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  • Hi mate. Firstly got to say your progress is so good.
    I've been at it for about a year with Jelqing (not SSJ's) which I probably should be doing, & using the bathmate.
    did you get permanent girth gains from using the bathmate? would normal jelqing followed by bathmate help with gaining some girth? or do I need to be doing the SSJ's instead? I don't seem to have gained any length or girth after over a year.
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    Cleareyes
    thank you so much for all the answers and apologies about all the follow up questions coming lol.
    when you say wear a sleeve all the time. do you mean when doing both girth and length work just or outside of this? is the sleeve the white see through tube I got with my silistretcher? what does wearing the sleeve help with?
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    Cleareyes
    with the newbie routine. I think I can get the hang of the 5x5x5 SSJ/bathmate routine if I can work out SSJs better. and get a full erection as ive been going in at about 70%. do you be fully erect for ssjs also? should I also be doing the manual stretches for length, as I was hoping the sili-stretcher I bought would be enough for length work.
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    Cleareyes
    will I still gain permanent girth without using cock ring as I don't have one of those and was hoping not to need one
    I haven't used silistretcher yet but plan on attempting to. do you think this alone would give me permanent length gains? finally should I think about doing normal jelqs separately and then also do the SSJ/bathmate routine later that evening. and is 5 times a week enough? THANKS!
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