Somewhat painful, cant avoid nutsack skin / or heavy twisting of forehead

thatguy86

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Just getting started with Bathmate xtreme, and I am wondering how to approach this, my nutsack skin goes quite far up the shaft, when pumping this is where I can either pull the foreskin back tho then the forehead starts to "twist" back when pumping, or I can enter with the foreskin in a relaxed state (not so much pulled back) but at this point quite a bit of skin from the nutsack will get pulled into the pump, neither of the two options are comfortable at all, and I cant achieve anywhere close to full pump at all since it becomes increasingly painful the harder I pump.


I have only had 7 sessions so far and I know that the body needs to get used to the vacuum, is this normal and should I just slowly work towards full pump over time? Some have said it can take up to 30 days to build up to full pump.
 
Just getting started with Bathmate xtreme, and I am wondering how to approach this, my nutsack skin goes quite far up the shaft, when pumping this is where I can either pull the foreskin back tho then the forehead starts to "twist" back when pumping, or I can enter with the foreskin in a relaxed state (not so much pulled back) but at this point quite a bit of skin from the nutsack will get pulled into the pump, neither of the two options are comfortable at all, and I cant achieve anywhere close to full pump at all since it becomes increasingly painful the harder I pump.


I have only had 7 sessions so far and I know that the body needs to get used to the vacuum, is this normal and should I just slowly work towards full pump over time? Some have said it can take up to 30 days to build up to full pump.
It's normal. You will get used to the feeling, and it will never be comfortable with the Bathmate pumps, especially if you remove the comfort insert which you should do, in order to get maximum expansion.

It can take some time to get maximum expansion, and vaccum/pressure when you are new to pumping.
Look at this post, and you will understand:
🔗 Helping with Bathmate (w/ pics, before/after).

You should do this stretching exercise, to reduce your "turkey neck":

🔗 Ball & Lig Stretch (Video 02).

You can also tie your scrotum with something to keep them from being sucked into the pump/cylinder.

Hope this helps.
 
It's normal. You will get used to the feeling, and it will never be comfortable with the Bathmate pumps, especially if you remove the comfort insert which you should do, in order to get maximum expansion.

It can take some time to get maximum expansion, and vaccum/pressure when you are new to pumping.
Look at this post, and you will understand:
🔗 Helping with Bathmate (w/ pics, before/after).

You should do this stretching exercise, to reduce your "turkey neck":

🔗 Ball & Lig Stretch (Video 02).

You can also tie your scrotum with something to keep them from being sucked into the pump/cylinder.

Hope this helps.

Thanks a lot for the feedback and advice, I will definitely be practicing the ball & lig stretching.

The comfort insert I only used the very first session, and since I have been running without it and gradually increasing the pressure, and two last sessions I have been able to increase the pressure to the point where the bellows are now fully compressed on the pump. Tho I presume there is even more pressure to be attained from the pump.
 
Thanks a lot for the feedback and advice, I will definitely be practicing the ball & lig stretching.

The comfort insert I only used the very first session, and since I have been running without it and gradually increasing the pressure, and two last sessions I have been able to increase the pressure to the point where the bellows are now fully compressed on the pump. Tho I presume there is even more pressure to be attained from the pump.
Removing the pad will make things so much more gainful. Good work!
 
Thanks a lot for the feedback and advice, I will definitely be practicing the ball & lig stretching.

The comfort insert I only used the very first session, and since I have been running without it and gradually increasing the pressure, and two last sessions I have been able to increase the pressure to the point where the bellows are now fully compressed on the pump. Tho I presume there is even more pressure to be attained from the pump.
Do you have the Hydromax version, without external hand pump?
 
Hydroxtreme with hand pump.

I did initially purchase the Hydromax version, but I found Hydroxtreme for less than 130$ in a local webshop so I decided to get that as well, and all I can say is that Hydroxtreme is in a different league, Hydromax seem like a toy compared to Hydroxtreme.
You want the HydroXtreme version for sure. You can convert your Hydromax pump with a mod if you want to. It's called; Vacu Vin mod. Then you would be able to add more pressure to the Hydromax pump. The same level of pressure/vacuum as in the HydroXtreme version.

Here is a thread about that:
🔗 Thread: Bathmate mod.
 
Hydroxtreme with hand pump.

I did initially purchase the Hydromax version, but I found Hydroxtreme for less than 130$ in a local webshop so I decided to get that as well, and all I can say is that Hydroxtreme is in a different league, Hydromax seem like a toy compared to Hydroxtreme.
Yes, I can confirm that too. Started off with a Hydromax 7 which I soon filled up in length and then bought the Hydroextreme 9, and what a difference.

Took some time getting used to even higher pressure, but after a while even that starts to feel comfortable. So just give it some time and you’ll be pumping at full pressure. It kinda hurt to start off with so understand what you’re saying about the pain.
 
Yes, I can confirm that too. Started off with a Hydromax 7 which I soon filled up in length and then bought the Hydroextreme 9, and what a difference.

Took some time getting used to even higher pressure, but after a while even that starts to feel comfortable. So just give it some time and you’ll be pumping at full pressure. It kinda hurt to start off with so understand what you’re saying about the pain.
The gator 🐊 is a bastard. 😂
(rubber creases at the base, without the comfort insert).
 
Thanks for all replies, I am just getting started on my PE journey, and keep finding more and more useful information.

First off what got me started is the fact that I have been dealing with quite severe Delayed Ejaculation for almost 20 years now. For many years I had no idea this was a thing or that I were suffering from it, I wore this like a badge of honor and took a lot of pride in the fact I could last for several hours, but then as we got older and lives got more hectic with kids and more busy work schedules, sex became a chore and I withdrew to jerking off in secrecy, and sex life was barely functioning we maybe had sex once every 2-6 months for past 10 years, so a couple of months ago I took contact with my doctor and that got the ball rolling trying to actually figure out what the heck is going on.

Unfortunately doctor had very little help to offer and just prescribed 100mg Viagra, even when I told doctor getting a hard-on was not my main problem but keeping it erect to finish the act, tho Viagra does help a bit, but not really I will still go limp when I have used every ounce of energy I have left to give.

Doctor only took a few limited tests such as cholesterol, C, D and B vitamin levels, which I have figured is the standard procedure in our country, unless I go to a private clinic and pay for extensive testing myself, at a hefty premium.


This lead me down the rabbit hole, and finally ending up here.

After doing a ton of research and spending fuck ton of time on podcasts reading forums, its quite obvious I have been heavily addicted to adult entertainment which have distorted my view on sex, not to mention a bad case of death grip, since I can barely feel anything while having sex, luckily this is starting to change!!!


I have abstained from jerking off and watching adult entertainment for almost a month and a half, but its really the last week and a half of pumping I am starting to enjoy having sex again since it does greatly increase sensitivity.


That said I cant wait to see some gains as I am a grower which have made me extremely self conscious about my junk every since I was a kid, hopefully I can also become more of a shower over time as well 🤞

Nor did it help when my wife (gf at the time) made the mistake of saying "I cant believe how something that small can become that big" I as the self conscious prick I am about my junk I then blatantly disregarded the second part of the sentence and it have kept haunting me ever since nearly two decades ago, I know empirically I am above average but still want to make some gains, same way she wants to get a boob job I want a longer and more girthy penis, luckily for me its not a $10k operation 😁
 
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I like this thread, but I have one caveat. I believe staying hard in the pump is more important than getting more pressure or trying to tolerate too much pain. I lose my erection if the gator is hurting too much. When it's hurting me, I prefer to go up a size to my other wider bathmate and use the comfort insert. It's wider so there's still room for expansion. I know everyone is different, but many of us can't handle maximum pressure either, even after like 10 years of having a bathmate. I have much better results with a bit less pressure, and the comfort insert when needed. Slow and steady wins the race sometimes. And stay hard.
 
I like this thread, but I have one caveat. I believe staying hard in the pump is more important than getting more pressure or trying to tolerate too much pain. I lose my erection if the gator is hurting too much. When it's hurting me, I prefer to go up a size to my other wider bathmate and use the comfort insert. It's wider so there's still room for expansion. I know everyone is different, but many of us can't handle maximum pressure either, even after like 10 years of having a bathmate. I have much better results with a bit less pressure, and the comfort insert when needed. Slow and steady wins the race sometimes. And stay hard.
Everything you talk about may be true. You need consistency to gain optimally. You should not have any pain. But in the beginning there will be some discomfort. If you experience pain you have to much vaccum in the pump/cylinder. By the way, I can't handle maximum vaccum either, in the HydroXtreme pumps. In the Hydromax it's possible...to max out the vaccum. Then you can implement the, Vacu Vin mod.

But: I have never been able to use the comfort insert (not even when I started), to much expansion in girth and my penis would get stuck at the end of the pipe of the comfort insert (my penis was short), so this stopped all the expansion for me (both in length and girth).

When I was using the Bathmate (Hydromax 5 and then, HydroXtreme 7 Wide Boy - Same diameter as HydroXtreme 9);
My penis would after some time expand hard into the rubber creases. If I used the comfort insert, I would not get any substantial expansion at all, not even at length.

I wouldn't have made any gains. Most girth gains I made by maxing out the Hydromax 5 without the comfort insert.

This is the reason I promote removing the "comfort insert". If you can't handle it, my belief is that your best solution is to get the MityVac pump. At least for me I want fast gains, and maximum expansion of my tissue.

My belief is also that, if you use the comfort insert, you will mostly work on length. You would reduce the expansion so much in girth, that you would not get the maximum expansion of your tissue. Even if you do not max out the cylinders diameter when you are starting out, when you remove the comfort insert" you will allow your penis to expand more in girth.

Bathmate are promoting their pumps in a way that emphasise to increase your penis length. So I assume that when you remove the comfort insert, you use the pump for something that it's not designed to do.

Bathmate have only designed the pump to increase your length? I don't know but as more user experiences reviews I get from brothers...the more I believe that the Bathmate pump is only for increasing your length. When you read the reviews on their website you also get that feeling.

Maybe this is the reason it do not work optimally when you remove the comfort insert (discomfort != pain).

I don't know why this is, I think you change the dynamics of how the vaccum is distrubuted inside the cylinder/pump. Maybe I'm incorrect? But I based this on my personal experiences of maxing out the hydromax 5 in girth. If I would have used the comfort insert I would have made no gains.

When your penis slams into the pipe on the comfort insert, your penis would start to expand in length. So that would be lengthwork in the pump.

Just my thought on the Bathmate pump.
 
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So I see that pretty much everyone say "pump while erect", I have only twice been able to get fully erect while using the pump, since I abstaining from adult entertainment I find it extremely hard especially since I am also trying to manhandle the pump and everything in the shower at the same time.

Holy shit I almost can't believe this, only two weeks in I am seeing practically half a inch of girth increase, I don't measure throughout the day, but it is clear as day that it is getting more girthy, of course I highly doubt its that much lets say 18 hours since last pump, but the full effect of pumping seem to last several hours. Another huge benefit I am seeing is that penis do not turtle nearly as much as it used to do.

Now I am taking A LOT of actions at the same time here so there are likely multiple compounding effects interacting.
  1. Pumping.
  2. Getting more exercise.
  3. Quit smoking.
  4. Healthy eating and fasting.
  5. Making sure I get more and better sleep.
  6. Abstaining from adult entertainment, we do watch some during sex but I don't watch adult entertainment during my spare time.
  7. No longer masturbating when not having sex.

Do you guys shave or trim, and if you trim any optimal length where its still easy to obtain vacuum and not cause discomfort to partner?
 
So I see that pretty much everyone say "pump while erect", I have only twice been able to get fully erect while using the pump, since I abstaining from adult entertainment I find it extremely hard especially since I am also trying to manhandle the pump and everything in the shower at the same time.

Holy shit I almost can't believe this, only two weeks in I am seeing practically half a inch of girth increase, I don't measure throughout the day, but it is clear as day that it is getting more girthy, of course I highly doubt its that much lets say 18 hours since last pump, but the full effect of pumping seem to last several hours. Another huge benefit I am seeing is that penis do not turtle nearly as much as it used to do.

Now I am taking A LOT of actions at the same time here so there are likely multiple compounding effects interacting.
  1. Pumping.
  2. Getting more exercise.
  3. Quit smoking.
  4. Healthy eating and fasting.
  5. Making sure I get more and better sleep.
  6. Abstaining from adult entertainment, we do watch some during sex but I don't watch adult entertainment during my spare time.
  7. No longer masturbating when not having sex.

Do you guys shave or trim, and if you trim any optimal length where its still easy to obtain vacuum and not cause discomfort to partner?
A lot of good actions you have taken there brother. I’m guessing it’s the Bathmate you use and then you need to shave it all away for maximum suction/pressure. With the MityVac you don’t even need to shave but I prefer doing it anyway.

If you’re going for girth I would highly advice you to do SSJ’s(Slow Squash Jelqs) as well as those will aid in you gaining primarily girth but that combined with the pumping might also give you some length as well.

The reason for going in the pump erect is that it will stretch out that tunica even more than compared to going in flaccid.

Best of luck and remember this takes time, consistency and dedication to make those gains permanent. And the nice thing about pumping is that you almost get instant results but takes time(months) to make it permanent.
 
Great job, ThatGuy86. Congrats.

The OP said "painful" in his original post. He was told that was "normal". After I pushed back on that, then it was clarified that pain isn't good, which was exactly my point.

Much of the talk in this thread about the comfort insert is based around the assumption that all guys are the same girth. Which is silly. When I use my wide Bathmate with the comfort insert, I can expand ridiculously bigger and the comfort insert isn't restricting my girth at all. It goes without saying that some guys are thinner than others, and still have plenty of room.

Also to say you wouldn't have gained if you did it a different way is just unprovable. I've gained quite a bit with comfort inserts. I've been reading this forum for like 15 years and I've seen hundreds of ways that men have gained. One method doesn't fit all. I understand that your method might be ideal, but not for everyone, and pain is always a no-no, because we don't want these newbies to give up and just quit (as we've also seen hundreds of times).

I do agree that my 2 different sizes of Bathmates have different levels/types of pressure. It's hard to describe. The wider bathmate pulls more on my base, and the thinner bathmate pulls more on my shaft. That is why I think you're feeling a different tug and getting better gains when removing the comfort insert. Not because of the pain or the gator, but because the distance between your shaft and the walls of the bathmate is different. Which some guys can achieve just by using a different size pump, and without the pain.
 
Great job, ThatGuy86. Congrats.

The OP said "painful" in his original post. He was told that was "normal". After I pushed back on that, then it was clarified that pain isn't good, which was exactly my point.

Much of the talk in this thread about the comfort insert is based around the assumption that all guys are the same girth. Which is sili. When I use my wide Bathmate with the comfort insert, I can expand ridiculously bigger and the comfort insert isn't restricting my girth at all. It goes without saying that some guys are thinner than others, and still have plenty of room.

Also to say you wouldn't have gained if you did it a different way is just unprovable. I've gained quite a bit with comfort inserts. I've been reading this forum for like 15 years and I've seen hundreds of ways that men have gained. One method doesn't fit all. I understand that your method might be ideal, but not for everyone, and pain is always a no-no, because we don't want these newbies to give up and just quit (as we've also seen hundreds of times).

I do agree that my 2 different sizes of Bathmates have different levels/types of pressure. It's hard to describe. The wider bathmate pulls more on my base, and the thinner bathmate pulls more on my shaft. That is why I think you're feeling a different tug and getting better gains when removing the comfort insert. Not because of the pain or the gator, but because the distance between your shaft and the walls of the bathmate is different. Which some guys can achieve just by using a different size pump, and without the pain.
I have gained too using the Bathmate with the comfort insert, mostly length, around 2 cm of it from Bathmate alone.

Though will try using it without the comfort insert some time just to feel the difference, when I start using it again.

Hope the OP is still going strong and living healthy.
 
Posting here bc this appears to be an appropriate thread.
There’s no pain per se- but the veins just below my glans appear to be swelling up- this has happened with SSJ as well.

it typically goes away within 36/48 hrs or so- if I take a break.
I assume this is just the case off too much too soon without enough rest
 
Posting here bc this appears to be an appropriate thread.
There’s no pain per se- but the veins just below my glans appear to be swelling up- this has happened with SSJ as well.

it typically goes away within 36/48 hrs or so- if I take a break.
I assume this is just the case off too much too soon without enough rest
If they don't hurt there is nothing to worry about. Only if they are hard and painful should you worry. This is nothing more than your penis becoming more vascular
 
If they don't hurt there is nothing to worry about. Only if they are hard and painful should you worry. This is nothing more than your penis becoming more vascular
Indeed. I experienced this when I grew. With increased length and thickness...the vascularity followed. Some days my vains was somewhat harder, but that was just signs of growth.
 
Indeed. I experienced this when I grew. With increased length and thickness...the vascularity followed. Some days my vains was somewhat harder, but that was just signs of growth.

thanks. You two have both been awesome to read here on the site.
I’ve now reached a new mark of 6.5” on BM sticker. I’m avoiding taking real measurements for a little bit and trying to just be consistent with everything, but can’t help when I see it pump to a new level!

plus -I assume that I won’t actually hit these numbers until afew months down of consistently hitting them.
 
thanks. You two have both been awesome to read here on the site.
I’ve now reached a new mark of 6.5” on BM sticker. I’m avoiding taking real measurements for a little bit and trying to just be consistent with everything, but can’t help when I see it pump to a new level!

plus -I assume that I won’t actually hit these numbers until afew months down of consistently hitting them.
Congratulations brother! 🎉🎊🎂
I'm just so happy for you, and that you confirmed my experiences with Bathmate is even more amazing.
Just by removing the "comfort insert", and you are seeing such amazing gains. 👌


You will like this quote, from the thread: 🔗 amazing girth gains from pumping. It describes everything so well.
Temporary gains lead to permanent gains. As girth expands with each session so does the Tunica. As the Tunica is slowly stretched permanent girth is established. It is a process that will repeat itself until you get to your goals.
 
thanks. You two have both been awesome to read here on the site.
I’ve now reached a new mark of 6.5” on BM sticker. I’m avoiding taking real measurements for a little bit and trying to just be consistent with everything, but can’t help when I see it pump to a new level!

plus -I assume that I won’t actually hit these numbers until afew months down of consistently hitting them.

You are welcome and congrats on the 6.5. Try to measure once every 3 months. Some go 6. You don't want to be discouraged measuring to often
 
Hope the OP is still going strong and living healthy.

Still going strong and staying healthy, and no more nicotine withdrawals yaay.

Still not getting comfortable with the pump, I think its a two fold issue I cant really get fully erect when I pump, and often if I don't get erect a bit of my nutsack gets pulled in, not painful but it can really be surprising when you pump and then suddenly a bit of the sack gets pulled in, it feels like when your on a rollercoaster ride.

Secondly is the foreskin where it connects to the forehead, no joking 90% of the time it feels like the cord is going to snap. And I don't have tight foreskin by any means, if anything I have too much to be honest, often times I have to hold around my cock during sex to hold foreskin back to get the proper friction.

With the pump sex is better than ever so its definitely making me more sensitive.
 
Still going strong and staying healthy, and no more nicotine withdrawals yaay.

Still not getting comfortable with the pump, I think its a two fold issue I cant really get fully erect when I pump, and often if I don't get erect a bit of my nutsack gets pulled in, not painful but it can really be surprising when you pump and then suddenly a bit of the sack gets pulled in, it feels like when your on a rollercoaster ride.

Secondly is the foreskin where it connects to the forehead, no joking 90% of the time it feels like the cord is going to snap. And I don't have tight foreskin by any means, if anything I have too much to be honest, often times I have to hold around my cock during sex to hold foreskin back to get the proper friction.

With the pump sex is better than ever so its definitely making me more sensitive.
Glad to hear that, brother.

And when it comes to part of the nutsack getting pulled in I know exactly what you mean as I too used to pump with a Bathmate HydroXtreme 9, which is a little bit too wide for me, so that’s why some of the nutsack got pulled in.

I think you just need to get some more sessions in with the BM HydroXtreme for it to get more comfortable. It really does deliver high vacuum/ pressure. It was uncomfortable for me in in the beginning as well, but then after a few weeks I had no problem going full pressure, pumping until no more water came out.

Why don’t you start off by going in flaccid and pump as much as you can manage to, remember to not pump too fast as it needs some time to adjust the vacuum between each pump. What I used to do was letting approx 5- 10 seconds pass between each pump, so pumping up slowly is key.

After you have gotten conditioned and used to going in flaccid you can then start going in erect. Also remember to do your Slow Squash Jelqs between each pumping set as this will help to reduce fluid build up.

Hope you find better success with the Bathmate HydroXtreme in the future. If not you can just invest in a MityVac with a custom/fitting tube and vacuum gauge, that way you’ll know exactly how much pressure you’re getting.
 
So I see that pretty much everyone say "pump while erect", I have only twice been able to get fully erect while using the pump, since I abstaining from adult entertainment I find it extremely hard especially since I am also trying to manhandle the pump and everything in the shower at the same time.

Holy shit I almost can't believe this, only two weeks in I am seeing practically half a inch of girth increase, I don't measure throughout the day, but it is clear as day that it is getting more girthy, of course I highly doubt its that much lets say 18 hours since last pump, but the full effect of pumping seem to last several hours. Another huge benefit I am seeing is that penis do not turtle nearly as much as it used to do.

Now I am taking A LOT of actions at the same time here so there are likely multiple compounding effects interacting.
  1. Pumping.
  2. Getting more exercise.
  3. Quit smoking.
  4. Healthy eating and fasting.
  5. Making sure I get more and better sleep.
  6. Abstaining from adult entertainment, we do watch some during sex but I don't watch adult entertainment during my spare time.
  7. No longer masturbating when not having sex.

Do you guys shave or trim, and if you trim any optimal length where its still easy to obtain vacuum and not cause discomfort to partner?
So glad you gave up those cancer sticks called ciggarettes, such a detrimental and nasty habit/addiction. So well done, Sir.

Make sure to do your kegels everyday as a strong kegel muscle will make it that much easier to get an erection going without using adult entertainment. I kegel throughout the day and have insane night and morning erections, almost to the point where it hurts.

Also, congratz on those temporary gains, just keep on going and they will become permanent, especially if you do your SSJ’s(Slow Squash Jelqs) between each pumping set.

When it comes to the pubes you must shave it all away, especially in the area where you put the pump on for a guaranteed perfect vacuum seal.
 
Also, congratz on those temporary gains, just keep on going and they will become permanent, especially if you do your SSJ’s(Slow Squash Jelqs) between each pumping set.

When it comes to the pubes you must shave it all away, especially in the area where you put the pump on for a guaranteed perfect vacuum seal.

Hehe the SSJ's are surprisingly effective at first I got a little scared as it started to really get girthy in the middle (doughnut), but a few days later the girth became more uniform.

I gave up on shaving after a few days even tho that was a lot easier when I did it to build vacuum, I have always struggled a lot with ingrown hair whenever I shave even if I do the whole hot/cold water treatment or use oils to make hairs more compliant, likely because I have crazy rapid hair growth, and I would literally cause physical pain to my wife if I don't shave every single day. That said on shortest length on trimmer I found that I can fairly quickly build vacuum, and just occasionally I see that air will leak inside (maybe once every 2-3 days) and I can go a few days between each trimming, and no more pain to my wife.
 
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Update, wife commented that she could clearly see that I am getting bigger!!! 😁😁

I have not really made a lot of measurements, but it is quite clear that I am becoming a lot more girthy, as for length I don't believe I obtained much length, I do however see that for the past 1-2 weeks I consistently go half a inch longer on the sticker than previously.

My shaft have become more girthy, to the point where its catching up to my forehead(glans), I assume it takes longer for the forehead(glans) to gain size?
 
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Update, wife commented that she could clearly see that I am getting bigger!!! 😁😁

I have not really made a lot of measurements, but it is quite clear that I am becoming a lot more girthy, as for length I don't believe I obtained much length, I do however see that for the past 1-2 weeks I consistently go half a inch longer on the sticker than previously.

My shaft have become more girthy, to the point where its catching up to my forehead, I assume it takes longer for the forehead to gain size?

What do you mean with this word?
 
Update, wife commented that she could clearly see that I am getting bigger!!! 😁😁

I have not really made a lot of measurements, but it is quite clear that I am becoming a lot more girthy, as for length I don't believe I obtained much length, I do however see that for the past 1-2 weeks I consistently go half a inch longer on the sticker than previously.

My shaft have become more girthy, to the point where its catching up to my forehead, I assume it takes longer for the forehead to gain size?

awesome man. Precisely where I’m at these days. I was trying not to measure all the time but the wife said it was definitely fatter in her mouth for a BJ and said it looked bigger too.
All of a sudden I was seeing new levels on the pump.
Decided to measure for real and I’ve gained .25 in length and maybe .4/.5 in girth.

seeing results so tangible instantly changed my PE goals to want more than I did now that I’ve seen it works!
 
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