MOSRED Benefits of Red/NIR light therapy
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I haven't realized this before, but I think this is a big factor in my progression.
I found this (outside resource of information).
What does collagen do?
It has to benefit in how fast you can grow your penis?
Should probably do more research before I state this fact. But I don't think I need to. The results speaks for itself. Just faster healing time is amazing in itself.
I sit really close to MOS-RED as well. 15 minutes after every session. Collagen production seams to go down after the year you are 30, and I'm 33 years old now.
Just amazing.
I'm using it after session 15 min to 30 minutes, without it, It would not work for me. You need all the healing and growth that you can get.
You can also use it before session.
Just to update fellow brothers on the usage of MOS Red, I think you can go a bit crazy based on the new found info from the geeks on my side. MOS Shop indicated the MOS Red has an irradiance level of 100 mW/cm^2. Actually, the geeks measured with an expensive ($2.5K) spectrometer at a field lab and reported back less compared to a common cheap solar meter measuring device used by many companies. I had my BioMax 900 tested at the same time, and the result was shocking. Damn marketing improper use of equipment.
Anywho, @squirt_inducer_man used 15 mins pre and 15 mins post with great success in warm-up and healing processes may a struck a factual cord. Measurement at 6-in away, the spectrometer for MOS Red came back at only 44 mW/cm^2, with an average of 38 mW/cm^2 measurement at 9 different spots throughout the surface areas of lights. It actually mirrors the same results as my BioMax 900. If you move further than 6-in, it drops drastically.
So, considering the measurements, at 44 mW/cm^2, you're getting a hefty dose of 25 J/cm^2 at around 9 minutes. At 15 minutes, you're getting an exceeding 40 J/cm^2. Do know that you're getting a bioaccumulative dose. The diminishing return drops drastically at 25 J/cm^2. Multiple medical and science publications going back as far as 1980s verified this.
So, think about the dose you need brothers. Cut back to around 5 minutes of warm up and 5 minutes of post PE, or combination of time, for healing each day for healthier dosages. 15 to 20 minutes total each day may be a tad high, but it does compensate for those odd distances away from the light due to movements and receive less doses. 30 minutes, we're entering into diminishing of returns territory. Just something to think about, but you don't have to take my word for it.
Looking Forward to @squirt_inducer_man answer
Only 15 min after session (not before), sometimes 30 min after but that was not often. The heat penetration after 15 minutes into the tissue, makes your stretched turteling penis unturtle again.
After 15 min it hangs loose, and before it retracted a bit.
I find myself forgetting using MOS RED now when I'm only doing girthwork. Should probably start using it more consistent again. Length work was a different kind of animal. I believe MOS RED mad it possible to grow fast. Without the reduction of discoloration in the glans it would not have been possible to stretch with that insane intensity.
What about collagen production boost?
15 minutes is perfectly fine actually. I don't think most people can just sit 6in away unless you're placing the unit practically on your lap. It should either be within the 30 to 40 mW/cm^2 around 10in away. The boys indicated the 12in distance has a 28 mW/cm^2. That's a considerable drop of irradiance.
Do use it more consistently as the daily dose will assist with collagen expression and production. Collagen boosting effects start at 3 J/cm^2 starting at the irradiance level of 5 mW/cm^2. So, you're golden with the exposure dosage of 15 minutes between 6 to 12 inches away. At 12 inches away, you can even double dosing yourself for 15 before and 15 minutes after and still be within the limit. My wife noticed the dosing level of 25 J/cm^2 on our red light unit as well. Her skin is getting more firm and radiant. Collagen boost should be daily when possible within the 15 minutes dosing period.
Do use it more consistently as the daily dose will assist with collagen expression and production. Collagen boosting effects start at 3 J/cm^2 starting at the irradiance level of 5 mW/cm^2. So, you're golden with the exposure dosage of 15 minutes between 6 to 12 inches away. At 12 inches away, you can even double dosing yourself for 15 before and 15 minutes after and still be within the limit. My wife noticed the dosing level of 25 J/cm^2 on our red light unit as well. Her skin is getting more firm and radiant. Collagen boost should be daily when possible within the 15 minutes dosing period.
@DLD If you have pain, use the MOS Red at surface level daily. At surface level, the irradiance level is 87 mW/cm^2. Based on the measurement, it should penetrate down to 8mm, which is roughly your muscles. It doesn't reach the bone. Run for 5 minutes to be on the safe side daily, while extreme end of 15 minutes if your skin don't heat up too much. Unfortunately, MOS Red doesn't have the concentrated spectrum of 610-630nm and 910-950nm. These ranges are the golden ranges for high end arthritis-inflammatory suppression and deep muscle tissue healing. However, 650nm-680nm range is muscle relaxation and promoting healing, while 720nm-850nm is deep tissue for inflammatory and pain reduction.
I highly recommend using Mos red before girth sessions. It makes it easier to achieve full erections as it has nitric oxide boosting effects (similar to citrulline). Combining them both are
Just a suggestion, if you are using MOS Red and arginine or citrulline, use the red light therapy 60 minutes after consuming either. Even better, do a bit of light exercise to get the blood flowing after taking either, and then use the red light therapy. You'll see a unique blood flow and skin glow if you do this. Clinical trials of red light therapy also suggests you to use the light treatment 30 minutes after a good light or intense exercise to generate great results. Same for PE as you can deliver even higher NOx to your penis.
Have we not made a conclusion that arginine are useless to use as a supplement, in order to increase nitric oxide production?
Yes and no. It feels very weird to say it like that, but the reasons are two folds.
- If we are comparing arginine to citrulline one on one, yes, citrulline will take precedent as evidence shown.
- However, the flip side to this is citrulline needs a driver mechanism to deliver into the blood stream effectively, which is where the malate comes in. Arginine, when combined with other fast absorbing amino acids, proteins and drivers such as acids and sugars, arginine can actually work very well, equally on par as citrulline. But as you can see, more tandem components are needed to max out the arginine potentials. I have study papers on this if you need it.
I just want to say that you can make it without L-Citrulline, I relied on food, sleep, MOS RED and my other supplements.
It may look alot but it's only, 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4 different supplements.
It may look alot but it's only, 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4 different supplements.
Just to remind anyone interested in the MOSRED it is on sale now plus you can take an additional 18% off using coupon code MOS18
MosMaster
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My brotha, we’re taking the same Core Man vitamins! That’s cool. What made you choose them?
They’re the most all-rounded and generous dosed multivitamins I’ve found and still good price! That’s why I choose them. Been taking exactly this one for years.
Regarding citrulline, also very cheap and you should just try a bottle one of these days as I think you’ve never taking it with PE? I think you’ll be surprised by the effectiveness!
Cool we are taking the same (Core Man Vitamins)!
I have been a customer at that store since: 2008-12-28.
I will try L-Citrulline with PE, maybe I will get a super dick.
I take these becouse Apotekets multivitamins are worthless!
colossaltitan
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There is great research suggesting that citrulline greatly aids with the recovery of the endothelial tissue, which is tissue that is routinely being broekn down when it comes to PE.Cool we are taking the same (Core Man Vitamins)!
I have been a customer at that store since: 2008-12-28.
I will try L-Citrulline with PE, maybe I will get a super dick.
I take these becouse Apotekets multivitamins are worthless!
We need someone to experiment with this and keep very good track of their growth to give us an understanding if it truly works
colossaltitan
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Nothing will make you gain like LengthMaster 3.
I did not use L-Citrulline.
Do you dismiss the power of bundled stretches?
I do bundle stretches, in broken down smaller combos. Since I use ADS all day, I also incorporate part of that bundle stretches throughout the day at lowe intensity. I use a different combo during hanging while I stretch my whole body.
MosMaster
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Citrulline are more for recovery and EQ.
For example, now when I’m only doing length I do not use it (however, it is in my pre-workout drink I use before gym so I get 8 grams of it on workout days).
But I definitely will use it everyday before girth sessions when I start girth again. You can also take a dose of it before bed to increase the quality of your nocturnal erections. And therefore increase the recovery of the tissues. Could also be used before bed when you focus on length for this same purpose.
Any stretch you want to do can be done bundled, increasing the rate of gain.If you want fast gains, you want to do only bundled stretches.
Better yet do every.Stretch bundled using the lengthmaster which gives unlimited power to your stretch
bemorethanbig
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1. for sure it helps with healing, that's a fact
2. On PE we still need more research on why it is working so well
2a. Either it heats up well and shortens your sessions, so same workout but less time
2b. Or the heat in general helps with gains
With just one of those reasons it is enough to make it a habit
Sounds like I could get rid of the rice sock. That's a pain. I just bought a LM. I've had one before, but It was hurting me do to past surgeries. So im gonna give it another shot. I know it works. The girl I was dating started squirting after about 2 months using the LM. So im gonna try to figure out how to keep from pulling so hard and affecting the surgical areas. Might get the red light next month.
You're in for a treat. MOSRED and Lengthmaster are such a powerful combination in healing and gaining
That's what's up!
bemorethanbig
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Amazing update