Small gains but big effect

[Sakuratutte]

Hello brotherhood!

First of i will introuduce my self. I am a man in my fourties with a wife and kids and a desktop work. English is not my main language.
From as far as i can remember i have been very conscious and selfhating about my penis size. I remember things like my big sister telling me my penis "was as small as when i was a baby" when i was like 8 years old and that i never been comfortable with showering with other people etc and im still not at this age! I was so concered about my penis size that i didnt have sex until i was in my early twenties (excluding loosing my virginity at the age of 18 totaly drunk). This might not say alot but i was actually pretty popular amongst the ladies and wasnt it for my insecurites i would probably have been able to have sex with alot of girls before that.. it got to a point when rumours that i was gay started to flow around the school since i didnt have sex with the girls that wanted me too... the more i awoided sex the more insecure and depressed i got. Somehow i just did it as i said in my early twenties and never looked back. I havent ever been told i got a small penis or anything like that after that and girls seems to like what i got, still i feel like i need more to stop my old insecurites.

Something is there in the back of my head telling me i want a bigger penis. Especially flaccid since my penis have a habit of shrinking in public lockerooms which always make me feel very bad about my self. Maybe this has always been my big problem that my penis shrinks when i am with others making me think that my penis is small and the others are much bigger.

My starting measurements are:
BPEL: 19 cm (7,5 inch)
EG (base): 16,5 cm (6,5 inch)
EG (midshaft): 14,5 cm (5,7 inch)

As you can see i actually have a big penis i guess! I know this by numbers, but still cant get that into my head sometimes. I always seem to find someway of thinking that the numbers lie.. Maybe a part of this is also that i am a pretty big man. I am about 190 cm (6 feet 3 inch) and i weight about 95 kg (210 punds) with big hands and big feet. Earlier in my life i have been training hard at the gym for about 10 years and was actually weighing in at 110 kg (242 pounds), 95 kg when i was really hard (not much fat). My bodysize has always made my penis look pretty much ordinary to me.. and when shrinkage occours in the loocker room it looks small.

My goals are:
BPEL: 21,5 cm (8,5 inch)
EG (base): 17 cm (6,7 inch). I know this is not much of an increase, but im actually pretty happy with my base. With that said i wouldnt mind if it got even bigger.
EG (midshaft): 16 cm (6,3 inch).
Flaccid: As near my errect state as possible!

With the bathmate and 5x5x3 routine i got to BPEL 20,5 cm and 16 cm midshaft EG and 17,5 cm base EG. The cock i saw and felt was pretty much perfection to me! Even i could feel and see that this was a shitload of big cock! This is what i want to feel everyday! As you see i will aim a little bit higher on the BPEL but this is simply becaouse i think its important to have a little higher goal when my penis is almost already where i want i to be lenght wise..

Routine
So far i have been going for about four weeks. First i tried the sizegenetics but i soon realised that it wouldnt work for me since the base was to small and it was really uncomfortable. I started with manual work instead just using my hands and stretching for about 20-30 minutes two times a day.

After some week i ordered some hanging equipment and a all day extender. This is my third week using the hanger. Im starting to think this might not either be the best way for me. The time put in just stops me doing my work for longer time than i expected and i have a tight schedule with work and kids and wife (who doesnt know im doing this). So now i have ordered the lenghtmaster! I hope this will be the solution to my effectiveness.

Until the lengthmaster arrives i will be doing hanging for 3 times a week. I do about 6 x 15 minutes with weights of about 3,75 - 7,5 kg. To complement this i will be doing manual stretches about every day whenever i can, maybe with a broomstick like SIM. Usually im able to put in 20-30 minutes every evening.
I also do the ball and lig stretch whenever i can, often twice a day.

I have a bathmathe and have tried the 5x5x3 girth routine which i will probably be doing once a week. Lenght will be my first goal and then girth will come after that.

I will try to update this thread at least once a week to keep me motivated and see my progress!

 

[Sakuratutte]

I also have a question. Im getting a bit obsessed with this and is pulling my dick like a monkey whenever i can. Do you think this can be contraproductive? I mean if i pull my penis hard about four times a day?

As a weightlifter this would be pretty stupid behavior and would probably just lead to worse results since the muscle didnt have time to heal. But penis isnt a muscle.. maybe its ok to just stretch as much as possible (until you ofc feel exhausted or the like)?

Another one.. when i stretch manually i feel i get a really good stretch because i can put my fingers right behind the glans. But when using devices with clamp attachement i just dont feel the same strecth since i have to attatch it further down the shaft (maybe 0,5 inch below the glans). Is this a problem? Should i be aming to attach the clamp nearer the glans?

 

[huge-girth]

Congratulations on your natural big size. You are a very lucky man. Your length goal will take you only 6 months to achieve but you should gain more than that required 1 inch so when you stop PE, you will settle at 8.5 inches permanently.

Get the length master, it's better than hanging. You will not hurt your penis or stop your gains if you stretch more often.

 

[TWIST&PULL]

I also have a question. Im getting a bit obsessed with this and is pulling my dick like a monkey whenever i can. Do you think this can be contraproductive? I mean if i pull my penis hard about four times a day?

As a weightlifter this would be pretty stupid behavior and would probably just lead to worse results since the muscle didnt have time to heal. But penis isnt a muscle.. maybe its ok to just stretch as much as possible (until you ofc feel exhausted or the like)?

Another one.. when i stretch manually i feel i get a really good stretch because i can put my fingers right behind the glans. But when using devices with clamp attachement i just dont feel the same strecth since i have to attatch it further down the shaft (maybe 0,5 inch below the glans). Is this a problem? Should i be aming to attach the clamp nearer the glans?

welcome @Sakuratutte, your insecurities and motivation are reminiscent of us all.
If you want 8.5 BPEL bad enough it will be yours.

You will have your doubts and wonder if it’s all really worth it, staying motivated is a daily battle until you measure that first gain!

Be warned though when the ruler says 8.5 you’ll still think it’s lying to you and want 9”

 

[Sakuratutte]

Congratulations on your natural big size. You are a very lucky man. Your length goal will take you only 6 months to achieve but you should gain more than that required 1 inch so when you stop PE, you will settle at 8.5 inches permanently.

Get the length master, it's better than hanging. You will not hurt your penis or stop your gains if you stretch more often.

Thank you for your kind words and the info that i can just pull my penis all day. I would be really thrilled if i could achive 8,5 in 6 months =) Yes i read that i should maybe aim for about 0,5 inch extra than my goal to be sure to always reach 8,5.

 

[Sakuratutte]

welcome @Sakuratutte, your insecurities and motivation are reminiscent of us all.
If you want 8.5 BPEL bad enough it will be yours.

You will have your doubts and wonder if it’s all really worth it, staying motivated is a daily battle until you measure that first gain!

Be warned though when the ruler says 8.5 you’ll still think it’s lying to you and want 9”

I will definitly try to stay motivated! One good thing about me is that im used to work hard and following a scheme since my weightlifting days. The only problem for me now is achieving privacy. If for example my wife is home sick i can have a hard time getting the work out done.. then maybe i have to do manual stretches on the wc or in the shower. But i will keep the work up and hope the amount i can put in will give me the result over time =)

And shit i know.. when i reach 8,5 i probably will be aiming for 10..

 

[TWIST&PULL]

I will definitly try to stay motivated! One good thing about me is that im used to work hard and following a scheme since my weightlifting days. The only problem for me now is achieving privacy. If for example my wife is home sick i can have a hard time getting the work out done.. then maybe i have to do manual stretches on the wc or in the shower. But i will keep the work up and hope the amount i can put in will give me the result over time =)

And shit i know.. when i reach 8,5 i probably will be aiming for 10..

you can only do your best

 

[DLD]

I will definitly try to stay motivated! One good thing about me is that im used to work hard and following a scheme since my weightlifting days. The only problem for me now is achieving privacy. If for example my wife is home sick i can have a hard time getting the work out done.. then maybe i have to do manual stretches on the wc or in the shower. But i will keep the work up and hope the amount i can put in will give me the result over time =)

And shit i know.. when i reach 8,5 i probably will be aiming for 10..

The thing about PE is you're always looking for more. No matter what your goal is you're always wanting to get more and more

 

[9.5inchpro]

Thank you for your kind words and the info that i can just pull my penis all day. I would be really thrilled if i could achive 8,5 in 6 months =) Yes i read that i should maybe aim for about 0,5 inch extra than my goal to be sure to always reach 8,5.

You'll get there,just stay motivated get yourself a length master.

 

[DLD]

You'll get there,just stay motivated get yourself a length master.

2 of the most important things in length

 

[Sakuratutte]

No I havent given up! Im still here but havent had the time to write.

The whole family was sick last week and i wasnt able to train exactly as i wanted. I was able to get in 3 hanging practises with about 1-1,5 hour hanging each time and then ads for about 4 hours.

This weekend i read longmasters thread and it was really an eye opener for me! I will be using some of his findings in my training. My penis has been very sore the first month of PE, to the point that sexual touch hasnt feelt good. Instead i just been feeling pain when i try to masturbate. I think i might have been overdoing the training in a rush for fast results. When i read longmasters thread i really realised that more maybe isnt always better and i will try some of what i learned from his thread. Mostly how important heat is for training and also that the penis needs rest to grow. I will try this new routine for 2 months. If i havent seen any gains then i will now i have to change something.. so be it to go full into longmasters advice with ultrasound or maybe going more for the classical way with more training (which i really would like to skip).

Longmaster also says that it is good to measure the flaccid penis before and after practise to see the effect.. i will try this but already at my first practice i found it to be hard to get a precise measurement. I measured my BPFL to 20,5 cm and BPFL to right behind the glans to 16,5 cm. After practice i think i reached BPFL 21 cm and BPFL right behind glans of about 16,7-17.. but its really hard to measure because depeding how i grip the penis etc im able to stretch it in different ways. I will see if i will continue with this or just measaure every month or the like.

I have also recived my lenghtmaster3 and have tested it twice! What a great device, after testing about 5-6 wrapping techniques i found one that works very well for me. Im using a silicone sleeve and then i put on a thin layer of textile and then a thin layer of "sticky bandage" that comes with the lenghtmaster. This gives me a very nice grip with no pain in the penis =)

My new routine will be pretty much this:
Monday, thuesday, thursday and friday training. Rest of the days of or only very light manual stretching.
I will not be using an all day stretcher. Perhaps i will be using some sort of wrap to keep the penis a bit elongated.
Its so hard to decide what is right when some people say that its good to heal elongated and some say its actually bad for the healing process.
What i would like to skip is the ads anyway becaouse this is a part of what makes my penis sore i think and it would be nice if i could just do my routine and then go back to normal life and let my penis heal.

Warmup 10 minutes with IR-heatpad.
20 minutes lenghtmaster bundled stretches in all directions. With heating from IR-light.
10 minutes lengthmaster bundled strecthes behind the cheeks. With heating from IR-light.
15 minutes hanging with IR-heathpad or IR-light.
15 minutes hanging with IR-heatphad or IR-light. The last 5 minutes i use no heat.

Between each set i rest for about 5-10 minutes so the total routine takes about 1,5 hour.

 

[DLD]

No I havent given up! Im still here but havent had the time to write.

The whole family was sick last week and i wasnt able to train exactly as i wanted. I was able to get in 3 hanging practises with about 1-1,5 hour hanging each time and then ads for about 4 hours.

This weekend i read longmasters thread and it was really an eye opener for me! I will be using some of his findings in my training. My penis has been very sore the first month of PE, to the point that sexual touch hasnt feelt good. Instead i just been feeling pain when i try to masturbate. I think i might have been overdoing the training in a rush for fast results. When i read longmasters thread i really realised that more maybe isnt always better and i will try some of what i learned from his thread. Mostly how important heat is for training and also that the penis needs rest to grow. I will try this new routine for 2 months. If i havent seen any gains then i will now i have to change something.. so be it to go full into longmasters advice with ultrasound or maybe going more for the classical way with more training (which i really would like to skip).

Longmaster also says that it is good to measure the flaccid penis before and after practise to see the effect.. i will try this but already at my first practice i found it to be hard to get a precise measurement. I measured my BPFL to 20,5 cm and BPFL to right behind the glans to 16,5 cm. After practice i think i reached BPFL 21 cm and BPFL right behind glans of about 16,7-17.. but its really hard to measure because depeding how i grip the penis etc im able to stretch it in different ways. I will see if i will continue with this or just measaure every month or the like.

I have also recived my lenghtmaster3 and have tested it twice! What a great device, after testing about 5-6 wrapping techniques i found one that works very well for me. Im using a silicone sleeve and then i put on a thin layer of textile and then a thin layer of "sticky bandage" that comes with the lenghtmaster. This gives me a very nice grip with no pain in the penis =)

My new routine will be pretty much this:
Monday, thuesday, thursday and friday training. Rest of the days of or only very light manual stretching.
I will not be using an all day stretcher. Perhaps i will be using some sort of wrap to keep the penis a bit elongated.
Its so hard to decide what is right when some people say that its good to heal elongated and some say its actually bad for the healing process.
What i would like to skip is the ads anyway becaouse this is a part of what makes my penis sore i think and it would be nice if i could just do my routine and then go back to normal life and let my penis heal.

Warmup 10 minutes with IR-heatpad.
20 minutes lenghtmaster bundled stretches in all directions. With heating from IR-light.
10 minutes lengthmaster bundled strecthes behind the cheeks. With heating from IR-light.
15 minutes hanging with IR-heathpad or IR-light.
15 minutes hanging with IR-heatphad or IR-light. The last 5 minutes i use no heat.

Between each set i rest for about 5-10 minutes so the total routine takes about 1,5 hour.

Excellent work and understanding of the process.

 

[Sakuratutte]

Excellent work and understanding of the process.

Thank you DLD! Can i ask you a question? One thing im not sure of is if im supposed to do the reverse kegel all the time during the stretches with lenghtmaster? Or is the reverse kegel only for some special excersises?

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

One thing im not sure of is if im supposed to do the reverse kegel all the time during the stretches with lenghtmaster? Or is the reverse kegel only for some special excersises?

I don't think you are understanding reverse Kegel fully.
I will explain. It's easier if you think about it as you relax fully into the stretch, and just stretch into that. You want to feel your ligaments and inner penis stretch.

Here are a thread that go through it fully:
PC muscles anatomy.

 

[DLD]

Thank you DLD! Can i ask you a question? One thing im not sure of is if im supposed to do the reverse kegel all the time during the stretches with lenghtmaster? Or is the reverse kegel only for some special excersises?

The reverse kegel should be any time you're stretching. And in the same way , you should always do kegels while you are doing girth work

 

[Sakuratutte]

I don't think you are understanding reverse Kegel fully.
I will explain. It's easier if you think about it as you relax fully into the stretch, and just stretch into that. You want to feel your ligaments and inner penis stretch.

Here are a thread that go through it fully:
PC muscles anatomy.

Thank you, i think i understand the reverese kegel better now. I use the reverse kegel to relax and this helps me stretch the penis further. I can feel this sensation when i use the reverse kegel, like i can pull the penis further out.

I forgot to mention that i used your tips with a broomstick on top of the lm3, only i used a small wooden beam instead. Worked great so thanks for the tip!

 

[Sakuratutte]

The reverse kegel should be any time you're stretching. And in the same way , you should always do kegels while you are doing girth work

Ahh cool, i will try to use the reverse kegel more to get the penis stretched further. Thank you for the tip about girth work as well, i havent been doing kegels while training for girth!

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Thank you, i think i understand the reverese kegel better now. I use the reverse kegel to relax and this helps me stretch the penis further. I can feel this sensation when i use the reverse kegel, like i can pull the penis further out.

I forgot to mention that i used your tips with a broomstick on top of the lm3, only i used a small wooden beam instead. Worked great so thanks for the tip!

I'm so happy to hear all this.
You're very much welcome.

 

[DLD]

Ahh cool, i will try to use the reverse kegel more to get the penis stretched further. Thank you for the tip about girth work as well, i havent been doing kegels while training for girth!

That's what I did. And it made all the difference in the world. I struggled at 8 and a 1/2 inches. But when I finally started doing bundled. Stretching and using kegels. I was able to break the 9 inch point and eventually get to 11 and a 1/2 inches.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

That's what I did. And it made all the difference in the world. I struggled at 8 and a 1/2 inches. But when I finally started doing bundled. Stretching and using kegels. I was able to break the 9 inch point and eventually get to 11 and a 1/2 inches.

Amazing.

At this point in time every brother in this brotherhood, should know the power of bundled stretches.
Start doing them, and never look back.

 

[DLD]

Amazing.

At this point in time every brother in this brotherhood, should know the power of bundled stretches.
Start doing them, and never look back.

Some of the most important things people need to take on are getting a lengthmaster, so they can do the most valuable exercises which are bundles. Nothing compares to this and it will bring growth faster than anything else you can ever do.

https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/lengthmaster-3-penis-stretcher

Everybody should also be doing the ball and lig stretch. Because this loosens the penis in all areas and allows you to get a greater stretch. 5 to ten minutes is plenty of time and will bring incredible results.

The MOSRED Is such an important tool to have if you're looking to make the best growth and healing possible. Nothing compares to this unit on the market. We made it from so many incredible things to help growth.

https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/mos-red-light-for-healing-and-erection-quality

All brothers should also be concentrating on the 5 × 5 × 3 for girthwork. This exercise combination bring this girth gains faster than any other method.

If you want the fastest results, you need to invest in your penis and get the equipment necessary to make record gains

 

[Sakuratutte]

That's what I did. And it made all the difference in the world. I struggled at 8 and a 1/2 inches. But when I finally started doing bundled. Stretching and using kegels. I was able to break the 9 inch point and eventually get to 11 and a 1/2 inches.

Yeah bundled stretches feel so good, you dont have to pull as hard to get the same stretch it seems. This makes the stress on the skin etc less also!

 

[DLD]

Yeah bundled stretches feel so good, you dont have to pull as hard to get the same stretch it seems. This makes the stress on the skin etc less also!

When I invented bundled stretching I never knew how powerful it would be. But once I implemented it, my growth went through the roof. This is why every brother needs to get a length master

https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/lengthmaster-3-penis-stretcher

 

[Sakuratutte]

When I invented bundled stretching I never knew how powerful it would be. But once I implemented it, my growth went through the roof. This is why every brother needs to get a length master

https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/lengthmaster-3-penis-stretcher

Yeah lenghtmaster is really good! You can stretch so much harder/more effective then with your hands. I also like the fact that i was able to find a good way to attach to the champer really fast (took me about 5-6 tries) and now i attach everytime perfect without the need to redo the wrapping or clamping down. With my other hanger i often needed to redo the clamping down several times to find the perfect spot which was really frustrating and time consuming.

 

[DLD]

Yeah lenghtmaster is really good! You can stretch so much harder/more effective then with your hands. I also like the fact that i was able to find a good way to attach to the champer really fast (took me about 5-6 tries) and now i attach everytime perfect without the need to redo the wrapping or clamping down. With my other hanger i often needed to redo the clamping down several times to find the perfect spot which was really frustrating and time consuming.

There is a learning curve with the length master , but if you're consistent and you're determined , you will not only master that , but make incredible growth

 

[Sakuratutte]

Some of the most important things people need to take on are getting a lengthmaster, so they can do the most valuable exercises which are bundles. Nothing compares to this and it will bring growth faster than anything else you can ever do.

https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/lengthmaster-3-penis-stretcher

Everybody should also be doing the ball and lig stretch. Because this loosens the penis in all areas and allows you to get a greater stretch. 5 to ten minutes is plenty of time and will bring incredible results.

The MOSRED Is such an important tool to have if you're looking to make the best growth and healing possible. Nothing compares to this unit on the market. We made it from so many incredible things to help growth.

https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/mos-red-light-for-healing-and-erection-quality

All brothers should also be concentrating on the 5 × 5 × 3 for girthwork. This exercise combination bring this girth gains faster than any other method.

If you want the fastest results, you need to invest in your penis and get the equipment necessary to make record gains

Must have missed this post earlier. I only wanna say thank you to all of you "old timers" thats been doing this for a long time. Its so great to have an entire forum full of knowledge thats been gathered for some decades! Sometimes its almost overwhelming but thanks to you guys always answering the newbie questions you never feel lost.

 

[Sakuratutte]

So ive been using the lengthmaster for about 5 sessions now and it feels really good! I think i will be doing the stretches in all directions this week out and then only do downard bundled stretches and behind the cheeks bundled stretches.

My penis is also feeling better now in the terms of less soreness and pain between the sessions which is nice.

 

[DLD]

Must have missed this post earlier. I only wanna say thank you to all of you "old timers" thats been doing this for a long time. Its so great to have an entire forum full of knowledge thats been gathered for some decades! Sometimes its almost overwhelming but thanks to you guys always answering the newbie questions you never feel lost.

22 years and were still a brotherhood

 

[DLD]

So ive been using the lengthmaster for about 5 sessions now and it feels really good! I think i will be doing the stretches in all directions this week out and then only do downard bundled stretches and behind the cheeks bundled stretches.

My penis is also feeling better now in the terms of less soreness and pain between the sessions which is nice.

Good for you, be sure to go through all the length. Master videos to see exactly how each stretch is done.

 

[Sakuratutte]

So this will be my 8th week of PE and my 4th week of using the lenghtmaster (before that i only hanged).
I have decided that i will measure myself next week to see if i have gained anything. I will measure BPEL, BPSFL and EG base and middle shaft.
I am a bit anxious how i will feel if i cant see any gains. Im not wishing for anything extreme but 0,5 cm (0,2 inches) in lenght would be nice.. so i could see that something is happening. If i cant see any gains on monday when i measure i will measure on wednesday too since erect measurements can be off really easy if you cant get a strong erection.

If i see gains i will keep doing my routine as planned but if i dont see any gains i will keep doing my routine but add 2 hours of ADS each training day and then measure again after 1 month. If i cant see any gains then i will stop training for at least 1 month and start over to see if the rest helps me reset.

 

[Sakuratutte]

I have now been doing pe for eight whole weeks and four weeks with the lenghtmaster involved.
The first four weeks i trained three times a week with hanging weights and the last four weeks i have trained four times a week with a combination of the lm3 and hanging weights.

Today i tried to take my measurements to see if i have gained anything. I hadnt any huge hopes but was very eager to see if pe actually works!
So my starting measurements were
BPEL: 19 cm (7,5 inches)
SBFL: 20 cm (7,87 inches) Im not 100 % sure of this measurement but i think its close to correct.
EG (base): 16,5 cm (6,5 inches)
EG (midshaft): 14,5 cm (5,7 inches)

19/3-24 measurements
BPEL: 19,5-20 cm (7,68-7,87 inches).
SBFL: 20,5-21 cm (7,87-8,27 inches).
EG (base): Not taken correct. Couldnt get this of with full erection. But even with not a full erection i was at 16,5 cm now (same as start).
EG (midshaft): 14,75-15 cm (5,81-5,9 inches).

So results so far is:
0,5-1 cm (0,18-0,37 inches) in BPEL.
0,5-1 cm (0,18-0,37 inches) in SBFL.
0,25-0,5 cm (0,11-0,2 inches) in EG midshaft.
Unchanged in EG base (couldnt get correct measurement).

I think its really hard to get a correct measurement when you both have to try to keep the erection at a perfect 100 % (or as close to it as possible) and at the same time getting the measurement of with the ruler punching into your fatpad. Just knowing that loosing the erection some % makes a big difference in the numbers are stressfull... this is why i have written a range for the measurements were the topnumbers is where i think i were at when i had the peak erection (for maybe some seconds..) and the other is the lower number when i probably had lost some erection power.

I hadnt time to get a full erection measurement of my base girth but even with not a full erection it seems to be the same as my full power erection girth before. This tells me that i probably have grown a bit in this area too.

Summary
Im really thrilled that my program is working! So happy!
When i saw that my penis actually was reaching the 20 cm lenght mark on my ruler i almost got tears in my eyes. It was such a good and cool feeling. Might sound strange but in sweden its like everybody nows that a penis of 20 cm is BIG even in fantasy numbers (thats what i call it when girls thinks that a 15 cm long penis is 20 cm). Often when someone is asking what is a big penis? People will say well 20 cm and up.. Thats of course pure imagination and in real measurements they are propably thinking of more like a 17 cm penis and up.. But for me having a 20 cm is like cementing the fact that my penis is big in my mind.

For now i will keep doing my routine and slowly increasing the load each week.
Im now doing this routine:
18 min LM3
18 min LM3
15 min weight hanging
15 min weight hanging
10 min weight hanging (this set is new for this week)

My LM3 sets is a combination of bundled strecthes in different directions and DBS.

 

[bemorethanbig]

Small gains will make a huge difference with you. What is your NBPEL? I have a feeling that if you lose some fat pad you will get an extra 1/4 -1/2 inch easy. Imagine me, I'm 5,4" if I had your 7.5 EL I would be a huge monster. I get it, you are big but that doesn't change the fact that you feel small. Maybe you are a grower too? Trust the process, since you have a good workout routine I think you will do great with PE. Whatever goal you have though in time, think of it as working out, you will see some fast results but dedication with 3+ years will get you that great confidence. This is PE for life just like working out. Our goal is to see you be and think like a Lion at all times.

 

[DLD]

There are many incredible articles on this in the mental pe forum that will help greatly

 

[Sakuratutte]

Small gains will make a huge difference with you. What is your NBPEL? I have a feeling that if you lose some fat pad you will get an extra 1/4 -1/2 inch easy. Imagine me, I'm 5,4" if I had your 7.5 EL I would be a huge monster. I get it, you are big but that doesn't change the fact that you feel small. Maybe you are a grower too? Trust the process, since you have a good workout routine I think you will do great with PE. Whatever goal you have though in time, think of it as working out, you will see some fast results but dedication with 3+ years will get you that great confidence. This is PE for life just like working out. Our goal is to see you be and think like a Lion at all times.

Thank you so much for your kind and wise response!
My fatpad is like 3-3,5 cm (1,2 - 1,4 inches) so my NPEL was like 15,5-16 cm (6,1 - 6,3 inches) at start.

As you say im a pretty big dude and my penis would probably look very nice on someone of you size =) Its cons and pros of having a big/small stature i guess. A life saver for me have actually been the sites of how big p-rnstars penises really are. I always thought that i was way smaller that most p-rnstars but im more and more realising that im maybe not so far behind (or as big in some cases). But still when i see a huge looking penis in a p-rn movie i cant stop to think like "wow, i wonder what my wife would think if she saw that..", always when we watch movie togheter and somehow a big penis is flashed i also get nervous and sweaty of thinking what she thinks.. This is so sick really that they always show this huge monsters of penises (probably in most cases not even real) in movies/series..

Regarding the grower or shower its strange because i can be both.. when in home and with a warm room i can actually be pretty big. Not like the extreme ones that probably doesnt even grow when they get erect but still not so far away from my erect state. However whenever i am in a public area (like a looker room or public shower) i always shrink! Somehow my stresslevels go up and my penis shrinks in this situations.. probably because im thinking to much about my penis. I think alot of my psychological problems with my size comes from this. I played sports up till my early twenties and i always thought i was one of the guys with the smallest penis in the teams.. somehow i guess that cant have been the truth but that was what i felt and got very insecure from.

So im really gratefull that i found this community and that the pe seems to be working. I hope that my flaccid size will also increase as i go along.
Thanks again for your encouragement!

 

[Sakuratutte]

There are many incredible articles on this in the mental pe forum that will help greatly

Thank you for the tip.. i think i really would need this actually. Probably even some real life consuelling.. but i cant muster the courage to talk about this things in public. I dont live in such a large city so if it would come out it would be embarassing.

 

[bemorethanbig]

Godspeed to you. I have gone through 3-5 years of Bad Thoughts, PTSD, and depression at age 31-33 and again 40-42. I use to say time was the only healing factor but there is more. Talking to someone will help because it will truly find deeper reasons of why you think the way you think, I also found that living in grace is amazing and that means to live every moment at 100%, whatever you do- do it at 100%, working out and being fit has also become my core of improvement and PE has done wonders for me.

With counseling, therapy one helped me know that "I deserve to be happy" I had to say that 100 times to myself a day. Therapy two helped me understand that I am a very demanding person who holds loyalty and honor and all those around me with high standards, that's not normal, that's me. You don't have to go into PE in therapy if that is a courage issue, just talk and learn more about yourself.

I leave you with 4 things:

"Be intelligent. Stay intelligent. Live intelligently"
"Know that it is OK to not be OK, but it is not OK to not be OK"
"Whatever you do - just do that at 100%"
"Optimism is really rooted in gratitude,” “Optimism is sustainable when you keep coming back to gratitude, and what follows from that is acceptance. Accepting that this thing has happened, and you accept it for what it is. It doesn’t mean that you can’t endeavor to change. It doesn’t mean you have to accept it as a punishment or a penance, but just put it in its proper place. Then see how much the rest of your life you have to thrive in, and then you can move on.” - Fox

 

[DLD]

Godspeed to you. I have gone through 3-5 years of Bad Thoughts, PTSD, and depression at age 31-33 and again 40-42. I use to say time was the only healing factor but there is more. Talking to someone will help because it will truly find deeper reasons of why you think the way you think, I also found that living in grace is amazing and that means to live every moment at 100%, whatever you do- do it at 100%, working out and being fit has also become my core of improvement and PE has done wonders for me.

With counseling, therapy one helped me know that "I deserve to be happy" I had to say that 100 times to myself a day. Therapy two helped me understand that I am a very demanding person who holds loyalty and honor and all those around me with high standards, that's not normal, that's me. You don't have to go into PE in therapy if that is a courage issue, just talk and learn more about yourself.

I leave you with 4 things:

"Be intelligent. Stay intelligent. Live intelligently"
"Know that it is OK to not be OK, but it is not OK to not be OK"
"Whatever you do - just do that at 100%"
"Optimism is really rooted in gratitude,” “Optimism is sustainable when you keep coming back to gratitude, and what follows from that is acceptance. Accepting that this thing has happened, and you accept it for what it is. It doesn’t mean that you can’t endeavor to change. It doesn’t mean you have to accept it as a punishment or a penance, but just put it in its proper place. Then see how much the rest of your life you have to thrive in, and then you can move on.” - Fox

I love this

 

[Sakuratutte]

Update
Even tough i havent been active in the forums i have continued my workouts.
I have trained for a totalt amount of 36 weeks this years with mainly two periods of 16 weeks each with some rests between becaouse of vaccations and other things in life.

As im increasing my workout in some way every week the last weeks of my 16 weeks program is hard and long. Last week i have been training four times a week:
17,5 min LM bundled
17,5 min LM bundled
17,5 min hanging 6 kg x 5 sets
After this all day stretch about 2-3 hours with weight about 2 kg.

A full days training with warm up and rests between sets are like maybe 6-7 hours.. and hinders my from doing other things in life.
Maybe i just have gone over the top with this.. but when you are increasing your program with about 5-10 % each week the time and effort soon racks up in high numbers..

I have gained but havent seen the amount of gains that i would like for such a time consuming training. Now i will take a rest and in january i will start girth training only. My goal is getting to 16 cm mid shaft (currently at about 15-15,25 cm). Maybe i will come back for more length gains but i think i will set up some other program then.. maybe more intense but less time consuming.

Results so far (from start to now)
BPEL: 19 cm (7,5 inches) -> 21 cm (8,27 inches). Measured from side of penis.
BPEL: 19 cm (7,5 inches) -> 20,75 cm (8,17 inches). Measured from top of penis.
EG (base): 16,5 cm (6,5 inches) ->17 cm (6,7 inches)
EG (midshaft): 14,5 cm (5,7 inches) ->15-15,25 cm (5,9-6 inches)

So i gained about 2 cm (0,79 inches) in lenght and about 0,5-0,75 cm (0,2-0,3 inches) in mid shaft girth.

Some may say the result aint good but i think they are ok for someone that didnt really believe this penis training thing would even work.
But what i think is hard for the motivation is that the increases is coming so slow that you pretty much dont notice them even if i only measure once every 2 months or so. Some time i even question myself if i have even increased in size or if im just measuring in some other way, pressing the ruler harder against my body or something..

To get the perfect measurement i have like a few seconds before i loose the perfect erection and if i do i can easily go back to like 19 cm BPEL and start questioning if i really am 21 cm.. but i really think i have grown becaouse before i think 19 cm was my perfect max and now i get to that number even if i am only maybe 85-90 % hard. But the mind is playing trix on me..

Next goal as i said earlier is to increase my girth to 16 cm (6,3 inches) mid shaft. I hope this will make my penis feel more powerful and big in the hand. Having big hands my penis doesnt really feel that big except for in my true base where i almost cant grip around it.

 

[Sakuratutte]

I have also realiesed i have a pretty big fat pad even though i dont have that much fat really (almost visible abs). My fatpad is like 4 cm (1,57 inch) and when i press into it hard it hurt so i loose erection fast. I gues i just have unluck that my fat like to be in this area. My penis base is almost like a tree root that is getting wider and wider were the penis is attached to the body so to say.

My goal to the summer will also therefore be to try to decrease my fat pad. If i can get maybe 1 cm decrease in fatpad that would be great. Than i have increased my visual lenght with about 3 cm!

 

[DLD]

I have also realiesed i have a pretty big fat pad even though i dont have that much fat really (almost visible abs). My fatpad is like 4 cm (1,57 inch) and when i press into it hard it hurt so i loose erection fast. I gues i just have unluck that my fat like to be in this area. My penis base is almost like a tree root that is getting wider and wider were the penis is attached to the body so to say.

My goal to the summer will also therefore be to try to decrease my fat pad. If i can get maybe 1 cm decrease in fatpad that would be great. Than i have increased my visual lenght with about 3 cm!

Losing fat is a very quick way to seeing more penis. When I lost my excessive fat I gained 2 visual growth

 

[Sakuratutte]

I will make another uppdate. So Ive been working on with a new program for about 16 weeks.
The program has been mostly focusing on girth but with some length excersises prior to the girth training.
My goal is to get 16 cm (6,3 inches) girth midshaft.

Most weeks i have been training 4 times a week (i cant train more often becaouse of work/family):
15 min LM3 or weigth hanging.
15 min LM3 or weigth hanging.
And then girth 5x5x3 SSJ combined with the Bathmate/Mityvac (when i got the Mitycav i directly ditched the Bathmate. The mityvac is SO much better).
After the girth training i put on two sillirings (one doesnt seem to be enough for me to keep the erection) and try to keep it there for 30 minutes at a time up to 2 hours.

I have increased the intensity each week by either increasing the pressure or increasing the time of the girth excersises.
The last week i have doing 6 min and 45 seconds for each set and pressure pending between 7-12 mmHG.

After the sessions i have a really great expansion of my girth (my length doesnt seem to change, not noticable anyway).
The girth midshaft reaches 17 cm (6,7 inches) and at the base i can reach as much as 19 cm (7,5 inch)!
Thats and increase of about 1,75 cm (0,7 inch) from my normal measurement.

Even after like 4-5 hours without the penis ring I still have a very nice expansion of like 16,5 cm midshaft and 18,5 at the base.
Obviously it seems i am doing something right with the training to get this temporary expansions. The problem is that if i rest for a couple of days i am back to about 15,25 cm (6 inches) midsaft and about 17,25 cm at the base. Over this 16 weeks i dont seem to have gained pretty much anything in my normal state

The sad part is also that having a 16,5-17 cm fat penis most of the time make me feel that my normal 15,25 cm is thin. Gripping it feels like strange when you now are used to gripping something bigger.

Is it normal to not have any gains after 4 months of training when I am still making this good temporary gains? Do you think I am doing something wrong and need to change something?

Are my temporary gains proof that my penis are adapting and can grow in girth if i just have more patience?

I attach a picture showing my penis after a pumping sessions (with cock rings on). In the picture my girth is about 17 cm midshaft and my penis is about 21-21,5 cm in lenght. I have "erased" the background.

I have also come to the conclusion that i really need to try to get my fatpad away. It simple makes my penis look so much smaller than it really is. My fatpad is 4 cm (1,6 inches) and it steals so much of the length its not even funny..

 

[Kream8]

I will make another uppdate. So Ive been working on with a new program for about 16 weeks.
The program has been mostly focusing on girth but with some length excersises prior to the girth training.
My goal is to get 16 cm (6,3 inches) girth midshaft.

Most weeks i have been training 4 times a week (i cant train more often becaouse of work/family):
15 min LM3 or weigth hanging.
15 min LM3 or weigth hanging.
And then girth 5x5x3 SSJ combined with the Bathmate/Mityvac (when i got the Mitycav i directly ditched the Bathmate. The mityvac is SO much better).
After the girth training i put on two sillirings (one doesnt seem to be enough for me to keep the erection) and try to keep it there for 30 minutes at a time up to 2 hours.

I have increased the intensity each week by either increasing the pressure or increasing the time of the girth excersises.
The last week i have doing 6 min and 45 seconds for each set and pressure pending between 7-12 mmHG.

After the sessions i have a really great expansion of my girth (my length doesnt seem to change, not noticable anyway).
The girth midshaft reaches 17 cm (6,7 inches) and at the base i can reach as much as 19 cm (7,5 inch)!
Thats and increase of about 1,75 cm (0,7 inch) from my normal measurement.

Even after like 4-5 hours without the penis ring I still have a very nice expansion of like 16,5 cm midshaft and 18,5 at the base.
Obviously it seems i am doing something right with the training to get this temporary expansions. The problem is that if i rest for a couple of days i am back to about 15,25 cm (6 inches) midsaft and about 17,25 cm at the base. Over this 16 weeks i dont seem to have gained pretty much anything in my normal state

The sad part is also that having a 16,5-17 cm fat penis most of the time make me feel that my normal 15,25 cm is thin. Gripping it feels like strange when you now are used to gripping something bigger.

Is it normal to not have any gains after 4 months of training when I am still making this good temporary gains? Do you think I am doing something wrong and need to change something?

Are my temporary gains proof that my penis are adapting and can grow in girth if i just have more patience?

I attach a picture showing my penis after a pumping sessions (with cock rings on). In the picture my girth is about 17 cm midshaft and my penis is about 21-21,5 cm in lenght. I have "erased" the background.

I have also come to the conclusion that i really need to try to get my fatpad away. It simple makes my penis look so much smaller than it really is. My fatpad is 4 cm (1,6 inches) and it steals so much of the length its not even funny..

you sir are packing a weapon between your legs don’t think otherwise

 

[oldandlively]

As brother @Kream8 said, you're packing a weapon of mass creamation. My already screamed at this point.

Most weeks i have been training 4 times a week (i cant train more often becaouse of work/family):
15 min LM3 or weigth hanging.
15 min LM3 or weigth hanging.
And then girth 5x5x3 SSJ combined with the Bathmate/Mityvac (when i got the Mitycav i directly ditched the Bathmate. The mityvac is SO much better).
After the girth training i put on two sillirings (one doesnt seem to be enough for me to keep the erection) and try to keep it there for 30 minutes at a time up to 2 hours.

I have increased the intensity each week by either increasing the pressure or increasing the time of the girth excersises.
The last week i have doing 6 min and 45 seconds for each set and pressure pending between 7-12 mmHG.

After the sessions i have a really great expansion of my girth (my length doesnt seem to change, not noticable anyway).
The girth midshaft reaches 17 cm (6,7 inches) and at the base i can reach as much as 19 cm (7,5 inch)!
Thats and increase of about 1,75 cm (0,7 inch) from my normal measurement.

This is size queens' territory. Wowzer.

Even after like 4-5 hours without the penis ring I still have a very nice expansion of like 16,5 cm midshaft and 18,5 at the base.
Obviously it seems i am doing something right with the training to get this temporary expansions. The problem is that if i rest for a couple of days i am back to about 15,25 cm (6 inches) midsaft and about 17,25 cm at the base. Over this 16 weeks i dont seem to have gained pretty much anything in my normal state

The sad part is also that having a 16,5-17 cm fat penis most of the time make me feel that my normal 15,25 cm is thin. Gripping it feels like strange when you now are used to gripping something bigger.

Is it normal to not have any gains after 4 months of training when I am still making this good temporary gains? Do you think I am doing something wrong and need to change something?

What you're experiencing is expansion potential gains. Mean, what you're seeing at 17cm at the base, or anywhere else along the entire shaft, is what your penis is willing to yield to your growth ahead. Don't give up, and keep at it. When your penis shrinks back to 15.25cm, it's not because it's temporary gain. It's the body trying to reset itself back to normalcy. This is why we don't tell the brothers to constantly measure, but to constantly perform the routines day in and day out on pure discipline. Why? The body requires time to reprogram itself to the new normalcy, or new biological state. At this moment in time, your body is trying to heal and preserve itself through biological preservation as it reset itself back to the old size. Force it not to by keep doing the same thing.

A great example is the people who only workout to gain a bit of muscles in the short run. Once they stop working out, their muscles reset back to the old sizes. But, for those who constantly workout for years, especially those who work in the fields with heavy lifting, even when they grow older, their body stature hardly change, creating the outline of their hard gains from previous biological size reprogramming. Same thing for your penis. Your body must reach a point where it deems the new size is the new normal.

Are my temporary gains proof that my penis are adapting and can grow in girth if i just have more patience?

I attach a picture showing my penis after a pumping sessions (with cock rings on). In the picture my girth is about 17 cm midshaft and my penis is about 21-21,5 cm in lenght. I have "erased" the background.

I have also come to the conclusion that i really need to try to get my fatpad away. It simple makes my penis look so much smaller than it really is. My fatpad is 4 cm (1,6 inches) and it steals so much of the length its not even funny..

Keep at it. Your gains will be permanent after a specific amount of cementing time. It can be anywhere between 3 months to 9 months, based on your biological makeup. Most brothers have a growth period, then a cementing period. Cementing period tends to be 3 to 4 months after you reduce the amount of routine time. My suggestion is keep at it until your body recognizes the new size first before going into cementing period.

 

[DLD]

Maybe I have an addiction to Monster drinks but my gosh you have a Monster cock. How did you start and for how long? What was your evolution in exercises?

 

[Sakuratutte]

you sir are packing a weapon between your legs don’t think otherwise

Thank you for your encouragement To be honest i still have a hard time accepting that my penis is big. It might sound strange but its the truth. Even when i take this pictures im very self critical thinking its not looking big enough etc. But i have realised that i need to compare my dick to things to realise how big it is. Looking at it with nothing besides it always make me think its small.. but sometimes when i compare it to something pretty big and i realise wow wait a minute! My dick is actually bigger than this thing, then i get some temporary boost of my self confidence.

 

[Sakuratutte]

As brother @Kream8 said, you're packing a weapon of mass creamation. My already screamed at this point.

This is size queens' territory. Wowzer.

Haha thanks man I hope i will be able to reach this numbers (or close to) even in my "normal state". That would be cool and i hope it would make me feel big for real even in my insecure heart

What you're experiencing is expansion potential gains. Mean, what you're seeing at 17cm at the base, or anywhere else along the entire shaft, is what your penis is willing to yield to your growth ahead. Don't give up, and keep at it. When your penis shrinks back to 15.25cm, it's not because it's temporary gain. It's the body trying to reset itself back to normalcy. This is why we don't tell the brothers to constantly measure, but to constantly perform the routines day in and day out on pure discipline. Why? The body requires time to reprogram itself to the new normalcy, or new biological state. At this moment in time, your body is trying to heal and preserve itself through biological preservation as it reset itself back to the old size. Force it not to by keep doing the same thing.

A great example is the people who only workout to gain a bit of muscles in the short run. Once they stop working out, their muscles reset back to the old sizes. But, for those who constantly workout for years, especially those who work in the fields with heavy lifting, even when they grow older, their body stature hardly change, creating the outline of their hard gains from previous biological size reprogramming. Same thing for your penis. Your body must reach a point where it deems the new size is the new normal.

Keep at it. Your gains will be permanent after a specific amount of cementing time. It can be anywhere between 3 months to 9 months, based on your biological makeup. Most brothers have a growth period, then a cementing period. Cementing period tends to be 3 to 4 months after you reduce the amount of routine time. My suggestion is keep at it until your body recognizes the new size first before going into cementing period.

This makes sense, it feels good to hear it from someone experienced that my efforts are not in vain. When i was younger i lifted weights for about 12 years and even though i havent touched the weights for about 10 years + i still have an unnormal strenght and size of my body so i understand that this might be true for the penis as well. I will keep at it and hopefully i will start to see the gains in my normal state

Thank you, im much more motivated to keep training now

 

[Sakuratutte]

Maybe I have an addiction to Monster drinks but my gosh you have a Monster cock. How did you start and for how long? What was your evolution in exercises?

Haha thank you so much DLD

I started PE a couple of weeks before i started this journal. I had never done any sort of PE before, or at least not consciously. I was an masturbation addict when i was like 19-22 and i actually think i migh have gained 1 cm in length from that but im not sure.. it could also have been that my penis was still growing naturally. I could edge my self for several hours at a time.

I have always been very self concius about my penis and in the end of 2023 something caught up with me that made me think of this things alot more again. This is when i found this site and thought i might give it ago, i didnt actually think it would work but im very thankful it did and fore the vast amount of information that can be found here!

So i started PE january 2024 and my starting measurements were:
BPEL: 19 cm (7,5 inches)
EG (base): 16,5 cm (6,5 inches)
EG (midshaft): 14,5 cm (5,7 inches)

Today my measurements are about:
BPEL: 21-21,5 cm (8,26-8,46 inches)
EG (base): 17,25 cm (6,8 inches)
EG (midshaft): 15,25 cm (6 inches)

I started with manual stretches and then soon started hanging and then bought the LM3 after maybe 6-8 weeks of training.
My training program the first year (2024) was only lenght training were i tried to increase the stress each week.
My life with work and family (who doesnt now about my training) lets me train only 4 times a week (sometimes 3 and if im lucky sometimes 5). This also means that when family is on vaccation or sick i cant train for example which means i have to take a break.
2024 i trained for a total of 36 weeks with an average of 4 times a week.

My sessions after i got the LM3 was pretty much as this with increasing time, weight or sets each week:
Two sets of LM3 (mostly downward bundled stretches).
Up to 6 sets of weigth hanging (started at two sets and then increased over time). Max weight 6,75 kilos (15 lbs). I think i easily could do heavier weights but i have chosen not to.
ADS for about 2-4 hours

This year i have been doing two sets of either LM3 or weight hanging and then the 5x5x3 girth program after that. Four times a week.
Also increasing intensity or time each week. There has been some week when i havent been able to train at all but i have done 16 weeks total so far.

Still feeling uncertain
Even though i have growed i still feel unceratain about my size. I think a big part of this is that i pretty much havent had sex in maybe 6 years.. it might sound very strange because i have a wife. But we have fallen out of the sex thing in some way or another and it seems very hard to get in going again. I think we havent had sex at all for soon two years and before that maybe 3-4 times a years. I am usually a very sexual person and much of my confidence in my earlier days come from charming and having sex with girls. Now i feel lost.

Before i was eager to have sex with my wife but now im not even actually sure what i want anymore.. im sad to say that she doesnt really turn me on much anymore. She has gained alot of weight (im talking like 30 kg/66 lbs) and she wasnt super thin or anything when we met. But i dont think this is the main reason, i think the main reason is that she hasnt been intrested in having sex with me for so long that my mind and body simply doesnt see her as a potential sex partner any more. But the hard thing is that we have wonderful childs and she have been my best friend for soon 20 years i just cant give this up.. even though im feeling more and more depressed over the whole sex situation each year.

My wife never have told my anything negative about my penis size but still the not having sex thing makes me so uncertain. Naturally im not able to see other guys junk to see that my dick is bigger and im also not able to have sex with girls who can tell me it is.. im stuck in this place where all i can do is measure it and belive the numbers. This is nothing that has helped me alot in the past either, i need conformation from girls i think.
It doesnt help that im a true grower also, especially after training when my penis can shrink to like 11 cm (which 4 hides behind my fatpad) and on my big body (190 cm and 95 kg) that looks so small.. and i feel so small when i see others in the changing room that might be showers with much bigger penises..

So simply.. in real life i havent heard from anybody that my penis is a good size over the last 20 years... excpet for my wife on occasions. Not sure what to to about all this.

 

[Sakuratutte]

I also must add that i dont think my wife realises anywhere near how big i am (if you check the statistics). I think she somehow belives that i am "a little bit bigger than average". We used a condom for the first time for like 3 years ago wich she had bought (the most bought condomsize in sweden). When we tried to get in on was the first time she actually said "wow, how are we suppoesed to get this small thing on your dick".

I think this might be partly be because i as i said has a pretty average soft penis and she sees huge flaccid penis in every other tv-show now adays (fake penises.. but i think she think they are real). Shows doesnt seem to show normal penises this days.. Naturally she thinks this penises are much bigger than mine in errect state. I also again thinks my big posture doesnt help me becaouse on my body my penis might just look " alittle bit over average") compared to let say pornstars who are 170 cm 130 lbs.

Best thing would be if i could show her a normal penis next to mine.. i dont know. She would propably not belive it anyways.

I also had a gf back in the days that i really had a huge crush on. I think she also scarred my a bit. We looked on adult entertainment togheter sometimes and she always commented on big dicks (and not in the sense that i had one too, more like "look at that huge thing"). This made me uncertain and i tried to show her statistics that i was among the biggest in size. When i said i was like the top 95 % or so she just laughed and said like yeah right keep dreaming. Ive seen the ones in adult entertainment you know, you are much smaller than that. This was back in the days when the real numbers on pornstars were anywhere to be found either.. i actually thought every adult entertainment star was like 25-30 cm..

 

[oldandlively]

Still feeling uncertain
Even though i have growed i still feel unceratain about my size. I think a big part of this is that i pretty much havent had sex in maybe 6 years.. it might sound very strange because i have a wife. But we have fallen out of the sex thing in some way or another and it seems very hard to get in going again. I think we havent had sex at all for soon two years and before that maybe 3-4 times a years. I am usually a very sexual person and much of my confidence in my earlier days come from charming and having sex with girls. Now i feel lost.

There are phases in a woman's life. The is a phase where she feels smitten and needs to chase a man to have a reliable, strong, and secure partner to protect her. She also goes through a phase where she needs a partner who can fulfill her sexual appetite, on top of meeting her financial needs. She'll do everything in her power to obtain that partner of hers. Once she has the partner she desired, she'll go through a laxidazical phase of just enjoying life, looking for further excitement in the areas. This goes for a man as well. In the search for additional needs of stimulation or conquest, they both feel lost. This is where you are now.

It's not about having the perfect size, perfect beauty, the mastered financial stability; it's about the search for a balanced relationship. My wife divorced her ex because he was tired of searching and balancing their relationship in the past. I witnessed many relationships gone stale because they did not understand each other, want to, or have the drive to discuss the balance. Those who have been married to the same partners for over two decades can and will tell you the same thing: you have to work harder in the latter part of your relationship after the three years of the honeymoon period. Divorces occur right after the honeymoon period starts to phase off.

Before i was eager to have sex with my wife but now im not even actually sure what i want anymore.. im sad to say that she doesnt really turn me on much anymore. She has gained alot of weight (im talking like 30 kg/66 lbs) and she wasnt super thin or anything when we met. But i dont think this is the main reason, i think the main reason is that she hasnt been intrested in having sex with me for so long that my mind and body simply doesnt see her as a potential sex partner any more. But the hard thing is that we have wonderful childs and she have been my best friend for soon 20 years i just cant give this up.. even though im feeling more and more depressed over the whole sex situation each year.

We all gain weight. Our handsomeness or beauty is fleeting. When we don't have something to chase after, we let ourselves go. Eating more to enjoy our new lives, stress eating, or just don't care because we already have what we want. My wife and I, along with our kids, poke fun at our fat asses all the time. Why? Because we become too comfortable. 30kg is a bit excessive, and quite dangerous. my wife is around 15kg, and I already got worry for her. I'm about 10kg from my normal weight, and I worry for myself. I can feel the sluggishness because of that. However, my wife can see I'm not stopping in balancing the household, the maintenance of the family, and the dealing with everything else to keep our relationship balanced. The key phrase is, "relational balance". You can't expect the other party to provide more than what you can offer at the table. This is where the discussion comes into play.

My wife never have told my anything negative about my penis size but still the not having sex thing makes me so uncertain. Naturally im not able to see other guys junk to see that my dick is bigger and im also not able to have sex with girls who can tell me it is.. im stuck in this place where all i can do is measure it and belive the numbers. This is nothing that has helped me alot in the past either, i need conformation from girls i think.
It doesnt help that im a true grower also, especially after training when my penis can shrink to like 11 cm (which 4 hides behind my fatpad) and on my big body (190 cm and 95 kg) that looks so small.. and i feel so small when i see others in the changing room that might be showers with much bigger penises..

So simply.. in real life i havent heard from anybody that my penis is a good size over the last 20 years... excpet for my wife on occasions. Not sure what to to about all this.

So, I can sense a misinterpretation of communication that resulted in personal insecurity. It's not about your size, but rather, the willingness to discover her triggers to reignite her sexual needs. It's not about the penis size that she cares for. It's about the stimulation she's yearning for. This is where you need to observe closely and perform full evaluation on what has happened. Do your PE to maintain your personal encouragement as a man, but go beyond being man and search deeper as a soulmate.