Penis Health Injury using penis pump

[Vishald0810]

This has been talked about since 1963. Rather than fat grafting using the most stubborn visceral fat layers around the belly, the promotion was to grab the fat there and inject using a spiral web pattern along the dermal lining of the penis to add another inch of girth. Once the skin gives enough plasticity, the new volume of fat an be increased even further to no limit. Some actually went as large as 5in in girth doing this. I saw the results and I nearly cried in horror. This is why:

When you inject fat into the penis, even the hard visceral fat is soft. It's not hard. Think about breasts. They are full of milk ducts that are hard, but the density of the breasts comprised of fat. Soft and luscious fat that I love to play with. Imagine that soft fat used for a penis. It's like stuffing a pussy that tighten down on a soft penis that's hard as a cotton tampon. Do you really want a feeling of a cotton penis inside a tight pussy?

Fat migrates via blood steams. For those who enjoyed the fat in the penis, well, after the intense sex sessions, the fat gets pushed into the blood vessels and start to leach out slowly. Now you have additional fat in the blood stream which you don't want.

Fat can't be built up in the penis. Sorry to say, but fat normally don't get stored there. If the body thinks there is valuable resources like fat to use in times of needs, the body will suck the fat out of the penis and there is no way in getting it back unless you pump more into it. The problem is, now, you have saggy penile skin and a smaller penis.

This is why breast fat injections are less preferred over silicone and saline plants.

You probably ask how long the fat lasts? Some stats indicated the optimal girth retention goes as long as few years and some as short as 3 months. Who knows why and what the people did during that time. PE probably, or just crazy sex.

Unfortunately, if you don't have the length, girth will make you look like a short thick can. If you have the length and don't mind the pains to refill every other year for the cotton penis, you can get as large of a penis as you want. Sorry to say, but even my wife frowned upon the feeling of a water retained penis. She'll be extremely unsatisfied with a cotton penis between her legs.

Sounds creepy

 

[DLD]

One more query.
Should I resume using traction device.
Or should I wait till nerve is healed.

I only feel pinch in penis head while erection.
Or when penis head is hardly pressed against something.

Can I resume using traction device without disturbing penis head.
I mean using traction device from base of penis to point below penis head..

Please guide

Wait until you are completely healed before returning to full training

 

[bemorethanbig]

In India...
Basically I use to search videos on PE..
My youtube shows me relatable videos.
One thing is very highlighted.
Many urologists are promoting Penile Fat Grafting for girth. Using your own body fat.
One of the India's most searched urologist went to India's most popular podcast show on YouTube.
And he was openly advocating penile fat grafting for girth??

I have another post noting that the people that do this HAVE to do pumping in order to see gains. In other words, it is a medical money grab to do what responsible PE people are already doing. Those people make ZERO money unless they have an excuse to do something medical to you. There is yet any true evidence that P-shot works better than just regular pumping, but there is hard evidence that if you don't pump after the P-shot, you lose all those gains from the P-shot. I would like to see more research on people that are in REAL desperate need like recovering from cancer or something like that, where the P-shot might be OK, but for the regular person, I don't see the evidence.

In a moment of desperation 10 months ago, I almost did it, I was so depressed even though my first 1/4 gains were amazing, I still felt depressed. I am so happy I did not go this route. Instead, I researched my ass off, got here on MOS and I am now getting the right gains with 5 x5 x 3.

Trust the process, Trust the process, and yes, last but not least... Trust the process better.

 

[bemorethanbig]

Hello everyone..
It has been 4 month since I injured my Urethra with excessive pumping.

In first couple of days
It was very sudden and fast burning sensation When my penis head was pressed against clothers or jeans.

Did you do 30 min of red light daily for healing in those 4 months? wasn't that one of the top recommendations recommended?

 

[Vishald0810]

Did you do 30 min of red light daily for healing in those 4 months? wasn't that one of the top recommendations recommended?

No one recommended me...
Instead I was masturbating 2-3 times a week for lengthy time... 2-2 hours each session..
So I guess it worsened my condition.

I was beleiving slowly body itself will repair the injury in 2-3 months time.
I wasn't serious.
I did stopped using pump and traction device from 23 rd February itself

 

[Vishald0810]

Wait until you are completely healed before returning to full training

Does weight loss helps reveal hidden penis too.
I read somewhere loosing 30 pounds reveals around .75 inch of penis.

 

[oldandlively]

Does weight loss helps reveal hidden penis too.
I read somewhere loosing 30 pounds reveals around .75 inch of penis.

Yes, it will show the penis shaft hidden under the fat layer at the pubic area. If you are already skinny, no it doesn't do anything more.

 

[Vishald0810]

Yes, it will show the penis shaft hidden under the fat layer at the pubic area. If you are already skinny, no it doesn't do anything more.

I am 206 Pounds

 

[oldandlively]

I am 206 Pounds

Then yes, you can roughly recover the 0.2in of missing shaft hidden under the fat layer around the pubic area, maybe more.

 

[Vishald0810]

Then yes, you can roughly recover the 0.2in of missing shaft hidden under the fat layer around the pubic area, maybe more.

Will infrared Light help in faster healing???

 

[oldandlively]

Will infrared Light help in faster healing???

Depending on how deep the damange is. Red light does accellerate the healing process to a higher extent over natural healing. Think of it as rocket fuel for your cells. Do know that not all units are the same. The nerve branching and ending goes as deep as 6mm, practically outside of the blood chambers (corpus cavernosa). Most red light therapy, even the best on the market can't go past 3mm red light in the 600nm range alone. If you have a combo of NIR+ (I have the BioMax900), theoretically, it can go as far as 30mm when the light is literally touchhing your skin. It's all depending on what red light power rating for your equipment, and if it's verified.

The MOS Red has a rating of 10W per LED. The 10W with 810nm can go as deep as 3cm (30mm), which pushes past most center of the penis. This covers all the possible underlying branches that may be missed by weaker red light therapy system.

 

[DLD]

Yes, it will show the penis shaft hidden under the fat layer at the pubic area. If you are already skinny, no it doesn't do anything more.

Weight loss will be a powerful way to exposing the full flaccid size

 

[Vishald0810]

Depending on how deep the damange is. Red light does accellerate the healing process to a higher extent over natural healing. Think of it as rocket fuel for your cells. Do know that not all units are the same. The nerve branching and ending goes as deep as 6mm, practically outside of the blood chambers (corpus cavernosa). Most red light therapy, even the best on the market can't go past 3mm red light in the 600nm range alone. If you have a combo of NIR+ (I have the BioMax900), theoretically, it can go as far as 30mm when the light is literally touchhing your skin. It's all depending on what red light power rating for your equipment, and if it's verified.

The MOS Red has a rating of 10W per LED. The 10W with 810nm can go as deep as 3cm (30mm), which pushes past most center of the penis. This covers all the possible underlying branches that may be missed by weaker red light therapy system.

I have noticed something..
I can see a small different color patch on top of penis ...next to side urethra.. basically on penis top...
Small patch is more darker.
And it feels uneasy when I touch it..

Now I can know thata Basically this patch is issue ..it was hurting me from last few months..when it was pressed against jeans..

And I feel pinch and uncomfortable in exact same position...when I masturbate.

Basically it's the issue.
Any suggestions for that

 

[notmeanymore]

only way ive got any relief is waiting. its Been a year, and im still way way off from where i was. suggestion. never do PE again. it has ruined my entire life. EVERY day of it sucks from here on out. i had a great life until i ran across this and destroyed my life in seconds.

 

[oldandlively]

I have noticed something..
I can see a small different color patch on top of penis ...next to side urethra.. basically on penis top...
Small patch is more darker.
And it feels uneasy when I touch it..

Now I can know thata Basically this patch is issue ..it was hurting me from last few months..when it was pressed against jeans..

And I feel pinch and uncomfortable in exact same position...when I masturbate.

Basically it's the issue.
Any suggestions for that

Are you resuming PE before full healing occur or is this new symptoms coming up without PE?

 

[Vishald0810]

This is not new symptoms..
I was seeing it from quite long time.
Now I feel problem is this patch.
It got hurt while pumping.

I haven't resumed pe

 

[oldandlively]

This is not new symptoms..
I was seeing it from quite long time.
Now I feel problem is this patch.
It got hurt while pumping.

I haven't resumed pe

How long ago did the darker patch came about?

 

[Vishald0810]

How long ago did the darker patch came about?

Its from very first day of injury in pump.
Actually I never paid much attention to it earlier..

4-5 days I paid attention to it

 

[Vishald0810]

It's not that dark..
Slight difference from rest of glans color.
Even skin in that patch is Lil soft that patch

 

[oldandlively]

It's not that dark..
Slight difference from rest of glans color.
Even skin in that patch is Lil soft that patch

Ah, this is the discoloration we're talking about right now.

https://mattersofsize.com/threads/discoloration-since-8-months-still-not-going-away.1831845/

 

[Vishald0810]

Ah, this is the discoloration we're talking about right now.

https://mattersofsize.com/threads/discoloration-since-8-months-still-not-going-away.1831845/

More than discolor... Patch is causing pain and uncomfort from last 5 month.
Nerves got injured in this patch area.
Suggest me cream which I can use to cure this thing
It's about pain in that area.

When I used to masterbate..I use to feel pain in this area...pain is like something getting disconnected or torn

 

[oldandlively]

More than discolor... Patch is causing pain and uncomfort from last 5 month.
Nerves got injured in this patch area.

If the flaring pain remains, that means there's continuation of nerve damage. Only time can heal that. As we have discussed earlier, there are supplements that you can use to accelerate the healing process. Unfortunately, there's no magical healing. We're not living in the world of sword, magic, and monsters like the isekai novels out there.

Suggest me cream which I can use to cure this thing
It's about pain in that area.

There's is no magical cream. You can use cream to dull the pain for a few hours at a time, like Dr. Numb or various formulated numbing cream. You can also wear the SiliCap to prevent the nerve from sending misfiring signals due to touches. Time will heal. Other than that, look for the focused low intensity shockwave therapy (LIST) at the local clinics near you. India, China, part of Europe, Taiwan, and Mexico are the only countries I know will do some crazy things to experiment with cures and enhancements.

When I used to masterbate..I use to feel pain in this area...pain is like something getting disconnected or torn

Yes, if nerve is broken and attempting to heal, masturbation will feel like your penis is being jabbed by needles. That's nerve misfiring.

 

[Vishald0810]

If the flaring pain remains, that means there's continuation of nerve damage. Only time can heal that. As we have discussed earlier, there are supplements that you can use to accelerate the healing process. Unfortunately, there's no magical healing. We're not living in the world of sword, magic, and monsters like the isekai novels out there.


There's is no magical cream. You can use cream to dull the pain for a few hours at a time, like Dr. Numb or various formulated numbing cream. You can also wear the SiliCap to prevent the nerve from sending misfiring signals due to touches. Time will heal. Other than that, look for the focused low intensity shockwave therapy (LIST) at the local clinics near you. India, China, part of Europe, Taiwan, and Mexico are the only countries I know will do some crazy things to experiment with cures and enhancements.


Yes, if nerve is broken and attempting to heal, masturbation will feel like your penis is being jabbed by needles. That's nerve misfiring.

Will red therapy device listed on matters of size store will work same as LIST..

I didn't masturbated for 20 days..
Since you told me here.

I did 2 night ago and again started feeling pain in glans

 

[Vishald0810]

Will red therapy device listed on matters of size store will work same as LIST..

I didn't masturbated for 20 days..
Since you told me here.

I did 2 night ago and again started feeling pain in glans

I was feeling normal for 20 days.
So I felt good

2 nights ago.

Again started feeling pain

 

[Vishald0810]

I am taking Vitamin 12 tablets and Ashwagandha tablets from 20 days

 

[notmeanymore]

ive taken all that stuff plus red light for months on end with nothi ng to show for it.. if theres a way out of this , i cant seem to find it.

 

[Vishald0810]

ive taken all that stuff plus red light for months on end with nothi ng to show for it.. if theres a way out of this , i cant seem to find it.

What happened to you ??..
I may not be that worst..
I am getting erection..
It's just after 30-40 min of masturbation..
I start feeling tinch in penis glans

 

[notmeanymore]

pumping i guess. i get erections, just have to manually do it if daytime. shriveled up all day otherwise. feels like i have nothing in my pants all day. impossible to get used to

 

[Vishald0810]

pumping i guess. i get erections, just have to manually do it if daytime. shriveled up all day otherwise. feels like i have nothing in my pants all day. impossible to get used to

What about sensation and pain in glans on having erection..
Still same ??
Or improvements??

 

[notmeanymore]

its a constant battle i cant seem to win. it goes away sometimes, and just when i think this time is different, its there again. i fully hate satan, and curse the day he got in my head to convince me i should try to improve my erection with this hocus pocus crap. somehow im still alive a full year later. all i have left is praying. i literally feel like a 5 yr old unless im actively having sex

 

[Vishald0810]

its a constant battle i cant seem to win. it goes away sometimes, and just when i think this time is different, its there again. i fully hate satan, and curse the day he got in my head to convince me i should try to improve my erection with this hocus pocus crap. somehow im still alive a full year later. all i have left is praying. i literally feel like a 5 yr old unless im actively having sex

Do you instantly have pain on erection??
Or it comes after sometime...

 

[notmeanymore]

i have more while flaccid. im pretty much a worthless human now. just tryig to stay working to support my family while i can. otherwise, i dont feel like living at all. everyone just constantly says "it will heal" . my hope is dying away.

 

[oldandlively]

Will red therapy device listed on matters of size store will work same as LIST..

No. Red light promotes healing. LIST breaks down the cells to allow faster rebuild of cells.

The best comparison is the LIST acts as a mechanic that removes the car completely apart, repair the needed parts, and reassembles the car back as best as the mechanic can. Red light is the mechanic just trying to fix the broken car parts, but there are other hidden damages that cannot be reached without removing the car apart.

I didn't masturbated for 20 days..
Since you told me here.

That is a good thing.

I did 2 night ago and again started feeling pain in glans

And bad. The glans may still need a bit more time to heal. Nerve healing is unpredictable. Some takes 5 days, average about 6 weeks, and some takes months. My nerves in my legs took nearly 1.5 years to heal properly. The one in my arm took close to a year. The ones in my fingers took 3.

 

[Vishald0810]

Any chance

No. Red light promotes healing. LIST breaks down the cells to allow faster rebuild of cells.

The best comparison is the LIST acts as a mechanic that removes the car completely apart, repair the needed parts, and reassembles the car back as best as the mechanic can. Red light is the mechanic just trying to fix the broken car parts, but there are other hidden damages that cannot be reached without removing the car apart.


That is a good thing.


And bad. The glans may still need a bit more time to heal. Nerve healing is unpredictable. Some takes 5 days, average about 6 weeks, and some takes months. My nerves in my legs took nearly 1.5 years to heal properly. The one in my arm took close to a year. The ones in my fingers took 3.

Any chance that shockwave therapy might even worsen it.
I have a urologist here who does both shockwave therapy and PSHOT.

Well I had one PSHOT session with him in July 2022. It did it mainly bcz I read somewhere PShot along vaccum pump increases girth.

Well he took my blood.. then he took that prp thing from blood and injected it into penis.
But he injection in penis body.
He never injected in glans that day.
Should I tell him problem and ask him to inject in glans too

 

[bemorethanbig]

@V you have to tell us from the start you had a P-shot, shooting your glans will not improve your situation. Again as OldandL has said, you must rest , rest and rest.

There is no miracle here, the only miracle happens with patience , dedication ,and longevity.

You need to go to 2 urologist that would never recommend a P-shot in order for you to know the exact injury you have.

It's almost like you keep asking us why is my bicep not growing when you have a dislocated shoulder and are asking if something like an injection or pill will cure and grow your biceps. You need a full reset. Give it 3 months of nothing but 2 times a week water pumping for no more than 15 min less at 5hg and less. Then come back to this with a new routine and make sure your doctor has cleared your injury.

 

[Vishald0810]

@V you have to tell us from the start you had a P-shot, shooting your glans will not improve your situation. Again as OldandL has said, you must rest , rest and rest.

There is no miracle here, the only miracle happens with patience , dedication ,and longevity.

You need to go to 2 urologist that would never recommend a P-shot in order for you to know the exact injury you have.

It's almost like you keep asking us why is my bicep not growing when you have a dislocated shoulder and are asking if something like an injection or pill will cure and grow your biceps. You need a full reset. Give it 3 months of nothing but 2 times a week water pumping for no more than 15 min less at 5hg and less. Then come back to this with a new routine and make sure your doctor has cleared your injury.

I had a PShot in July 2022...
It was fine .
I was pumping daily for 30 min..
But in February 2024..
I started over doing it..
1 hour in morning..
30 min evening..
That's actually where I injured myself..

 

[Vishald0810]

@V you have to tell us from the start you had a P-shot, shooting your glans will not improve your situation. Again as OldandL has said, you must rest , rest and rest.

There is no miracle here, the only miracle happens with patience , dedication ,and longevity.

You need to go to 2 urologist that would never recommend a P-shot in order for you to know the exact injury you have.

It's almost like you keep asking us why is my bicep not growing when you have a dislocated shoulder and are asking if something like an injection or pill will cure and grow your biceps. You need a full reset. Give it 3 months of nothing but 2 times a week water pumping for no more than 15 min less at 5hg and less. Then come back to this with a new routine and make sure your doctor has cleared your injury.

Right now water pumping might worsen it.
Me taking full rest till new year..
No rubbing .
No PE
No Masturbation.
Full off till new year
Plus buying red light box from mos

 

[oldandlively]

Should I tell him problem and ask him to inject in glans too

Ask for his recommendation.

There are a lot of nerve endings around the glans, so he may not do it.

 

[Vishald0810]

Ask for his recommendation.

There are a lot of nerve endings around the glans, so he may not do it.

Bemorebig bro is advocating against PShot and LIST??

 

[oldandlively]

Bemorebig bro is advocating against PShot and LIST??

No. We simply recommended you to have multiple medical professionals' perspectives for the best approaches for your medical needs after examinations. I will do a recommendation from my perspective after seeing your full medical charts for the past 10 years, including current blood works and vitals. Otherwise, I only will tell you the availability of medical advancement out there for you to consult with.

 

[Vishald0810]

No. We simply recommended you to have multiple medical professionals' perspectives for the best approaches for your medical needs after examinations. I will do a recommendation from my perspective after seeing your full medical charts for the past 10 years, including current blood works and vitals. Otherwise, I only will tell you the availability of medical advancement out there for you to consult with.

I will visit urologist next Monday..
Do have any info about BPC 157 oral supplements???

 

[oldandlively]

I will visit urologist next Monday..
Do have any info about BPC 157 oral supplements???

Yes, I know about this. It was experimental for the past 5 years, mainly for animals. However it does show side effects beneficially for human consumption. It is not approved for human consumption however. You can try to see if it works for you. Do you remember, it meant as experimental supplements.

 

[Vishald0810]

Yes, I know about this. It was experimental for the past 5 years, mainly for animals. However it does show side effects beneficially for human consumption. It is not approved for human consumption however. You can try to see if it works for you. Do you remember, it meant as experimental supplements.

I am buying oral pills from USA store.

Can you tell how much quantity one should take and for how long....

 

[oldandlively]

I am buying oral pills from USA store.

Can you tell how much quantity one should take and for how long....

I'm not certain if BPC 157 pentadecapeptide promoted healing from oral consumption as effectively as injection. The common concentration to use is around 500mg to 1,000mg for expedited healing for oral or so the medical journals said. In reality, it's 10ug/kg. How many pills? Based on how many grams you need from the manufacturer you get it from, and based on your weight. Let's say you are 100kg, just to round things off, medical journals indicated that 10mg is enough. There's also a conflict of info that 200mg is considered as the lowest, and 1000mg is considered as the maximum. Your body will build up the bioavailabilities for usage and dump the rest that it doesn't need. But the BPC 157 is still an unknown peptide under bioaccumulation in your system. There is no adverse effects known yet when the concentration is too high over time. This is why it's experimental and not encouraged for human consumption yet. Like that stop us from being guinea pigs.

Just do take the supplements with a huge bottle of salt, knowing that it's experimental.

 

[Vishald0810]

I'm not certain if BPC 157 pentadecapeptide promoted healing from oral consumption as effectively as injection. The common concentration to use is around 500mg to 1,000mg for expedited healing for oral or so the medical journals said. In reality, it's 10ug/kg. How many pills? Based on how many grams you need from the manufacturer you get it from, and based on your weight. Let's say you are 100kg, just to round things off, medical journals indicated that 10mg is enough. There's also a conflict of info that 200mg is considered as the lowest, and 1000mg is considered as the maximum. Your body will build up the bioavailabilities for usage and dump the rest that it doesn't need. But the BPC 157 is still an unknown peptide under bioaccumulation in your system. There is no adverse effects known yet when the concentration is too high over time. This is why it's experimental and not encouraged for human consumption yet. Like that stop us from being guinea pigs.

Just do take the supplements with a huge bottle of salt, knowing that it's experimental.

Injection..
It's injected in stomach ???

 

[oldandlively]

Injection..
It's injected in stomach ???

Nope. Straight into the penis where the nerves are damaged. Ouchy..

 

[Vishald0810]

Nope. Straight into the penis where the nerves are damaged. Ouchy..

Hydrocortisone ?? Should I try apply it..
I have decided to take 6 month offs.
Trying to figure few supplements to promote full healing.
Also ordering red light machine from MOS store in 2-3 days time

 

[oldandlively]

Hydrocortisone ?? Should I try apply it..
I have decided to take 6 month offs.
Trying to figure few supplements to promote full healing.
Also ordering red light machine from MOS store in 2-3 days time

No. That doesn't address internal nerve damage.

 

[Vishald0810]

No. That doesn't address internal nerve damage.

Sorry bro for disturbing you again n again.
One more question about shockwave therapy?
Shockwave therapy basically first hurts penis nerves using force, then nerves heals stronger.
But if I use shockwave therapy on my penis..
And when shockwave will hurt my already damaged nerve.. won't it get more damaged

I am visiting Urologist next week
If he offers me shock wave treatment..
Because he ofter promotes shock wave for problems like ED in YouTube.
I don't have any ED problem...but he might offer me shockwave therapy too.

So just researching if shockwave therapy will further damages nerves

 

[oldandlively]

Sorry bro for disturbing you again n again.

No worries. You are searching for answers and making sure you are getting the proper answers before proceeding. I would suggest you get a second, third, and even fourth opinions to ensure all info is correct.

One more question about shockwave therapy?
Shockwave therapy basically first hurts penis nerves using force, then nerves heals stronger.
But if I use shockwave therapy on my penis..
And when shockwave will hurt my already damaged nerve.. won't it get more damaged

No it won't. LIST focused energy does indeed damage the nerves, but trained professional will scan the nerve's condition first, adjust the energy level to match the depth of the nerve, and readjust the energy level loading just enough to tear the nerve segment that didn't heal correctly. This allows the nerve to regrow back accordingly. However, it's critical to scan the nerve first before proceeding.

I am visiting Urologist next week
If he offers me shock wave treatment..
Because he ofter promotes shock wave for problems like ED in YouTube.

ED is not just about erection quality. ED also covers tissues, nerve and blood vessel damages. ED is way too broad.

So just researching if shockwave therapy will further damages nerves

Every procedure has its risk. When your body is cut open, you are open for infections. When your bone is surgically corrected, you can get bone fragmentation that can kill you down the road. When you cut a blood vessel, you can get hemorrhaging. When you cut the nerve, you can get lifetime numbness. There are many that can go wrong on top of what can go right.