Overtraining

[Abem1]

How do I know if I am overtraining or not? I read on other forums a lot about overtraining where as here on MOS it's quite the opposite approach.
I have tried SRT with very little results and I have mixed feelings. Maybe I am overtraining?
Can anyone help me with a routine or guidance that creates consistent, predictable results?
Thanks

 

[notmeanymore]

When you wake up with a horribly broken penis that never functions right again. That’s how you know. I know all about it.with even less penis than imaginable .

 

[oldandlively]

How do I know if I am overtraining or not? I read on other forums a lot about overtraining where as here on MOS it's quite the opposite approach.

Fatigueness, soreness, loss of erection quality, edema not going down more than two days, blisters, sores, numbness, oversensitivity, and a few dozens more. A good exercise routine create a bit of soreness, but that soreness shouldn't last more than 12 hours.

I have tried SRT with very little results and I have mixed feelings. Maybe I am overtraining?

Possibly. Can you describe what you've done so far, how hard you pushed, and your routine schedule?

Can anyone help me with a routine or guidance that creates consistent, predictable results?

Before a guidance is provided, you have to let us know what you have been doing so far. SRT itself is just a program. But what you've done is a whole different thing using the SRT approach.

 

[Abem1]

Fatigueness, soreness, loss of erection quality, edema not going down more than two days, blisters, sores, numbness, oversensitivity, and a few dozens more. A good exercise routine create a bit of soreness, but that soreness shouldn't last more than 12 hours.



Possibly. Can you describe what you've done so far, how hard you pushed, and your routine schedule?



Before a guidance is provided, you have to let us know what you have been doing so far. SRT itself is just a program. But what you've done is a whole different thing using the SRT approach.

I did SRT for a good 6-8 months. Saw maybe 0.5cm gain. Like sure, after each workout I thought I got some pretty good post-workout gains (it looked big). But it never quite converted into "real" gains. I did implement erect stretching for the last month. Like sure, the gains were coming but soooo slowly. Maybe my workouts suck but I really feel I have gotten the hang of it tbh. The gains are just not coming for some reason.
Other people claim 1 inch in a year and stuff like that and I am nowhere near that.
Just really wish I could find the way to the gains...

The workout was the following:
5 min warmup in shower
1 min x4 of powerassist stretches
1x4 bundled left & right downward (sitting on chair and stretching under thighs)
1x4 bundled straight down
1x4 bundled bts
1x4 bundled bts (while laying on my back and stretching under thighs/ass)

x2 of 8 min erect stretching/week

After each workout I used ads, 1 hour at almost max force, then dropped to about 70% intensity for 2-4 hours, (if I only did 2 hours I switched to wrap for another 3-4 hours or so).
Some days I wrapped instead for around 6 hours.

 

[oldandlively]

I did SRT for a good 6-8 months. Saw maybe 0.5cm gain. Like sure, after each workout I thought I got some pretty good post-workout gains (it looked big). But it never quite converted into "real" gains. I did implement erect stretching for the last month. Like sure, the gains were coming but soooo slowly. Maybe my workouts suck but I really feel I have gotten the hang of it tbh. The gains are just not coming for some reason.
Other people claim 1 inch in a year and stuff like that and I am nowhere near that.
Just really wish I could find the way to the gains...

This is considered as a very slow gain. It's on par as the hard gainers.

The workout was the following:
5 min warmup in shower
1 min x4 of powerassist stretches
1x4 bundled left & right downward (sitting on chair and stretching under thighs)
1x4 bundled straight down
1x4 bundled bts
1x4 bundled bts (while laying on my back and stretching under thighs/ass)

x2 of 8 min erect stretching/week

This is definitely a newbie routine, but you're far into the intermediate zone. Once you hit the 3rd month, you're no longer in the newbie zone, but you're in the intermediate zone of training. If that's the case, you need to increase everything in terms of intensity and time.

Instead of 30 seconds or even up to 60 seconds, go straight to 120 seconds per exercise. If you can measure the strength of your pull, gauge how much pulling strength you have since the start, where you are now, and you need to slowly increase the pulling tention going forward.

As for the PowerAssist, you are using the handle and ring of the Length Master 3, am I correct? Just to make very sure. PowerAssist device can even be a simple budget-saver for poor men on extremely limited budgets, such as a broomstick handle, a simple wooden ring, or even a simple plastic printer type, which will not be comfortable at all whatsoever. I even see one of the brothers in another forum copied the LM3 and did a metal printed version. I was in awe because of the strength it can provide, but at the same, the comfort was not there until it goes through the sandblast or metal bead tumbler to get rid of the rough edges and surfaces.

After each workout I used ads, 1 hour at almost max force, then dropped to about 70% intensity for 2-4 hours, (if I only did 2 hours I switched to wrap for another 3-4 hours or so).
Some days I wrapped instead for around 6 hours.

Got it. So, you're using roughly around 1.5kg to 2kg of traction force, and reduce to around 1kg to 1.4kg of traction force a little later for around 3 to 4 hours.

Go ahead and confirm the previously mentioned info, or correct it, and we'll go from there.

 

[Abem1]

Yes, for the powerassist I am using the handle and ring of the LM3.

Instead of 30 seconds or even up to 60 seconds, go straight to 120 seconds per exercise. If you can measure the strength of your pull, gauge how much pulling strength you have since the start, where you are now, and you need to slowly increase the pulling tention going forward.

Hmm interesting. The thing is, I always thought as long as I am stretching with full force/at max capacity that it didnt really matter how long the sets are, as long as I achieve a workout of 20-25 mins. I did try to stretch for longer but it would get so uncomfortable I found that it suited me better to stretch at max capacity for 1 minute, then a short rest. I used to do 5 mins straight of bts but I could never hold at full force without "releasing" a little several times over the 5 mins. This is why I choose the 1 min full force stretches.
Maybe I am wrong though and this is losing me gains...

When increasing the time of sets, can i lower the total sets or leave them as is? In other words, does the workout need to be x2 longer than currently?

Got it. So, you're using roughly around 1.5kg to 2kg of traction force, and reduce to around 1kg to 1.4kg of traction force a little later for around 3 to 4 hours.

Go ahead and confirm the previously mentioned info, or correct it, and we'll go from there.

My ads (expander system) tops out at 1,25 kg on the measure bar, although it is possible to apply forces greater than that. Since I am often sitting down at my computer, and the force is amplified, I am pretty sure it's around 1.5kg (or something close to that). Then I reduce it to around 0.75-1kg force for 3-4 hours.

 

[oldandlively]

Yes, for the powerassist I am using the handle and ring of the LM3.

Got it. When you can, try to upgrade it with the plates so you can do bundled stretches so the lateral tissues can be broken down faster with less pulling force.

Hmm interesting. The thing is, I always thought as long as I am stretching with full force/at max capacity that it didnt really matter how long the sets are, as long as I achieve a workout of 20-25 mins. I did try to stretch for longer but it would get so uncomfortable I found that it suited me better to stretch at max capacity for 1 minute, then a short rest. I used to do 5 mins straight of bts but I could never hold at full force without "releasing" a little several times over the 5 mins. This is why I choose the 1 min full force stretches.
Maybe I am wrong though and this is losing me gains...

It's correct to go full force, but pulling full force by hands only lacks the "full force" that we're looking for. Human's pulling strength lacks the assisting strength of mechanical assistant, such as the pulley system. In this case, leverage and contortion/twisting application. Rather than pulling at 10kg to 15kg of pure strength, which can arm the penile tissues, all you need is 5kg to 7kg using the PowerAssist with the plates while the penile shaft is bundled/twisted. That still generates about 15kg of pulling force result.

If you're using 1 minute full capacity, bundle the pull and you'll achieve better results. Increase it to 2 minutes, and you'll get even more results. If you reach upper intermediate around 7 to 8 months, you can go a full 5 minutes before the 1 minute rest and maximize the results even more. When you reach around 5 minutes per exercise, you are causing the tissues to reach peak fatigue zone, creating a bit of achiness and soreness without the pains. You can select 5 different exercises, or even 6 exercises, you achieve the same 25 to 30 minutes.

When increasing the time of sets, can i lower the total sets or leave them as is? In other words, does the workout need to be x2 longer than currently?

Yes. You can decrease from 6 to 8 down to 5 to 6, but increase the time to 5 minutes, and eventually, 10 minutes.

My ads (expander system) tops out at 1,25 kg on the measure bar, although it is possible to apply forces greater than that. Since I am often sitting down at my computer, and the force is amplified, I am pretty sure it's around 1.5kg (or something close to that). Then I reduce it to around 0.75-1kg force for 3-4 hours.

When you max out the extender, the 1.25kg is not really at 1.25kg. When you bend over, or when you overstrech the maximum spring system, the traction pressure from the system exceeds the 1.25kg. It goes as far as 3kg while the tension indicator max out at 1.25kg, as you suspected it.

At this point, stick at 1.25kg, and ease out down just a tiny bit below it. You're perfectly fine. Since you are under the slow grower condition, we'll use the ADS to the peak advantage.

 

[Growing4Squirting]

If i can add something, and this is from a hard gainer, never reach the point of pain either during your workouts, or when passively stretching (silistretcher) .
I found that when im in the silistretcher with medium strentgh i gain the most, one good way to know is to measure your penis right after taking off the silistrecher.
It should give the same lentgh as your post workout.
Also the stretch that helped me a lot is simply, straight out, where i can see the skin get stretched from pulling the inner penis.
Hope this helps and keep us updated