Beginner Issues

webbdude

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I did PE for a short period of time maybe 15 years ago (2008/2009). Just a few months. Actually saw about 1/2 to maybe 2/3 inch in increase and then stopped. Eventually lost those gains. Main reason I stopped is because although I could technically see gains on the ruler and knew it was a little bigger. To my eye it didn't look much bigger and wasn't sure the results achieved warranted the time, energy and effort required. So I stopped. I started again in October 2023. Flacid stretch measuring I gained about 1 and 3/4 inch gain. Problem is I'm not sure it ever translated into erect gains. If so not much. Secondly, since I started my penis turtles all the time, became a little desensitized, but most importantly really tough to get an erection and even tougher to maintain an erection, even during sex. Just goes limp. I connect this directly to PE exercises. So I stopped last Thursday and just hoping my penis recovers. Any input or insight? Thx.
 
Poor EQ is usually a sign of fatigue and means you should take a day or 2 off from PE.
the gains that you saw in just a few months are incredible! However they were most likely temporary elongation, it takes more time for collagen synthesis to produce a notable increase in length gains that will remain permanent.

Another thing I would add about poor EQ is if you are watching adult entertainment then you must stop immediately, that will ruin your sex life and desensitise you for as long as you are watching it.

As for the turtling, that is something that can be solved by using a wrap or even an extender device, you're penis cannot turtle when wearing these.

In terms of your routine as a whole, what exercises are you doing? Which device are you using if any? Give us a piece of the string to help you out.
 
Silisleev 2 works great for turtling if you don't want to wrap. I've been wearing them for about a month and my FL is much better even when taking a day off. Just make sure you can fit and get the right size.
 
I was doing the beginner routine. I have no equipment. Probably a little too aggressive. Working from home currently in a virtual training class and I just keep my camera off. Gives me a lot of time to PE throughout the day. I start with the bundle stretching. Then the down stretch routine, outward stretch routine, and upward stretch routine. I do 40 second stretches with maybe 30 cranks both ways. Do this 3 to 4 times a day, 4 to 5 days a week and rest on the weekend. 200 jelqs 2-3 times a week. I was stretching/pulling really hard. Gets to a point throughout the week where I can actually feel the ligament elongating as I pull. Almost like stretching a taffy. Scares me and I'll stop as I am afraid I might really injure myself. I don't really watch adult entertainment. I could be wrong but I think my issue might be the constant handling and aggressive manual manipulation of my penis. I think it might be fatigue as you stated. You said a couple of days. I think I might need a few weeks to recover.
 
I would limit your PE to one session per day, 2 at most. Especially for a beginner that is a lot and believe me your penis needs time to heal.

A general rule of thumb is that there should not be any pain when performing your exercises and you should gradually increase the intensity as you go along.

A few weeks will probably not be necessary, the penis is very resistant and heals very quickly. Give it a week, see how you feel, then restart or give it another few days if necessary.
 
Based on your response I am way over working myself. I'll rest up and pull back on the sessions. I was aggressive but getting results. The more results I saw the more aggressive I became. Thx
 
Based on your response I am way over working myself. I'll rest up and pull back on the sessions. I was aggressive but getting results. The more results I saw the more aggressive I became. Thx
No problem brother! Let us know if there's anything else you're needing help with.
 
I was doing the beginner routine. I have no equipment. Probably a little too aggressive. Working from home currently in a virtual training class and I just keep my camera off. Gives me a lot of time to PE throughout the day. I start with the bundle stretching. Then the down stretch routine, outward stretch routine, and upward stretch routine. I do 40 second stretches with maybe 30 cranks both ways. Do this 3 to 4 times a day, 4 to 5 days a week and rest on the weekend. 200 jelqs 2-3 times a week. I was stretching/pulling really hard. Gets to a point throughout the week where I can actually feel the ligament elongating as I pull. Almost like stretching a taffy. Scares me and I'll stop as I am afraid I might really injure myself. I don't really watch adult entertainment. I could be wrong but I think my issue might be the constant handling and aggressive manual manipulation of my penis. I think it might be fatigue as you stated. You said a couple of days. I think I might need a few weeks to recover.
sounds like your doing a great job, keep at it.
 
Based on your response I am way over working myself. I'll rest up and pull back on the sessions. I was aggressive but getting results. The more results I saw the more aggressive I became. Thx
Look at this.
📹 Behind The Cheeks-Bundled Stretches (5D-BTC-BS), view from the backside.

The penis is really tough. The key is to increase the intensity progressively, until you can get to full intensity. Personally I have done maximum of 1 hour per day of manual stretches. When I was starting I did 30 minutes x 2 times each day with my hands and a broomstick.

Now with LengthMaster 3 it's enough with 40 minutes per day or 20 minutes. Recovery and healing is as important as active stretching. Try to find the optimal level for you. 3 days on 1 day rest works for myself.
 
Only did two sessions yesterday and woke up with erection. Maintained a pretty good erection for several minutes. This is progress in the right direction as I could barely get erect at all or er the weekend. Only did two sessions today and can already tell that the decrease in a activity is helping. Have actually did really good with gains since beginning PE in October. Just want to make sure that gains I achieve remain.
 
Ive been gone a minute but Got some good news. I had erection issues so I stopped PE all of 2024. It gradually improved through the year. Im much better but still not 100%. Now to the good news. I was about 215 pounds in college. In my prime my penis erect length none bone press was 5 3/4 inches. I know they say that is average. Didn’t feel average to me. I ballooned up to 270 pounds and my penis erect length dropped to 5 1/2 inches. I started PE October 2023. Was over zealous through December 2023. Saw gains but stopped because of the aforementioned issues. I couldnt do any erect length measurements in 2024 to see if I gained or what I gained because my penis didnt work right and definitely wouldnt get erect for a measurement. I dropped 20 pounds. Down to 250 pounds. Did a none bone press erect length measurement last night 6 1/2 inches. Gained a whole inch from my 2 and a half months of PE in 2023. Kind of unbelievable for me. I really want to restart PE again and steal another inch, but dont want to deal with ED like last time.
 
Ive been gone a minute but Got some good news. I had erection issues so I stopped PE all of 2024. It gradually improved through the year. Im much better but still not 100%. Now to the good news. I was about 215 pounds in college. In my prime my penis erect length none bone press was 5 3/4 inches. I know they say that is average. Didn’t feel average to me. I ballooned up to 270 pounds and my penis erect length dropped to 5 1/2 inches. I started PE October 2023. Was over zealous through December 2023. Saw gains but stopped because of the aforementioned issues. I couldnt do any erect length measurements in 2024 to see if I gained or what I gained because my penis didnt work right and definitely wouldnt get erect for a measurement. I dropped 20 pounds. Down to 250 pounds. Did a none bone press erect length measurement last night 6 1/2 inches. Gained a whole inch from my 2 and a half months of PE in 2023. Kind of unbelievable for me. I really want to restart PE again and steal another inch, but dont want to deal with ED like last time.
As life motto under PE, it's a life long journey to keep your penis healthy.
 
So I discussed the fear in resuming PE because the ED issues that I started experiencing. But with the results I achieves through PE of course I couldnt help myslef and started PE again. Unfortunately the EQ issues resurfaced pretty much immediately. So once again I had to stop. Since stopping I think my EQ is back to 100%. Havent been there in almost 2 years. I guess its a double edged sword for me. PE works for me but also causes ED problems. Sucks…
 
So I discussed the fear in resuming PE because the ED issues that I started experiencing. But with the results I achieves through PE of course I couldnt help myslef and started PE again. Unfortunately the EQ issues resurfaced pretty much immediately. So once again I had to stop. Since stopping I think my EQ is back to 100%. Havent been there in almost 2 years. I guess its a double edged sword for me. PE works for me but also causes ED problems. Sucks…

Let's break down to where the PE routines cause the ED issue. Mind providing the exercises, time, and intensities you subjected yourself under? I believe I may already know the root causes.
 
I was doing the beginner routine. I have no equipment. Probably was a little too aggressive. I stared with the bundle stretching. Then the down stretch routine, outward stretch routine, and upward stretch routine. I do 40 second stretches with maybe 30 cranks both ways. Was doing Do this 3 to 4 times a day, 4 to 5 days a week and rest on the weekend. 200 jelqs 2-3 times a week. I was stretching/pulling really hard. Got some advise and was told I was overworking so I stopped to maybe Two routines per day. I think my issue might be the constant handling and aggressive manual manipulation of my penis. From my research on the internet I came to the conclusion I was suffering from death grip syndrome because of how aggressive I was with PE routines.
 
I was doing the beginner routine. I have no equipment. Probably was a little too aggressive. I stared with the bundle stretching. Then the down stretch routine, outward stretch routine, and upward stretch routine. I do 40 second stretches with maybe 30 cranks both ways. Was doing Do this 3 to 4 times a day

This adds way too much stress to the tissues. Try to start out 1 to 2 times a day if you're going too aggressive. When you are doing 1 to 2 times a day, space out at least 6 hours so the tissues can reset. It's like you're working out 3 to 4 times a day, pumping weights until your body drops. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.

4 to 5 days a week and rest on the weekend.

This is fine. But try to crank it back down to 1 or 2 times a day. My suggestion is 3 days on and a day off for now. Let's see if EQ remains strong after each session, and after each day. Preconditioning is required before you go crazy again.

200 jelqs 2-3 times a week.

This is standard. But pairing up with 3 to 4 times a day, all penis will fail at the starting point.

I was stretching/pulling really hard. Got some advise and was told I was overworking so I stopped to maybe Two routines per day. I think my issue might be the constant handling and aggressive manual manipulation of my penis. From my research on the internet I came to the conclusion I was suffering from death grip syndrome because of how aggressive I was with PE routines.

Yep. So, ease up, back out, and lighter sessions per day. No more 3 to 4 times a day right off the bat. Ease back in.
 
I was doing the beginner routine. I have no equipment. Probably was a little too aggressive. I stared with the bundle stretching. Then the down stretch routine, outward stretch routine, and upward stretch routine. I do 40 second stretches with maybe 30 cranks both ways. Was doing Do this 3 to 4 times a day, 4 to 5 days a week and rest on the weekend. 200 jelqs 2-3 times a week. I was stretching/pulling really hard. Got some advise and was told I was overworking so I stopped to maybe Two routines per day. I think my issue might be the constant handling and aggressive manual manipulation of my penis. From my research on the internet I came to the conclusion I was suffering from death grip syndrome because of how aggressive I was with PE routines.
Take those signs and run. I didn’t get any signs. I have permanent severe ED from this crap,and I can’t feel my dick all day long . You have no idea how good you have it until you wake up like this out of the blue one day,and there’s no way back.
 
Status update. I do One routine of PE maybe once every 5 to 6 weeks. Measured yesterday. 7 inches NBPEL. Can’t believe it! All I can say is Wow! Now I have also lost over 70 pounds as well so that is also a contributing factor. But in my prime college days I was only 5 3/4 inches. 7 inches for me has always been fantasy. I still cant believe it. Think I can get to 8 inches?
 
Don't believe it as a probable dream, but set it as a possible objective and go to 9in. Remember, don't think you can gain more by pushing harder. Stay the course and progressively increase in tension according to the program. If you need more clarity, always ask for info and work smartly but consistently to get your gains to cement as you go.

Keep it up. Reporting back like this encourage the brothers while providing us on your progression for the program. It will provide a guage on where you are, what you've done, and give us the insights on how to direct you and others like you going forward.
 
Status update. I do One routine of PE maybe once every 5 to 6 weeks. Measured yesterday. 7 inches NBPEL. Can’t believe it! All I can say is Wow! Now I have also lost over 70 pounds as well so that is also a contributing factor. But in my prime college days I was only 5 3/4 inches. 7 inches for me has always been fantasy. I still cant believe it. Think I can get to 8 inches?
God bless you, bro, you just got to the stage of HUGE COCK. Spend more time on this and if you get to 8, you'll be in the monster cock.
 
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