Psychology Why do I feel like a Jerk, due to having a big penis elongation wrap.

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I'm feeling like a Jerk for having an over the top big elongation wrap. It looks like my penis is like 7" thick in a flaccid state (from my bulge).

But my penis is not 7" flaccid thick, it's, 5" flaccid thick. I know my penis also looks bigger now, without my enormous Phallosan forte elongation wrap (bigger bulge), due to PE.

But this bulge is absurd. I'm feeling like I'm fake...even when I know my penis will be at 6" EG in the future. I can't shake the feeling of being fake.

Have anyone else problems with these destructive thoughts of being fake...many women are looking. Especially one of them in a specific situation/environment. It would have been so nice to just fuck her...so nice, but I think there will be more problems, and consequences with this. I'm probably overanylazing everything.

I think it would kill my penis enlargement as well, and kill my future goals.

How do I start giving no fucks about this?
Let the women look and they can dream about it, but never get it? I feel women are dealing with me in a completely diffrent way now. Some women are fake smiling, and that kind of weird shit. Or maybe it's my confident energy they are feeling. I feel much more confident now, when I have been getting a bigger and bigger penis...

I can never remove this wrap I feel, since then the women around me, will know that something is up.
It's both a good and a bad thing to have women look, if it all was real there under, I think I would be fine with it. More more then fine.


They will think: Why is it big some days and small some other days (my bulge)? That scenario doesn't feel acceptabel either.

I would imagine this is how women are going to look at me in the future at, 8"x6"?... or if I even want to go to 9"x6"? (maybe/probably).

Maybe it's just best to become comfortable with this, and with the looks from women already now. The staring into my crotch area is insane... yes it's insane, they just loock their eyes at it...and just stare. It's a good feeling but at the same time I feel fake.

Maybe I can use this as, some kind of mind control for myself: I'm visualizing my penis to already be big, and therefore I will reach my goals faster. I know I'm not small but I'm fooling everyone with this absurd wrap. 😂

Just some thoughts I have right now. I'm sacrificing alot right now for PE, but it's worth it all. It really do not feel like I'm sacrificing anything. And I will keep at it, as long as it takes to get to 8"x6" permanent. I'm super tired right now so maybe this is why I want to share this with my brothers.

But I can't shake these thoughts of fooling women around me.
Any suggestions in how to deal with this?
 
Do you think women have the same feelings when they wear a push-up or padded bra? You're 'in-training' so whatever side-effects occur are a product of that...give yourself a bit of love and let the people staring have their fantasy
I have gotten over this now. I feel comfortable with women staring now. I do not even make them aware that I know they are staring. That have to wait. I'm focused on gaining as fast as possible right now...
 
I'm feeling like a Jerk for having an over the top big elongation wrap. It looks like my penis is like 7" thick in a flaccid state (from my bulge).

But my penis is not 7" flaccid thick, it's, 5" flaccid thick. I know my penis also looks bigger now, without my enormous Phallosan forte elongation wrap (bigger bulge), due to PE.

But this bulge is absurd. I'm feeling like I'm fake...even when I know my penis will be at 6" EG in the future. I can't shake the feeling of being fake.

Have anyone else problems with these destructive thoughts of being fake...many women are looking. Especially one of them in a specific situation/environment. It would have been so nice to just fuck her...so nice, but I think there will be more problems, and consequences with this. I'm probably overanylazing everything.

I think it would kill my penis enlargement as well, and kill my future goals.

How do I start giving no fucks about this?
Let the women look and they can dream about it, but never get it? I feel women are dealing with me in a completely diffrent way now. Some women are fake smiling, and that kind of weird shit. Or maybe it's my confident energy they are feeling. I feel much more confident now, when I have been getting a bigger and bigger penis...

I can never remove this wrap I feel, since then the women around me, will know that something is up.
It's both a good and a bad thing to have women look, if it all was real there under, I think I would be fine with it. More more then fine.


They will think: Why is it big some days and small some other days (my bulge)? That scenario doesn't feel acceptabel either.

I would imagine this is how women are going to look at me in the future at, 8"x6"?... or if I even want to go to 9"x6"? (maybe/probably).

Maybe it's just best to become comfortable with this, and with the looks from women already now. The staring into my crotch area is insane... yes it's insane, they just loock their eyes at it...and just stare. It's a good feeling but at the same time I feel fake.

Maybe I can use this as, some kind of mind control for myself: I'm visualizing my penis to already be big, and therefore I will reach my goals faster. I know I'm not small but I'm fooling everyone with this absurd wrap. 😂

Just some thoughts I have right now. I'm sacrificing alot right now for PE, but it's worth it all. It really do not feel like I'm sacrificing anything. And I will keep at it, as long as it takes to get to 8"x6" permanent. I'm super tired right now so maybe this is why I want to share this with my brothers.

But I can't shake these thoughts of fooling women around me.
Any suggestions in how to deal with this?
You are serious? You are running around naked in front of women with your penis wrapped up? They dont know why? No-one has asked you why it is wrapped up?
Now, how much balls do you have to go around naked with your dick covered(not caring about them asking you why it is covered like that) in front od women you actually want to fuck. A ton more than I got!
However you have verified what I have been saying. Women do care how big your dick is. Bigger is better is a real thing, not a fake and all these Women and Men saying that big doesnt matter are lying!
Average is not 6”x 5’ is actually seen as small, because if that is average most dudes are like that, and only a tiny amount are smaller so they are seen as outliers. Since 15% are over 7” AND 2% are over 8” and I dont know how many are larger but it is almost everyone you will see on every video-pro or amateur or on any video (millions) then average appears as small to them.
That is probably because of the millions of videos.
Women watch the videos and I personally dont have the balls to ask them questions because I dont want to hear the answers. I will bet they are comparing us in all kinds of ways. How good can he fuck? Does he do this and that or …?
I dont know how you overcame that but good for you. You must be in a dorm or in a nudist colony
 
This isnt a reply but I apologize for asking you all those personal questions. I am used to self-disclosing stuuf vabout myself because of decades of group therapy. Even though tell us we shouldnt self-disclose outside of the groups I dont have any fear of anyone being able to hurt me with my information because I just dont give a fuck what people think about me and my emotional disorders any more. However, it is not right to do it in an environ ment where others may be affected by it.
It is a bad habit and I hope you can forgive me for it because I will probably do it again. Just dont answer it or dont feel offended because it means nothing and will probably be because I compulsively felt the need to express it because I have not gone to any groups in years.
You did self-disclose a ton in your note above and that is brave.
 
Ok, I would not have commented about anything but I was shocked by your post.

Review for you-
Sili-stretcher 2-
It has an extremely solid cup-The penis head enclosure that works as a vacuum suction. Almost unbreakable. Similar to the phallosan but much simpler to use and much more solid. The vacuum and the solidity already make it the best choice and 200 or $300 cheaper than the Phallosan(that you save me from wasting-Thank you very much!).
The vacuum is the ultimate. No fucking pump. The pumps are a primary hassle for using all the other vaccuum devices. Fuck pumps. All you have to do is twist the end. It hasca marking to show you where to twist it to 15__. 11/2 turns. 15 is the max pressure you should do or you may get blisters.
Now with the end(which itself is worth the price you will get some sleeves that are about 4” long but 2 of them will be so thin you will not be able to use them. Since you are similar to me I would buy 2 more or 1 at a x of the sili-sleeves that are 1” not 7/8 or smaller like in the kit and 6” or 8” long. 6’ will be right. But with 8 “ you can cut off 2” and use that to wrap over your sleeve to double reinforce the end that is grippin your head.
This important to stop rips and holes in the sleeves. I dont do this all the time.
The sleeves cost from 20-30 depending on length. 3 types of sleeves. The duro sleeves you need will already be in the kit. They are the thickest and most solid. At 4” and if you can fit in the 7/8” one you can use that with the end hook to hang weigts from.
will be used for weight hanbing. I believe you get a metal rod and 2 small weights about 3 lbs. in the sili-stretcher kit (every time I write kit-I am talking about everything in the package that comes with the sili-stretcher for $200. Cost when I purchased it.)
Now. I went and purchased a much longer and thicker metal bar(there is a name for this part in weights terminology I forgot. You can figure it out or ask me and I will go back to Amazon and look for it. It cost me $20 on Amazon. I purchased it because I already had 5 lb weights that I could use and they fit snug on the width of the $20 bar I purchased. When I tried to put them on the very small bar you get in the kit, they were so large that the weights slid around when I was hanging them.
If you just buy there weights from Mos, you can get up to 40lbs and you dont need the extra bar. However they are very expensive.
The hook on the end of the main piece is solid. Extremely solid. I have seen nothing like it out of the many devices I have had and have now.
It is great for hanging.
OK-you get 3 of these cups-1 is tiny, probably for micro-penis people and 1 is about the size of the adult entertainment stars you see. The middle one will fit you.
I lost mine and they replaced it for $69-I did not have to buy then whole kit again-Very cool with Mos. sales dept.
You get 1 blue cap. This didnt seem useful to me until I finally realized after about a year of wasted time that not wearing it was causing my blisters.
I always use a cap now whenever I use any vacuum devices.
Including the mitty vac—which is great for girth and as good as the 4 or $500 ones and much better than the ones sold all over the place that are around $60. I will talkn about the mitty-vac vas the bathmate in another post. Both are great but also much difft. There is a secret to know about the bathmate. There is a device sold on the market that looks exactly the same as the bathmate and is called the bathmate but it is not made by bathmate but some other company. You should get your bathmate from MOS only!

I am going to do every piece for you and it seems I am not being excessively wordy and using small paragraphs. The grammar isnt good but it has been 30 years since University and the grammarly app, stops me to many x and I never get anything written and then get to frustrated to finish.Blah, blah…
You also get a strap system to do your stretching. These strap are simple but can be used, for the knee. You velcro(on the strap)them and use the plastic hooks to attach. They are not very strong and they slacken often so you have to re-adjust them often. They can slip. I used a heavy duty strap that has a plastic piece on it to strap over the whole thing. The main strap and the ends of the plastic hook enclosures and that keeps it in place for me. This strap came off of my leather wrist wraps for carpal tunnel. You will figure out something because you are creative.
However they will work fine. You also get an over the neck strap which is kind of like a circular suspenders..
The tubes and cap are the only things that can break and need replacing. They have lasted me anywhere from a month to a year and are about $20 each. I have purchased a load of them of different types and lengths. Some that they used to have have been discontinued. The sili-pro and duro-pro. They were the best so maybe you can talk DLD into bringing them back?
1 more thing about the sleeves, you should wrap the flat end over the head enclosure leaving the thick end out and it will act like a cock ring which will keep your girth as you grow. I have notice as it has gotten longer some of the girth has been taken awary. This helps a tiny bit. I still have to pump after. Funny the pump then takes some length. I am talking mms. I guess you go back and forth until it balances out.

Last thing which is probably what you wanted me to describe and the above was a waste of an hour is the extra strap system you can get for about $75.
Ok, this is the shit. You get a super belt. This thing is bad ass-Thick and solid with heavy duty metal clips all over it. It is like an army ranger tool kit. You could hang a flash light, bowie knife, small ax and tools off it and hit the woods.
You get the same neck strap as in the silistretcher kit.
You get a monster knee strap. This strap is nothing like the strap in the sili kit. This is solid and wraps tight. It will not move at all once in place, with solid metal clips on it.
You also get an ankle strap. This thing is also solid, and it also wraps under your foot so there is no possibility of it moving. You strap it around your ankle and then put the attachment piece over your foot. This is for extreme stretching. The force it cause is way beyond the knee strap or any of the other straps.
It comes with 2 bungee type cords with solid plastic hooks. I is very long and thein the other is medium and thick. The long thin 1 is for the ankle and the medium for all the other stuff. It is to much for me at this time(the ankle strap).

So, when you have this Strap kit. You can attach it to either knee-2 different directions-you can hang it strait down and either use a weight or yank it by hadnt-strait down it obviously cant be used as an ADS. That is 3 directions if you hang or pull in the center.
With the neck strap. You can go straip up wrapping the suspender around your neck or to either side if you wrap the suspender over either shoulder. 6 directions so far or 5 if you dont hang strait down.
The belt has 5-6directions Or angles to stratch. To either side in the front-90 degrees and you can then take it between your legs under your balls and around the back, slightly between your cheeks and hook it up on either side or strait up the middle. It feels a little weird but works. This is where the super solid grip of the sil stretcher head enclosure and its extremel thick hook work as the ultimate.
All right 5 angles on the belt, 3 angles on the neck strap, 2 angle for eack knee-That is 10. Hanging in the middle or yanking on it is 11.
Twisting it by hand in a circle in front of you makes 12-It is much better to do the 360 degree circle stretch with the sili-stretcher on but not attached anywhere. You can get a realy solid grip on it.
To get that 13th the angle. You would have to go strait out in the middle- You can do that if you want buy using those rubber band stretchers that are used for exercising. I learned that in 1 of the videos I saw on this site. You can do many angles if you use 1 of those and your sili stretcher head enclosure. That covers the 13 angles I believe Dld talks about in some of his programs. You can do 10 angles as an ADS stretch for as many hours as you want at whatever tension you want. I have been doing 6 hrs for about 1 week now and have started on my 2nd 6 month period.

I have gained 11/2” flaccid and maybe 1/4 ersect and 1/4” girth using length master and weight hanging switching days on and off 3-4 for 1/2 to hr. Using the Length master at the 13 angles-using extreme force and the hanging at 5 lbs. and 7 1/2 lbs.
I also have done bundled hanging with the sili-head enclosure on ( sili-head enclosure is-the Plastic end piece, a sili-cap-optional for blister-proofing and a sili-sleeve- a 4” x 1” thick purchased off site). I twist it like you do with the lengthmaster for bundled twisting. Then ahang it over the side of each leg for a few minutes. This seems like where I gained the little bit of erect length(I am not sure). I like how it feels..
I would say thats it but there is 1 more thing. I am now using it as a passive device-just like your wrapping at night while I sleep. I just put the whole end enclosure on. Using a Sili sleev 2- The softest sleeve-It doesnt need any tension when I use it as a passive device. I use a very long one 71/2” so I amn stretched out all the way and just let it hang without attaching it to a strap. This might be a problem if everyone is watching you. They will wonder what the fuck is going on. It will be your regular girth.
I dont like the wrapping to much but this works good for me. Oh, in the sili- is the easiestvto get on and off when you have to piss. Do not try and piss thru 1 of those sleeves by leaving it on. A portion of your piss will be stuck in your body and then come out all over the place when you move away from the toilet.
I am to tired to proof read this but I think it is clear. I will check it tommorow.
More reviews will be put out
 
You are serious? You are running around naked in front of women with your penis wrapped up? They dont know why? No-one has asked you why it is wrapped up?
Now, how much balls do you have to go around naked with your dick covered(not caring about them asking you why it is covered like that) in front od women you actually want to fuck. A ton more than I got!
However you have verified what I have been saying. Women do care how big your dick is. Bigger is better is a real thing, not a fake and all these Women and Men saying that big doesnt matter are lying!
Average is not 6”x 5’ is actually seen as small, because if that is average most dudes are like that, and only a tiny amount are smaller so they are seen as outliers. Since 15% are over 7” AND 2% are over 8” and I dont know how many are larger but it is almost everyone you will see on every video-pro or amateur or on any video (millions) then average appears as small to them.
That is probably because of the millions of videos.
Women watch the videos and I personally dont have the balls to ask them questions because I dont want to hear the answers. I will bet they are comparing us in all kinds of ways. How good can he fuck? Does he do this and that or …?
I dont know how you overcame that but good for you. You must be in a dorm or in a nudist colony
This was fun to read 😁
You have missunderstood me. I do not show woman this wrap. It's only MOS and myself that knows about it. I have pants on and they look at the bulge. Your assumption was fun!

Yeah! Woman like big penis that's for sure. Otherwise they would not stare like they where frozen in time.
 
You are serious? You are running around naked in front of women with your penis wrapped up? They dont know why? No-one has asked you why it is wrapped up?
Now, how much balls do you have to go around naked with your dick covered(not caring about them asking you why it is covered like that) in front od women
I will probably do this later, I would not care.
 
Bro I love wearing my ace wrap in public.. and I will admit mines is MUCH more than a bulge.. it’s an amplified print!! I purposely wear grey sweats when I go to the gym whereas I’m beginning to become addicted to the looks I get from women lol.. it helps bring a certain confidence that I don’t think we should shy away from! A bulge is not faking.. but in my case I am creating an “illusion”, and chicks dig it and without it I’ll have to wear some sort of ads(still waiting on silistretcher) but bc I chose to wrap bc it’s much more comfortable for me rn, why hide it? I have been picking up chicks left and right and I literally (as I type this) just left from a brunch date with this chick I met at the gym while my print was ravishing thru my grey sweats lol.. did she notice? Im sure she did! Come to find out we have so much in common, but if I would have listened to my insecurities I would have never approached her! So my point is maybe u should try capitalizing on the attention you are getting.. if nothing else u will be getting out of your comfort zone and having extended convo with beautiful women whom u maybe would not have spoken to before. Nothing to lose. Everything to gain... there is always an opportunity to work on something.. in my case Im not rushing into sex but with the little gains I’ve made I’ve also built more confidence.. so im not shying away from it either(I have before). Imagine being 7.5 plus and ace wrapping!? Can u imaging the bulge! Instant attention to my crotch thanks ! Lol the bad part is I plan on ace wrapping until my flaccid hang (or lack ther of) is no longer on my mind. This is a big reason why I ace wrap so diligently ! Anyway this is what we are here for! Keep grinding, keep gaining, but DO NOT avoid women, instead entertain it but maintain in control u know? Hope this helps!
#roadto9
 
Bro I love wearing my ace wrap in public.. and I will admit mines is MUCH more than a bulge.. it’s an amplified print!! I purposely wear grey sweats when I go to the gym whereas I’m beginning to become addicted to the looks I get from women LOL.. it helps bring a certain confidence that I don’t think we should shy away from! A bulge is not faking.. but in my case I am creating an “illusion”, and chicks dig it and without it I’ll have to wear some sort of ads(still waiting on silistretcher) but bc I chose to wrap bc it’s much more comfortable for me rn, why hide it? I have been picking up chicks left and right and I literally (as I type this) just left from a brunch date with this chick I met at the gym while my print was ravishing thru my grey sweats LOL.. did she notice? Im sure she did! Come to find out we have so much in common, but if I would have listened to my insecurities I would have never approached her! So my point is maybe u should try capitalizing on the attention you are getting.. if nothing else u will be getting out of your comfort zone and having extended convo with beautiful women whom u maybe would not have spoken to before. Nothing to lose. Everything to gain... there is always an opportunity to work on something.. in my case Im not rushing into sex but with the little gains I’ve made I’ve also built more confidence.. so im not shying away from it either(I have before). Imagine being 7.5 plus and ace wrapping!? Can u imaging the bulge! Instant attention to my crotch thanks ! Lol the bad part is I plan on ace wrapping until my flaccid hang (or lack ther of) is no longer on my mind. This is a big reason why I ace wrap so diligently ! Anyway this is what we are here for! Keep grinding, keep gaining, but DO NOT avoid women, instead entertain it but maintain in control u know? Hope this helps!
#roadto9

Thanks for sharing. I think it's interesting to hear what other brothers are experiencing regarding this. I also like it when people write long and "rabbit hole" deep texts about any topic. I will be forced to expand my mind.

Your situation seems somewhat similar to mine...but I had some bad experiences with women maybe that's holding me back now (not all bad but some).

It's nice when women look at the bulge...you see what they are thinking about: "There's a 7" thick cock there under...and I want to fuck him." I have had woman just stare at it...but because it's an "illusion" I have not been making them aware that I know they are staring. I even have the Phallosan forte as an elongation wrap sometimes, that's a over the top big wrap. 😏

It goes half down to my knee, and it looks really thick there under.



I think I will be more comfortable when my penis is for sure big (there is no questions about it). I'm aware about that this is a insecurity from me, and that's induced by the adult entertainment industry. But I think I will not be comfortable until I'm for sure big.

One time we sat at a table (in class) and there where some lecturer speaking. One woman just looked at the bulge (she sat maybe ~50 inches from me) with a longing look on her face.

Questions to you @Seemo9:
Do you work-out at the gym with an elongation wrap? It would not work for me, It would fall off. Can you share how your wrap looks like, and what type of bandages and technique you are using to make it stay on. Picures?

Maybe I should follow your advice and talk to some women. But I had never had any problems with attracting them or talking to them...I have just not always entertained the looks they are giving me...or what I want to do with them. It's like I disregard my own sexual desire right now with logic and discipline, since I have already determine, this will hinder me from accomplish my goals in life. I can't waste 3 more years with another woman and not get closer to my life goals that's out of the question.

But it's strange I get nervous sometimes, being around beautiful women.

I'm extremely focused on what I'm doing...for example at the gym. Pulled 250 kilogram (~551 lb) in deadlift last year. That would not have happened, if I talked to every woman that looked at me. I was hyperfocused on this goal and I got it. Reducing my weight, for health reasons now. Not good to have to much fat in your body and around your organs. To much muscle mass is not fun either since you gets so clumsy, heavy and big. My knee pain is gone now.

Every time I'm at the gym, some fine fat ass woman with yoga pants looks at me, and wants to talk.
She looks real nice and you see the 🐈 through the pants.

But maybe I should just do it and get to know them. What I do know, is that this interaction with this woman could change my life for the better or worst. But maybe you can get with a woman without it taking up so much time. I need to be a free spirit right now, to work on my life goals as well.

I also feel like this:
I don't feel like I'm at that state in my life where it's a good idea for me to chase women around. I don't want babies right now...or any relationship with a new woman (I have close friends that are women), that would kill my goals and my PE for sure. 1 hour per day are a lot of time, do I prioritize time with a woman, or my goals in PE and work? When I reach my PE goals "fast", I will be at a completely diffrent stage in my life (in 6 months, to between 1 and 1,5 years from now)...
Then: I have for sure a big penis now, and it doesn't matter if I take of my wrap. It will still be big. Just insecurities I know.

I need to work on myself in the limited time I have, between work/school, PE and taking care of my body, and developing my own skills, there is not much time left... I have big goals in life. And I have got this opportunity to make my penis big, I can't let anyone get in the way of this goal. If I let this goal go...I would forever regret it.

This post was all over the place...but it all connects to the title of the thread:
> Why do I feel like a Jerk, due to having a big penis elongation wrap, in some ways.
 
Ok so I’m working rn but when I get home I will upload a pic of the wrap, I’m currently banging some extender hours (as I type this and yes I fixed my cheap noose one) as my silistretcher is scheduled to come today! Hope it has great traction🤣.. anyway I completely understand that women CAN easily take us off of our path but that’s only if you let them!
1. U don’t know if it will be anything more than just convo, I mean they’re staring anyway🤷🏿‍♂️
2. You are getting out of your comfort zone and that’s the MOST important thing here! THIs is the opportunity to “improve” a part of yourself u know.. I just don’t want u to allow your past experiences (bad ones) to keep u away from healthy interactions with women while u wait (pe is a journey) for “fast”, results..
As far as the gym, yes I go everyday and I wrap anyway so why not wrap in the gym? If I can’t wear an ads then I’m wrapped! There is literally NO time that I’m not doing some form of P.E. (Except when sleep)
I’m on the same path as you though brother! It’s all about my goals.. at the same time I still want to socialize with girls and pick up new ones if the energy is there.. I’m not “chasing” them, I’m just capitalizing on the attention.. anything less would leave me with feelings of inadequacy bc I wouldn’t be able to justify if I was just “afraid”, or if I truly didn’t want to talk to them.. most of the time it’s fear based, and I don’t like that! So this is how I work on me, staying social, speaking to people more, just being overall in a happier state bc if not then I’m hyper focusing/ obsessing over P.E. And for most of my P.E. Journey I have been obsessed.. it can help but me personally, I needed to find balance u know? Sticking to a routine and practicing patience is helping me rn..
 
Ok so I’m working rn but when I get home I will upload a pic of the wrap, I’m currently banging some extender hours (as I type this and yes I fixed my cheap noose one) as my silistretcher is scheduled to come today! Hope it has great traction🤣.. anyway I completely understand that women CAN easily take us off of our path but that’s only if you let them!
1. U don’t know if it will be anything more than just convo, I mean they’re staring anyway🤷🏿‍♂️
2. You are getting out of your comfort zone and that’s the MOST important thing here! THIs is the opportunity to “improve” a part of yourself u know.. I just don’t want u to allow your past experiences (bad ones) to keep u away from healthy interactions with women while u wait (pe is a journey) for “fast”, results..
As far as the gym, yes I go everyday and I wrap anyway so why not wrap in the gym? If I can’t wear an ads then I’m wrapped! There is literally NO time that I’m not doing some form of P.E. (Except when sleep)
I’m on the same path as you though brother! It’s all about my goals.. at the same time I still want to socialize with girls and pick up new ones if the energy is there.. I’m not “chasing” them, I’m just capitalizing on the attention.. anything less would leave me with feelings of inadequacy bc I wouldn’t be able to justify if I was just “afraid”, or if I truly didn’t want to talk to them.. most of the time it’s fear based, and I don’t like that! So this is how I work on me, staying social, speaking to people more, just being overall in a happier state bc if not then I’m hyper focusing/ obsessing over P.E. And for most of my P.E. Journey I have been obsessed.. it can help but me personally, I needed to find balance u know? Sticking to a routine and practicing patience is helping me rn..
Awesomeness.
Evolution is a key part in a man's life.
I should not let my past experiences get in the way of my future. Thanks.

How much have you gained brother?
 
@Seemo9 I still don't understand how you can have a penis elongation wrap stay on while you are at the gym.
If I would use, Concept2 ® ROWER it would dislodge itself. If I would do deadlifts it would not stay on.

What type of magic are you using?
 
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Sorry I’ve been out of the house all day so I couldn’t upload pics but I will this weekend! I pretty much wrap it tight enough so that the blood swells in my glands. Start from the bottom of the shaft and work your way up but not too tight underneath the glands or it will cut off circulation.. it should be tightest at base.. this takes time and repetition to get the “feel”.. when I first started I wasn’t able to leave the wrap on for an hour w/o excruciating pain..then my penis adapted as usual.. I now wrap then add a silicone sleeve over the wrap for extra compression and squeeze.. after about 6 hours I have to come out.. and of course to pee.. and I didn’t make any gains with LM yet.. all my gains are from a cheap noose extender.. tedious torture I know lol.. but extenders work🤷🏿‍♂️.. anyway I’m using the wrap that came with the LM..
 
Sorry I’ve been out of the house all day so I couldn’t upload pics but I will this weekend! I pretty much wrap it tight enough so that the blood swells in my glands. Start from the bottom of the shaft and work your way up but not too tight underneath the glands or it will cut off circulation.. it should be tightest at base.. this takes time and repetition to get the “feel”.. when I first started I wasn’t able to leave the wrap on for an hour w/o excruciating pain..then my penis adapted as usual.. I now wrap then add a silicone sleeve over the wrap for extra compression and squeeze.. after about 6 hours I have to come out.. and of course to pee.. and I didn’t make any gains with LM yet.. all my gains are from a cheap noose extender.. tedious torture I know LOL.. but extenders work🤷🏿‍♂️.. anyway I’m using the wrap that came with the LM..
Kinda similar as I'm wrapping. But I pull one winding behind the balls to prevent slippage. But I do not think I wind as hard, as you are describing it.

With the LM, try to progress so you can do downward bundled stretches (20 min x 3 times/day). But be careful you want progression from the beginner routine.

Here is my wrapping technique:
ball-sack penis elongation support wrap
 
I usually only can get 1 -2 x 20 min sessions a day! It sucks bc I feel like I should be doing more but honestly it gets painful.. the LM has so much force! I only do downward bundles btw.. oh and my silistretcher just came in., I ordered the bell a lil too big but I’m using a glans protector so I’ll adjust! I’m still getting used to it but the suction is impeccable! Now I just have to “put it all together”. Anyway I find that if I wrap around my sack it helps keep an erection.. I actually pull all my scrotum down and out of the ace wrap, therefore my penis will drop down as opposed to off to the side.. I find this to be pivotal for me. The further away from the base the better(about an inch) bc when I don’t my balls run up into my pelvic area.. that’s not too bad when I have privacy but I’m speaking specifically for public use, preferably the gym. Hope this helps
 
I usually only can get 1 -2 x 20 min sessions a day! It sucks bc I feel like I should be doing more but honestly it gets painful.. the LM has so much force! I only do downward bundles btw.. oh and my silistretcher just came in., I ordered the bell a lil too big but I’m using a glans protector so I’ll adjust! I’m still getting used to it but the suction is impeccable! Now I just have to “put it all together”. Anyway I find that if I wrap around my sack it helps keep an erection.. I actually pull all my scrotum down and out of the ace wrap, therefore my penis will drop down as opposed to off to the side.. I find this to be pivotal for me. The further away from the base the better(about an inch) bc when I don’t my balls run up into my pelvic area.. that’s not too bad when I have privacy but I’m speaking specifically for public use, preferably the gym. Hope this helps

I followed your directions about the wrap, since you are doing a similar wrapping I feel more safe with it. Previously I thought my wrap was to tight but now I realize its perfect for me.

Mostly I can do 3 sessions per day, but sometimes my penis is sore (the skin), so I can only do 2 sessions. I'm between 2-3 sessions per day and 6 days a week, and try to keep the sessions at 3. I believe this will create results. As my penis gets longer (my flaccid) It have been easier and easier to clamp down in the lengthmaster.

I can imagine I can do 3 sessions per day without any problems in the future, when my flaccid is long enough.

I'm considering the SiliStretcher for this reason alone. But I probably need to buy many sleeves immediately so they last at least one year.

Keep me updated on your evaluation of the SiliStretcher. I want to know how it's working out for you.
 
That’s great! Just remember that the more your penis adapts the tighter you will have to wrap; it’s all about “feel”. Each person is different but the more u do it u will find your own “hacks”, lol. I’m 90% sure the last addiction to my P.E. Collection will be the mityvac. Just so I can tie everything together.. it sucks though because sometimes I feel torn between chasing length(need) and chasing girth(want). I love how girth work gives u more flaccid hang and fullness.. this is why I jelq everyday now( only 15 min) and this helps my penis look and feel more prominent. But bro I have been back on my extender routine the past two days, bc I didn’t have my LM with me while away from home, and damn do I miss it.. I started thinking of why I ever stopped (2 months ago) with my extended routine? I can’t even find a good excuse.. I also have a strange hypothesis that noose/strap extenders are more efficient than vacuums, but that’s another story lol.
oh and did I mention that while wrapping you should feel the blood swell to glans gradually? Bc it does..this is what I was trying to tell you a lil while ago when u mentioned turtling in cold weather. Bro with this method your dick will be on 🔥 lol and when u take the wrap off it should be extremely pliable, which I think is a perfecttime to go write intoLM or stretching routine! Or girth because the blood would have been trapped for such a long period of time.. I even started getting edema bro no lie and as I’m typing this I’m beginning to feel like the wrap-master😂
Ok that’s enough
 
I have both a noose which is pretty much the SG, and I also have a vacuum (cheap as well). Cheap devices work, they just tend to break sooner, but the basic laws of traction still apply. Moreover, I got tired of wearing my noose bc I didn’t have the privacy to take off/put on, as much as a noose requires, so I switched to the vacuum for about a month. What I noticed was while in the vacuum extender my entire penis suffered from slight edema, while the stretch never felt as strong bc that’s just too much pressure on my glans.. basically I can have a strap or silicone wrapped just below my glans and get more traction than if my entire head is in a bell. Could this be bc your penis head takes most of the tension? If that’s the case then I should have used the thickest glans protector I could find.. it’s similar to vac hanging vs compression, eventually your glans can’t take anymore, meanwhile some guy with a compression hanger is now hanging 30 pounds off of his dick! Lol.
this is just a hypothesis- distinguished from “theory”, u know? u can still gain with vacuum based extenders (many people have) they are just not for me..
oh and I just left the gym, wrapped the entire time! I hope things go well for u with the all-day wrap.. I hate my flaccid size and this is where jelq’s come in to my routine!
 
I have both a noose which is pretty much the SG, and I also have a vacuum (cheap as well). Cheap devices work, they just tend to break sooner, but the basic laws of traction still apply. Moreover, I got tired of wearing my noose bc I didn’t have the privacy to take off/put on, as much as a noose requires, so I switched to the vacuum for about a month. What I noticed was while in the vacuum extender my entire penis suffered from slight edema, while the stretch never felt as strong bc that’s just too much pressure on my glans.. basically I can have a strap or silicone wrapped just below my glans and get more traction than if my entire head is in a bell. Could this be bc your penis head takes most of the tension? If that’s the case then I should have used the thickest glans protector I could find.. it’s similar to vac hanging vs compression, eventually your glans can’t take anymore, meanwhile some guy with a compression hanger is now hanging 30 pounds off of his dick! Lol.
this is just a hypothesis- distinguished from “theory”, u know? u can still gain with vacuum based extenders (many people have) they are just not for me..
oh and I just left the gym, wrapped the entire time! I hope things go well for u with the all-day wrap.. I hate my flaccid size and this is where jelq’s come in to my routine!
Thank you brother for this information. It was really helpful, I'm really appreciating this. I may have reconsider my view on extenders, vaccum extenders vs. nose extenders. I have never used an extender (only the garbage one: Phallosan forte), and I'm thinking about getting one, but after reading your post I will probably get a nose type extender. Doesn't matter that the SiliStretcher are the best one on the market, I don't think a vacuum extender is for me.

I need to get my flaccid hang longer. Both to make it easier to attach the lengthmaster for a more secured and more intense pull.
But also so I will look big in a flaccid state as well. Imagine being the biggest in flaccid state and erect state. I want to look big immediately when my pants gets removed. The woman should gape of surprise. That's my goal. The penis should also hang low/long in my pants, so it looks really big there under.

Do you think a nose type extender will get me a longer flaccid penis, faster then just using the lengthmaster and an penis elongation wrap? The lower hang of the penis you can get with the ball stretching routine.

I'm worried that a vacuum based extender will also increase the skin on my penis as well (more foreskin...I don't need more of that)....and I seems to be sensitive for the vaccum based extenders (maybe)...I see your argument about them be extremely valid. I believe you when you say you experienced them (vaccum extenders) not giving you enough pulling force, and are giving you edema. I experienced that with the Phallosan forte as well...even when you can't compare it to the SiliStretcher.

It would be interesting what you experience with the SiliStretcher regarding all this. Can you have a strong pull without getting edema/water retention?
 
That’s great bro! But I need to speak to someone in regards to my silistretcher. @DLD who can I contact for a replacement piston? Not even 24 hours after receiving my SS2 and it’s broke. I can no longer get any suction. The piston turns but does not go up or down. I’m extremely disappointed. Is there anyway I can get a replacement? Maybe I should start a thread about my issue bc I don’t want to hijack this one..
 
That’s great bro! But I need to speak to someone in regards to my silistretcher. @DLD who can I contact for a replacement piston? Not even 24 hours after receiving my SS2 and it’s broke. I can no longer get any suction. The piston turns but does not go up or down. I’m extremely disappointed. Is there anyway I can get a replacement? Maybe I should start a thread about my issue bc I don’t want to hijack this one..
He will probably see this when he log in later.
 
Thanks bro! But if u have time and privacy (luxury I know) then why not do an extender routine mixed with your LM? What I learned about nooses are that they’re tedious work.. but they work.. I was only extending 4 hours a day and yes it was newbie gains but I did NO other form of P.E. Just something to think about.. anyway Im back on the LM after a week off but I still wanna get about 4 hours in my extender idk y maybe I’m obsessed! They have a special place in my heart.. but either way if I don’t decide to do that I will continue with the LM followed by an ads (hopefully SS2) for 6 months and go from there
 
But if u have time and privacy (luxury I know) then why not do an extender routine mixed with your LM?
That's what I'm thinking. An nose extender or a vacuum extender? What do you think? I have no issue with privacy and I'm studying from home right now, so I can extend while I'm studying.
 
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