Chemical PE + P Shot + Stretching

I would like to preface this post before I get castrated for posting an outrageous idea by saying I am a trained physician and specialize in sexual enhancement, anti-aging and hormone therapies. That being said I have direct access to any and all medications, peptides and supplements that are legally available in the US.

I have been experimenting with PE since I was 18 and have been lurking on these forums for quite a while and have read many of the threads on chemical PE. I have been looking into combining chemical PE (with tri-mix or super tri-mix) with the P-shot, stretching +/- pumping.

If I had to develop a routine now I would do something like this:
-P-shot twice a month
-Stretching 5-6 days per week with a device 4-6 hours per day in the morning/afternoon
-Super tri-mix injection 3-4 days per week in the evenings with topical DMSO & PABA.

My rationale behind this is that stretching is the foundation of any program, the microtears and healing can cause an increase in length and girth while the super tri-mix will cause forced priapism and further growth of the CC.The P-shot will allow the growth of new blood vessels and introduction of VEGF and other factors directly to the CC to promote healing and growth.

I am interested to see if anyone has combined any of these methods before, or anything similar, and what were your experiences and results like as well as any suggestions or thoughts.

I like your forward thinking. It will be interesting to get DLD's opinion.

Go_bigger said:

I would like to preface this post before I get castrated for posting an outrageous idea by saying I am a trained physician and specialize in sexual enhancement, anti-aging and hormone therapies. That being said I have direct access to any and all medications, peptides and supplements that are legally available in the US.

I have been experimenting with PE since I was 18 and have been lurking on these forums for quite a while and have read many of the threads on chemical PE. I have been looking into combining chemical PE (with tri-mix or super tri-mix) with the P-shot, stretching +/- pumping.

If I had to develop a routine now I would do something like this:
-P-shot twice a month
-Stretching 5-6 days per week with a device 4-6 hours per day in the morning/afternoon
-Super tri-mix injection 3-4 days per week in the evenings with topical DMSO & PABA.

My rationale behind this is that stretching is the foundation of any program, the microtears and healing can cause an increase in length and girth while the super tri-mix will cause forced priapism and further growth of the CC.The P-shot will allow the growth of new blood vessels and introduction of VEGF and other factors directly to the CC to promote healing and growth.

I am interested to see if anyone has combined any of these methods before, or anything similar, and what were your experiences and results like as well as any suggestions or thoughts.

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all of these methods have been used at one time or another and you would have to do some research to find them in the search engine. Controlled priapism is something that we have tried and no one has been able to make it work. In order for someone to get mega-phallus They would need to stay erect for days not hours. When I was doing this I went for four hours at a time and I got nothing out of it. So when I started to study priapism even more I realized that it truly does take days and in most cases then end up impotent. Some lucky men end up with a usable penis but in most cases it’s soft and not 100% erect. Shane diesel is a perfect example, he can never get 100% erect and he has sickle cell anemia. i’m very interested in what you’re doing and hope that you can come out with something that we have not thought of yet. I’m looking forward to your research and what you find.

Randomly saw your thread, and you are onto a direction that I am headed to. There is a patent already for something similar and I am working with other members in something similar too. Based on factors that are already proven, and putting them together as one therapy. I will need a conversation with you since I already tried something similar myself a few years ago with extreme success, and today we have the science to answer the angles that did not work.

DLD said:

all of these methods have been used at one time or another and you would have to do some research to find them in the search engine. Controlled priapism is something that we have tried and no one has been able to make it work. In order for someone to get mega-phallus They would need to stay erect for days not hours. When I was doing this I went for four hours at a time and I got nothing out of it. So when I started to study priapism even more I realized that it truly does take days and in most cases then end up impotent. Some lucky men end up with a usable penis but in most cases it’s soft and not 100% erect. Shane diesel is a perfect example, he can never get 100% erect and he has sickle cell anemia. i’m very interested in what you’re doing and hope that you can come out with something that we have not thought of yet. I’m looking forward to your research and what you find.

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My friend, you are absolutely correct with the risk of ED. In fact, that is a huge question mark present in our world. How far we can grow our penises before we dont have enough blood to fill up a proper erection. That is a risk, and unknown.

Now in regards to the priapism part, I am not familiar how it was tried here, but there are few details. First, a natural erection will do nothing for growth. Wether somebody can naturally keep an erection for 5-7 hours at a time, or is it induced by PDE-5 inhibitors, there will be no results from that. Now, if you add a Prostaglandin or a synthetic vasodilator such as Papaverine, that is a different story. Now you are forcing an erection at higher pressure than normal. Now, if you put those tissues under stress and fill them up with plasma rich platelets, its a whole different world.

In my case, I induced controlled priapism almost every day for some 4-6 hours, while pumping and stretching on a traction device and my girth skyrocketed from 5.2" to 6.25" in a span of a year. Why girth and not length? The septum.

There is a patent already in existence for several years, but there is a couple of new scientific approaches for this, one based in Canada, another I believe its California. I have been working on this for some time too, I could try it if I could buy the equipment right now, but I have plenty of confidence that this approach, complemented with other chemicals can produce Godly gains.

Jackxxx said:

My friend, you are absolutely correct with the risk of ED. In fact, that is a huge question mark present in our world. How far we can grow our penises before we dont have enough blood to fill up a proper erection. That is a risk, and unknown.

Now in regards to the priapism part, I am not familiar how it was tried here, but there are few details. First, a natural erection will do nothing for growth. Wether somebody can naturally keep an erection for 5-7 hours at a time, or is it induced by PDE-5 inhibitors, there will be no results from that. Now, if you add a Prostaglandin or a synthetic vasodilator such as Papaverine, that is a different story. Now you are forcing an erection at higher pressure than normal. Now, if you put those tissues under stress and fill them up with plasma rich platelets, its a whole different world.

In my case, I induced controlled priapism almost every day for some 4-6 hours, while pumping and stretching on a traction device and my girth skyrocketed from 5.2" to 6.25" in a span of a year. Why girth and not length? The septum.

There is a patent already in existence for several years, but there is a couple of new scientific approaches for this, one based in Canada, another I believe its California. I have been working on this for some time too, I could try it if I could buy the equipment right now, but I have plenty of confidence that this approach, complemented with other chemicals can produce Godly gains.

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Can you provide a link to the "scientific approaches" in Canada?

JuanGalt said:

Can you provide a link to the "scientific approaches" in Canada?

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BTW, I mentioned another team working in California for this, that team is being led by Dr. Runels, the inventor of the Priapus shot. He is experimenting on a treatment comprised of the P-shot plus controlled priapism induced by vasodilators and other peptides for growth.

Jackxxx said:

My friend, you are absolutely correct with the risk of ED. In fact, that is a huge question mark present in our world. How far we can grow our penises before we dont have enough blood to fill up a proper erection. That is a risk, and unknown.

Now in regards to the priapism part, I am not familiar how it was tried here, but there are few details. First, a natural erection will do nothing for growth. Wether somebody can naturally keep an erection for 5-7 hours at a time, or is it induced by PDE-5 inhibitors, there will be no results from that. Now, if you add a Prostaglandin or a synthetic vasodilator such as Papaverine, that is a different story. Now you are forcing an erection at higher pressure than normal. Now, if you put those tissues under stress and fill them up with plasma rich platelets, its a whole different world.

In my case, I induced controlled priapism almost every day for some 4-6 hours, while pumping and stretching on a traction device and my girth skyrocketed from 5.2" to 6.25" in a span of a year. Why girth and not length? The septum.

There is a patent already in existence for several years, but there is a couple of new scientific approaches for this, one based in Canada, another I believe its California. I have been working on this for some time too, I could try it if I could buy the equipment right now, but I have plenty of confidence that this approach, complemented with other chemicals can produce Godly gains.

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That sounds very cool you might want to work with lightning he is the man that can find anything and can create anything. He is brilliant

Jackxxx said:

Analytics for US Patent No. 7671091, Penis enlargement

A method for causing a permanent increase in the length and girth of a male subject's penis, the method comprising treatment comprising the

www.patentbuddy.com

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Thanks, man!

I love it, bring on the scientific advancement for incredible pe gains...!

Dude, this shit is NUTS! I love it..I noticed a huge benefit in vasodialators just through the herbal world. This sounds crazy..Injecting platelets in your cack..Is this expensive and like unobtanium for regular people?

10 TON PONNISH said:

Dude, this shit is NUTS! I love it..I noticed a huge benefit in vasodialators just through the herbal world. This sounds crazy..Injecting platelets in your cack..Is this expensive and like unobtanium for regular people?

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What herbal vasodilators do you take?

JuanGalt said:

What herbal vasodilators do you take?

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Can anyone provide a list of what they have used and have had success with? Or a list we can pick and choose to use in our private routines?

@Lightning check this out

JuanGalt said:

What herbal vasodilators do you take?

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Sure..
Tonkat Ali 10%
Yohimbine
Rhodiola Crenulata
Rhodiola Rosea
Damiana(sublingual)
Agmatine
Citruline
Maca
Tribulus
Panax Ginseng
Ginko
Catauba
Beet root
Shilijat
Cayan

In order of effectiveness for me personally..i cycle them to constantly keep them effective. Horney Goat Weed oddly enough, doesn't do shit for me..I also use glutamine, l-lysine, d-aspartic acid, creatine, pumpkin seed oil, vitamine D3, K2, C,E magnesium,zinc,iron,potassium, b-complex, omega 3,6,9 and collagen for tissue repair and stay up on protein...there are many more I take...to many to list. They all keep my junk in a constant state of pumped and fed repair nutrients. Jelqs,squashes,horse squeezes...Amazing...almost too much at times. Red Meng Da Kratom at 1 gram, will kill the head sensitivity for long eff sessions to keep from blowing to fast. That yohimbine is no joke man..my dick gets so hard, the skin feels like it's going to burst..tonkat, turns you into a bull..major libido, test boost, animalistic at times..the Rhodiolas both verieties, give good pump and insane 20 year old stamina, but particularly the Crenulata..i didn't mention argenine as citrulline converts to it at a much more prolonged rate, giving longer results..which then converts to Agmatine, so I'll usually go right for the Agmatine over citrulline or argenine. The Damiana will put your cock and balls ON FIRE...probably the most powerful Aphrodesiac properties of the bunch. When I take it, I gotta fuck...NOW..all supps have to be of HIGH QUALITY..I've tried them all from a few sources and quality totally matters..those first 4, hit it and get it. Take note, serious blood boosters. You got a weak heart, don't do it..talk to your Dr. Now go blow up your dick....

@10 TON PONNISH Good list man! Ive tried them all too. And usually stay always on a few, cycle, rotate them, plus just like you I supplement myself with countless more nutrients and herbs. Interesting what you mention about horny goat weed, currently is not doing shit for me. And I say currently because I have noticed that some supplements work for a while, then they stop and vice versa with others. Horny goat used to make me horny like a fucking pervert. Honestly, to the point that is too much libido to handle. That urge feeling to grab a woman and just fuck like an animal. But today, it does nothing to me. Another one is not currently working for me is Tonkat Ali. And I just tried the Sumatra Pasak Bumi 200:1 that is supposed to be the most purest strongest form. In the same way, some herbs the whole herb works better rathe than the extract. It seems like for some of them there is a synergy with the bioflavonoid and all those components, just kick others the tincture works better than the powder.

How much yohimbine do you take? I assume you have the 2%. I haven't tried yohimbine in a while, but is an extract very well researched and documented. Specially for women, it turns them into insatiable nymphomaniacs. One time I overdosed yohimbine many years ago and thought my heart was going to explode LOL. However, the effects on my dick were magical. My dick got hard out of nowhere and extremely sensitive like if with a few strokes I would cum. But again the side effects were scary. I think 3mg is enough?

Jackxxx said:

@10 TON PONNISH Good list man! Ive tried them all too. And usually stay always on a few, cycle, rotate them, plus just like you I supplement myself with countless more nutrients and herbs. Interesting what you mention about horny goat weed, currently is not doing shit for me. And I say currently because I have noticed that some supplements work for a while, then they stop and vice versa with others. Horny goat used to make me horny like a fucking pervert. Honestly, to the point that is too much libido to handle. That urge feeling to grab a woman and just fuck like an animal. But today, it does nothing to me. Another one is not currently working for me is Tonkat Ali. And I just tried the Sumatra Pasak Bumi 200:1 that is supposed to be the most purest strongest form. In the same way, some herbs the whole herb works better rathe than the extract. It seems like for some of them there is a synergy with the bioflavonoid and all those components, just kick others the tincture works better than the powder.

How much yohimbine do you take? I assume you have the 2%. I haven't tried yohimbine in a while, but is an extract very well researched and documented. Specially for women, it turns them into insatiable nymphomaniacs. One time I overdosed yohimbine many years ago and thought my heart was going to explode LOL. However, the effects on my dick were magical. My dick got hard out of nowhere and extremely sensitive like if with a few strokes I would cum. But again the side effects were scary. I think 3mg is enough?

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Thanks bro. I have the correct sources now where my top 4, always deliver. I am fortunate that I don't build tolerance fast. In most cases I've found, almost none. The Tongkat was tricky. I used a few sources before landing on my jackpot. I stay so wang jacked all the time, bouncing from 1 herb to the next, day to day for training purposes, my top 4 are really only introduced, a few hours before play time and only 1 at a time..sometimes I'll stack one of my lesser herbs with one of my primaries just for a little extra kick but rare. I use the yohimbine at 2% just as you suspected. I can eat 1 in the morning, get a 3 mile walk in, work all day, lift at night and bang like my ass has flames shooting out if it at 10 at night. Crazy shit for me that tree bark is...i ballance it out with l-theanine for the exploding heart, jitter conundrum. Smoothes that out completely for me...Rhodiola Crenulata gives me the exact same results. Less interference with my ticker. No theanine needed..bump that with some flushing niacin, half hour before?? God mode..of course, I usually have some other stack burning in the background..i really have crazy stacks for just about every one of lifes situations..need itensity? I got it. Need to be socially excellent, I got it. Need to be mellow? Yup, covered..i have a lot of reprogramming going on constantly. Its been life changing, playing with all this shit just growing everywhere on the earth.

My secret weapon has been Serapeptase for eating scar tissue, clearing tiny dick veins and arteries along with natokinase..1-2 punch for dick healing, keeping that dude long and supple..healing with very little damage. My inner dick feels as soft and pliable as it did 2 inches ago..

Go_bigger said:

I would like to preface this post before I get castrated for posting an outrageous idea by saying I am a trained physician and specialize in sexual enhancement, anti-aging and hormone therapies. That being said I have direct access to any and all medications, peptides and supplements that are legally available in the US.

I have been experimenting with PE since I was 18 and have been lurking on these forums for quite a while and have read many of the threads on chemical PE. I have been looking into combining chemical PE (with tri-mix or super tri-mix) with the P-shot, stretching +/- pumping.

If I had to develop a routine now I would do something like this:
-P-shot twice a month
-Stretching 5-6 days per week with a device 4-6 hours per day in the morning/afternoon
-Super tri-mix injection 3-4 days per week in the evenings with topical DMSO & PABA.

My rationale behind this is that stretching is the foundation of any program, the microtears and healing can cause an increase in length and girth while the super tri-mix will cause forced priapism and further growth of the CC.The P-shot will allow the growth of new blood vessels and introduction of VEGF and other factors directly to the CC to promote healing and growth.

I am interested to see if anyone has combined any of these methods before, or anything similar, and what were your experiences and results like as well as any suggestions or thoughts.

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I’m super interested in hearing more about this, please keep us posted!!

10 TON PONNISH said:

Thanks bro. I have the correct sources now where my top 4, always deliver. I am fortunate that I don't build tolerance fast. In most cases I've found, almost none. The Tongkat was tricky. I used a few sources before landing on my jackpot. I stay so wang jacked all the time, bouncing from 1 herb to the next, day to day for training purposes, my top 4 are really only introduced, a few hours before play time and only 1 at a time..sometimes I'll stack one of my lesser herbs with one of my primaries just for a little extra kick but rare. I use the yohimbine at 2% just as you suspected. I can eat 1 in the morning, get a 3 mile walk in, work all day, lift at night and bang like my ass has flames shooting out if it at 10 at night. Crazy shit for me that tree bark is...i ballance it out with l-theanine for the exploding heart, jitter conundrum. Smoothes that out completely for me...Rhodiola Crenulata gives me the exact same results. Less interference with my ticker. No theanine needed..bump that with some flushing niacin, half hour before?? God mode..of course, I usually have some other stack burning in the background..i really have crazy stacks for just about every one of lifes situations..need itensity? I got it. Need to be socially excellent, I got it. Need to be mellow? Yup, covered..i have a lot of reprogramming going on constantly. Its been life changing, playing with all this shit just growing everywhere on the earth.

My secret weapon has been Serapeptase for eating scar tissue, clearing tiny dick veins and arteries along with natokinase..1-2 punch for dick healing, keeping that dude long and supple..healing with very little damage. My inner dick feels as soft and pliable as it did 2 inches ago..

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You rub the serapeptase on or consume it?