn't funny....... more sad really. Either way the moral of both stories is quite simple. DON'T JUMP OFF YOUR ROOF!! EVEN IF YOU WANT TO KILL YOURSELF!!
I suppose that wasn't funny....... more sad really. Either way the moral of both stories is quite simple. DON'T JUMP OFF YOUR ROOF!! EVEN IF YOU WANT TO KILL YOURSELF!!
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TomdW said:
That is sad, really. If anyone has a legit reason to feel depressed, it would be a person whose mother has died. BUT, he should have had more common sense than try and jump off his roof!
There seems to be a trend of idiotic and failed suicide attempts going on... for example, I knew this kid who did a lot of stupid shit of this sort. I'm not sure if he even was trying to kill himself, or if he was just plain dumb, but the kid tried to stick a fork into an electric outlet, for one. Mild shock, hospital trip, all done. Well, he also tried jumping off the roof of his school (it was a rather flat building), and landed on his stomach, breaking a rib or two. Seriously, evolution should weed out people like him from the gene pool.
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For those who think its a choice, I actually inherited a chemical imbalance from my mom that causes depression, so its more than that. She's on medication, I'm not. I kind of refuse to take it, thinking that I should be strong enough to overcome it mentally, and sometimes I am...many times I'm not. Having shitty things happen in my life only makes it worse, like my recent breakup. The thing about true depression, is it seriously isolates you. What you need is for someone to slap you out of it, and bring you back to reality. But what ends up happening is, you get depressed, and isolate yourself, so it builds up, and has a kind of snowball effect until you either break out of it yourself or something else happens.
Many times I wake up depressed, and it takes me literally hours to get up. Its not that I'm not motivated, or am lazy, its just that, for some reason I physically and mentally can not get myself up. I sit there thinking I'm not good enough in this way, and that way...and then since I've dealt with this for so long start telling myself its bullshit and I know its just depression, so I need to get up and cut the bullshit. But since its a chemical thing in my brain, my body itself feels almost paralyzed, and I sit there fighting it for a long time. Sure, I've thought about killing myself, many many times...but each time I FORCE myself out of it.
That kind of depression isn't a choice, it just kind of happens to me. I'd like to think I'm strong enough to get rid of it, but am thinking about trying some medication out, just to see what its like to actually live like a normal human.
Many times I wake up depressed, and it takes me literally hours to get up. Its not that I'm not motivated, or am lazy, its just that, for some reason I physically and mentally can not get myself up. I sit there thinking I'm not good enough in this way, and that way...and then since I've dealt with this for so long start telling myself its bullshit and I know its just depression, so I need to get up and cut the bullshit. But since its a chemical thing in my brain, my body itself feels almost paralyzed, and I sit there fighting it for a long time. Sure, I've thought about killing myself, many many times...but each time I FORCE myself out of it.
That kind of depression isn't a choice, it just kind of happens to me. I'd like to think I'm strong enough to get rid of it, but am thinking about trying some medication out, just to see what its like to actually live like a normal human.
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but then again, some people actually like being depressed from journals i've read online and therefore, they end up craving attention.
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KiTTie8695 said:
Yes, there are lots of people who aren't really depressed, but rather looking for attention and a pat on the back to validate that they're special and unique for "being different" and "carrying the pain of the world on their shoulders". These people are for the most part unnecessarily psyching themselves up to feel down, if that makes any sense, since they get some level of pleasure from getting more attention while on their pedestal of phony depression. Such individuals are easy to recognize on internet forums and in real life: they are the ones who are the most vocal about their "suffering", and instead of turning all of it inward, they burden others with their constant need for attention and sympathy. I know too many angsty teenage girls who fit this category perfectly.
On the flip side of the coin, people who are truly depressed often become introverted and unwilling to share what they're going through with anyone. They may end up suffering with their condition for years before getting help, because they feel completely isolated from society and lose all hope for the future. Their depression can worsen to the point where it becomes impossible to "snap out of", even if some life changing positive experience or a turn for the better in all areas of life should occur. People at that stage can't enjoy their existance any longer. I know, I've been there, and I went through feeling that way for years. Hell, I didn't even know the exact definition of clinical depression back then; I just happened to realize one day that my life had felt totally meaningless and void of any pleasure for a long time. Back then I went to therapy, and my shrink was the first person who told me I was depressed. Someone needed to tell ME, since I had no clue about my own condition: I simply assumed that I had been sad for an unusually long period of time. I definitely wasn't complaining out loud or even sharing how I felt with anyone, and I still prefer to keep it to myself. Let this post be an exception.
Clinical depression is definitely not something that I would call enjoyable. I hunger for the feeling of being alive, but such a state feels totally unattainable at present. I've taken my fair share of antidepressants, too, and even though they lift your mood, they also make you numb, so I'm not going down that road again. I know I have a chemical imbalance (serotonin metabolism fucked up) to go along with the environmental and circumstantial triggers that control my depression, but I'd rather avoid having to turn myself into a zombie with the pills.
I don't CHOOSE to be depressed: when it happens it is out of my control, and I couldn't care less whether or not someone notices that I'm "sad, or down".
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Shafty said:
While reading this I had a picture of a Goth in my head....Why do they always look so sickly????
Yeah, my parents took me to a shrink and wanted me on meds when i was like 5 years old, nothing like being a toddler and having a stranger slamming the idea: "there is something wrong with your head" Into you....
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I have felt depression in mild forms over my very long life of 35 yrs starting when i was six....my brother died when i was 3 , when my grandmother died(i was 6) and thats when i realized he was gone for good.....but what i really am writing about is that my depressions are mild and what I would call "situational" my Hubby on the other hand seems to have a lifelong fight with depression..this is much different then the person who is living in a very egocentrical world ....his depression is from deep within....he grew up in an acoholic family and then more has happened...he cares deeply for those around him and would do anything for anybody but he still seems himself as a burden on everyone....its a mean circle, he feels useless and gets more depressed which everyone should know makes doing anything 10X as hard.....the energy it takes me to do the dishes for example and the energy it takes him are way different.....I can see what's there and what needs to be done in an orderly sesible way ..he just sees the mess and it takes him lots of concetration to sort things out.....I guess my point in writing this is JUST BECAUSE YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS, DOESN"T MEAN IT ISN"T !
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VladtheImpaler said:
Hydromaxm... i've always wondered that myself.. i think it might have something to do with the whole subculture crap. idk though. but other than that, i'm not sure of the real reason. i think they look madd cool though... not in the sickly way though lol
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KiTTie8695 said:
No!!!!....
No kittie, the last thing they look is Madd Cool :D :D :D
Only ever met one gothic that was anything to talk to....
You Are Encouraging THem!!!!
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VladtheImpaler said:
I've met some hot goth babes in my day, though.
These are usually the ones that stay true to their "style" even after they've passed beyond their teen years (as far as clothing, accessories and make-up is concerned, at any rate), but ditch the unsocial and sulky attitude. A goth chick that takes care of herself and is fun to be around can be quite a turn on.
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