Welcome to the brotherhood, Daisy.
Hello everyone,
I’ve been a longtime follower of the discussions here and truly appreciate the wealth of knowledge shared in this community. I’m reaching out today to seek advice on optimizing my routine and breaking through a frustrating plateau.
Current Routine:
- Exercises: Primarily focused on jelqing, stretching, and manual clamping (following the beginner’s guide).
- Duration: ~45 minutes/day, 5 days/week.
- Progress: Initial gains were promising (+0.5" in length over 6 months), but progress has stalled for the past 3 months.
Got it. That type of stretching do you perform? Hands stretches only? Specific intensified methods?
Questions:
- Plateau Solutions: For those who’ve overcome plateaus, what adjustments worked best? Did you incorporate devices (e.g., pumps, extenders) or change intensity/frequency?
- Safety First: I’m considering adding a pump to my routine—any recommendations for models with reliable pressure control to avoid injury?
- Nutrition/Recovery: Are there specific supplements (e.g., L-citrulline, collagen) or recovery techniques (heat therapy, etc.) that supported your gains?
I’d love to hear both anecdotal experiences and evidence-based insights. Thanks in advance for your time and expertise—this forum has been an invaluable resource!
P.S. If there’s a more appropriate subforum for this topic, kindly point me in the right direction.
Both both anecdotal experiences and evidence-based insights are ladened within the posts starting since 2004. There are plenty of brothers who are documenting their approaches right now with hard plateau walls recorded under the Routine and Progress subforum. They documented their routines, the frustration through observation, and the unique outcomes from various exploratory approaches including a long period of break (decon). So, let's tackle your questions.
For the first one, the plateau solutions is not to go even harder without safety progression. It's not about pushing harder to the point of your penis getting injured. The validated evidence is adjusting into higher intensity progressively to allow the body to adopt the new pressure loads, and refocus on a dynamic changes of loads from a quick warm up light load, to moderate load, to high load, and a sustainable long moderate load. The best devices are fulcrum or traction type of assisting devices, such as the
Length Master, combo up with extender or all day stretcher, and of course, the pumps with proper gauges and quick release safety mechanism. When it comes to light or low level traction load, it's around 0.75kg to 1.2kg. This is the standard range of penile capacity to handle light or low level traction loading. It has been recorded in medical journals since 1991. If you want those documents, we have plenty of those as well. Moderate traction load range from 1.3kg all the way up to 3kg. This is to ensure safety precaution for your tunica ligaments and tissues from accidentally snapping and breaking under tension. The progressive amount of traction load should only be 0.23kg every 2 to 3 weeks. No more than that. If you go up too fast, your body adapts to the higher traction loads too quickly and you'll hit another plateau wall. The higher loading can go from 3.1kg all the way as high as 20kg. Why that high? Some of those who have been
hanging with heavy
weights built too dense of a tunica tissue fibers, restricting them from breaking out of the tough wall we deemed as extreme plateau. This is why we encourage the brother not to go too high and too fast. Progressive loading is the key. This is where the devices like the
Length Master to provide dynamic traction loading from 0.5kg all the way to 20kg without any issues, and then the extenders or all day systems to maintain the lower traction load at around 1.15kg to 1.2kg for tissue healing and proper elongation based on the body dynamics. Again, too high of a traction load and too fast WILL stop your growth very fast.
For the second question, safety is always first. Proper pump with gauge is essential. Not just a gauge, but a high quality gauge. If you have an electric pump or a pump with an inaccurate gauge, I can tell you, you will suffer. Those mini pressure gauge or digital gauge works well at first with very low errors, but the moment something is stuck in the micro valve, you're as good as having a broken penis. The MoS brotherhood gone through various revisits with their designs and assembled together the
MityVac pump system for the brotherhood to use. You can purchase something similar, but your chance of getting a bad setup is extremely high. In addition, MoS Shop have a lifetime warranty behind its produce. Man, I sounds like saleman, but I'm just an advisor that have all used quite a bit of products throughout my 2+ decades of PE journey. Those who already spent plenty of money will tell you that they would go back and bought the
Length Master and
MityVac to start out with. My closet and bed side stand is full of PE equipment, and I only use three devices:
Length Master,
SiliStretcher modified with an old JES Extender base, and the
MityVac. Yes, I have a
Bathmate too.
As for the question three, yes,
red light therapy is a given. It's a great cellular growth booster. Look at the
MosRed for more details. Get a unit equal to or better than the
MoSRed. Supplements like L-citrulline (or the L-citrulline malate if you can handle the sourness but faster absorption), Vit D3 to activate cellular activities, vitamins and minerals to bulk your bioavailable resource for cellular repairs, collagen loading to give your body accessible collagen peptides for cell wall repair and duplication, and much, much, much more. Read the brothers' Routine and Progress posts, such as
@Haursen for the detail supplements, and you'll understand that we take PE very seriously. Heat is essential for the starting point to soften the tissues to bring the tissues into malleable state, and heat during PE routine to optimize plasticity for stretching, and heat after to expedite blood flow.
I'll stop right here. The post is getting long. We can go into smaller details and pull more past posts for you to read in greater details. We have many, many, and many more posts ready for you to sink your teeth into.
