What's up with the little monkey?

Should we ban censorship?

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Why the censorship? In the information age wouldn't it be better to be able to more effectively share information. How many threads are linked to golden nuggets on other forums? Hell even mentioning other forums' names are treated as if we're mentioning Voldemort. Would be cool if this was done away with.

My thing is other pe forums have their own culture and their own pearls of wisdom. For better or worse. There are people that don't post here but what they say could positively benefit those here and help spread knowledge. Instead of typing out lengthy responses I can just link to the thread. For whatever reasons censorship sounded like a good idea I'm requesting it to be reevaluated.
 
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Why the censorship? In the information age wouldn't it be better to be able to more effectively share information. How many threads are linked to golden nuggets on other forums? Hell even mentioning other forums' names are treated as if we're mentioning Voldemort. Would be cool if this was done away with.

My thing is other pe forums have their own culture and their own pearls of wisdom. For better or worse. There are people that don't post here but what they say could positively benefit those here and help spread knowledge. Instead of typing out lengthy responses I can just link to the thread. For whatever reasons censorship sounded like a good idea I'm requesting it to be reevaluated.

I do not think it was done for that reason. @Lightning can explain better than I can but it had to do with google and ranking.
 
I think it was more of a matter regards to giving rival sites more free advertising on here, because MOS is a business, nothing wrong with that, and by having some of these other pe sites being mentioned doesn't help.

Also the history with regards to MOS being censored on at least one site, incl strategic editing of DLDs old threads residing at that site.

It should be a case where we can all be happy with each other, help with the sites working as one, but that's not the case.

Powers that be here, correct me if I'm wrong, but it was down as a business decision.

You can always quote the source, name the thread or post starter.
 
I understand that do but MOS's unmoderated platform is what drew me here in the first place, especially compared to thu nders back in the day. So it wasn't that MOS did something similar to the other sites but that it was different and allowed freedom here. Now it just seems heavily censored and would make the sharing of information easier.
 
MOS forums give great relief n support, I have checked other forums n didn't stay other PE forums around aren't as useful helpful etc, thousands of people around the world have learned about PE here, they are a "blessing"for most men.
 
I'm not detracting any of the positives that this site offers but I'm not foolish enough to believe that this site is the only site that has members that come up with good ideas. The censorship is lame plain and simple and is currently the only site that bans even the mention of other sites.
 
I'm not detracting any of the positives that this site offers but I'm not foolish enough to believe that this site is the only site that has members that come up with good ideas. The censorship is lame plain and simple and is currently the only site that bans even the mention of other sites.

They can join our family and take part in everything we do but I’m not going to promote other forums that take shots at us daily. If they want the instruction of the best of the best in the PE game they need to come here. Now on your point about sharing information, that’s fine copy and paste information and give credit to the author, I’m not trying to censor information I’m simply censoring the names of forums that do nothing but disrespect us.
 
I understand both sides, as @REDZULU2003 mentioned MoS is a business for them and they don't want to push/boost their rivals.
But on the other side and this is actually what happens often is that when you ban sites, people will go to the other site and create an user over there too, to read their golden nuggets and search for the threads which had been censored here.
So instead them just clicking on a few links which are shared here and posted as golden nuggets, they'll maybe go over there and create an user on your rival platform, search for golden nuggets and threads which had been mentioned here and will maybe even start discussing at the other platform in the original thread about that topic, because it was banned here.

That's just my POV on this, as you're the owners of the forum, you set the rules. But I don't think that people would support the other forums just when a link is shared. Lots of us would be even more loyal because you're giving this freedom out.
And having freedom is always showing power and self-confidence. I don't think somebody who wants to buy a new device goes to the other platform then and buys it via their aff. link or from their site.

@DLD @Lightning @REDZULU2003
Maybe you could create a welcome message when people register at the MoS site and write something that you're an independent forum and to keep it alive it would be awesome if member support you by buying through your affiliate links/shop.
I think lots of us are very thankful for all this knowledge and help of the forum, so it definitely would be very stupid if people explicit going to another forum and buying via their buying link. I don't think people are that bad or want to threat MoS so bad, especially because you're helping the people so much and @DLD comes online every single day and invests a couple hours to answer all the questions he's being asked or where he had been tagged + private messages.


Maybe you could do a split test for 1-2 months if your business allows that, do the thing with the welcome message and unban the links.
Check the sales volume and then compare it to the 1-2 months before. I really would recommend you something like a welcome message as it's very personal and new people would love to be warm-welcomed (beside DLDs Newbie welcome threads).
In that one you could welcome them, write in the thing with the independet forum and that if they'd support your forum by buying via your links, you would be very thankful and can keep your business running, do more giveaways and so on and so on.
It doesn't harm people when they're buying via your link, very often they even get a discount or bonus. The problem with nowadays marketing and advertising time-age is just that lots of people are feared. Maybe you could take the fear away from them, do the thing with the welcome message and think about stopping the censorship.
I'd even think lots of other people from the other forums would come around here just because of this, cause as @longstretch said, an independet forum was one of the reasons why he registered here + it shows the power of freedom of knowledge.

As said, just my point of view, the decisions are made by you as the owners.
But anyways, would really recommend you the thing with the automatic welcome message for new users :)
 
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Okay, let's squash it now. As stated, there is a wealth of knowledge out there, even though it is eclipsed by EGO at other sites. Look past it, and BETTER YOURSELVES THROUGH POSITIVE MOTIVATION!
 
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I gathered knowledge as a lurker for the first few years of my on/off journey. This helped me to understand the workings, and I applied what I have learned to my current devices and routine.
 
Like already stated above, I truly love the fact that there are no "moderators" here. That title always creates a false sense of authority, making people feel as if they now have a badge, gun, and more knowledge of the art and science than those without a title.
 
Great decision...The cream always rises to the top and MOS has taken a healthy step in the direction of PE and the sharing of information for us to become the total package.

Another reason why MOS' motto needs to be..."We do it better."

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Everything you could possibly want is in this forum if you want to add to the form from other PE so it’s simply copy and paste the information into a new thread. Be sure to give credit to the user that wrote it.
 
Obviously, censorship is signing the death note of a nation.
Online censorship is the same, lets be honest the leftist technocracy already a nearly complete stranglehold on whats accessible these days. They've monopolized everything. And they absolutely play favouritism, especially to those who follow their rules. Its unfortunate, because their rules do not benefit any of us. They hurt us.
 
Ah jeez....

Money rules.. no matter which direction it faces. Big head to the left, right, front or back... it's voice will thunder and move mountains away from our reaches. Exit, and it rules NOTHING.

I'll be at the summit, waiting for my climbing mates....
 
Ah jeez....

Money rules.. no matter which direction it faces. Big head to the left, right, front or back... it's voice will thunder and move mountains away from our reaches. Exit, and it rules NOTHING.

I'll be at the summit, waiting for my climbing mates....

I would never censor anyone even when they talk shit about me. I anyone’s post to stand as long as it is within our guidelines. The reason we do not allow the names of other forums on here is because they are our enemy. All they do is talk shit about the forum and steal our work. So the monkey has nothing to do with censorship has everything to do with having respect for the worlds biggest PE brotherhood. And anyone that knows me knows damn well that I have never censored one thing ever.
 
I would never censor anyone even when they talk shit about me. I anyone’s post to stand as long as it is within our guidelines. The reason we do not allow the names of other forums on here is because they are our enemy. All they do is talk shit about the forum and steal our work. So the monkey has nothing to do with censorship has everything to do with having respect for the worlds biggest PE brotherhood. And anyone that knows me knows damn well that I have never censored one thing ever.
Oh, was this about MOS?? i thought we were having a general conversation about how google is fucking everyone. I didnt know it was strictly related.
 
Google owns the fucking Internet. .. so crazy man. From search engine to master of all online information. Amazon as well.. bookstore to the richest in the world. Wtf... this shit is getting out of hand.

And here WE are.... pulling on, and slapping our dicks around. ???
 
The reason we do not allow the names of other forums on here is because they are our enemy. All they do is talk shit about the forum and steal our work.

I don’t mean it wrong DLD but you may want to go a bit easy on the above.
I know for a fact that people like myself (and a number of others that I won’t name outta respect for their privacy) advertising your products on those evil sites have brought you sales and new members.

Speaking for myself, I do it because I know the tools can help others.
I thought that was the point of the forums, share info and help each other out.
 
It's all good.

I lurked the others, couch surfing until I found the most comfortable place to lay my head and call HOME. D has his reasons, and it seems the wound hasn't completely callused over from whatever happened. He isn't speaking ill of the members, I'm sure. It is those that run the show. They really are about aesthetics, and no substance. The members bring that.
 
They can join our family and take part in everything we do but I’m not going to promote other forums that take shots at us daily. If they want the instruction of the best of the best in the PE game they need to come here. Now on your point about sharing information, that’s fine copy and paste information and give credit to the author, I’m not trying to censor information I’m simply censoring the names of forums that do nothing but disrespect us.
But you really do have to be careful of allowing links to just anything or anywhere now. Back in the day it might be considered a good thing as it helped build a true connected network. But now Google (almost exclusively) likes to play God and will ghost your website because they think they know better. Censorship if you will. I have been their victim and know it all too well. My two cents....
 
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But you really do have to be careful of allowing links to just anything or anywhere now. Back in the day it might be considered a good thing as it helped build a true connected network. But now Google (almost exclusively) likes to play God and will ghost your website because they think they know better. Censorship if you will. I have been their victim and know it all too well. My two cents....
I hate google so much... i'm convinced its the modern day eye of sauron.
 
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