@DLD - Nice dude! Yeah I'm not kicking myself in the ass for having the PF when this came out, as I've had the PF for years, but definitely wouldn't mind an upgrade. (Though my wallet might be irked a little

I like the design though and wonder just how hidden it could be under pants... Though like the PF, which IS definitely noticeable, if the SilliStretcher is I could still just use it at night.
@arkailija - Ha, yeah I'm usually the opposite, as I trust the 'professionals' over myself. But still good idea though; my only concern being how would the ring be sealed like the foam ring is? (Say we go with the paracord)