walkingmoon;519165 said:People's nature is not monogamous.
People are not honest with each other.
People are afraid of loosing what they have now and keep it just in case new relationship won't work out. Think of especially women, usually they only break up when they know for sure they have a new boyfriend already.
People stay with people just for money and still need a big cock for example or hardcore sex or whatever the desire might be.
AdmiralLongDong;519379 said:There is the conquering new turf factor. It is fun and exciting to bang and claim new pussy. It's a very narcissistic thing to do.
neckercube;519493 said:Peruano, I have a positive opinion about open relationships in regards to satisfying us emotionally and sexually.
People still might want some strong kind of partnership to raise a family I believe, but it need not be marriage.
To me the only reasons these kinds of relationships haven't been accepted is because people strongly believe in what society showed them a relationship should look like, they have FEAR of what others will THINK of them if they themselves were in such a relationship, and they have an intense jealousy that exhibits itself in several ways, mostly through not wanting to see others enjoy the same kind of relationship with someone they like, but also seeing third parties do this.
As for why people cheat, I can only guess it is because they want to be with someone different. Variety is a good thing in my opinion in nearly all facets of life. I hate to use a food analogy, but it works. If you try a another style of your favorite dish, even if it turns out to not be as good, you will still enjoy it, and chances are you will enjoy your favorite dish even more the next time you have it. When we don't allow ourselves or our partners to be open about who we befriend or get intimate with, and make ourselves afraid of being honest about how we feel, why then do we expect our relationships to not become dishonest?
There are more complex reasons for specific examples but I think that the want of a variety of emotional and sexual relationships is the main reason.
MAXAMEYES;519752 said:The number of reasons is equal to the number of people. And just as varied.
True love is not disrespectful...rakas;519751 said:...I've never understood how you can claim to love somebody and cheat or be in an open relationship, i view that as a rejection of love from/to you/her.
Threak-X;520201 said:True love is not disrespectful...
Actually, I view it differently, she has enough commitment to you, respect for you, and trust in you to communicate her sexual desires/needs instead of going behind your back. It's hurtful to hear, but the emotional/mental pain isn't as severe as if you found out after the fact. Personally, I would explore her missing needs and reasons for seeking out another man sexually. Communication is one key factor in a healthy relationship, letting each other know what is going on inside.rakas;520256 said:But thats the point, for my wife to ask if she can sleep with another man i would view as a rejection/i'm not good enough to satisfy her myself, equally for her to let me i would view as she did not care enough.
Threak-X;520272 said:Actually, I view it differently, she has enough commitment to you, respect for you, and trust in you to communicate her sexual desires/needs instead of going behind your back. It's hurtful to hear, but the emotional/mental pain isn't as severe as if you found out after the fact. Personally, I would explore her missing needs and reasons for seeking out another man sexually. Communication is one key factor in a healthy relationship, letting each other know what is going on inside.
I'm not one to judge a person's choice of consensual sexual life-style, nor am I one to deny my significant other her happiness of choices, but it doesn't mean I have to like it and live with it. The choices one makes affect the others in a relationship and should be up for discussion from all parties involved before making a finally decision. This allows everyone to have a choice in the matter affecting the relationship and the possible outcome(s) from it.
Threak-X;520272 said:Actually, I view it differently, she has enough commitment to you, respect for you, and trust in you to communicate her sexual desires/needs instead of going behind your back. It's hurtful to hear, but the emotional/mental pain isn't as severe as if you found out after the fact. Personally, I would explore her missing needs and reasons for seeking out another man sexually. Communication is one key factor in a healthy relationship, letting each other know what is going on inside.
I'm not one to judge a person's choice of consensual sexual life-style, nor am I one to deny my significant other her happiness of choices, but it doesn't mean I have to like it and live with it. The choices one makes affect the others in a relationship and should be up for discussion from all parties involved before making a finally decision. This allows everyone to have a choice in the matter affecting the relationship and the possible outcome(s) from it.
rakas;520339 said:I have no issue with the communication of such desires be it saying that she wants something kinky or even that she fancies the ass off somebody but to actually act on a desire to have intercourse with somebody else takes it a step too far and i couldn't ever see myself in a position where i would willingly accept my mate having sex with another guy. I also don't see why it should be discussed as a practical outcome, if a girl was to ask me if she could have sex elsewhere, i would quite simply say "not a chance".
MAXAMEYES;520418 said:A whole lot depends on the mutual expectations each brought into the relationship, and how freely they were expressed.
rakas;520339 said:I have no issue with the communication of such desires be it saying that she wants something kinky or even that she fancies the ass off somebody but to actually act on a desire to have intercourse with somebody else takes it a step too far and i couldn't ever see myself in a position where i would willingly accept my mate having sex with another guy. I also don't see why it should be discussed as a practical outcome, if a girl was to ask me if she could have sex elsewhere, i would quite simply say "not a chance".
rebel2011;520443 said:....I mean don't you want your lover to have the most pleasure out of life?
MikeShlort;520447 said:No. I want her there to cook my meals, clean my skid marks, paint the house, bring me a beer and let me unload my balls in her holes. And if she cheats, I'll beat her like a cop beats a minority.
rakas you are entitled to the type of relationship you want to fulfill your happiness as well as your mate/spouse. You're open to the communication of it, but under no circumstances open to the actual act of it, fair enough. If she has no respect (love) for your wishes, concerns, she will commit infidelity whether you know about it or not. The communication is important because everyone should be aware of the possible negative outcome/affect to the relationship. Ultimately, the decision is hers, rationally discussing your side with her about your feelings, reasons, and consequences to the relationship gives her more to make an informative decision. Also, it allows you have a choice to live with it or not if she goes through with it. You shouldn't deny her of happiness, you have to trust her to enough to make the right decision for the relationship. These are the testing/trying times to a relationship that will either create a stronger bond working through it or dissolve the bond down to nothing.rakas;520339 said:I have no issue with the communication of such desires be it saying that she wants something kinky or even that she fancies the ass off somebody but to actually act on a desire to have intercourse with somebody else takes it a step too far and i couldn't ever see myself in a position where i would willingly accept my mate having sex with another guy. I also don't see why it should be discussed as a practical outcome, if a girl was to ask me if she could have sex elsewhere, i would quite simply say "not a chance".
She sounds like a Truck-Driver's Dream Woman, especially making her paint the house when you're on the road. (LoL)MikeShlort;520447 said:No. I want her there to cook my meals, clean my skid marks, paint the house, bring me a beer and let me unload my balls in her holes. And if she cheats, I'll beat her like a cop beats a minority.
rebel2011;520443 said:I feel it is a pride thing more than a love or trust issue. If you can't give a woman the pleasure she could have then why would you deprive someone you love of experiencing better sex? That's like saying you can't eat pizza hut because your wife cooked a crappy meal. IMO having open communication about lacking sex life could save more relationships than hurt.
It is human nature to want different partners. If its from not knowing what sex with a different person is like or just having a sexual preference that the person can't or won't fill. I'm not saying anyone should have sex with somoen other than their partner but if you truely loved them it would be better than actually getting cheated on or being dumped.
There would be huge repercussions to letting someone into a relationship sexually and I don't think you could ever understand until it happens. You would have to have an enormous amount of trust but in theory it could work....I mean don't you want your lover to have the most pleasure out of life?
^ No Lot LizardsThreak-X;520454 said:She sounds like a Truck-Driver's Dream Woman, especially making her paint the house when you're on the road. (LoL)
neognostic couples are not in love 100% of the time in any relationship. A person's preferences, views, and so on change over time, sometimes, not in the same direction within the relationship. If you're stating the emotional connection is dropped below the sexual desire tier, then, the action is some type of mask to avoid a deeper issue. This action will damage the emotional connection and the relationship will become dysfunctional eventually if left untreated. Unhealthy, as you experienced from being the 2nd man in the relationship.neognostic;520290 said:Or you could say that she's selfish enough to try to get you to change into something you aren't since she wants something (sex) that is, in fact, rejecting in its behavior if not its intended effect (which is to get sex, let's be honest). For a woman to tell you such a thing isn't an indication of some deep emotional connection. It's putting the so called deep emotional connection on a tier below sexual desire. I've been the second man in such relationships and let me tell you that there was some deep pathology at work there and lots of co-dependence on the part of the couple but there wasn't what I would call a deep and healthy emotional connection.
With deep emotional connections people grow into one another, not apart. Do some people have perfectly happy marriages/relationships based on open sexuality? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's because of some vast personal enlightenment they've attained. Quite the contrary in my opinion.
hepcat;520483 said:MikeSchlort, I would love to hear your opinions about this course of action. It seems it would go with your line of thinking. I mean do you think if I started calling bitches bitches to their face it would produce better results or would I just have to knock them down a peg or two some other way? I'm talking about never taking them out to eat anywhere (at least anywhere with decent food or decor), never by them any gifts, tell them to do shit for me that I should be doing for myself, treating them like a piece of meat, etc... Care to give your thoughts on the aforementioned?
Threak-X;520482 said:neognostic couples are not in love 100% of the time in any relationship. A person's preferences, views, and so on change over time, sometimes, not in the same direction within the relationship. If you're stating the emotional connection is dropped below the sexual desire tier, then, the action is some type of mask to avoid a deeper issue. This action will damage the emotional connection and the relationship will become dysfunctional eventually if left untreated. Unhealthy, as you experienced from being the 2nd man in the relationship.
hepcat what you are describing is assertive, confident, decisive type man which women love, without all the added negativity. Could you image growing up watching your Mother being treated the way you described in your quote by your Father. Both Dre and Snoop are married with children, you think they treat the Mother of their children like "Bitches ain't shit but ho's and tricks"? All that is a facade, an image to sell records. Treat a woman with respect but don't place her on a pedestal, unless you want to look up her dress (pervert). Anyways, MikeShlort has it right, don't make yourself easily available to the woman. A good woman doesn't like a man she can easily get and control all the time. Also, MikeShlort is saying make the woman's experience fun with you, memorable, be humorous without being overly offensive. Basically, to keep things simple in the beginning and build the connection first before making any major emotional, financial, or physical investments with her.hepcat;520483 said:MikeSchlort, I would love to hear your opinions about this course of action. It seems it would go with your line of thinking. I mean do you think if I started calling bitches bitches to their face it would produce better results or would I just have to knock them down a peg or two some other way? I'm talking about never taking them out to eat anywhere (at least anywhere with decent food or decor), never by them any gifts, tell them to do shit for me that I should be doing for myself, treating them like a piece of meat, etc... Care to give your thoughts on the aforementioned?
hepcat the same way they made in the Entertainmant Business, being assertive, confident, decisive and relentless.hepcat;521027 said:I know Dre and Snoop are both married with kids, but how did they get their women at the start. That's the point I was trying to make.
hepcat;521045 said:Maybe there's some logic to that.
hepcat;521247 said:I'm at a loss. Sometimes I feel I don't know anything about humans whatsoever.
hepcat;521261 said:I'm still hoping for a revelation but it is a long time coming. I try to stay optimistic.
hepcat;521027 said:I know Dre and Snoop are both married with kids, but how did they get their women at the start. That's the point I was trying to make.