Blisters and the frenulum bubble

[jvf1]

Ok, so I am finally getting real about this after 11/2 years of buying equipment and trying it here and there-so now that I am forcing myself to keeping the devices on-4 hours appears to be the max before I start getting blister and some big ones. I made it to 6 last nit but that is only because I popped them and decided no pain-no gain is that the deal with everyone. Just blast thru keep going even if there is no un-raw skin on there at all. If that is the deal, then I will do it but it is not fun.
I am using this new skin stuff and it is good for covering the popped blisters but doesnt stop them from happening nor does the tape=micro-porous.
Allright, another qestion-It seems to blowing up into a ballon in the area of the frenulum-right below the bottom of ther head. Is this blocking stopping growth, what is this balloning about is that this tight piece of skin holding back and that causing a bubble to occur. It is not a giant blister and goes away the next day but I also am right back to where I started no growth. I am not getting surgery and man I heard some people say they tied it off theirselves. That is beyond my brain to contemplate doing, what if you screwed it up? Any answers for any questions would be appreciated

 

[DLD]

I would cut back on time. Go for 1 hour at a time followed by penis massage then repeat 3 to 4 times daily

 

[jvf1]

That stuff dont work. I need a different answer. I am noy even sure what this is all about here. Who sees what I write? Should I be asking questions elsewhere. I am goint to be strait with you though. I have a brutal blister that is now like an open wound sore, but I cant stop or Imay end up quitting. it took me 2 years to finally click into a this is it now or never moment. It wont come again. If I have to stop. I wont make it to start again. I have not done anything ghis difficult before. I have to put my entire life on hold, no-one else can know about this, no-one will be allowed into my aparftment while I am doing this and I already dont feel like it is working, except right now but I am ripping thru pain. At the 4 hour point everything is screaming-the stealth master kills me at the base-it is to small for me and I am thin, how the f can anyone else use it. The size dr, is ripping my head off but if anything works, it does. Cant get the sili-stretcher to work, never a good strap connection or tubes always breaking. Weight hanging seems to work some what before the size Dr. But the length master is like murder. Of course it will tear the tunica up but it also tears everything else up. I ended up with a bubble the size of a plum the other nite. I am not sure but I think it is the tautness of the frenulum because it happens right there. All of the skin gets yanked forward and it wraps wround the head so it is like overstretching the skin and it will cause blisters also, the weights also. But so far I havent stopped for any of these blisters. They have been happening everytime I tried to start up over the past 2 years, so they will it seems always be happening and if I dont do it thru them then i wont be doing it at all.
This time is getting brutal though, it is now just a red torn off skin, where the underlayer is seen and it burns, I keep covering it with micro tape and even tough bandaids and nu-skin and antibiotics but it aint healing. I gotta figure out a way to heal without stopping. I cant stop, now. Any word on how to heal a blister turned sore without stopping? You have to answer that specific question, if you dont know of a way or there isnt 1 that you have heard of then just say so, telling me to stop for whatever amount of x, wont work. That is not what I am asking about.
I can tell you if I stop, any gains will go away, they always have since I began this and if I stop and do this extreme force thing all over again, it will just end up with anogther b.lister and the same thing all over again.
A cock ring doesnt work on that fad pad stuff, it just rolls right over it. It must be go down to underweight, lose every ounce of fat and muscle will go with it and then build back up from there. Will that even do it though. I keep hearing this is the hardest parft of the body to lose the fat on.
Surgery-its a part of growing up I guess or growing old

 

[DLD]

Sorry I could not help. I can imagine how frustrating this must be. Getting blisters every time you train is no good. I would suggest thar maybe you are too sensitive for the equipment so I suggest allowing yourself to heal and follow tge newbie routine until you build up tolerance may be best. After you are able to build up tolerance you can introduce equipment again

 

[jvf1]

So, this is not normal-I am not to sensitive I probably just am going way to hard and not stopping when I should and driving thru small blisters after popping them just makes bigger blisters. This bundled hanging I have been doing over my leg-really seems to give the ultimate stretch but it may be to much. Anyway. I finally went and looked at webmd and found out these open or de-roofed blisters as they call then can get infected by all 3 virus’, bacteria and fungus’, So I have to stop and then force myself back into it. So, they say use hydro-colloid bandages or dressings and then I found tea-tree oil and eucalyptus in the alternative medicine field. I will try them and tell you if they heal faster than the typical 10 days.
Now, do you know of a right amount of time for the all day stretchers, if I cant do hanging or length master because of blisters.
I purchased equipment before i got to Mos and I got different times.The Other version of sizedr.-6 hrs a day for 6 months- other version of stealth master 12 hours a day! 6 hours is difficult because I cant do anything else while attached but watch you tube or type. 12 hours a day is out, unless you are sleeping with it. I saw a scientific test on this-an actual research study-not a very large sample but at least done by the Scientific method and they claimed most gained 1.9” with 4 hours a day attached. They said “it doesnt seem worth it“ but that is 2”-6-8-seems like a massive difference to me.
I will say, this isnt just a psych. Problem(though I do have those) but a problem of falling out, you become expert at using your tongue and then forget why, although women like it, I do get the I need more look, then I remeber oh, yeah I fall out all the time when I get into it. 6” always falls out-I hear that is the right size but not with me. I am not with anyone I am into or more than that so there isnt any trying to work togethert to make it better, It bothers me more than them anyway, I just stop most of the time and leave. Embarrasing. I do believe I am thin though. I can barely fill the 1.75” mitty tube and the 2”-not even close-no matter how long and how hard-I have not gone over 20-in pressure for 20 mins.around 17 I start getting blisters, I do always use the sleeves but still I get em.
Can You actually get permanently wider or are you stuck with having to have your kit with you wherever you go and whipping it out, again embarrasing, I can see the theory behind length but width, if it is just a matter of pumping up more blood in there to ballon its size=that is easy but it will be gone in a few hours. How can it get permanently thicker? Do you mrean permanently able to be pumped thicker-because you have stretched the skin and blood vessels?
All, right-let me hope I havent gotten infected already. I notice I cant piss normally and it is coming out all over the place. I though it was because of weights or using any of the equipment but it is still there today and I haven't done anything.
If I write to much, eh, Im Italian, thats how we are

 

[DLD]

It takes time but as you continue to expand on a regular basis your expansion will grow and become permanent until you reach your next goal. Just do not go overboard...listen to your body and remember rest is as important as growth

 

[jvf1]

Ok, so this wound has to heal.
That question you really didnt answer, do you get permanently wider or just able to get wider by pumping each time before you have sex?Example I am 1.75 diameter-so that is what it is when i have sex but if I pump 5bminutes before i will be 2.0 for sex, or if I keep on doing 5xby5xby3 for 6 months every other day will I then be permanently at 2.0 and then if I pump 5 minutes before it will expand to 2.25?
That is the idea in length, right, you stretch the tunica and other corpus muscle and it stretches permanently? (I read all the stuff and try to do your program-couldnt change my eating habits though-that would be the absolute hardest thing possible to do but I am tryingv to do this program (may have to stop for a week-the blister has scabbed over so now I have to wait). Like stretching your legs-I know about the 90 secs required to get any length for any kind of stretching(I dont know if you know that and applied it to the lengthmaster program_where you say 1/1/2 minutes). That is a scientific thing that gym trainers use and martial artists do naturally when you are forcing yourself down into splits so you can do high kicks. I get that but I dont see How blowing up your vessels can make you get PERMANENTLY thicker, unless I am understanding it wrong-Is pumping streching your Tunica?
Since this is your thing I am sure you dont have time to answer detailed questions
BUT
Please answer this one at least. I just notice that I can stretch my flaccid out to 7” pretty easily-so the devices must be working, but that doesnt matter because it is only 5.5 as an erection. What is wrong there. Dont tell me that I am just going to get a longer soft-on but nothing Hard-on. Longer soft doesnt matter. It isnt about a show unless the show is an erection. But I am concerned now after seeing this that yah this works but not for what you want it to work for. IS the Erection size going to be as long as the flaccid size? There is no point in just streching out a flat penis.
It is even worse with this fat crap-you only see 5” soft or hard. Then I can stretch it to 7” with no difficulty-so in a month and 1/2 everyday, It went from 6-7 flat but stayed at 6 erect and looks like 5 with the fat pad. Now i want 8” erection and it will still only look like 7”.
I now can see how i can get 8” flaccid in a few more months with SizeDr.. Length master, stealth kit and i am goint to try sleeping with the silistretcher and using the weights.
However that does not matter if it is just 8” of stretched out flaccid penis but still is only 6’erect and 5” with the fat.
The question without all the words is—
I am not getting longer erect but it is getting longer than my erection by an inch flaccid-Is the erction going to get longer? -that is the goal. If i need to do something else for that then what is it. Is there something I need to do to make the erect grow with the flaccid? Or is this only my problem?
I dont have much time but i will have to look through these forums if necessary
Anyways just answer that erection vs flaccid size question please. Thank for writing something back each time. I will stop bugging you soon

 

[derekparle]

That stuff dont work. I need a different answer. I am noy even sure what this is all about here. Who sees what I write? Should I be asking questions elsewhere. I am goint to be strait with you though. I have a brutal blister that is now like an open wound sore, but I cant stop or Imay end up quitting. it took me 2 years to finally click into a this is it now or never moment. It wont come again. If I have to stop. I wont make it to start again. I have not done anything ghis difficult before. I have to put my entire life on hold, no-one else can know about this, no-one will be allowed into my aparftment while I am doing this and I already dont feel like it is working, except right now but I am ripping thru pain. At the 4 hour point everything is screaming-the stealth master kills me at the base-it is to small for me and I am thin, how the f can anyone else use it. The size dr, is ripping my head off but if anything works, it does. Cant get the sili-stretcher to work, never a good strap connection or tubes always breaking. Weight hanging seems to work some what before the size Dr. But the length master is like murder. Of course it will tear the tunica up but it also tears everything else up. I ended up with a bubble the size of a plum the other nite. I am not sure but I think it is the tautness of the frenulum because it happens right there. All of the skin gets yanked forward and it wraps wround the head so it is like overstretching the skin and it will cause blisters also, the weights also. But so far I havent stopped for any of these blisters. They have been happening everytime I tried to start up over the past 2 years, so they will it seems always be happening and if I dont do it thru them then i wont be doing it at all.
This time is getting brutal though, it is now just a red torn off skin, where the underlayer is seen and it burns, I keep covering it with micro tape and even tough bandaids and nu-skin and antibiotics but it aint healing. I gotta figure out a way to heal without stopping. I cant stop, now. Any word on how to heal a blister turned sore without stopping? You have to answer that specific question, if you dont know of a way or there isnt 1 that you have heard of then just say so, telling me to stop for whatever amount of x, wont work. That is not what I am asking about.
I can tell you if I stop, any gains will go away, they always have since I began this and if I stop and do this extreme force thing all over again, it will just end up with anogther b.lister and the same thing all over again.
A cock ring doesnt work on that fad pad stuff, it just rolls right over it. It must be go down to underweight, lose every ounce of fat and muscle will go with it and then build back up from there. Will that even do it though. I keep hearing this is the hardest parft of the body to lose the fat on.
Surgery-its a part of growing up I guess or growing old

Ive heard about cock rings that around the penis or some that go around the balls too. And its supposed to make you last longer or keep you from cumming?

 

[jvf1]

hey, you didnt answer my flaccid vs erection size question, why not?
As for the other person, I dont have the need to see a picture of your dick in your underwear-Hey, let me ask you something-are you a politician? I remember there was an up and coming(hah!-how else do you say it) politician who I thought was going places up high in Govt. All of the sudden they started finding photos of him in the same exact type of position you are in. Whats up, you in D.C. Just kidding, unless you are-then you better chill before you get caught.
Ok-I am really not into watching those videos-I did actually watch every single one of those videos already- all of the programs or steps-There were 5 of them and a ton of videos. another thing is I cant do that Jelquing stuff at all. My thumbs are damaged fro excessive guitar playing and hand work (not jelquing-I never even heard of it until I saw this-where did you find allthis stuff in the 1st place). I do remember seeing 1 eraction exercise and the words “cementing your gains” written or spoken in their. Does that mean you wont be getting any erection gains if you dont do that exercise, which I believe was bending it over at the angles all the way and twisting it.
Now, let me be all honest here. I am at 6”-thats all and twisting it over my wrist is not possible to those a andc bends.
Remove all the hand work and can I GET THE SAME THING out of either the SIZE DR.. Length Master, Stealth kit with weights, the Silistretcher with the strap system-I have all this stuff-Now, ifwhat yo wrote about Tunica is true-only 5% elasticity-then do you really have to rip it apart with the length master before you put on the ADS or the 4-6hr ds(all day-seriously). Will gthe weights rip apart that tunica also? If you dont do this extra stuff at the begiinning then will it not work for you?
Allright, now here is a question-The urethra gets stretched is that truly Ok?
another thing I cant exactly figure this out-Call me stupid or old but Who am I writing to right now-Am I writing directly to Dld-Is this an open forum, the beginners forum, is this my personal section-then someone would have to look in here to find and answer this question. I think I waS asking questions somwewhere else before where you could see different people commenting and a bunch of people wrote me with different answers to my qusetions and a couple of them worked.

 

[DLD]

If you are interested in girth hands free I highly recommend the bathmate or MityVac

 

[jvf1]

I OWN EVERY SINGLE THING SOLD BY MOS-YOU HAVENT COME OUT WITH ANYTHING NEW IN 2 YEARS OR I WOULD OWN IT-2MITTY VACS-4 TUBES, BATHMATE, PINK FAKE PUSSY THIN WITH HANDLES. NOT THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS DO ANY OF THES THIONGS GIVE YOU PERMANENT GIRTH OR DO YOU HAVE TO KEEP PUMPING 5 MINUTES BEFIR SEX FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. THERE ARE REASONS WITHIN THE PENIS STRUCTURE FOR ME TO ASK THAT-WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GET PERMANENTLY BIGGER BY EXPANDIMNG OUTWARDS OTHER THAN BLOOD VESSELS WHICH WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO EXPAND BIGGER BUT NOT XSTAY PERMANENTLY IGGER, IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER IT WOULD BE -YES, IT GETS PERMANENTLY BIGGER IN GIRTH BECAUSE THE CORPUS EXPANDS AND THAT EXPANSION IS PERMANENT OR THE TUNICA EXPANDS IN WIDTH ALSO AND THAT MEANS IT GETS PERMANENTLY BIGGER IN GIRTH-NOT JUST BIGGER FOR THE 1/2 HOUR OR HOUR AFTER YOU PUMP IT. I OWN EVERY LENGTH KIT YOU SELL, EVERY GIRTH THISG ALL THE SLEEVES TUBES, EXTRAS-OVER $2,200 ALREADY-1/3 OF A SURGERY-WHICH I HAVE BEEN CONVINCED DOES NOT WORK AND DAMAGES IT. OK

 

[jvf1]

THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHY I AM MEASURING 7’ FLACCID BUT STILL ONLY 6” ERECT. IS THIS STUFF ONLY FOR GROWING A LONG SOFT PENIS BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY GOAL. I DONT WANT TO SEND PICTURES OR SHOW IN A BATHING SUIT… IS THIS STUFF FOR ERECTION LENGTHENING AND IF SO, WHICH I ASSUME THEN WHY IS IT WORKING ONLY FOR THE FLACCID SIZE FOR ME. DOES IT TAKE TIME TO CATCH UP OR IS THERE EXERCISES I AM NOT DOING AND I CANT DO ANY OF THOSE HAND EXERCISE. SO, DOES THAT MEAN -NO LENGTH GROWN FOR ERECTION BUT ONLY FOR A LONG SOFT DICK-WHO CARSES ABOUT THAT-WELL, I AM SURE SOME PEOPLE DO AND I MAY HAVE CARED 30 YEARS AGO BUT NOT NOW.
ANYWAY, THANKS FOR ANSWERING
THESE ARE 2 SIMPLE QUESTIONS-HOW DO I MATCH ERECT LENGHT WITH FLACCID LENGTH OR IS THAT NOT WHAT THIS DOES(I AM NOT ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GROW ERECT BUT I am not. But it is growing flaccid an inch in 2 months of 4 hours every single day with blisters or not,?
Do you get permanent girth or will it always be temporary girth so yo have to carry your vac in a backpack?

On another not I have tries the hydrocolloid bandages with the popped blister in the SizeDr and still after 3 hours it was filled with blister fluid that continues to seep with vac pressure for some reason ans the super sticky bandage still rips off and the blister sore is worse. So far I haVE TRIED WATERPROOF, REGULAR AND HYDROCOLLOID BANDAGES(SPECIFICALLY FOR BLISTERS THAT HAVE BEEN TORN OR POPPED AND NEW SKIN WIPE OR SPRAY ON AND MANY COMBINATIONS OF BOTH WITH FULL NON-OPEN AT THE END SLEEVES AND WITHOUT IN ALL THRE ADS’ THE SIZE DR, THE STEALTH MASTER AND THE SILISTRETCHER-THEY ALL FAILED TO DO THE JOB OF PROTECTING THE BLISTER SORE AND MADE IT WORSE IN ANY OF THE VACUUMS. ANYONE ELSE HAVE LUCK WITH ANYTHING ELSE? I AM SURE BLISTERS WILL COME UP AGAIN AND I AM TIRED OF STOPPING TO HEAL THEM AND THEN STARTING AGAIN AND MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE HAS THIS ISSUE ALLSO?

 

[DLD]

Maybe you should take a break from equipment and go manual for a while. This will hopefully condition you for the intensity of equipment.

 

[jvf1]

Cant do manual at all. got an answer for my 2 questions?

 

[DLD]

What are you other questions. Please type without all caps

 

[jvf1]

1-My girth goes up to 2.0” diameter when pumping 5x 5 x 3 for a month, without the hand stuff(cant do hand stuff-carpal tunnel syndrome)-and I use the sili-rings after but within 1 day it goes back down to 1.75”-no gain whatsoever and this has been going on for past 1 year. Each month up to 2.0 stop 1 day and back down to 1.75
The Question is-Is it possible to get permanent girth or do we have to pump right before we have sex every time? and if you can-Why is it not working for me?
2-I am going up to 7” stretched flaccid-was at 6”-gained 1” but Erect is still 6” Why? Is this work only for flaccid growth? I dont care about flaccid growth-flaccid can stay the same or shrink and I dont care-I only want Erect growth-Why is my Erect not growing?

 

[DLD]

How long have you trained in this way?

 

[jvf1]

Can you answer those 2 questions or not. Forget about how I am training. 2 years on and off and 2 months now everyday 4 hours a day with size master, length master-causes blisters, weights-cause blisters, mitty vac-(Ok there is another example of what I am talking about-In the mitty vac-I go all the way up to 7 3/4”when I come out and measure-the erection is only 6”-no change-the girth is 2”diameter for about 4 hours then back down to 1.75”.
You get what I am asking-Do these gains become permanent or just temporary-if I keep this 4 hours or go up to 6 hours will the erection be 7 or 71/2 or will just the flaccid go up to 8 or 9 but the erection still stay at 6. I dont and havent seen any movement in the erection size Why?
The diameter also doesnt get any biggere for more than a few hours.
The only question is and I am using Caps to outline it “CAN I GET PERMANENT ERECTION GAINS FROM THESE EXERCISES OR JUST FLACCID GAINS AND CAN I GET PERMANENT GIRTH GAINS AND NOT JUST FOR A FEW HOURS?”I am asking because I can get up to 2”diameter and then it goes away in a few hours. I can get to 7”flacid from 6”in 2 months but the erection has not changed from 6”-Why? Is there something I am not doing?

 

[Grandmaster]

1-My girth goes up to 2.0” diameter when pumping 5x 5 x 3 for a month, without the hand stuff(cant do hand stuff-carpal tunnel syndrome)-and

Why are you doing the 5x5x3 routine if you have CTS? You will not be able to generate the force required doing SSJ's to produce any real results. Lay off the "hand stuff." Look into clamping or EU's, Extreme Uli's. However, using an extender will be a challenge the next day. Possible consequences are: stinging, discomfort, slippage, blisters, and pain. You do not want any of that.
To be honest, if I were you, given the many problems you are experiencing, I would simplify my life and focus on a length-only routine. That may solve some issues. Taking the shotgun approach can be overwhelming; you are much more likely to quit if you don't see quick results for the amount of work you are putting in.
Get the length you want. Then, just a couple of weeks of girth work will make you look very impressive.
Length is the real challenge.


I use the sili-rings after but within 1 day it goes back down to 1.75”-no gain whatsoever and this has been going on for past 1 year. Each month up to 2.0 stop 1 day and back down to 1.75
The Question is-Is it possible to get permanent girth or do we have to pump right before we have sex every time? and if you can-Why is it not working for me?

First of all, please do not measure girth by diameter. It is nowhere near as accurate as measuring the entire circumference, mid shaft.
A 0.25 inch increase in girth after a session is not exactly significant; most of that is fluid retention, not actual tissue expansion, which would explain why your unit is back down to 1.75" in diameter the following day.
You are not expanding the tissues enough. Your input is 2.0" in diameter, giving you an output of 1.75" in diameter. If you do not expand the tissues beyond 2.0, you will always get an output of 1.75. Try to get to 2.25 consistently for at least a couple of months, and see if that produces permanent gains beyond 1.75.
And again, please do not use diameter. Use circumference.

2-I am going up to 7” stretched flaccid-was at 6”-gained 1” but Erect is still 6” Why? Is this work only for flaccid growth? I dont care about flaccid growth-flaccid can stay the same or shrink and I dont care-I only want Erect growth-Why is my Erect not growing?

In general, FSL gains do not convert to EL gains right away. There is usually a lag period.
For me, it was never more than a one-half inch differential, but every guy is different. I would say that if you gained 1 inch in FSL, the probability of realizing some fraction of that in EL is quite high. You are either unlucky, or you did not measure correctly from the start.
When your FSL was 6", your EL must have been slightly shorter than 6", so you must have gained some amount of length.
FSL is always larger than EL, because the outward force generated by your hand is greater than the outward force generated by an erection.
Just keep at it. Simplify your life. You will get there eventually.

 

[jvf1]

Who answerwed my questions? You are very clear and I would like to ask you more stuff to clarify things. There is no simplifying my life and if anything I will be doing more. I am also in he middle of knee replacement recovery-dont worry about that stuff-i can lead a simple life-never worked for me. You answered my questions this way to make sure I am correct.
EDrect takes longer than flaccid but it does catch up-Correct-The whole point of MOS is not just to have a long flat dick down to your knees, you do get a bigger erection. And there is no extra trick or exercise to do-you just work on increasing the flacid with all the tools. Correct!
Yes, I eliminated the in between hand 5-cant do it-now on this question-you said force yourself up to 2.25 from 1.75 as i see the tubes in front of me that is like going from tiny to gigantic-not possible. I can barely fill up the 2.0 from 1.75 and that is at 17psi for 15 minutes and that is all I can do a few times befor I start getting massive blisters. You bsay it is just water? How would you go from 1.75 to 2.25 that is an enormous difference?Eventually is not a #. there is no eventually for some of us who are past a certain age and I cant imagine anyone being able to put 6 hours a day fro more than 6 months into this-it is all consuming I cant do anything with these Ads on .
You gave me definite answers so I will continue blisters be damned so just blast it until its way over sized for girth-Huh

 

[Grandmaster]

jvf1,

Yes, you are correct. As FSL gets longer, EL will follow a little later on. You first start noticing gains in flaccid length, then flaccid stretched length, and finally, erect length.

I really dislike talking about girth in terms of diameter. Whatever your circumference is mid-shaft, you want to have expansion of at least 1/2 inch above that when you are done. If that is the case, and you are still not getting thicker, you may want to try doing a little extra girth work.

Of you can barely fill up the tube at 2.0, then either get a larger tube, or try clamping or doing Extreme Uli's. Be very careful with EU's though, they can be extremely dangerous.

Do not go beyond your limits and injure yourself. Listen to your body. When it is telling you that it is time to back off, you should back off.

You said that "eventually is not a #". Well, I cannot give you a precise number for when you will reach a certain goal. Nobody can. There are too many factors to consider, and everyone is different. How tight your ligaments are, tensile strength of collagenous tissues, consistency, technique, experience, etc.... If you want some idea, you can check scientific studies for extenders, find out what the average gain in EL was over a six month period, and that should be fairly close as to how much you can expect to gain. But to give you an EXACT number? I'm sorry, that is just not possible. Even in those studies, with everyone doing the same amount of work, their results are different. You will find out for yourself how much you will gain in 6 months time, and that should give you an idea of how long it will take to make future gains based on the evidence.

You seem to be a very impatient individual. It is okay, we have all been down that road. After a while, you realize that this takes a lot of time, dedication and consistency. If you can't put yourself in the right mindset and accept the fact that this is literally going to take many years, then you will always be impatient and upset. You cannot expect your body to change on your own terms. It will happen when it happens. It is a gradual process. So please, don't do anything crazy. Just do your routine, keep at it, create a progress thread, and try and stay motivated.

I do not know what else to tell you.

Good luck.

 

[jvf1]

You can tell me what clamping is and extreme ulis and eus that you say are dangerous-It is 5”streched out around the middle-so 1/2 above that-is that all i can ever expect to get in girth is 51/2”around-it is thicker erect though. how do you not get the water you are talking about and even seems like excvess skin is getting sucked up in their.
You are not impatient, interesting. How about this I am 58-very close to the end of the road maybe that is where the difference comes from. OK-for all the science I have seen it has been 1.9”in 6 months-length-I havent seen anything on girth anywhere-only 6,000 surgeries that do not look well after the surgery and dont seem like hey will work like the ligament cutting.
Now the issue is this 1.9”-never above that is in different lenghts 1 says 4 hrs, another is 6 hrs and the other is 12 hrs a a day-all are non stop everyday without any gradual build up period and no extra using weights or lentghmasters or anything but the ads and they do not specify what the ads is. I assume it is the typical thing that looks like the stealth master but the size dr is much better than them.
But according to you, the time is your and you are talking different ligament strength, collagen… ligaments I am an expert at stretching and all my joints are way overstretched thru a scinetific method and martial arts and yoga where you are almost just forced, at least in TKD. But it cant be all ligament, or else you could just tie it to your leg and let it yank gradually further and further and stretching always involves some level of pain just like lifting weights does. You could also just sit there and do extreme strectching for a few hours a few x a month. That is what I would do that got me to further than splits.
2 factors I am concerned about is the urethra-so now problem occur fro stretching it inches longer than it was and this frenulum thing is very tight and a mass gourd of skin ballons up around it when I use the lengthmaste and it just seems to be holding it back. I found you cant just cut it but heard about tying it off which seems dangerous is there a specific frenulum stretcher
Also if you cant use your hands in the 5x5x3 then what are you supposed to do
Thanks fror writing back and what happened to DLD-I am to long-winded and you hate people writing in caps?

 

[Grandmaster]

jvf1,

You can tell me what clamping is and extreme ulis and eus that you say are dangerous

On the main page, scroll down and click on "device forum". There, you will find the clamping forum, and you can read all about it.
EU's are similar to clamping, except they are more intense. Long story short, it is just a one inch long flexible PVC pipe with a section of it removed (looks like a "C"). You round off the edges and put a hose clamp over it. Then, after wrapping the base, you would stimulate yourself as you're tightening down.
I suggest you read the clamping thread to learn more about it.
If I were you, I would just look into clamping. Forget EU's. Learn how to clamp first. It is safer.

It is 5”streched out around the middle-so 1/2 above that-is that all i can ever expect to get in girth is 51/2”around-it is thicker erect though.

I am talking about erect girth. You want to be around a half inch more in erect girth after your session.

how do you not get the water you are talking about and even seems like excvess skin is getting sucked up in their.

I don't know about the skin getting sucked in, but fluid retention is completely normal after girth work. You can milk it after your session without getting engorged; this will help in removing excess fluid a bit quicker. Kind of like a deep tissue massage, but without excess blood in the shaft. It will go away on its own, usually by the next day.

frenulum thing is very tight and a mass gourd of skin ballons up around it when I use the lengthmaste and it just seems to be holding it back. I found you cant just cut it but heard about tying it off which seems dangerous is there a specific frenulum stretcher

Do not cut anything. Ever. I told you before, and I'll tell you again: you are doing WAY TOO MUCH. That is why you are having problems; blisters, pain, etc. Why do you insist on torturing yourself? You will not gain more by suffering than not suffering. I told you, you need to simplify, or you will keep running into a wall. Choose between LM and extender. Do not do both.
Too many guys have illusions about "more is better," "go big or go home," and all of that nonsense. This is not the gym. You are not building muscle, you are stretching tissue. It is a completely different ball game, but most guys approach this with the same mindset as they would training. And guess what, they'll do 10 hours a day, all in, blah, blah, blah, macho bullshit, and you never hear from them again 6 weeks later. Oh, maybe they'll come back a year later, all fired up again, with high T energy, and quit again after two months because they're not getting the results they expected. I have done all of that myself, so I understand it. A word of advice: slow and steady wins the race.
Focus on QUALITY, not QUANTITY.
You must simplify your routine.

 

[jvf1]

I dont need any philosophy from you, my brother is the master of that. Go big or go home is not what I am talking about.Psychologically after 30 years of therapy, i know that what you have doesnt matter and i am sure the average woman is fine with 6”by 5”. These are not the women I get with. They have all been with much bigger guys and the requirement isnt about are you big enough as in “are you man enough”But Are you big enough to not fall out while we are going for it, thats the deal. So, I would tell a shrink-you are wrong this isnt a psych problem. I had no problem for 45 years as it is but I dont know what happened the game has changed I guess. At least for me.
The clamping sounds a bit insane. I aint cutting anything, though I would like to tie it off, and you have made it clear that it will take longer than 6 months-at least I am aware of the facts now. I will take your word, that you and all these others arent involved in some money making scam to sell all this equipment and you can actually get bigger, not to “Go big or go home”but to do the job(yes the job-this aint about love, passion romance anymore-those days are long gone).
Now why would I have the length master and not use it before the ads or the weights before the ads. This is why I got all this shit. The stuff I read said do the lm and then attach, i even read Ï am working on a way to stay stretched over night. Ok this must not be DLD-I read his programs and it was way different then how you are talking. I watched those videos and from what I heard he went pretty fanatical and extreme.
I dont care about blisters and pain. As a matter of fact I am trying to figure out an acceptable amount of pain for everything I do in my life.On top of that I have constant or chronic pain anyway so fuck.
Anyways, you have been great, the only person who really answered my questions and taught me some things and gave some ok advice-I couldnt go in an easy manner, if I was already huge-that is just not me. I have already chilled a bit. I waited until this enormous blister healed befor going longer than 2 hours and I didnt use a vacuum. Hydro -colloidal bandages.
Who is gash-king and what is Hmmm about
Thank you,
I dont like this eu or clamping idea though

 

[Grandmaster]

jvf1,

I am a registered member here for 6 years and have never posted anything until a few days ago. Trust me, I am not here to sell you anything, haha. Just here to help.

I am happy to hear that you've chilled a bit; however, you should care about getting blisters and having pain. If that is happening, it means that you are overdoing it, or you are not currently conditioned to whatever routine you are doing. Conditioning can take a lot of time, depending how intense your routine is.

All I am saying is to tone it down a bit, condition your tissues, and see if you can add more stress later. You have to do it gradually, not all at once, thinking that more is better.

If you insist on using all the tools you have, then fine. But if you're having problems like pain, blisters, etc... then that is not good. At that point you need to make some adjustments.

Most people here are following DLDs suggestions, such as using the LM to break down tissue, followed by wearing an ADS to heal in an extended state. I have no issue with this at all. However, please realize that it will take some time for your body to adjust, and you would be wise to listen to your body when it tells you to back off.

I personally believe in focusing on length first, and doing girth afterwards, for many reasons. But I am not here to convince you of anything. You do whatever you feel is best for you.

Anyways, it has been nice talking to you. I wish you all the best in your journey. If you have anymore questions, you can always ask.

On a side note, I always thought that the older a guy gets, the less he gives a shit about what others think. So, I am kind of surprised that you are putting yourself through all of this at 58, strictly for the size queens out there. Fuck them. If they don't like what they see, then find someone else. Have you seen some of the dildos out there that women use? You will never be able to compete with those sizes. EVER. Do it for you, for your own satisfaction. The rest is just a bonus. That is how I look at it, anyway.

Take care, brother. And good luck. Hopefully, DLD will answer you soon.

Peace.

 

[DLD]

jvf1,

I am a registered member here for 6 years and have never posted anything until a few days ago. Trust me, I am not here to sell you anything, haha. Just here to help.

I am happy to hear that you've chilled a bit; however, you should care about getting blisters and having pain. If that is happening, it means that you are overdoing it, or you are not currently conditioned to whatever routine you are doing. Conditioning can take a lot of time, depending how intense your routine is.

All I am saying is to tone it down a bit, condition your tissues, and see if you can add more stress later. You have to do it gradually, not all at once, thinking that more is better.

If you insist on using all the tools you have, then fine. But if you're having problems like pain, blisters, etc... then that is not good. At that point you need to make some adjustments.

Most people here are following DLDs suggestions, such as using the LM to break down tissue, followed by wearing an ADS to heal in an extended state. I have no issue with this at all. However, please realize that it will take some time for your body to adjust, and you would be wise to listen to your body when it tells you to back off.

I personally believe in focusing on length first, and doing girth afterwards, for many reasons. But I am not here to convince you of anything. You do whatever you feel is best for you.

Anyways, it has been nice talking to you. I wish you all the best in your journey. If you have anymore questions, you can always ask.

On a side note, I always thought that the older a guy gets, the less he gives a shit about what others think. So, I am kind of surprised that you are putting yourself through all of this at 58, strictly for the size queens out there. Fuck them. If they don't like what they see, then find someone else. Have you seen some of the dildos out there that women use? You will never be able to compete with those sizes. EVER. Do it for you, for your own satisfaction. The rest is just a bonus. That is how I look at it, anyway.

Take care, brother. And good luck. Hopefully, DLD will answer you soon.

Peace.

What questions need answered?

 

[Grandmaster]

DLD,

There are a couple of questions on the first page that I replied to, but I think he wants them answered by you.

 

[jvf1]

You answered them DLD thanks but you just told me to chill out-like our friend above did in his last post before this very last one. Both of you clarified 1 thing for me. This aint no 6 month and I am done activity. That has to be removed from all the shit I see out there because everybody wants 6 months, because this task requires more time than just the 4-6 or 12 hours needed to stay attached or the money it takes to buy the initial product. Stuff breaks and wears out all the time which equals re-purchases. You need time to clean yourself and yiur equipment, time to apply the sleeves to the devices, the devices to you, the oils, the drops, spills. The time to stay attached or do any of the activities is not all the time required and like you said, you have to do your own personal experimentation. Ok
So, Grandmaster-it says you are new, 58 does not make any difference in what you think about people thinking about you.
However, you paid attention to my questions about this activity and answered me very clearly but you did not pay attention to what I said about why I am doing this. This is not about any size queens out there whatever the fuck that is. This about women who do this activity for a living and dont get to choose what size they will be working with. Now, if you have been screwing a 9”guy that morning and I come over with 6”and you are a pro-you dont say anything about it(although there are some comeddiene girls who can make you laugh without insulting you and they crack me up, even though they have said your “mighty penis willreally hurt me as a joke“,-only 2 of them ever did that and they made me laugh). So, none of them are Size queens but they are for lack of a better term “Queen Sized”(if any providers out there read this-I am not fucking insulting you so dont let this piss you off) and my 6”does not go in enough to stay in when it gets heavy, girth is also a problem, maybe more so-I dont know-it just pisses me off when it happens and then I am basically done.
Now you get it. If they laughed at me in a negative way, they would lose business. If they are smart-then I can laugh at myself-6”may be averagefor the American male and only 15% are 7”and 2% over 8“, but it seems small to me when I look at it. The problem is with the activity-which I consider my job. I have never run into a woman that actually said size matters and your not big enough (maybe 1 or 2). I have seen the didos and vibrators some women use but again the average vibrator is 6”and from the research women say 5.9”for husband 63/4’for 1 night stand. But like you said go to a sex shop and you will see 13”, 10”. 9”girth … Whatever -Fuck-you have me explaining myself to you.
When you get 58 I may be long dead but look for jvf1 if you are still here and then you can tell me about your life experience. Or guess what, you wont have to because you found this when you were young and I didnt even know this existed until I was this age and it actually didsnt exist in this professional way it seems until not very long ago, Grandmaster.
Whats up with the names you guys use?
Thanks you both have clarified everything and maybe I have clarified something for you. When I was younger it would have been cool to “look“ bigger, but it didnt matter for some reason back then and I would actually do nude modeling for Art schools in Phoenix and stayed at Blacks beach-nude beach in San Diego for months at a x without any thought of getting bigger. Hah! Life Changes dont it!

 

[Grandmaster]

jvf1,

I am glad we clarified something for you.

I think I understand where you're coming from now.

Good luck in your journey, and if you have anymore questions, we would be happy to help you.

Cheers!

 

[DLD]

jvf1,

I am glad we clarified something for you.

I think I understand where you're coming from now.

Good luck in your journey, and if you have anymore questions, we would be happy to help you.

Cheers!

Good luck is right