Suggestions For Recovery - SUPPLEMENTS

[SeekingSize]

Hi everyone. Been lurking for some bit. Only recently started posting and I have enjoyed the information the brotherhood shares so I thought I would try to give something back. I've only been involved in PE since Dec 2022. Pleased with my gains so far but thought I would like to throw something out there that maybe a few of you would consider trying. I have over 35 years of background in working with athletes, military units, increase performance, injuries,etc. So I thought I would give back by making suggestions on a topic I am well versed on - PHYSICAL RECOVERY. I know supplements like arginine and citrulline have been recommended for PE. Those help with blood flow, nitric oxide,etc but what if there was a supplement you could take to speed up recovery of damaged tissue (that's what we are doing when we practice PE)? Quicker recovery means quicker development. The penis is not a muscle, but damaged tissue is damaged tissue. The body tries to find a way to heal whether its a muscle, a tendon , a bone,etc.

CISSUS (also nicknamed "the bonesetter")
This has been my go to for years with injuries. Quick personal story had an injury that was going to have me wrapped up for about 17 weeks. I was back on my feet and back at it in 7 weeks. I have put people on programs of Cissus who have had injuries (tendons, ligaments, broken bones,etc) over the years and every single time the end result is the same. It cuts recovery time in half or more. Here are a few informational links on the healing properties of Cissus:

Athletes Turn to the Remarkable Restorative Agent Cissus Quadrangularis to Strengthen Joints

https://mach-dich-wach.de/en/blogs/gesundheitsblog/die-wirkung-von-cissus-quadrangularis

PEPTIDES
Peptides have been around forever (technically since I think the 50s). But in the last couple of years they are gaining a lot of public attention because of how effective they are. There are peptides for just about anything (injury recovery, weight loss, glucose balance, hair rewgrowth,etc).
One specific peptide (BPC-157) has been getting a ton of attention because of it's ability to heal injuries including things like nerve damage and even injuries that are years old. You guys would be interested in it because of its properties of wound healing, blood vessel growth and nitric oxide generation. Below are a few links to information about BPC 157:

https://www.limitlessmale.com/bpc-157/#:~:text=BPC-157 is a peptide,blood flow to damaged tissues

.

https://antiagingnorthwest.com/7-benefits-of-bpc-157-that-you-need-to-know-about/

Anyway just thought I would share. The links I provided I am not affiliated with. I do not know those people. They were just random Google searches to help get those of you going who might be interested in learning more. There are even peptides to break down scar tissue - this might help some of you that were too aggressive and ended creating unnecessary scar tissue which can hinder your PE goals.

Once again I am new to PE and am not claiming these resources will improve your PE development. These are simply suggestions based on my experience of working with what is basically "breaking down tissue and rebuilding it as quickly as possible" for decades. I would love to be able to tell you these products added countless inches to my PE protocol, but I cannot because of my lifestyle I am already taking supplements for recovery from my training. So I don't have a baseline to compare to.. But for those of you who have been in the PE game for awhile and havent modified your nutrition/supplementation to work towards your PE goal, you have a baseline that should you decide to start adding recovery agents you would get some credible feedback on whether these recovery agents help your PE program or not. Thanks again to the brotherhood for all the great information. I hope I was able to give a little something back that helps.

 

[DLD]

Hi everyone. Been lurking for some bit. Only recently started posting and I have enjoyed the information the brotherhood shares so I thought I would try to give something back. I've only been involved in PE since Dec 2022. Pleased with my gains so far but thought I would like to throw something out there that maybe a few of you would consider trying. I have over 35 years of background in working with athletes, military units, increase performance, injuries,etc. So I thought I would give back by making suggestions on a topic I am well versed on - PHYSICAL RECOVERY. I know supplements like arginine and citrulline have been recommended for PE. Those help with blood flow, nitric oxide,etc but what if there was a supplement you could take to speed up recovery of damaged tissue (that's what we are doing when we practice PE)? Quicker recovery means quicker development. The penis is not a muscle, but damaged tissue is damaged tissue. The body tries to find a way to heal whether its a muscle, a tendon , a bone,etc.

CISSUS (also nicknamed "the bonesetter")
This has been my go to for years with injuries. Quick personal story had an injury that was going to have me wrapped up for about 17 weeks. I was back on my feet and back at it in 7 weeks. I have put people on programs of Cissus who have had injuries (tendons, ligaments, broken bones,etc) over the years and every single time the end result is the same. It cuts recovery time in half or more. Here are a few informational links on the healing properties of Cissus:

Athletes Turn to the Remarkable Restorative Agent Cissus Quadrangularis to Strengthen Joints

https://mach-dich-wach.de/en/blogs/gesundheitsblog/die-wirkung-von-cissus-quadrangularis

PEPTIDES
Peptides have been around forever (technically since I think the 50s). But in the last couple of years they are gaining a lot of public attention because of how effective they are. There are peptides for just about anything (injury recovery, weight loss, glucose balance, hair rewgrowth,etc).
One specific peptide (BPC-157) has been getting a ton of attention because of it's ability to heal injuries including things like nerve damage and even injuries that are years old. You guys would be interested in it because of its properties of wound healing, blood vessel growth and nitric oxide generation. Below are a few links to information about BPC 157:

https://www.limitlessmale.com/bpc-157/#:~:text=BPC-157 is a peptide,blood flow to damaged tissues

.

https://antiagingnorthwest.com/7-benefits-of-bpc-157-that-you-need-to-know-about/

Anyway just thought I would share. The links I provided I am not affiliated with. I do not know those people. They were just random Google searches to help get those of you going who might be interested in learning more. There are even peptides to break down scar tissue - this might help some of you that were too aggressive and ended creating unnecessary scar tissue which can hinder your PE goals.

Once again I am new to PE and am not claiming these resources will improve your PE development. These are simply suggestions based on my experience of working with what is basically "breaking down tissue and rebuilding it as quickly as possible" for decades. I would love to be able to tell you these products added countless inches to my PE protocol, but I cannot because of my lifestyle I am already taking supplements for recovery from my training. So I don't have a baseline to compare to.. But for those of you who have been in the PE game for awhile and havent modified your nutrition/supplementation to work towards your PE goal, you have a baseline that should you decide to start adding recovery agents you would get some credible feedback on whether these recovery agents help your PE program or not. Thanks again to the brotherhood for all the great information. I hope I was able to give a little something back that helps.

Thank you so much for this amazing work

 

[SeekingSize]

Thank you so much for this amazing work

I hope it helps out the brotherhood.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I need to read this later on...thanks for sharing. I love these kind of topics. I add this thread to one of my 553 bookmarks from MOS.

 

[DLD]

I hope it helps out the brotherhood.

Of course it does!

 

[Big banana]

Hi everyone. Been lurking for some bit. Only recently started posting and I have enjoyed the information the brotherhood shares so I thought I would try to give something back. I've only been involved in PE since Dec 2022. Pleased with my gains so far but thought I would like to throw something out there that maybe a few of you would consider trying. I have over 35 years of background in working with athletes, military units, increase performance, injuries,etc. So I thought I would give back by making suggestions on a topic I am well versed on - PHYSICAL RECOVERY. I know supplements like arginine and citrulline have been recommended for PE. Those help with blood flow, nitric oxide,etc but what if there was a supplement you could take to speed up recovery of damaged tissue (that's what we are doing when we practice PE)? Quicker recovery means quicker development. The penis is not a muscle, but damaged tissue is damaged tissue. The body tries to find a way to heal whether its a muscle, a tendon , a bone,etc.

CISSUS (also nicknamed "the bonesetter")
This has been my go to for years with injuries. Quick personal story had an injury that was going to have me wrapped up for about 17 weeks. I was back on my feet and back at it in 7 weeks. I have put people on programs of Cissus who have had injuries (tendons, ligaments, broken bones,etc) over the years and every single time the end result is the same. It cuts recovery time in half or more. Here are a few informational links on the healing properties of Cissus:

Athletes Turn to the Remarkable Restorative Agent Cissus Quadrangularis to Strengthen Joints

https://mach-dich-wach.de/en/blogs/gesundheitsblog/die-wirkung-von-cissus-quadrangularis

PEPTIDES
Peptides have been around forever (technically since I think the 50s). But in the last couple of years they are gaining a lot of public attention because of how effective they are. There are peptides for just about anything (injury recovery, weight loss, glucose balance, hair rewgrowth,etc).
One specific peptide (BPC-157) has been getting a ton of attention because of it's ability to heal injuries including things like nerve damage and even injuries that are years old. You guys would be interested in it because of its properties of wound healing, blood vessel growth and nitric oxide generation. Below are a few links to information about BPC 157:

https://www.limitlessmale.com/bpc-157/#:~:text=BPC-157 is a peptide,blood flow to damaged tissues

.

https://antiagingnorthwest.com/7-benefits-of-bpc-157-that-you-need-to-know-about/

Anyway just thought I would share. The links I provided I am not affiliated with. I do not know those people. They were just random Google searches to help get those of you going who might be interested in learning more. There are even peptides to break down scar tissue - this might help some of you that were too aggressive and ended creating unnecessary scar tissue which can hinder your PE goals.

Once again I am new to PE and am not claiming these resources will improve your PE development. These are simply suggestions based on my experience of working with what is basically "breaking down tissue and rebuilding it as quickly as possible" for decades. I would love to be able to tell you these products added countless inches to my PE protocol, but I cannot because of my lifestyle I am already taking supplements for recovery from my training. So I don't have a baseline to compare to.. But for those of you who have been in the PE game for awhile and havent modified your nutrition/supplementation to work towards your PE goal, you have a baseline that should you decide to start adding recovery agents you would get some credible feedback on whether these recovery agents help your PE program or not. Thanks again to the brotherhood for all the great information. I hope I was able to give a little something back that helps.

I’ve been dealing with partially ripped tendons in my elbows for the last four years I recently started looking into peptides BP 157, and TB 500 combined. Would you have any reputable place to purchase these from? I’ve come across quite a few, but haven’t pulled the trigger on any places yet.

 

[oldandlively]

My wife and her friends purchased them in bulk when they needed them in bulk at Biolongevity Labs, or distributing repackagers like Direct Health Shop or Amino USA.

 

[Big banana]

My wife and her friends purchased them in bulk when they needed them in bulk at Biolongevity Labs, or distributing repackagers like Direct Health Shop or Amino USA.

I believe I’ve heard of the biolongevity labs an amino USA..

 

[DLD]

I believe I’ve heard of the biolongevity labs an amino USA..

So usa is a bad thing?

 

[Big banana]

So usa is a bad thing?

The problem is, there are so many mixed reviews on it all that I’ve read, that has made me not pull the trigger yet, not necessarily from Amino USA. It’s all kind of a gray area it seems as to reputable sources and I just want to get the real deal. I don’t want any watered down bs that’s been cut with anything!.

That’s why I figured I’d ask some people on here if they’ve had good use from a specific place, then I would probably just order it from said place. I’m gonna check out the two mentioned above again. I was gonna try “peptide science” some say their good and another’s say it’s BS…

 

[Big banana]

My wife and her friends purchased them in bulk when they needed them in bulk at Biolongevity Labs, or distributing repackagers like Direct Health Shop or Amino USA.

I’m gonna look into those that you suggested! Thanks

 

[oldandlively]

I’m gonna look into those that you suggested! Thanks

Why not go straight to the source, Biolongevity Labs. Sign up with an account, purchase a specific smallest size sample, and you got yourself a nice niche to use as much as you want. The company may have changed the policies of who can obtain from it directly, but why not just ask?

 

[Big banana]

Why not go straight to the source, Biolongevity Labs. Sign up with an account, purchase a specific smallest size sample, and you got yourself a nice niche to use as much as you want. The company may have changed the policies of who can obtain from it directly, but why not just ask?

I only found out about these peptides in the last two months.. I’ll check them out as I need some thing considering my left elbow is so bad.. it’s halted a lot in my life in the last four years.
I go to see a surgeon on Monday just so she can take a look at it. I really don’t want surgery though.

 

[oldandlively]

I only found out about these peptides in the last two months.. I’ll check them out as I need some thing considering my left elbow is so bad.. it’s halted a lot in my life in the last four years.
I go to see a surgeon on Monday just so she can take a look at it. I really don’t want surgery though.

I may be wrong, but your elbow may have a free floating fragmentation of something in there. X-ray "may" detect the fragmentation, but MRI will see them better. My left and right knees were the same. X-ray didn't pick them up, but under MRI, both knees displayed fragments like fragmentary grenades went off inside.

 

[Big banana]

I may be wrong, but your elbow may have a free floating fragmentation of something in there. X-ray "may" detect the fragmentation, but MRI will see them better. My left and right knees were the same. X-ray didn't pick them up, but under MRI, both knees displayed fragments like fragmentary grenades went off inside.

It’s very possible.. but x-rays showed nothing. I had an MRI last year that showed the ripped tendons but they never mentioned anything about any fragments.. I definitely have a decent lump, and lot of scar tissue.
There’s multiple factors why my left Elbow is so much worse than my right ever got.. i’ve been in multiple motorcycle accidents, skateboard injuries, snowboarding you name it. I also do Upholstery, which is very straining on the joints and tendons.. I ripped them doing upholstery 4years ago.. but back in 2007 I went sliding down the left lane of the highway on my motorcycle. I have a decent scar on my left arm elbow area because it it..
so again, many factors here, but somethings Gotta give

 

[oldandlively]

Yeah, x-rays showed nothing. I had an MRI last year that showed the ripped tendons
but they never mentioned anything about any fragments..

Bingo! Mind shown up originally as torn tendons, then the second a year later as loose tendon fragments, and a year after that, grenade fragmentation. They went in a did a quick laparoscopic procedure for both knees. After that, smooth as cemented butter (medical joke for bones still grinding on bones).

 

[Big banana]

Bingo! Mind shown up originally as torn tendons, then the second a year later as loose tendon fragments, and a year after that, grenade fragmentation. They went in a did a quick laparoscopic procedure for both knees. After that, smooth as cemented butter (medical joke for bones still grinding on bones).

That’s what I’m scared of bone on bone.
I’ve gotten a few Cortizone shots in the last year that have helped but when they wear off it’s hell again. This passed October the shots wore off.
Now my left has this weird clicking.. I mean it’s so bad it’s hard to stretch out my elastic band on sweatpants..

 

[oldandlively]

That’s what I’m scared of bone on bone.
I’ve gotten a few Cortizone shots in the last year that have helped but when they wear off it’s hell again. This passed October the shot wore off.
Now my left now has this weird clicking.. I mean it’s so bad it’s hard to stretch out my elastic band on sweatpants.. hell putting the silistretchers on and off are give me a run for my money..
blaaa

YES SIR REE!! You're bone on bone grinding. Welcome to the ya-65-year-old-joint club.

Options:
Total joint replacement: you may be too young to get it approved.

Artificial meniscus implant: pretty fast, and no age restriction. This is your insurance call.

Partial restoration: if your meniscus layers are still there, PRP will help to restore. This, you have to get a full consultation.

Total restoration: this is experimental but how about stem-cell therapy? 3 of my colleagues had the procedure since they were lucky enough to treat the wear out early. Not so much for me.

 

[Big banana]

YES SIR REE!! You're bone on bone grinding. Welcome to the ya-65-year-old-joint club.

Options:
Total joint replacement: you may be too young to get it approved.

Artificial meniscus implant: pretty fast, and no age restriction. This is your insurance call.

Partial restoration: if your meniscus layers are still there, PRP will help to restore. This, you have to get a full consultation.

Total restoration: this is experimental but how about stem-cell therapy? 3 of my colleagues had the procedure since they were lucky enough to treat the wear out early. Not so much for me.

41 one here.. i would like to get the PRP and stem a shot, they’re just kind of on the expensive side. That’s why I was wanted to give the peptides a shot.. we’ll see how the doctors appointment goes on Monday but I may just have to get another Cortizone shot because I got a really big job coming up that I absolutely need and without the shot i’m up shit creek.

 

[DLD]

YES SIR REE!! You're bone on bone grinding. Welcome to the ya-65-year-old-joint club.

Thank God i am only 56