Tired of striking out...time to work

[Coolcash88]

Hi everybody I'm a 31 yr old black male. I always kinda felt insecure about my size bc being black you're expected to be big in this society i guess. My measurements on a good day is 7.2×4.5. It wasn't until a situation that occurred with a co worker over a yr ago that damaged my pride. I was seeing this girl and i liked her but, as soon as we got intimate she pushed me away after. I knew why and i wasn't dumb. Come to find out later she started fucking our supervisor who was married with kids LOL. She didn't give af. Fast forward there's this new women I'm talking to, so I've started my journey for what feels like the 100th time. I'm currently using the bathmate xtreme 40 and I'm going to follow the 5x3 routine. Also I'm taking some vigrxplus and some other supplements for more bloodflow. I started pumping yesterday but, I'm making today my first official day. Wish me luck i will be keeping weekly tabs on my progress.

 

[F26]

Welcome @Coolcash88!
7.2" and she's pushing you away? :O Definitely couldn't have been because of your length.
I see you already got the Bathmate for girth gains, just make sure you're not going to intense in the beginning, because the Bathmate can easily cause red dots and discoloration as lots of people said if you're going directly all-in with it instead of slowing increasing the intensity.

As I can say so far, don't decide to do PE because of the girls, do it because you want to improve yourself and see it as benefit
If you're always going on/off/on/off because of current girls, it could make you depressed later if you find your dream woman in a few years who could take 8x6 and would love it, but you stopped PE because your gf before was happy with it and didn't care, even thought when you aren't happy with it and have such thoughts, which can also kill your self-confidence which could kill your attraction for the other gender.
Also try to make it a habit, don't exhaust yourself, stick to the basics and I'd recommend you the Newbie Routine combined with your Bathmate workout --> https://mattersofsize.com/threads/dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.1717/

For supplements, don't buy any expensive PE pills who want to rip you off and are just filled with basic natural poweders!
Just stick to things like Arginin, Maca, Ginko biloba.

 

[Coolcash88]

Welcome @Coolcash88!
7.2" and she's pushing you away? :O Definitely couldn't have been because of your length.
I see you already got the Bathmate for girth gains, just make sure you're not going to intense in the beginning, because the Bathmate can easily cause red dots and discoloration as lots of people said if you're going directly all-in with it instead of slowing increasing the intensity.

As I can say so far, don't decide to do PE because of the girls, do it because you want to improve yourself and see it as benefit
If you're always going on/off/on/off because of current girls, it could make you depressed later if you find your dream woman in a few years who could take 8x6 and would love it, but you stopped PE because your gf before was happy with it and didn't care, even thought when you aren't happy with it and have such thoughts, which can also kill your self-confidence which could kill your attraction for the other gender.
Also try to make it a habit, don't exhaust yourself, stick to the basics and I'd recommend you the Newbie Routine combine with your Bathmate workout.

For supplements, don't buy any expensive PE pills who want to rip you off and are just filled with basic natural poweders!
Just stick to things like Arginin, Maca, Ginko biloba.

Thanks for the advice i do appreciate it. I'd being lying if i said part of the reason wasn't for women but another part is just for me. I've pumped on in off over the years with penomet but never stuck with it. It's no more excuses for me. I woke up this morning and still had some temp gains from yesterday so that's pretty good. One of my main inspirations was Kingsnake and all of his wild stories. I can't wait to get started on this journey and thanks for the advice i appreciate the support.

 

[F26]

We all know that from life man, most people are on/off with the most habits, that's why we try to keep us motivated in the forum if people have some bad days, it's human brother.
As said, it's definitely also a cool benefit that the girls will love a bigger dick, but you need to program yourself that you're doing it for yourself, in that way it's much easier to build a habit

 

[TuffDong]

You already live up to the stereotype with a well-above average starting length. That doesn't matter though. You will find what works for you. Start will a conditioning (newbie) routine...

Kingsnake does have good size, however he did not work for it. Look to the gainers for inspiration and motivation. ..

Blessings. ...

 

[huge-girth]

Do not fall off this time.

 

[Coolcash88]

Do not fall off this time.

Oh i won't lol

 

[Avglen61]

According to me, you already have an above average dick. Might need to work on girth.
Please tell what size do you want for your dick. This would help us to help you further in your progress.

With that said
Happy PE

 

[Avglen61]

Come to find out later she started fucking our supervisor who was married with kids LOL.

Tell her wife.
Now that would be something to see.(cwl)

 

[Coolcash88]

According to me, you already have an above average dick. Might need to work on girth.
Please tell what size do you want for your dick. This would help us to help you further in your progress.

With that said
Happy PE

I want to gain 2 inches in length and 2 inches in girth. So basically from 7.2x4.5 to 9.2x6.5. A 7.2 length isn't much ifor you girth is skinny af lol So hopefully with the routine ssj and hardcore stretches i can see some pretty goods by this time next year.

 

[TuffDong]

Do yourself a favor.... DON'T SET A GOAL. Do this in the same fashion as your daily SSS (shit,shower,shave).....

 

[Coolcash88]

Tell her wife.
Now that would be something to see.(cwl)

Ikr lol honestly she did me a favor

 

[DLD]

Oh i won't LOL

We will make sure that never happens ?

 

[huge-girth]

Do yourself a favor.... DON'T SET A GOAL. Do this in the same fashion as your daily SSS (shit,shower,shave).....

For most of us, the goal is the fuel we need. What's your reason for saying he shouldn't set a goal?

 

[F26]

For most of us, the goal is the fuel we need. What's your reason for saying he shouldn't set a goal?

I think he meant more that @Coolcash88 shouldn't measure everyday and more see it as daily habit then the gains will come anyways.
Because lots of newbies, as far from what I read here have wrong intentions or goals. They measure after a few weeks and then ask why they haven't gained 0.5"/1" and maybe become depressed.

I'm the opinion with both of you, don't measure so often and see it as daily habit, but also have a goal or at least do something like that which you can check every now and then: https://mattersofsize.com/threads/view-your-penis-size-goal-with-paper.41064
Instead of one goal with the thread above, I've done something like a template. My current size + 7", 8", 9" and drawed it on the paper. So I can actually see the size gain from time to time and how far I'm away

 

[huge-girth]

I think he meant more that @Coolcash88 shouldn't measure everyday and more see it as daily habit then the gains will come anyways.
Because lots of newbies, as far from what I read here have wrong intentions or goals. They measure after a few weeks and then ask why they haven't gained 0.5"/1" and maybe become depressed.

I'm the opinion with both of you, don't measure so often and see it as daily habit, but also have a goal or at least do something like that which you can check every now and then: https://mattersofsize.com/threads/view-your-penis-size-goal-with-paper.41064
Instead of one goal with the thread above, I've done something like a template. My current size + 7", 8", 9" and drawed it on the paper. So I can actually see the size gain from time to time and how far I'm away

I got your point. Personally, I have come to realize that setting a particular time frame to make gains can weaken me a bit when the time is reached and the desired gains didn't come as much as expected. I have decided to stop setting time frames to get to my goal. I will just keep training until I get there.

 

[F26]

I think that's exactly what @TuffDong meant and the correct way Not focusing on numbers too much, also maybe not focusing on a specific size too much. Lots of people writing about dream goal sizes of 10", 11" or more. I wouldn't focus on that, either having an attitude that the goal is to grow from measurement to measurement every few months because that all sums up!
If people set the bars to high, what newbies often do, their mind could trick them and make them stop very fast if they are not gaining very fast, I think that's why some people recommend not setting goals. But as we are all individual, some like to set goals in numbers, some just have the goal to keep going and increasing every measurement or every few months and some maybe even stay away from measuring and just compare it with items LOL

 

[huge-girth]

Most of the top gainers set goals. Setting a particular time frame to get to that goal is where I have a problem. I have a goal of 9X7 and I will surely get there but setting a particular time to get there is wrong.

Just train daily like you are brushing your teeth daily. That's the plan.

 

[TuffDong]

Raising the bar?? Sounds like a job for James Cameron. ...

 

[Avglen61]

Do set a goal....
Just don't set a time frame.....
Do not measure your gains. Feel those gains

 

[huge-girth]

Do set a goal....
Just don't set a time frame.....
Do not measure your gains. Feel those gains

Measuring once in 6 months is what I normally do.

 

[DLD]

Measuring once in 6 months is what I normally do.

Every 3 to 6 months. The only time you should measure sooner is checking your post girth size to make sure that you’re seeing expansion and it’s good to measure once every couple weeks your flaccid, bone stretched length to be sure that your length routine is profitable. But official measurements should be done every 3 to 6 months.

 

[Coolcash88]

Hey guys, so it's been about to weeks now and i haven't measured yet. I'd figure i would give it a month before my first measurement. I've actually improved my eq alot in this short time. I'm sticking with the beginner routine with the hydromax. I hang so low and im much thicker after my sessions. The ssj really help and I'm trying to build up slowly to the hardcore stretches as well. I'm taking vigrxplus and it helps me stay strong while pumping. I'm also adding whey protein to my diet, so i can get the amino acids i heard that could help. So doing that thus far with edging every other day, i can't wait until my fist measurement. I realize it's a marathon and not a race. Can't wait to up date guys✌

 

[huge-girth]

Hey guys, so it's been about to weeks now and i haven't measured yet. I'd figure i would give it a month before my first measurement. I've actually improved my eq alot in this short time. I'm sticking with the beginner routine with the hydromax. I hang so low and im much thicker after my sessions. The ssj really help and I'm trying to build up slowly to the hardcore stretches as well. I'm taking vigrxplus and it helps me stay strong while pumping. I'm also adding whey protein to my diet, so i can get the amino acids i heard that could help. So doing that thus far with edging every other day, i can't wait until my fist measurement. I realize it's a marathon and not a race. Can't wait to up date guys✌

Why measure within one month? Wait until 3 months before measuring.

 

[TuffDong]

IMO, your eyes can see far better than incrimental painted lines. Don't rush to measure, as it can demotivate.

 

[huge-girth]

IMO, your eyes can see far better than incrimental painted lines. Don't rush to measure, as it can demotivate.

I hope he takes this advice.

 

[Coolcash88]

I hope he takes this advice.

I'll take the advice but i don't think I'll lose confidence if i don't see any gains right away. I don't expect that much in a month.

 

[Getbiglonger7]

Mmmm numbers rulers, measuring tape they don't lie,human pussy either....what else ??

 

[TuffDong]

Midgets... excuse me, I mean little people.

 

[DLD]

Obsessive measuring will actually reduce your size as your brain is very powerful. There is no way that you can go day to day and see changes it’s like watching the paint dry on the wall. Official measurements should be done once every 90 days. The only exception to this is measuring the BPFSL To make sure that your routine is working for length. And after every girth session you should measure what your temporary expansion is so you know if that routine is working. But aside from these two very loose measurements official measurement should only be done once every three months.

 

[A-Spot Spammer]

Obsessive measuring will actually reduce your size as your brain is very powerful. There is no way that you can go day to day and see changes it’s like watching the paint dry on the wall. Official measurements should be done once every 90 days. The only exception to this is measuring the BPFSL To make sure that your routine is working for length. And after every girth session you should measure what your temporary expansion is so you know if that routine is working. But aside from these two very loose measurements official measurement should only be done once every three months.

I agree with you...not in a ‘mind over matter’ way, but in a deflation of confidence in the program and ones own ability to effect change and to therefore motivate oneself to commit fully. I also agree with Tuffdong...PE should be incorporated into an existing routine, it should then become part of ones life, if one believes it to important. Just like personal hygiene or visiting the gym. If we think of it as normal (which is a huge hurdle), enjoy the process itself, then any gain (and there will be gains!) will be a bonus. Someone also advocated small goals, if indeed goals are needed (most people do like to see progress if they see the road as difficult or if it impinges on what they perceive to be the ‘normal/important/necessary/enjoyable’ parts of their lives - and I can understand that it is a huge commitment of time, something that is very precious especially as we get older and have families or careers or businesses etc) and these are a good idea if the mindset/paradigm cannot be changed to incorporate PE into the ‘normal/important/necessary/enjoyable’ parts of their lives.

Going back to this being enjoyable and important, I think it was either Filmfreak or LevelUp (LevelUp I think but both threads are great.) that said that PE should incorporate mindfulness or be done with mindfulness and I couldn’t agree more. Mindfulness should be adopted in all parts of life. I think PE can be both an important, integral part of life and an escape from it when one is needed (like a hobby or other sources of ‘flow’ - those things that provide a balance of difficulty, achievement and satisfaction, e.g. religion, an engrossing hobby, artistic pursuits or study.). I aim to make it both but first I need to accept it as normal...even if others around me don’t!

I’d go further than what Tuffdong said about it being part of the routine, as the items mentioned as routine were maybe just socially or physically necessary and are not really good for the soul such as a good hobby or interest, such as PE could be - although he clearly already believes that it is much more than this and advocates it with his practices and progress log and was seemingly suggesting it might work as motivation for someone else if just added to every day ablutions.

Everyone is different and what might work for one might not work for another. Whilst I’d like to gain, the destination isn’t too important to me at that point. It’s the journey that counts and I’m enjoying it. After all, time is precious.

Sorry for the long post and thank you for using your precious time to read it, if you did! ?

 

[DLD]

I agree with you...not in a ‘mind over matter’ way, but in a deflation of confidence in the program and ones own ability to effect change and to therefore motivate oneself to commit fully. I also agree with Tuffdong...PE should be incorporated into an existing routine, it should then become part of ones life, if one believes it to important. Just like personal hygiene or visiting the gym. If we think of it as normal (which is a huge hurdle), enjoy the process itself, then any gain (and there will be gains!) will be a bonus. Someone also advocated small goals, if indeed goals are needed (most people do like to see progress if they see the road as difficult or if it impinges on what they perceive to be the ‘normal/important/necessary/enjoyable’ parts of their lives - and I can understand that it is a huge commitment of time, something that is very precious especially as we get older and have families or careers or businesses etc) and these are a good idea if the mindset/paradigm cannot be changed to incorporate PE into the ‘normal/important/necessary/enjoyable’ parts of their lives.

Going back to this being enjoyable and important, I think it was either Filmfreak or LevelUp (LevelUp I think but both threads are great.) that said that PE should incorporate mindfulness or be done with mindfulness and I couldn’t agree more. Mindfulness should be adopted in all parts of life. I think PE can be both an important, integral part of life and an escape from it when one is needed (like a hobby or other sources of ‘flow’ - those things that provide a balance of difficulty, achievement and satisfaction, e.g. religion, an engrossing hobby, artistic pursuits or study.). I aim to make it both but first I need to accept it as normal...even if others around me don’t!

I’d go further than what Tuffdong said about it being part of the routine, as the items mentioned as routine were maybe just socially or physically necessary and are not really good for the soul such as a good hobby or interest, such as PE could be - although he clearly already believes that it is much more than this and advocates it with his practices and progress log and was seemingly suggesting it might work as motivation for someone else if just added to every day ablutions.

Everyone is different and what might work for one might not work for another. Whilst I’d like to gain, the destination isn’t too important to me at that point. It’s the journey that counts and I’m enjoying it. After all, time is precious.

Sorry for the long post and thank you for using your precious time to read it, if you did! ?

This is knowledge you can’t get a college so I don’t mind the long post. We live in a world today where everything is 1,000,000 miles an hour, everybody wants everything instantly! Memes have become more important than writing an actual article. People don’t want to read they want to just glance at a MEME and think they know it all. I see a headline and they run with it without reading the story. It’s the same way here and all over the Internet. But there are some old-timers like myself who actually enjoy reading.

 

[Getbiglonger7]

This is knowledge you can’t get a college so I don’t mind the long post. We live in a world today where everything is 1,000,000 miles an hour, everybody wants everything instantly! Memes have become more important than writing an actual article. People don’t want to read they want to just glance at a MEME and think they know it all. I see a headline and they run with it without reading the story. It’s the same way here and all over the Internet. But there are some old-timers like myself who actually enjoy reading.

Memes n gifs !? Lol

 

[DLD]

Memes n gifs !? Lol

I’m gonna write an article about this in the next couple weeks. It won’t be based on PE but it will give a awesome outlook on how speech has changed over the years and where we are going into the future.

 

[Getbiglonger7]

I’m gonna write an article about this in the next couple weeks. It won’t be based on PE but it will give a awesome outlook on how speech has changed over the years and where we are going into the future.

Well memes,gifs and all that imagery is becoming a quite powerful mean for cyberexpression people using those smilies,and so many other cartoonish little images that can be used instead of words n replace words in so many ways, could this be the beginning of a new pseudo language...hope not what do you think about this?

 

[Dothraki-Kok]

Hi everybody I'm a 31 yr old black male. I always kinda felt insecure about my size bc being black you're expected to be big in this society i guess. My measurements on a good day is 7.2×4.5. It wasn't until a situation that occurred with a co worker over a yr ago that damaged my pride. I was seeing this girl and i liked her but, as soon as we got intimate she pushed me away after. I knew why and i wasn't dumb. Come to find out later she started fucking our supervisor who was married with kids LOL. She didn't give af. Fast forward there's this new women I'm talking to, so I've started my journey for what feels like the 100th time. I'm currently using the bathmate xtreme 40 and I'm going to follow the 5x3 routine. Also I'm taking some vigrxplus and some other supplements for more bloodflow. I started pumping yesterday but, I'm making today my first official day. Wish me luck i will be keeping weekly tabs on my progress.

Hey CoolCash88, how is the girth progression going?
If you dont mind my asking, could you possibly post a pic of your original size and one now for comparison?
Have you ever had other girls decline you over your girth specifically? It seems odd cuz visually a 7+ inch dick looks quite nice.
Are you really tall so maybe not everything looks proportionate?

 

[DLD]

Well memes,gifs and all that imagery is becoming a quite powerful mean for cyberexpression people using those smilies,and so many other cartoonish little images that can be used instead of words n replace words in so many ways, could this be the beginning of a new pseudo language...hope not what do you think about this?

I was talking the lightning about this and explaining how people just cannot read any longer. They want things immediately and they don’t want to have to do much to get them. The basis of my study is on I will be coming more educated because of this or are we going backwards? Egyptian being the first real language written, their entire language is emojis LOL I think you’ll enjoy the article when I finish it.

 

[Getbiglonger7]

But they had to evolve, nowadays Arabic countries have a beautiful written language.n they have absolutely nothing to do with emojis do they?..Most of the modern"creations" could be influenced by all those Egyptian emojis. As you mentioned above.

 

[Getbiglonger7]

I meant modern emoticons,emojis n all that stuff people use to express a thought an idea

 

[j1975]

I want to gain 2 inches in length and 2 inches in girth. So basically from 7.2x4.5 to 9.2x6.5. A 7.2 length isn't much ifor you girth is skinny af LOL So hopefully with the routine ssj and hardcore stretches i can see some pretty goods by this time next year.

a 2 inch gain in length is very possible but the 2 inch gain in girth which is permanent is probably not that is a massive increase

 

[j1975]

base girth for me was the easiest I gained 1 inch from 5.25 to 6.25 I dd this with fairly heavy hanging 33 pounds straight down ,midshaft ive only cemented 1/4 inch

 

[DLD]

base girth for me was the easiest I gained 1 inch from 5.25 to 6.25 I dd this with fairly heavy hanging 33 pounds straight down ,midshaft ive only cemented 1/4 inch

The easiest gain to make is bass thickness. With all heavy downward stretching whether it’s manual, Lengthmaster or hanging the base will increase in size exponentially. Keep on doing what you’re doing and you will cement that full inch.

 

[j1975]

this was 7 years ago dld when I was hanging the 1 inch was cemented a long time ago

 

[DLD]

this was 7 years ago dld when I was hanging the 1 inch was cemented a long time ago

Oh, I got you my brother, thanks

 

[huge-girth]

Hi everybody I'm a 31 yr old black male. I always kinda felt insecure about my size bc being black you're expected to be big in this society i guess. My measurements on a good day is 7.2×4.5. It wasn't until a situation that occurred with a co worker over a yr ago that damaged my pride. I was seeing this girl and i liked her but, as soon as we got intimate she pushed me away after. I knew why and i wasn't dumb. Come to find out later she started fucking our supervisor who was married with kids LOL. She didn't give af. Fast forward there's this new women I'm talking to, so I've started my journey for what feels like the 100th time. I'm currently using the bathmate xtreme 40 and I'm going to follow the 5x3 routine. Also I'm taking some vigrxplus and some other supplements for more bloodflow. I started pumping yesterday but, I'm making today my first official day. Wish me luck i will be keeping weekly tabs on my progress.

My brother, if you are still lacking commitment and consistency, allow me coach you. With me coaching you, I don't think you will ever abandon your PE goals anymore. I will guide you to success within a 1 year period. Try me.