Returning to PE after several years

DR3000

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Good day gents.

I did PE back in the day successfully, gaining a little over an inch and a lot of thickness. The results were fine for me, and it seemed to be permanent when i did light stretching and exercises for maintenance.

Fast forward a few years—while having sex with my wife, i slipped out while she was on top, and she slammed down on my penis, painfully bending it. I felt something pop and had tremendous pain. It was bad enough to go to the doctor.

After going through several unfruitful doctor and urologist visits, a lump formed inside. I was diagnosed with Peyronie’s disease. I have a slight upwards curve, a bulge in my shaft, and lost significant length as a result. This has caused me a bit of grief, but nothing i couldn’t get through.

I knew about this from reading in these forums in the past—people can and do improve with consistency and effort.. I am at a point where i care enough to do something about it again, so here i am to see what’s changed in the last 15 years.
 
Welcome, brother, and a welcome back to PE as well. Too many things have changed, and plenty of knowledge to behold.

Good day gents.

I did PE back in the day successfully, gaining a little over an inch and a lot of thickness. The results were fine for me, and it seemed to be permanent when i did light stretching and exercises for maintenance.

Fast forward a few years—while having sex with my wife, i slipped out while she was on top, and she slammed down on my penis, painfully bending it. I felt something pop and had tremendous pain. It was bad enough to go to the doctor.

After going through several unfruitful doctor and urologist visits, a lump formed inside. I was diagnosed with Peyronie’s disease. I have a slight upwards curve, a bulge in my shaft, and lost significant length as a result. This has caused me a bit of grief, but nothing i couldn’t get through.

I knew about this from reading in these forums in the past—people can and do improve with consistency and effort.. I am at a point where i care enough to do something about it again, so here i am to see what’s changed in the last 15 years.

Gawd!! Yep. Had that one episode myself, when my girlfriend back then, wife now, went a little too crazy while she was too slippery during her cowgirl frenzy. Penile injuries are quite real, and the amount of recovery is much longer than most hard tissue recoveries, including bones.

Now, let's evaluate. Where is the penile body is the damage?

When you have a curve upward, do you also have a curve to the side?

How bad is the curvature? Degrees if you have it, or at least the rise of the shaft compared to it's normal straightness.

The bulge: how big is the bulge around the point of injury compare to the rest of the penile shaft diameter? Localized bulge size (think of a raisin vs a marble)?
 
- Where is the penile body is the damage?

Probably right in the middle of the shaft. Folded it in half, basically.

- How bad is the curvature?

From the center, it curves upwards probably 15-20 degrees. I haven’t held a protractor to it or anything haha. Definitely not as serious as some injuries i have seen online. It is very noticeable though. It used to be straight, now it isn’t.

- When you have a curve upward, do you also have a curve to the side?

It is _very_ slightly to the left too, kind of twisted moreso than bent if that makes sense.


- how big is the bulge around the point of injury compare to the rest of the penile shaft diameter?

I am not sure how to measure this. Id guess its 30-40% thicker at the curve than the uninjured portion.

- Localized bulge size (think of a raisin vs a marble)?

There used to be a hard, marble sized lump inside at the site of injury. It disappeared after about two years, but the curvature and shrinkage persists.





This has been a very frustrating experience. It occurred years ago and many urologists, including the ones i had access to, had limited to no advice on treatment. After spending literally thousands of dollars on consultations and imaging, i gave up. I was spending $200 for consults here, $600 for an MRI there, $90 for an x ray (not sure why this was necessary at all), and would have to call around and explain myself. I literally got laughed at and hung up on when i mentioned that i needed an MRI on my penis trying to schedule imaging appointments. The doctors and urologists didnt help with referrals. I ended up having to go out of network a few times hoping that i could get some help or answers. It was the same crap, just more expensive.

I had a difficult time having sex for a few months because it hurt so bad and I couldn’t maintain an erection—many times i couldnt even getvit up to begin with. It eventually healed enough to have sex again, but now i have this weird (to me) hooked penis (like a boomerang) and i went from ~7.5” to ~5.5” in length after it healed. Seriously lost a solid 2” of length!

The lump inside from the injury eventually dissolved or went away somehow without intervention. As stated above, it gradually got smaller and now i cant feel it at all.

I used a traction device for a while and it helped a little bit with curvature, and i think this may have helped deal with the lump to some degree, but i am not a doctor or scientist, so i cant explain what happened there. I would have.l continued to use the device, but it is impossible to wear consistently—i had to work in an office and i have two little kids that would climb all over me. The only time i could wear it for extended periods was sleeping, which wasn’t recommended.

My wife claims not to mind, but it hasnt been the same since and deep down it bugs me. I am now pain and lump free, but dealing with lost length and curvature.
 
Got it. Your answers provide a significant amount of details to provide a remedial approach, or sets of approaches.

- Where is the penile body is the damage?

Probably right in the middle of the shaft. Folded it in half, basically.

Since the original penile fracture occurs at midpoint, that is much easier to repair than the latter portion. Near the glans of the base of the penis.

- How bad is the curvature?

From the center, it curves upwards probably 15-20 degrees. I haven’t held a protractor to it or anything haha. Definitely not as serious as some injuries i have seen online. It is very noticeable though. It used to be straight, now it isn’t.

Good that you take the correction measures early rather than later and cuases the curvature to proceed further. Some have gone as far as 70 degrees.

- When you have a curve upward, do you also have a curve to the side?

It is _very_ slightly to the left too, kind of twisted moreso than bent if that makes sense.

Got it. This is focused facture on the left, where the scarring tissues forced the growth to be pushed on the right and a pull on the left. So the fracture happened at the top, and the tunica band on the left suffered more during the compression when she sat on you. Based on the details, she probably "swayed" her pelvis during the movement when the compression fracture occured.

- how big is the bulge around the point of injury compare to the rest of the penile shaft diameter?

I am not sure how to measure this. Id guess its 30-40% thicker at the curve than the uninjured portion.

Got it. The tunica bands are growing in a blunt formation. That can be dealt with.

- Localized bulge size (think of a raisin vs a marble)?

There used to be a hard, marble sized lump inside at the site of injury. It disappeared after about two years, but the curvature and shrinkage persists.

Scaring tissues are minimal around the damaged bands. This is a good sign.

This has been a very frustrating experience. It occurred years ago and many urologists, including the ones i had access to, had limited to no advice on treatment. After spending literally thousands of dollars on consultations and imaging, i gave up. I was spending $200 for consults here, $600 for an MRI there, $90 for an x ray (not sure why this was necessary at all), and would have to call around and explain myself. I literally got laughed at and hung up on when i mentioned that i needed an MRI on my penis trying to schedule imaging appointments. The doctors and urologists didnt help with referrals. I ended up having to go out of network a few times hoping that i could get some help or answers. It was the same crap, just more expensive.

The X-ray will not pick up the full extent of the damages. Commonly, MRI provides the most details for the damaged bands and tissue impacts, including nerves and blood vessels abnormal growths. The fastest is ultrasound, providing live results for immediately captures.

I had a difficult time having sex for a few months because it hurt so bad and I couldn’t maintain an erection—many times i couldnt even getvit up to begin with. It eventually healed enough to have sex again, but now i have this weird (to me) hooked penis (like a boomerang) and i went from ~7.5” to ~5.5” in length after it healed. Seriously lost a solid 2” of length!

If you're taking a straight penetrative angle vs a curved angle, yes, it does seem there's a loss of length. At 20 degrees, the loss is approximately 1.2 inches of straight penetration. Appearance-wise, it does appear to be more aggressive overall. Its mainly perspectives but not realistic. However, that upward curvature does also play a role in stimulating the O-spot, and depending on the cervix location, that's the A-spot stimulation.

The lump inside from the injury eventually dissolved or went away somehow without intervention. As stated above, it gradually got smaller and now i cant feel it at all.

That lump doesn't dissolve, but it harden and turned into scarring tissues. Something akin to a twisted ankle or wrist. The swelling does go away, but the damages are converted to laceration and scarring. This is why the abnormal growths started during the healing process.

I used a traction device for a while and it helped a little bit with curvature, and i think this may have helped deal with the lump to some degree, but i am not a doctor or scientist, so i cant explain what happened there. I would have.l continued to use the device, but it is impossible to wear consistently—i had to work in an office and i have two little kids that would climb all over me. The only time i could wear it for extended periods was sleeping, which wasn’t recommended.

The traction devices are designed to support and provide proper healing, the same as a cast for broken bones and ligaments. It's there to isolate and immobilize the damages, correct them, and allow the healing to head in the right direction. But, with kids and and also an active wife, I can tell you, it will never happen. Been there, done that.

My wife claims not to mind, but it hasnt been the same since and deep down it bugs me. I am now pain and lump free, but dealing with lost length and curvature.

In all of my years observing, studying, and deciphering females' psychology (emotional and mental), all the professionals conclude the same results (by both males and females in the fields) that what the females say, at least 70% of their statements are the opposite of what they proclaim. It has been documented as hard fact. So, it's right for her to claim that she doesn't mind, but that the same time, it does bugs her not to have that extra penetration factor when she wants it. It translates to being an issue on your end because you can't provide the same pleasures she seeks for at times.

So, preambles aside, let's dive into the meaty portion of the discussions:

Traction device:
  • Was it provided as a medical device from the clinic or did you purchase it on your own? If you purchased it on your own, mind providing us the info on the device? We can provide you clarity on how to adjustment and usage for the device to optimize your needs.

PE Methods:

We have gone through two decades and more on experimentation and tested by the brotherhood here. DLD is the author to most of the approaches, while many other brothers provide the info for other approaches on various issues.

Peyronie's issues, in your case, is a fractured and scarring abnormal growth. With that, we can suggest a few things right off the plate:
  1. Simple stretching through the SRT program (notice the word is now a link), follows by traction. Traction is required regardless to straighten out the tissues after the stretching. The stretching softens and breaks down the scarring site, enabling the band to heal correctly over time. PE constantly breaks down the penile tissues every time you stretch, and each time, the micro damages heal back according to your desire.
  2. Bending correction to correct the angles can deploy using your hands through manual stretching as part of the SRT, follows by traction methods. Traction method can be active with extenders or passive with stretchers and wraps. We'll go into details in a bit.
  3. Active methods for Peyronie's scarring can range from hanging using light weights, follows by moderate or high, and then back to light. Your wife may not mind, but having kids busting through your room while you're doing your PE routines, well, it can be a bit surprising to say the least. My kids did the same since they were 8 months old to as old as 19 years old (now). They don't care any more at this point seeing an old guy yanking his penis doing PE, but there's still the embarrassing moments for them. Me, I just glance at them and resume. The hanging allows you to warm up, break down the tissues, and correct the linear growth paths. This must follows up with traction, extension, or wrapping.
  4. Straight up traction/extension device. That can range from a device with spring-loaded system with a base, a straping system where you can keep your penis elongated under tension next to your leg or around your waist, or a coil system where it's more stealthy and bulky but less effective due to the traction requirement of 1.15kg throughout the day.
  5. Wrapping method using coban tape, flexible bandage, and ACE tape (harden medical tape) to keep your penis stabilized, elongated, and stretched under at least 900g of traction tension. This is normally used by the brothers after their PE to keep their penis elongated and the blood flowing throughout the day.
  6. Combination of PE routine for length and girth growth using SRT program and 5x5x3 routine, which is pumping. Pumping expands the internal tissues laterally, while the lengthening process provides longitudinal tissue correction. It's a great way to tackle the penile deformity issues as you gain penile size.
Just a warning, no matter what method you use, your penis will grow. If your wife doesn't want any longer or bigger penis, we'll find a way for you. Otherwise, your penis will G-R-O-W during the PE routines.. How long it takes for the penis to correct is based on how much efforts you put into the routines daily. Your wife will have strange looks at your new found hobby, but consider it future proofing your men's health regiment. As the male ages, so does the penis. If she asks, simply say that the penis is the last item on the health concern list that the body will pay attention to, period (.)

Let's stop here, allow yourself to digest the information first, and ask questions. I'm dumping this into the Routines and Progress section so you have everything answered in one thread rather than scattering them all over the place.
 
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Thanks for taking the time to write this up. It is a lot and it will take me a bit to read through and research the links.

It looks like i was generally on the right track before—stretching followed by traction. I just wasnt in a good place in life to be able to commit a ton of time to it. I am now though, hence the research.

To answer your question:

Was it provided as a medical device from the clinic or did you purchase it on your own? If you purchased it on your own, mind providing us the info on the device

I bought it on my own. I don’t remember the exact brand or model but ive seen several of the same type under different branding—they have threaded, spring-loaded metal pieces on each side to adjust for length, with the springs providing the tension. It ultimately broke, so i need something new.

The clinics i went to were essentially no help—costing me thousands of dollars and over two weeks of time from work going to various appointments, ultimately ending up with a resolution of “that sucks man”. Things are probably different now, as it looks like this issue is being taken more seriously now, but a few years ago it didn’t seem to be.
 
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