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Well, most obvious thing would using a semi-loose cockring, in my mind anyhow. There are several rings for whole package usage that are not very tight but add a certain tension anyhow.

The Silisleeves can be worn on off hours as well. There's the new cream in the shop, I haven't tried it yet thought. (As you asked about a cream or supplement. :) )
Definitely balanced diet helps a lot, proper hydration (I know, I keep repeating myself from thread to thread) is important.
Supplemental wise there's L-Citrulline and L-Arginine that do things for the bloostream down south and overall.

One could make a Ring of Power, even if there are no other benefits to it, at least it can do certain cockring-type action and make your package appear bulkier. ;)

Kegels for blood flow, that's one thing as well! Just basic routine, don't have to go hardcore with the Kegels, as those muscles need rest as well.
 
There is so much you can do to increase your flaccid size. One of the best exercises is the testicle health massage and stretch found in the Newbie Routine. This exercise will create a separation between your penis and your scrotum allowing much more blood flow to go to your penis allowing her to hang longer and heavier. The next thing that increases flaccid size very quickly is the Bathmate, Forcing blood into your penis causing her to hang heavier and longer. Titan pills are a great supplement for a heavier hanging flaccid size and for better er forcing blood into your penis causing her to hang heavier and longer. Titan pills or the great supplement for a heavier hanging flaccid size and for better direction quality. ection quality. And every moment you are not doing PE use an extender to keep yourself extended throughout the day to make solid the gains you are meeting in size. I suggest going to the store and looking at the three models we sell come back with any questions you may have. We carry the SizeDoctor, the Phalosan and the SizeGenetics.
 
@arkailija - Wow, how many years have I been reading about fluid retention and turtling, and am now putting it together?! (At least the latter!) First, explain to me the deal with fluid retention, as I don’t think I’ve really experienced it. (Which I’m guessing is good.)

Second, just to be safe as this is almost as easy as one plus one; the logic behind the sleeve’s one use is to put your flaccid penis through it during the day so it keeps it extended? In that it’s not as major or noticeable as stretching devices, but is a good alternative to keep that flaccid stretch going when you can’t do much during that time? (Is this also what the ace bandage wrap is about?!) Sorry if some of this is on the nose!

Also going to buy this and take at least five to really see if I can see \ experience a benefit with them, as I have yet to so far... Noticeably anyway! Source Naturals L-Citrulline 1,000 mg 60 Tabs - Swanson Health Products

Well, for me fluid retention has occurred during hydropump sessions, mostly below the glans, the "much spoken" doughnut head. Definitely got that big time as a newbie long time ago.
It can occur on base or shaft, for me it's always been behind the glans. I think this might be due to being uncut, in my case at least.

Fluid retention feels pretty much puffy and "squishy" in a way. I've noticed that using the 5x5x3 routine (or variation) with Slow Squash Jelqs, that the retention doesn't appear.
It is not the end of the world to get fluid retention, but it isn't so much true when thinking about gains.
Heck, one can "easily" get a puffy spongemonster cock if one desires so :D But is it healthy or even usable, so-so I would say, definitely not healthy at least, in my opinion.

Be glad if you haven't had Fluid Retention, means that you've done your exercises smart.

Yes, the sleeves can be used in that manner, way less noticiable than an extender device. Wrapping can be also used for ADS, but with wrapping it's more of hassle from what I've understood. I have only tried the sleeves, they are super easy! :)

That L-Citrulline seems like a proper deal, I've had some Source Naturals stuff and they've been fine.
I however bought L-Citrulline in powder form, it can be mixed to juices etc., doesn't have a very strong flavor. And I know strong flavors, I've tasted many different supplemental things. ;)

RED is right, flaccid size fluctuates a lot. There are certain cockrings that do stay in place and don't make a big "look at me" deal.

When I'm at home I go commando, that helps with keeping stuff loose and nice. And when I go out, I do wear loose boxer shorts. Going commando when outside, well, I've done that and I start to produce a very "gamy" smell.

Massaging helps a lot, it's a stable part of PE!

Wishing you the best of times gaining and growing! Grow steadily!
 
@arkailija - Wow, how many years have I been reading about fluid retention and turtling, and am now putting it together?! (At least the latter!) First, explain to me the deal with fluid retention, as I don’t think I’ve really experienced it. (Which I’m guessing is good.)

Second, just to be safe as this is almost as easy as one plus one; the logic behind the sleeve’s one use is to put your flaccid penis through it during the day so it keeps it extended? In that it’s not as major or noticeable as stretching devices, but is a good alternative to keep that flaccid stretch going when you can’t do much during that time? (Is this also what the ace bandage wrap is about?!) Sorry if some of this is on the nose!

Also going to buy this and take at least five to really see if I can see \ experience a benefit with them, as I have yet to so far... Noticeably anyway! Source Naturals L-Citrulline 1,000 mg 60 Tabs - Swanson Health Products

@REDZULU2003 - Nice, as common as what you said is it's good to be reminded about it! My only issue with a cock ring, at least what I've used, is it pushes it out; where as I'm just interested in trying to get it to hang and or be as plump as possible without it being obvious you're PEing. But great point as well on how our flaccid state changes for a good amount of reasons.

@DLD - Great stuff, especially the massage that I have yet to do after all this time!


You are going to find that the Testicle health massage and stretch is going to give you the results you desire so quickly!
 
@arkailija - Wow okay, see I think I dodged that bullet, weaving into others head on more or less! After a pump session my whole guy is uniform in it’s shape and pump look, again, more or less:} And yes, I would say it may look good but if it isn’t healthy, avoid like the plague! But thank you for the compliment; though I will say I’ve probably been more cautious than smart, but either way right

And great, I’ll give the sleeves a purchase and try… Though I’m sure I’ll have to frig around deciding what size is best. It does sound easy enough though so I look forward to trying, especially to feel like I’m doing something proactive as I don’t wear the PF during the day any longer.

As for the powdered supps; like all others pretty much I didn’t see much of a difference, so I’m hoping the higher concentrated dose will do the trick in augmenting my routine. As for the CR, interesting that I almost don’t feel or notice a difference, as I’m using the kind you can tighten or loosen manually… Being afraid to tighten too much naturally:} But thanks man, trust me I’ll need those good times and wish them for you and everyone around these parts!

@DLD - Well this should be a fun question, but is there any chance of a video existing for the testicle health stretch and massage?

Yes go to the paysite site at www.mattersofsize.com/access and go to the audiovisual section and in that menu you’ll find this exercise. The paysite is now open for free.
 
@DLD - Great, I'll try it out and see how it goes, intense exercise for sure! And just to be safe, I see there are various sizes to choose from for the SiliSleev, but how do you know which one to go for? Obviously I want something that’ll be snug and do the job, but not something that’ll either too tight or the opposite!
 
Good that you ironed that issue out.

Its a very good question, one I can only give my own opinion on.

My feeling is that it wont hinder girth, but if you were targeting girth primarily, you want to keep engorgement, so wearing a light cock ring, or siliring at the base to aid in that would be wise.

The penis will still expand while in the sleeve, it should not be so tight it comes in on itself, and restricts blood flow.

So, my gut says no it wont interfere with girth gains, but if you are just working girth, it may be useful to train with it either off, a slacker one, or with a cock ring at the base while in use.
 
No it will not hinder girth in anyway. I can relate to your pee story LOL I have the same issues and if you don’t get every single drop out you end up smelling like piss all day long LOL

I would also look through SRT and read about healing as it will help you understand what will help your girth and length while healing. SRT focuses on gaining but also puts just as much focus on healing. So SRT might be able to answer some of those questions.
 
We're going to be working on a cock ring that is like the cable clamp, and can be adjusted. Cable clamp was what I used as a cock ring, you can adjust as tight or loose as you wish.

Its strange, because often guys fear using such methods, yet dont fear using a pump, and more nasty injuries have occurred through men using insane amounts of pressure, and poor dangerous form with a pump versus constriction techniques.

Allot of this, you may have seen my post :) is psychological, from the self imposed barriers we create ourselves, to the level of intensity, or often lack off within our routines to progress.

I understand where your at though, as some men are away with the fairies with a cock ring, would have it so tight that it causes damage, but most of my gains in girth from 5.4" to 7.2" was via clamping, and I never had long lasting damage due to taking precautions, but I always trained HIT.
 
@REDZULU2003 - Well I'll tell ya, for all the times I've worn a CR, I've always been a little iffy in general... Done right it's not a bad thing at all, and certainly helpful when it comes to all things PE... But still, something about trapping \ tying up your CnB's and all that goes with it, well, just never sat right with me, even when I do it currently! I'm actually currently using one that you can loosen or tighten as you see fit, and I don't think I keep it tight enough around my whole package to make a difference after PEing!

BUT, having said all that, you just cost me twenty plus tax and tags dude!:) Which is to say, I think that'll be my next ASAP purchase, as I like that you can use it just on your dick and also in conjunction with the sleeve. And yeah, it's definitely not restricting blood flow, and I really love that it's almost got my guy hanging out of my underwear when I sit in a certain way... I take it if done \ used enough, this will become permanent?!

@DLD - Yeah dude seriously, like I think I'm completely done and yet, not so much! And great information with SRT!


?? Glad it helped ?
 
I suggest not even wearing underwear, I never wore underwear and I always let it hang loose and I’ve always had a really good flaccid length. Penis is not meant to be bunched up or tucked away into tight underwear, I lost so much size doing that and the main reason SRT was created.
 
@REDZULU2003 - Yeah that’s what I use now, it’s adjustable so I can make it tighter, though honestly I’m not sure if I’m even doing so with the right amount of tightness. But yeah I can only imagine the injuries guy’s sustain when they don’t need to, and what they prefer when PEing.

But yeah dude trust me, I know of what you speak when you write about the prisons we create for ourselves! And wow, you had that big of increase with clamping? What exact method did you use?!

@DLD - The best part is how all the time with it on, and sometimes with it off, that my flaccid is long enough that I actually fall out \ poke through the one side of my underwear! Now that isn't to say I'm at DLD flaccid length, but because of the sleeve and that I don't wear super loose underwear, my guy will sometimes go into the light to see what's going on!

Which is all to say one, is it possible to have this made in more of a flesh colored tone? And just to play it safe, I'm guessing this should be worn pretty much as much as possible?

Most methods for my girth within clamping can be found in the now quite primitive looking guide I wrote something like 16 years ago (loudlycrying)(loudlycrying)\o/8-) Can be found as a sticky in the following section


We got several excellent sticky threads there on using the clamp safely, never did me any harm.

I dont work girth anymore, its all length this year once the equipment comes, and the routine is nailed down, but when I do [Yeah I will be wanting more] hopefully we will have our own take on the cable clamp, right here in the stores.

Enjoy
 
@DLD - Ha, something I've never considered! I'm still curious though, should this be worn as much as possible? And do you think a flesh colored one could be sold soon? (If it could even be made that is!:)

Yes you can do this much is possible as long as you’re comfortable. Talk about a flesh colored version when you said that I was thinking of the SiliStretcher We have just started selling. Because I know lightning is working on a modification that all users would receive but it’s a sleeve that will go over the SiliStretcher to make it appear to be a penis. If you haven’t checked it out go look at it because it’s pretty freaking awesome here’s a picture.
 
@REDZULU2003 Oh wow, great stuff dude, and LOL; it was another time! And good, I man the term clamp alone is a little intimidating as you can imagine. But yes, great stuff and yeah, when you get back to it it’ll be better to have the best information and equipment.

@DLD - Hey yes, so far I’ve been putting the hours in with the sleeve and with it on it definitely makes my flaccid hang longer. But like anything when it comes to PE, especially the techniques \ devices you’re able to use \ wear passively and or as much as possible, you’re almost afraid to stop for fear of things going back the way they were. Sorry for getting a little out there:)!

And nice, those pics definitely help in getting a great idea of what wearing the SiliStretcher will be like. I’m confused about the modification though that you mentioned… I only meant will the sleeve itself be flesh colored, or even clear?

You don’t need to fear that you can take a week off and you won’t lose gains. And any gains you do lose we’re not permanent but they will come back immediately upon training.

If I would have to say I would say flesh colored.
 
@DLD - Oh okay, I was thinking about just the sleeve that's sold separately... And now that I think about it, wanting it to be clear \ flesh colored is silly, as the blue isn't noticeable when wearing like anything; and it's not like any colored one wouldn't be noticed if the wearer was naked in front of someone!

Not noticeable at all but the blue sleeve was purposely picked because it’s a unique other sleeves that are available. But for a while we were discussing a sleeve to go over the entire tool to make it appear more penis-like.
 
How bout it boys, how do y'all that extra flaccid length and or girth look (separate or together!) on your off hours? Especially when you're not able to PE and really get into any kind of PE routine, is there a quick and dirty method manual wise? (Other than the obvious... Hell, what is the obvious?!) How about a cream, supplement, etc?

And this isn't the magical pill thread by any means; just an attempt to see what if anything can aid in keeping things looking lengthy \ girthy when you're on your off time and or can't for a few days or more. Thanks!:)

The length master can bring the flaccid hang you seek, the mityvac and bathmate can also deliver. I say, get yourself a length master and a penis pump and see big time life changes in the form of PE.
 
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