Lenght first then girth

[Wintergates]

I have one year inside the PE world and one of the most important things i learned through other forums which iv been banned that its better to focus on lenght first then girth , i know i can gain girth but somehow in all this time doing PE i realized my penis was reacting positively more towards lenght , is that true that some penises are more prone to get lenght than girth and vice versa , should all we aim lenght first before jumping into girth there has to be a reason for this.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

I have one year inside the PE world and one of the most important things i learned through other forums which iv been banned that its better to focus on lenght first then girth , i know i can gain girth but somehow in all this time doing PE i realized my penis was reacting positively more towards lenght , is that true that some penises are more prone to get lenght than girth and vice versa , should all we aim lenght first before jumping into girth there has to be a reason for this.

Yes, i have found the same to be true, although for other it doesn't matter, its just personal physiology so it varies.

 

[stillwantmore]

The theory being, it makes sense that a less girth penis is "easier" to make longer than a thicker one. Though, it's anecdotal. I've got a few 'banned from there' badges of honor as well. Welcome to a more tolerant community!

 

[DLD]

Always train length before girth because once girth has expanded it makes it very very difficult to get any kind of stretch in. I do suggest doing this maybe once a week or twice a month where are you stretch after you have become expanded. The reason for this is to help break down the Tunica but that’s the only reason to be doing it. So for most of the time I would stick with length first girth second and every once and again always train length before girth because one skirt has expanded it makes it very very difficult to get any kind of stretch in. I do suggest doing this maybe once a week or twice a month where are you stretch after you have become expanded. The reason for this is to help break down the Tunica but that’s the only reason to be doing it. So for most of the time I would stick with Lang first girth second and every once and again Do girth first and then length after. In all cases after you have stretched too short to put on your salad Sam, size genetics, ace bandag to girls first and then length after. In all cases after you have stretched be sure to put on your Phallosan, SizeGenetics, ACE, or whatever ads you have to heal in an elongated position. You can read about this in the SRT and learn quite a bit.

 

[Wintergates]

What about train lenght till i see my penis large enough then do girth , do you think 2 years of 3hs per day erect hanging is enough to get 2" , i did 20mins x13 sets last night came back with some energy i think

 

[DLD]

What about train lenght till i see my penis large enough then do girth , do you think 2 years of 3hs per day erect hanging is enough to get 2" , i did 20mins x13 sets last night came back with some energy i think

Do you mean doing in exclusive length routine until you gain the size you want and then you’ll go figure? I would say that into years anyone should be able to get 2 inches if they put in the right effort. For everyman PE is very personal and the gains you make will depend on how much time and intensity you put in. I gained 2 inches in six months and that was because I spent all day every day doing PE. So a lot of it has to do with your motivation, your beliefs, the more time you are able to invest and Other factors. Start the routine as you have written it and make modifications as time progresses.

 

[Wintergates]

How is that i can do erect hanging without injury myself , is it because of Clonazepam , in your mind do you see gains possible from erect hanging

 

[DLD]

How is that i can do erect hanging without injury myself , is it because of Clonazepam , in your mind do you see gains possible from erect hanging

I take the same medication and I have not really noticed any kind of difference in PE while on it. If you’re able to hang erect without injury you discovered a new way of gaining.

 

[Wintergates]

Someone told me that it will not deliver gains just will work for penis curvature because the weight you have to use is very light but i feel the stress after doing it regardless you said theres no need to fatigue yourself to gain

 

[DLD]

Someone told me that it will not deliver gains just will work for penis curvature because the weight you have to use is very light but i feel the stress after doing it regardless you said theres no need to fatigue yourself to gain

Get this someone already tried doing it?

 

[Wintergates]

As far as i know everyone is afraid of hanging erect even at very low weight im hanging 0.4 pounds haha but one thing to consider is that the thiner the penis the faster will get tired , i would love to find someone here who tried it and gained but as you may know everyone follows the flock

 

[DLD]

As far as i know everyone is afraid of hanging erect even at very low weight im hanging 0.4 pounds haha but one thing to consider is that the thiner the penis the faster will get tired , i would love to find someone here who tried it and gained but as you may know everyone follows the flock

The flock follows the gains!

 

[Wintergates]

Hmmmmmmmmm

 

[REDZULU2003]

I have one year inside the PE world and one of the most important things i learned through other forums which iv been banned that its better to focus on lenght first then girth , i know i can gain girth but somehow in all this time doing PE i realized my penis was reacting positively more towards lenght , is that true that some penises are more prone to get lenght than girth and vice versa , should all we aim length first before jumping into girth there has to be a reason for this.

I'm living proof that you SHOULD work length intensely before you switch to a more girth-oriented regimen. This doesn't mean if you do length, ignore girth, it means make length the major player in the routine.

Okay, I have years ago explained why I think its more tricky to gain length when you have more girth. I dont recall the thread, but in a nutshell its because of the increased (large) volume that needs to be extended.

For example, if you take a 8 x 6 inch penis its volume is 375.56 ml
Now, take a 8 x 5 with 260.81 ml ... that's over 100.00 ml volume less!

What that means to me, is your working more penis, even when not erect, because it is larger, doesn't just come from nowhere, out of nothing from flaccid. The mass was around, so your working with it, and this makes it more difficult in my opinion.

Another example. 12 x 6 has 563.35 ml volume but the 8.5 x 7.5 has more dick at 623.49 ml

Most, will only see the LENGTH and 12 inches of dont, but its the GIRTH that has packed on serious volume in the latter, so you can imagine how much more difficult it would be for that last subject to grow length, even the 12 x 6 will find it more difficult as he is such a length now with all that 6 inch girth spread out, it would be trickier then usual I think for him to gain the amount of girth he would like to, but easier if he was 10 inches long with the same girth stats.

My point? its all about volume.

Work your length more first, with some girth, and then once you get to around 8-9 inches length (maybe less depending on what you want) hit the girth, but keep in mind once you pack on width, no turning back!

I wish I had worked length from day one, but I was always obsessed with girth, and no forums when I started. I got the log in details into a pay site called penile secrets at the time, which isn't a patch on MOS, but they offered the basic jelq and stretch ... I went with the jelq, and not only did I gain, but used poor technique which has given me turkey neck (listen to them ... I can hear them ... it looks hideous when shaven fully like a chicken for the oven) and so you need to pay attention.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I have one year inside the PE world and one of the most important things i learned through other forums which iv been banned that its better to focus on lenght first then girth , i know i can gain girth but somehow in all this time doing PE i realized my penis was reacting positively more towards lenght , is that true that some penises are more prone to get lenght than girth and vice versa , should all we aim lenght first before jumping into girth there has to be a reason for this.

I also been banned from two sites, both are British - Pridepenis and Cheekycherry but the yanks always loved me

 

[REDZULU2003]

As far as i know everyone is afraid of hanging erect even at very low weight im hanging 0.4 pounds haha but one thing to consider is that the thiner the penis the faster will get tired , i would love to find someone here who tried it and gained but as you may know everyone follows the flock

I have seen some merit in what you post, but as many vets of hanging seem to not relate to it I cant fully endorse it either. Hanging, although I did it, isn't the area where my main penis enlargement expertise is, as we all have our own specialties or things we were better at, more interested in.

Stillwantmore is in my opinion the main man for hanging (makes him sound like an executioner) but he is the knowledge, and he explains it very well, has videos, gains, LOTS of experience and years behind him. Seriously, the guy was dedicated.

This doesn't mean what your now experimenting with is useless. It just means it hasn't been done much, if at all before. I suggest you keep going with it, and take measurements now, and do this each week.

PLEASE keep a diary of it all, make a thread in the progress section, and if you can, include some pix.

This could be your major input to this field, seriously, who knows but you must take the experimenting seriously and do it. I got banned from cheekycherry back in 2003 for writing about clamping as it was deemed so dangerous, and banned from pridepenis for writing about a head enlargement method that was said to blow up a mans glans ... this was bullshit, and a member made that up to get me banned, but they did me a huge Cavour albeit I had good memories at the site, it was going further under with neglect by its owner.

Anyway ... if your serious, take measurements NOW ... pictures NOW and keep track.

 

[Wintergates]

I'm living proof that you SHOULD work length intensely before you switch to a more girth-oriented regimen. This doesn't mean if you do length, ignore girth, it means make length the major player in the routine.

Okay, I have years ago explained why I think its more tricky to gain length when you have more girth. I dont recall the thread, but in a nutshell its because of the increased (large) volume that needs to be extended.

For example, if you take a 8 x 6 inch penis its volume is 375.56 ml
Now, take a 8 x 5 with 260.81 ml ... that's over 100.00 ml volume less!

What that means to me, is your working more penis, even when not erect, because it is larger, doesn't just come from nowhere, out of nothing from flaccid. The mass was around, so your working with it, and this makes it more difficult in my opinion.

Another example. 12 x 6 has 563.35 ml volume but the 8.5 x 7.5 has more dick at 623.49 ml

Most, will only see the LENGTH and 12 inches of dont, but its the GIRTH that has packed on serious volume in the latter, so you can imagine how much more difficult it would be for that last subject to grow length, even the 12 x 6 will find it more difficult as he is such a length now with all that 6 inch girth spread out, it would be trickier then usual I think for him to gain the amount of girth he would like to, but easier if he was 10 inches long with the same girth stats.

My point? its all about volume.

Work your length more first, with some girth, and then once you get to around 8-9 inches length (maybe less depending on what you want) hit the girth, but keep in mind once you pack on width, no turning back!

I wish I had worked length from day one, but I was always obsessed with girth, and no forums when I started. I got the log in details into a pay site called penile secrets at the time, which isn't a patch on MOS, but they offered the basic jelq and stretch ... I went with the jelq, and not only did I gain, but used poor technique which has given me turkey neck (listen to them ... I can hear them ... it looks hideous when shaven fully like a chicken for the oven) and so you need to pay attention.

Definetily im gonna stick to lenght until i reach my 8-8.5 lenght after your words

 

[Wintergates]

I have seen some merit in what you post, but as many vets of hanging seem to not relate to it I cant fully endorse it either. Hanging, although I did it, isn't the area where my main penis enlargement expertise is, as we all have our own specialties or things we were better at, more interested in.

Stillwantmore is in my opinion the main man for hanging (makes him sound like an executioner) but he is the knowledge, and he explains it very well, has videos, gains, LOTS of experience and years behind him. Seriously, the guy was dedicated.

This doesn't mean what your now experimenting with is useless. It just means it hasn't been done much, if at all before. I suggest you keep going with it, and take measurements now, and do this each week.

PLEASE keep a diary of it all, make a thread in the progress section, and if you can, include some pix.

This could be your major input to this field, seriously, who knows but you must take the experimenting seriously and do it. I got banned from cheekycherry back in 2003 for writing about clamping as it was deemed so dangerous, and banned from pridepenis for writing about a head enlargement method that was said to blow up a mans glans ... this was bullshit, and a member made that up to get me banned, but they did me a huge Cavour albeit I had good memories at the site, it was going further under with neglect by its owner.

Anyway ... if your serious, take measurements NOW ... pictures NOW and keep track.

Are you moderator already ? you should , you very much like me , you write with some passion and give detail info , you must be one of the most "theoric" involved persons in PE and related to meassurements and pics i dont do that and i wont not because of insecurity just because for me its like a smart move , did you ever consider doing PE without much expectations , think about it and you will understand what im talking about

 

[REDZULU2003]

Definetily im gonna stick to lenght until i reach my 8-8.5 lenght after your words

But still do some light girth exercise, such as even basic jelq.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Are you moderator already ? you should , you very much like me , you write with some passion and give detail info , you must be one of the most "theoric" involved persons in PE and related to meassurements and pics i dont do that and i wont not because of insecurity just because for me its like a smart move , did you ever consider doing PE without much expectations , think about it and you will understand what im talking about

Yeah I'm a mod here, and have been since 2003. Thanks for your nice words. I do try to think about my answers more these days, rather then snapping at times as I did do in the past on here.

I never expected much when I started penis enlargement, that is the honest truth. I found about it by accident via a adult entertainment passwords site which gave me the details to penile secrets, and so out of curiosity I started this journey. Seriously, I didn't have issues about my size even before penis enlargement at 6.6 x 5.4

Over the years doing this stuff, I did start to get insecure about my knob, and this isn't good. I also developed unhealthy attitudes in life, how I viewed some stuff in life.

Now, compete honesty ... I dont feel insecure about my penis, or my body and my body is nowhere as fit or strong like it was when I went the gym. I dont go the gym anymore to build muscle in order to feel confident, because that is false and allot of guys do this. Its not a good cycle to go down, you become vain, arrogant, and can become a right ass.

Suppose it would be called body dismorphic nowadays, but these younger folk now are going to suffer with the tech obsession of looking so and so, especially women wanting huge butts, and not thinking long term about how they will droop, and not all women suit that look ... that the body needs to be in proportion, and the hips + thighs need to be sculpted as well.

Now, yes I need to exercise for fitness as I have gone lazy over the years, but I dont give a shit about looking so and so, nor do I feel insecure or inadequate around other men my age who look terrific, because that's them, you come to face demons in life, much harsher demons then your own ego in the mirror and vanity, as I have come across some things I would not wish on an enemy, but it was self inflicted.

Long term, it helped me ... but I'm still on the road to recovery, not a complete install yet, but booting up well.

 

[DutchAthletic92]

But still do some light girth exercise, such as even basic jelq.

I do mainly length exercises every day with the lengthmaster, and when I get more free time I will continue my hanging journey.

Meanwhile i’m doing weighted kegel exercises, like doing kegels and reverse kegels with 10 grams of fishing lead, up until 100 grams lol. So my fishing lead comes in very handy for resisted kegel training.

How much should I jelq ? I thought of doing 100 jelqs, lightly, on monday - wednesday- friday with a rest day in between. Just for bloodflow, stronger erections... No girth.

Is this possible? What do you recommend? More or less jelqs? Or maybe jelqing lightly every day?

And what if I gain girth? Should I quit jelqing all together? Because i’m a very easy girth gainer, i’m at 5.7 inch girth and I would like to keep it that way, but with the improved bloodflow and erection hardness of steel.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I'd say just do about 50 jelqs, and with a semi erection or below.

 

[DutchAthletic92]

I'd say just do about 50 jelqs, and with a semi erection or below.

50 jelqs everyday ? Or each other day?

 

[REDZULU2003]

50 jelqs everyday ? Or each other day?

Whichever you prefer

 

[DLD]

I also been banned from two sites, both are British - Pridepenis and Cheekycherry but the yanks always loved me

 

[DLD]

I benned you once here! ????

 

[REDZULU2003]

I benned you once here! ????

I never remember that you bastard. Check your PM, I sent one regarding a hanging idea.

 

[DLD]

I never remember that you bastard. Check your PM, I sent one regarding a hanging idea.

Yup maybe in 2003?

My pms are messed up send to my email

 

[huge-girth]

Definetily im gonna stick to lenght until i reach my 8-8.5 lenght after your words

Same here. I will get to 9 inches before working on girth. I'm 8 inches now.

 

[Wintergates]

 

[Kappakd69]

dld what where your girth gains in your 6month routine?

 

[DLD]

dld what where your girth gains in your 6month routine?

Over my first six months I made a half inch gain in girth. Girth was very difficult for me to gain and that is why I came out with so many different exercises and tools and the combination of exercises and tools to help me gain girth so much faster. I wish when I started the Bathmate was available because the 3×3×5 Bathmate routine In SRT is the worlds best way to gain girth. I bet I would’ve gained an inch in that six months if I had the Bathmate.

 

[Kappakd69]

Thoughts on skipping jelqs on your beginner program if someone wants to solely focus on length?

 

[Wintergates]

I gained 0.8" lenght with 6 months of jelq just to let you know

 

[Kappakd69]

Yeah, sure no doubt jelqing helps with length, just asking what someone who wanted 0 girth gains should do? DLD's routine without jelqs, for example, must be fine, maybe an increase in sets to catch up? On the other side, I think that there would be a problem with the EQ (Gap between BPEL and BPFSL) if you neglect girth work. I'm not really sure if kegels alone would be enough to prevent this but maybe some light erect stretching would do the job.

 

[Wintergates]

Jelquing provides lenght and girth progressively theres no reason for you to not do it

 

[huge-girth]

I gained 0.8" lenght with 6 months of jelq just to let you know

The length master can give more better gains than this in 6 months with no fear of injury.

 

[DLD]

The length master can give more better gains than this in 6 months with no fear of injury.

The Lengthmaster should be in every man’s toolbox. It has become a staple in the PE world, a necessity to gain size as fast as possible.

 

[Wintergates]

Im not too much into tools myself , only did a homemade hanger

 

[DLD]

The LengthMaster is very quick with length gains but I understand that some wish to go all natural.

 

[Wintergates]

Pyramids of Egypt were made by human hands

 

[DLD]

Pyramids of Egypt were made by human hands

?

 

[Wintergates]

I mean tools vs manual work

 

[DLD]

I mean tools vs manual work

Got you. There are 3 paths in PE and the fastest and most effective path is number 3.
1. All manual work.
2. Exclusively Tools
3. A combination of 1 and 2.

This is based on years of data and experience. I started working in the PE area in late 1999. This was a time when there really were no tools but air pumps. Big Al and Stillwantmore were the first 2 Brothers I met. This was in 2000 and at a time before MOS existed. I posted on 2 forums and I was creating new, more powerful exercises than ever before. I was the first advocate for erect work. I was ostracized for it, non the less it became essential to girth work. I was doing what to much posting on other forums and I decided to go solo in 2003. This allowed me to create any exercise I wanted and post it with no resistance. All men from other forum quickly made there way here. We became the biggest forum back in 2015. Well the biggest without lying about our number as other forums do. So for me in the beginning MOS was strictly manual work.

Very quickly the LengthMaster was needed as DLD Blasters became (and still is) the biggest threads on rival forums. Doing DLD Blasters was not possible for all men so I created the PowerAssist (future LengthMaster) to help men do the A-Stretch, which was needed to do DLD Blasters. This allowed all men to do then no matter how long they were. It quickly turned into so much more and eventually the LengthMaster. It has a long, rich history and was a big part of my routine along with many others. Soon after this we became involved with other tools, that you see here today, that help men do PE without having to do all the work. So you find exclusive equipment routines. These are about successful as the manual routines. The combination of tools and manual work, with 16 years in the making, SRT is the perfect combination and stands as the best PE Routine ever! When some men can not make gains any other way SRT affords them the ability to succeed in a new way. A much more intense routine for sure but the gains come so much quicker most either use it or base their routines off of it.

I gained by creating new exercise to further my growth. The only tool I used was the LengthMaster (Previously the PA) to make most of my gains. I created SRT on a hunch that I thought would allow me to make my final size, and that it did. It is a complex routine at first but once understood and mastered it will help even the most stubborn penis to grow.

I am very pleased with the work I did on SRT and it will always be in some sort of flux since PE changes in ways. For instance when I realized Bundled Stretches stretched the Tunica very efficiently I incorporated that into SRT. So it is good to read updates.

Hope that helped

DLD

Gains can be made in many ways, I this helped.

 

[Wintergates]

Lets say i bought an extender (option 2 ) , whats the better manual work to go alongside with it (for lenght only) i really want to jelq for lenght it seems i dont gain girth with jelquing only lenght my girth is below average dont know what to do

 

[DLD]

Lets say i bought an extender (option 2 ) , whats the better manual work to go alongside with it (for lenght only) i really want to jelq for lenght it seems i dont gain girth with jelquing only lenght my girth is below average dont know what to do

Option two would be equipment based work and the best way to do that for length is definitely the Phallosan for a few different reasons. The biggest plus is that you can wear it through the night giving you eight hours of stretching he wouldn’t get in otherwise. The second thing is it works very nicely as a gaining tool and a healing tool. You can use it 24 hours a day so you can get all of your length work in using the Phallosan exclusively. You also gain some girth using the Phallosan, not a great deal but definitely girth at the base. Doing a tool based girth workout is a little bit more difficult because there really isn’t any decent tool that can do the work for you. The fastest route to making girth gains is to spend 30 to 40 minutes a day doing the SRT 3x3×5 routine. You use the Bathmate in conjunction with the slow squash jelq. So there is a manual portion but this routine packs on girth very very quickly!

I have been looking at a new machine that’s coming out that’s made for Jelqing but it looks very expensive and they’re not gonna give me a sample so I got a wait till I can afford it and buy one to test it out. I cannot even discuss it specifically because I’m still trying to make a deal. But for the most part the best way to gain girth is the SRT 3 ×3×5 routine.

 

[huge-girth]

Im not too much into tools myself , only did a homemade hanger

As long as you are doing what works best for you, I'm sure you will make gains.

 

[Wintergates]

your a very optimistic person girth i like that

 

[huge-girth]

your a very optimistic person girth i like that

Aries here.

 

[Wintergates]

Im Taurus , patience and determination at its max expression